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By HERMANN RAUSCHNING
Former Nazi President ~~Danzig Senate

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BY HERMANN RAUSCHNING

Dr. Rauschning was for years in the inner circle of H i'tler,s collabo-
rators, entrusted with the important post ofPresident ofthe Senate of
Danzig. His opportunities for learning the Fuhrer's startling plans
and dreams for the future beyond this war were intimate and exten-
sive. With his hook The Revolution of Nihilism Dr. Rauschning
has established himself as the foremost interpreter of Hitler's
mind. The author is now in voluntary exile.

Hitler's intentions out of Yet what seemed impossible then


I KNOW
his own mouth. Years ago he today hovers on the edge of fulfil ..
admitted with cynical frankness all ment. I can, therefore, picture the
those things which are now shaping consequences of a complete and
into reality. He sketched his world- overwhelming Hitler victory. This
revolutionary alliance with Soviet victory would mean the subversion
Russia, the projected destruction of all established human relations.
of France, the breaking up of the Not only would all political fron-
British Empire, his designs upon tiers be mapped anew, but the
the American hemisphere, his march foundations of human society would
into colonial areas. We who heard be turned upside down. The en·
his intimate conversations in those suing National Socialist world rev-
years could not help taking them olution would shatter everything,
for the ravin~ of a megalomaniac. down to the deepest and most inti-
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mate aspects of human life. Noth... his mtsston to lead his people to
ing would be spared that has given that destiny. It is a matter of in-
meaning to human existence, difference to him whether in the
When I alluded, two years ago, process he squanders the life-blood
to the danger of an aHiance between of the German people. He sees only
National Socialist Germany and the choice between an insignificant
Bolshevik Russia, people shook Germany and Gern1any the au-
their heads unbelievingly and pointed thoritarian World-Nation of the
to the political aims outlined in coming era. My indications of the
Mein Ka1npj Was nol the Ea t the consequences of a Hitler triumph,
direction Hitler s atnbition. had if they sound extravagant, should
chosen? But tho c of us close to t erefore be considered in the
him knew that Hitler \vas inte r~ light of Hitler's paranoiac zeal.
/ ested neither in the Ukraine nor in The present ·war, in the Hitler
Danzig, nor even in Greater G er- view, is not a final event. It is one
many as such. He was, and remains, of a series of wars and uprisings in
interested solely in world revolu- which no corner of the world \vill
tion: the total re-ordering of life on be spared by the internal and ex ..
this globe in accordance with his ternal blows of this revolutionary
own visions. Whether the revolu- dynamism. Not even America is
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tion started in the East or in the safe from Hitler S threat. In 1933 I
\Vest, and how it would be pro- dined at Hitler's table an heard
moted, depended only on the polit- his views on the United States. He
ical situation and opportunities. began with the idea that, owing to
What Hitler craves is domjna- its great social antagonisms, th
tion; exclusive vvorld domination. United States was on the verge of
He may be coldly calculating and bloody revolution. He intimated
even superior to other statesmen in that it would be easy for him actu-l
the management of separate phases ally to stir up this revolution or to
of his struggle. But he is altogether stimulate its outbreak. Then th
fantastic and obsessed,. the creature United States would never again\
of a fixed idea, as regards the be in a position to help the \
greater goal of his life's work. He ¥/estern democracies of Europe.
believes the German people have Hitler \vent still furthe·r : Na-
been destined' for \vorld domina.. tional Socialism and its Fuhrer had
tion. And he believes \vith a pro- the mission of making a real nation
found religious fervor that it ts out of America's conglomeration of
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races. He, Hitler, would take over Hitler cr~eat~ed without a war. The
and continue "Washington's task" h.elp of the Western European
and transform a corrupt moneyed democracies had made it easier for
democracy into a true people's him to call in to existence the big
democracy. At the same time the power bloc of 8o,ooo,ooo. Their
"German character'' of the United hope that they might thus induce
States would be re-established. All Hitler to take the road of peace
the German blood that has streamed proved a delusion. The cr~a tion of
l into America would wake up to its that bloc was not the end of a na-
~,;,.origin. North America would be- tional-revolutionary movement; it
come a German state, closely con- was the beginning of a world-
nected with the German Empire in revolutionary campaign. Hider now
Europe. Fantastic? Not in the had the base for the second phase.
Fuhrer's conversation. He never swerved from his main
Mexico, too, plays a part in Hit- idea, that there was only one way
ler's amazing scheme. Sir Henri for Germany to remain alive-
Deterding, of the Royal Dutch by dominating Europe, and ulti-
Shell, had impressed upon . him mately the world.
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try with the most incompetent and II
corrupt population of the world.
German blood and German effi- Two roads point to that Nazi Em-
ciency would therefore develop pire. One goes by way of the as-
hat country on a gi,gantic scale. similation of Central and South-
That is why, years ago, Hitler's eastern Europe and to the goal of
agents and Storm Troopers were breaking up Russia. This is the old
sent to Mexico for a psychological plan conceived by General Luden ..
war. The same was done to South . dorif: to create a chain of small
America. Those who conceive of vassal states under Germany's con-
Hider as merely interested in trol. The Baltic countries, Poland,
Southeastern Europe make a grave the Danube countries, and the
mistake. The creation of a Greater Balkans; also the Ukraine, the
Germany and of a European.. Volga region, and Georgia in the
Asiatic Continental empire are Caucasus, which were to be sepa·
only preliminary stages leading to rated from Russia-- all these were
world authority. His Greater Ger.. to constitute a federation · of states ·
many, the nucleus of his power, 1n which Germany alone would'
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cotnmand the arm_ , guide the for- In Hitler's opinion this gigantic
eign policy; and determine the plan could not be carried out at
economic life. This, one might say, one blow. By a series of separate
is the classical Eastern policy of actions Germany could approach
National Socialism, as conceived this aim so closely that eventually
by Alfred Rosenberg, Joseph Goeb- one final victorious war would se-
bels, and Hitler himself. cure its complete realization. These
In the West this policy implies fevered ideas of a great European
the crushing of France, with the Empire occupied Hitler's mind as
annexation of its northern section, early as I 933-1934, when the fear
of Alsace- Lorraine, and of old of sanctions by the w ·estern J>O":-
Burgundy - that is, the territory ers .still hovered as a possibility
west of Belfort. But the reduction over Germany. Even at that early
of France to a small power is not period it was his determination
the only azi war aim. in the West. either to attack France first or to
In addition to the Eastern Federa- turn against the East. "Will Poland
tion of States, there is to be ca simi- remain neutral if I attack the
lar federation in the West and in West?'' vvas the first question
the North. Holland, Belgium, which Hitler put to me when I re·
Switzerland, as well as Denmark, ported to him about an intervie\\'
Norway,. and Sweden, are to sub- with Marshal Pilsudski of Poland.
mit to German leadership on the Then he expounded to me his aims
same terms as the small East in the East, which went even far-
European states. They have to ther than those \vhich I have just
cease to be independent states. outlined. He added that he \vould
They are to enter in to the Befthls- be pleased, of course, if he could
raum, the "commanding sphere," carry out his Eastern policy wrih
of Greater Germany, as the new the help of Poland rather than
expression has it. They may be against Poland. At that tin1e he /
permitted to keep some measure of presented to me plans similar to
autonomy. But . their economy, those which Foreign ~1inister von
' politics, and social system would be Ribbent.rop put years later to
determined by Germany, by Na- Polish Minister Beck: a joint Ger-
tional Socialism. Most important, man-Polish attack on Russia.
the French, Dutch, and Belgian Besides this "classic" dream,
colonies \Vould be taken over by ho\\'ever, there is another. It like·
Germany. \vise conLemplates domina.tion over
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Eu~ope as a step towards world of no importance as against the
control. But the road it envisages larger world-revolutionary tasks of
is diametrically oppa&ite. Its basic rational economic planning, of
strategy is an alliance, rather than creating the ne\v social order, and
Ia conflict, with Russia. Hitler a "just'' redistribution of the
talked to me at length about this world's wealth. It 'Nas not of such
idea. Nothing, he indicated in ef. . paramount importance, in the end,
feet, would prevent him from re- whether Germans or Ru sians
versing his course- at a moment's would come out on top in this close
notice, if necessary - and march-- symbiosis of Germany and Russia.
ing with the Russians instead of What really mattered was the
against them. finish of the democratic order, free/
There has been from the begin- economy, and capitalism.
ning in the National Socialist Party Though he did not accept these
a group favoring close alliance with ideas, Hitler never rejected them.
Soviet Russia. This idea found wide He countenanced their advocacy
support in influential circles out- -in the Party by a number of r~e­
side the Nazi Party, and even gionalleaders, such as Herr Koch
among groups op}X)Sed to it. Their of Eastern Prussia or Herr Kauf-
view broke sharply with the tra- mann of Hamburg. He reserved for
ditional conceptions of European himself the right to switch to the
middle-class nationalism. It started second road of his revolution
with the necessity of creating a po- whenever he sa\v fit. One may ask
/ litically, socially, and economically whether the German-Russian pact
uniform giant empire from Vlissin- and other things pointing in the
gen (Flushing) to Vladivostok; same direction represent stages
that is, from the North Sea to the along this path towards world
Pacific. It insisted upon the need domination through an alliance of
to create this continental line as these two world revolutionary dic-
the foundation for a ne\V \vorld tatorships.
order- not through \Var, but I think I know Hitler's inten ..
through an alliance with Russia. tions sufficiently \\'ell to be able to
After all, the advocates of this state that this isn't the case. Hitler
scheme said, it mattered little plays a false but bold gam,e. His
whether the vast empire was Na- alliance with Bolsh v ism is only a
tional Socialist or Bolshevik. The tactical expedient. In cl ue tin1e h
differences were, in their opinion, \vill abandon his alliance \\ith Ru ..
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sia just as he dropped his pact with both partners. Who could deny
Poland. Before this happens, ho,v- that the Soviet Union is now in the
ever,. he expects to win a decisive process of improving its strategical
victory -over France and bring and military-geographical position
about the isolation of England. with regard to Germany? And
I had occasion to speak with who could deny that Germany's
Hitler several times on matters position has been \Veakened owing
touching upon his Russian policy. to Russia's westward advance?
In 1934 he suggested to me that I Hitler is ready to put up with this
go to Russia and make connections. as the tem}X>rary price for con-
Actually the conne~tions of the quering the European West and
National Socialist Party with So- securing his rear during the present
viet Russia had never been broken war. He intended to achieve this by
off. ~litler discussed the difficul- attempting to win Poland over to
ties. He railed at the Bolsheviks as an alliance or to a neutral position.
"Jewish masters of chicanery"; He believes he has achieved it now
th~e Bolsheviks always wanted to through an alliance with Russia.
get a complete ~old of you, he And after conquering the West he
said. No alliance of equal partners \vill again turn his face to the East.
was possible with them: there was Then, having obtained a broad
only domination or submission. He continental basis in Northern Asi3
hinted that in case of an alliance at Russia's expense, Hitler will
with Russia he faced the danger of take up the final destruction of the
dealing with an adversary who was Anglo·Saxon powers- that is, the
superior to him in the domain of a11nihilation of the British Empire
domestic policy. And he explained and the occupation of the United
to me that he was ready to do any· States, \\·hich in the meantime will
thing, even to conclude an alliance have become exhausted by domes-
with Russia, if this should improve tic revolutions. W1th the gigantic
Germany's position. But such an Beet to be constructed in sub-
alliance would never prevent him sequent years, he would enter
I from. eventually reverting to his the final phase of his policy: the
· real aim- the conquest or dis- achievement of world hegemony.
memberment of Russia. Such is Hitler's obsession, far-
Thus, what is going on now is fetched though it must sound to
merely a tactical move. It is a any who have not experienced
joint action offering advantages to the man's unlimited megalomania.
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III this -conquered mass of laborers
there is to rise the class of Germans
I have rep·e atedly heard Hitler and German allies who would
himself expand upon his social supply the skilled workers, the
ideas, and there has hardly been a industrial managers and the gov- /
ruler in modern times who has ernment functionaries. These, in
held the masses in such cynical turn, would have above them the
contetnpt. Once, during a con- privileged class of National Social-
versation in the innermost circle ist Party members, and it is out of
about the German policy in the their ranks that the revolutionary
East, I heard him explain what army is to be recruited. Finally,
seemed to him particular! y im- the whole edifice would be cro\vned
portant in the acquisition of a free by the new nobility, the National
"living space." It was the "social Socialist elite, forming a select
system,'' the \vay of life foreseen group of masters, who alone would
y National Socialisn1. No civi- enJOY full liberty and a monopoly
lization, Hitler said, can exist of po\:ver.
wi~hout a foundation of slavery. -Summed up, these ideas may
ew jorn1s of .rlavery 111ust be appear rank insanity. Yet they are
evolved, he said. Fro1n tin1e im- the motivating intentions of the
memorial the subjected races, the Nazis, and the attempt to carry
prisoners of \Var, were the slaves of them out \\ill be made if Hitler
the conquerors. In the future, sub· \vins. They are bc1ng put in prac-
jected n~tionalities constitute the tice " 'here\ er Hitler does \:vin.
lowest class of society. 1"'heir task The Czechs and the Poles are
\Vould be to perform unskilled treated as virtual sla\ es. Their
\Vork in the industries and in the fate is shared by those Germans
fields. They \Vould have no rights. '' ho oppose the regime. Forced-
Yes, he deciaimcd, \\'e should labor camps \Yill become perma-
haYe the courage to admit the nent and essential institutions in
I advatjtages of -illiteracy. A stop the ne\v \vorld -wide social system.
should be put to the talk about the Privileged groups among Party
ideal of public education for all. members and the National Social-
Science and education are " 'capons ist elite have already set them-
of dotnination. There should be no selves apart as a ne\v ruling nobil-
fr·ce access to them, except for th~ ity, exempt from all l~ i ddle-class
benefit of privileged groups. ~~bovc tenets of honor and ethics .
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What Hitler has in mind .goes only would this subjugated area
back to alleged historical experi- lose its independence and its
ence. He makes it his peculiar spe.cific forms of sovereignty, but
ambition to carry out c.onsciously National Socialist philosophy would .
\vhat in former historical crises be imposed. Brutal compulsion,
transpired of itself. "Yes, we are terror, lies, spies, and informers
barbarians" he told me once. "It is would strangle all personal life.
our duty to break into the decay- Hundreds of millions would de--
ing, democratic world, just as the liberately be reduced to the hope-
Germanic barbarians broke into lessness of a semi~animal existenc~.
the ancient Roman Empire. And With cold, cruel calculation mil-
it is in the midst of combats and lions of humans would be slowly
destruction that we will create a tortured to death. Vast territories
new civilization." Such a will, would be turned into an enormous
conscious} y, almost zealously cruel, workshop, turning out war rna-
and d·e dicated to the destruction terial on a still more gigantic scale
of that which exis.ts, recognizes for the final conquest of the world.
neither humanity, morality, nor Science and art, both being un-
inherent rights. "We must be thinkabl~ without the liberty of
cruel" is another saying of Hit- creative effort, will dry up and
ler's, which he frequently uses- die. A few years ago the aged
in the circle of his cl~t associates. German physicist, Dr. Planck,
Hitler's victory would plunge spoke to me sadly of the ease with
the whole world into savagery. which the most vital threads of an
It would spell a breakdown of all intellectual community could be
political and spiritual tr:~ditions broken. The creative force of our
beyond anything experienced in civili7~tion lives in a few thousand
the eight or ten thousand years of men with the highest intellectual
our history. It is easy to predict accomplishments. They are in the
what would happen in the political possession of the invaluable ex-
field. Europe, from the Atlantic perience of millenniums of intel-
coast to the Pripet marshes in lectual work. If that intellectual
Poland and to the Black Sea - continuum. should break, w·e are
perhaps even beyond that,. to the beyond salvation, doomed to re·-
Urals or to the Pacific- will vert to the darkness of barbarism.
constitute a single terri tory sub· Nor will it be possible to reproduce
jected to National Socialistn. Not the external technical improve-
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ments of our life for any length of destruction now has at its disJX>sa.l
time if the scientific achievements technical means which external
upon which they are based can no barbarians never ~ed. Far
longer be maintained. more fearful than the annihilation
It is easy, as I said, to foresee of human life and cities wilfbe the
the political and territorial conse- invisible d~truction, the shatter-
quences of a Hitler victory. It is ing of moral concepts. Already the
not so easy for the modern mind to world feels the contagious effects
envisage the whole deep horror of of a "realism" whose motto is
its moral and social consequences. "That which is useful is right."
Europe has again and again been Hitler has destroyed right as an
shaken by invasions of barbarians independent human category. In
who were either driven back his own country he has deprived
eventually, or assimilated. Today the population of all civil rights.
the invasion is from within, not He will recognize no right wha'-
from \Vithout. And the will-to-- ever if he wins.

REPRINTED F'ROM "HITLER TOLD ME THIS",


AMERICAN MERCURY, DECEMBER 1959

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