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Do we have an enemy sub now?
I knew I'd see this day.
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They had me at "kindness coins that don't seem to work in women's holes"
This is a treasure trove of posting karma.
Good luck mining: https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/
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No. I don't think so.
Our sub doesn't condone attacking any other subs/users/people or brigading.
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how nice of you
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I mean, upon going through and reading posts and comments you've made, you are
attacking other people. The receipts are there, my dude.
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I mean, upon going through and reading posts and comments you've made, you
are attacking other people.
You mean on my sub? Where the comments are directed at inordinate images and text
on a computer screen? Those comments? Yeah, those aren't subs/users/people.
The receipts are there, my dude.
No, there isn't, but you would love to have proven you are somehow better than me
that way.
Ok, bring an actual argument to the table here. You have all these emotions around
me and what I am saying, and I'm flattered, but I would like to learn and grow my
perspectives as well. If you can't bring an intelligent argument, than that doesn't
benefit me and there isn't much reason to continue. You see what I am saying?
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I mean, making hateful commentary on someone's dating profile that you've never
met seems pretty hateful.
The main difference between r/niceguys and your subreddit is that here, virtual
strangers will ask women for nude photos/dates, and blow up when the woman
kindly rejects with threats of rape and homicide. On your sub, however, you guys
are making hateful commentary on profiles of people you've never met. Do you
see the difference there? Niceguys talks shit about people who completely break
social norms. Your subreddit shits on complete strangers and their prefrences.
Sure, sometimes preferences are harsh, but literally has some to a degree.
You say we're being emotional, but honestly in every response to you I've seen
people have been giving arguments that appeal to pathos.
As for no reciepts, in one comment you say you'd like to be with a beaten woman
because you can reinstill fear. That's just a shot type thing to say, even if it is
satire. You know what they say about humor/satire, if you have to explain it, it's
probably not funny, my pal.
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did you know women are people too btw :p you know, the people you feel entitled to
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I don't feel entitled to anyone for any reason. My words and actions so far have said
as much.
The type of argument fallacy you are using is called The Ad Hominem Argument. It's
where you can not or refuse to address any of my points and make short jabs about
my character or intelligence.
Given the other argument fallacies that I have been privileged into dealing with today
from your other esteemed members, this seems par for the course in understanding
other peoples perspectives.
I had just considered that a comment where we openly do not condone attacking other
people/subs/etc would be seen as something more than another reason to weasel in
your highlighted narrative.
Apparently, I had expected too much.
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r/IAmVerySmart
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Well, I'd rather seem like I'm trying too hard, than clearly not try at all.
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He is just looking for attention. As he replies on nearly every post.
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He is just looking for attention. As he replies on nearly every post.
Pot meet kettle.
Bitch we all know you sit behind your computer all day and play
games in your moms house.
Sounds like I got it made then. Are you jealous or something?
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You got made what? Hahaha you got made what bro? A baby does
that too, hanging on its mothers breast. Oh im so jealous i want
some of your moms tittymilk too hmm.
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Yes you had, and if you had saved these essays for your homework, you would too
now be graduating from a university like the tu delft and have a company like i do
and feel a sense of dignity and self worth. But you dont and feel the need to
graduate on reddit. Good luck to you sir lancelot.
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I don't know what you are trying to say. You pointed out that I am entitled to
women, when I don't feel that way and I never expressed that. I don't have
any problems with women. You assume that I don't have sense of dignity and
self worth, and I'm not sure where you are getting that from either. Is it
possible that you think I am someone else or you just have some emotion and
are targeting it to someone everyone else just considers deserving.
have a company like i do
Wat
But you dont
Wat
Are you a child, as in under 18 years of age? I would feel better about your
drivel if you were.
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Bitch we all know you sit behind your computer all day and play games in
your moms house. If you had a sense of dignity you wouldnt be defending
some sexist sub made for snotty manchildren by snotty manchildren, you
would have something better to do than that. Now i feel like i have to
school someone like if im some kind of a mom, ew. I said bye sir lancelot,
obviously without a job but not self aware enough of how shitty you come
over to the rest of us.
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If you stopped talking down to people you might get laid
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Why would getting or not getting laid be a reason to avoid pointing out an
obvious flaw in someones argument?
These are the types of shaming tactics that get used to show refuted
arguments as having merit. It doesn't work because you don't have any
substance to present your ideas. It just makes you look like a child. I don't
know if you are or not, but it wouldn't behoove you to look like one here. That
being said, I'm sure you will still get plenty of upvotes to validate how smart
and clever your comment is.
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Well when you get laid, you suddenly see less flaws in the world overall :')
true story
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His arguments are still better than your strawman strategy, because its
leaking like a bitch
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"The sex we're entitled to". Incel level shiz right there. Probably wants state mandated gfs too.
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I like how it mentions the “sex we’re entitled to” then states that nice guys are “accused” of
believing that they are entitled to sex
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I totally overlooked that. That's a contradiction if I ever saw one. Thanks for bringing that
up.
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It's confusing because the first paragraph is them attempting to be sarcastic about the
concept of a "nice guy" as characterized by this sub, followed by two paragraphs
demonstrating that they fit their sarcastic stereotype completely.
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You're right.
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That's what I thought was bizarre as well. At first it seems satirical, but then it
quickly turns downright misogynistic and vile.
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"usedup vaginas"
These guys have no clue how vaginas function.
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The dumbest part of the "used up vaginas" thing is that they unironically think that having
sex with one dick 50 times doesn't use it up, but having sex with 50 dicks, once each, does
use it up. They don't see that nonsense as a contradiction at all...?
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I also wonder if they think dicks can be used up as well.
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Obviously not! As one of the creators/subscribers of the sub so helpfully commented
way below, only women have "sexual advantages." Therefore men's dicks must not be
considered used up, as that maintains a level playing field!
/s
I didn't say sexual advantages.
I said:
largely favors them in reproduction
Is this not true?
I don't agree with your premise, but this stood out as interesting.
Therefore men's dicks must not be considered used up
Which gender can reproduce after 50 years of age?
as that maintains the level playing field
There is no level playing field. Both genders bring a completely set of
characteristics, benefits, disadvantages to themselves and potential parters.
helpfully commented
I actually came here to be helpful. I wanted you to understand the distinct
differences from our sub from the type of content you normally post here. I don't
believe this post actually fits the theme of your sub. Really that is it, I intend to
bring no more unwanted discourse here, because it is clear from the quotes that
are being misappropriated and in this example, a literal nonquote that you aren't
really interested in fully understanding the nature of what you are talking about,
just that it serves to highlight your ideology.
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Is this not true?
It really isn't. How does reproduction "favour" women biologically in any way?
Can you actually provide some example?
Which gender can reproduce after 50 years of age?
You do realize that women stop being able to reproduce because they literally
run out of eggs right? It's not because they "rode the cock carousel," lmao.
Having more sex doesn't make a woman run out of eggs any faster. It's pretty
hilarious that when my point was, "women's vaginas don't get used up by
having sex with many people," your response was that they're naturally unable
to reproduce after 50, never mind that that happens even if they don't have
sex.
Also let's not even pretend that the manosphere's insistence that women get
sexually used up has anything to do with reproduction. You're the literal first to
have (fallaciously) brought up reproduction here, everyone else brings up the
fact that their "vaginas become as loose as roast beef." If you don't get how
that's about sexuality rather than reproduction, read up on "tightness" of
vaginas and how so many men fetishize that. The "used up" argument has
always been about a bunch of men who put their own sexual needs and desires
at the top of the hierarchy, and pretend that women shouldn't have sexual
needs or desires, thus them having sex with anyone at all denies "good men"
their "right" to sex.
There is no level playing field. Both genders bring a completely set of
characteristics, benefits, disadvantages to themselves and potential parters.
Wow. A reasonable statement I can agree with!
It's a pity that you think that "vaginas getting used up by having a lot of sec,"
is an actual thing. I'd have agreed pretty wholeheartedly with such a
reasonable list of things if the sublists weren't so misguided.
I actually came here to be helpful. I wanted you to understand the distinct
differences from our sub from the type of content you normally post here. I
don't believe this post actually fits the theme of your sub. Really that is it, I
intend to bring no more unwanted discourse here, because it is clear from
the quotes that are being misappropriated and in this example, a literal
nonquote that you aren't really interested in fully understanding the nature
of what you are talking about, just that it serves to highlight your ideology.
Believe me, we know you came here with an honest point of view, and I'm sure
a lot of people appreciate your ability to have a civil discussion even as they
disagree with you. We're just saying that there's a very small difference
between you and the rest of the manosphere. You, from the little bit we've
seen, seem to share the objectifying and malecentred beliefs of the
manosphere, but don't act on them viciously at all.
While the lack of viciousness is always a good thing, the beliefs themselves are
still debatable and (according to many of us) misguided and will be rightly
called out.
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Well put!
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I am SO looking forward to your stupid subreddit! It is going to give this
subreddit so much material!
And we'll see you over at r/badwomensanatomy all the time as well.
This is gonna be good.
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Wew lad. You're a pretty fucked up kid huh?
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No. Care to explain your point further or do you just feel like spouting
obscenities because you are unable to detach yourself from your emotions?
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You keep talking about detaching yourself from your emotions. The
subreddit itself was clearly made as some sort of emotional
tantrum. The lack of self awareness is truly befuddling.
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I think you meant to reply to /u/where_muh_good_mens
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Keep in mind that when i mentioned that he is probably a bitch that
is gaming all day and living at his moms house still without a job, he
replied with: so what, guess i have it all set then
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Dating profiles are not private if anyone can see them.
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Fair enough, but my point still stands.
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It isn't a rule to detach yourself from your emotions. It is an
intelligent desire to communicate effectively. Not sure why you
would even respond if you thought I was imposing any rules upon
you in the first place. I don't owe you anything, and I'm hoping that
feeling is mutual, because I would rather have as much of an
unbiased discussion as possible.
That's some top shelf projection there kid. The other reply to this
comment sums up
Actually, it didn't sum that up. The commentator did however, sum
up very succinctly how they disagreed with my arguments. They did
not attack me or make assumptions about me. They actually
admitted that they didn't agree with my beliefs, instead of, what
you and other commentators do, is attempt to discredit my stance
with their own targeted hatred and shaming tactics. What the above
poster did, and I'm hoping you will be able to learn from, is they
used what I was saying, even complimented me where to show they
have the capacity to engage in fair discussion, as a way to make
their own points. They knew that I would ignore what they said if
they didn't at least attempt to understand what I am saying.
I visited your sub and do you know what I saw? I saw a bunch of
angry men bitching and complaining about strangers on the
internet.
Ok, on the devils advocate here, you are not a bunch of angry
feminists bitching and complaining about strangers on the internet?
Seems like you don't realize you are wearing the same shoes.
I see men cutting down women's online profiles for absolutely no
reason other than their undeserving air of superiority.
Online profiles where a women is entitled to a man of some value,
while not offering the equal or above subjective value in return?
Well, I guess you only like posting mens private entitled discussions
because you are far more superior in all of the ways that could be
morally subjective in your own right.
I'm not going to address any of your other points, because, quite
frankly it would be a waste of time. You have shown me that you
care more about serving your own agenda than growing as a person
or learning about someone else.
Take a page from one of your own members, u/AAABattery03 , and
learn how to communicate with people with dignity and humility.
Maybe then, I will engage in this discussion further with you.
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You think this sub is a feminism sub? Wow you really are far
gone.
It's crazy that you think you don't deserve shade thrown at you.
You seem to think that no one should be able to criticize you,
unless they are nice and give you compliments to balance it out.
This is exactly what I was talking about; an inflated ego and
sense of selfworth. You deserve to be shit on for your horrible
sub.
Online profiles where a women is entitled to a man of some
value, while not offering the equal or above subjective value
in return? Well, I guess you only like posting mens private
entitled discussions because you are far more superior in all
of the ways that could be morally subjective in your own
right.
I don't post anything here. I just comment on the crazy
comments like yours. If you don't see the difference between
this sub and yours, then you're exactly the type of guy who
would be featured on this sub. This sub does not ascribe any
"approval" of the men we make fun of. It isn't about rallying
together to hate on men. Your sub is exactly about rallying
together to hate on women.
I'm not going to address any of your other points
Because they're 100% valid, and deep down you know your
position is indefensible unless you want to come off as a
complete asshole niceguy.
learn how to communicate with people with dignity and
humility
And there it is again. Your narcissistic nature and inflated sense
of selfworth. It is laughable that you're complaining about not
receiving dignity and respect, yet your sub is completely about
tearing down women whose only "crime" was to post on a dating
website.
You're so far gone that there probably is no hope for you. You've
built up a wall of bullshit around yourself. It is so bad that you
can't even admit to yourself that you're horrible.
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Hey hey psst, have you heard about prince harry, he married a used up vagina,
guess used up vaginas can get shit done after all
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I mean, are we ignoring the obvious here?
This guy’s dick 50 times probably... probably doesn’t do much damage. shrug
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I've seen some of them argue this point by claiming that vaginas reshape themselves to
accept the penis they are currently having sex with. So if a woman only has sex with one
man, her vagina will be unaffected by this phenomenon, but sleeping around will mean
that her vagina will be constantly reshaping itself until it's loose and unappealing. How
fucking delusional can you be?
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Right. And what would happen to the wives they will never have once they reached their
thirties? Would they describe them as having "depreciated looks" and "usedup vaginas"?
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Prince harry married a used up vagina, so they feel like they deserve better than a royal
would settle with
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That's incellevels delusional
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What are you talking about, it's scientific fact that each vagina has a certain number of
individual dicks it can take. Once that number is reached the vagina shrivels and becomes
unpleasant leading to chads no longer desiring it. This causes the woman to turn to the nice
guys who have always treated them right but only get this sad used up vagina... it's science
/s
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guess prince harry totally married a used up vagina and the whole royal familly approved of
it, but this bitch, this bitch is above them
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I'm confused. Are they with the NiceGuys or against the NiceGuys?
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I guess we get another source of material?
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Yay for us
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And yay for more sorrowtv videos
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Imma OD on Schadenfreude someday at this rate.
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I just went and had a peek. It's literally just a sub complaining about women being women?
One of the first posts on there is a dating profile of a woman expressing her expectations in
her bio, but apparently she's not allowed to have those expectations because, in her photos,
her "tits and ass are hanging out." It's not at all like r/nicegirls. They're calling out literally
any attractive woman who "claims" to want a decent guy.
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They are the "nice guys" against niceguys sub
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It seems like they just shame dating profiles of single mothers who sound a bit arrogant. They
write long paragraphs about how ugly and whorelike they are and how stupid they are for
even having children, blaming them for having broken up a family and all that (because
couples can't fall out of love when they have a kid, you know). Also they shame the women
who are simply looking for something casual, they are, of course, whores looking for chads.
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Ugh if you cant even tell that by yourself then just leave
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I looked. It’s fucking madness. Just pure projection & unfettered cruelty. Woman with a child?
“Oh, she’s just looking for some cuck to raise her baby for her since Chad won’t.” Woman with a
half black child? “Oh she’s just looking for some cuck to raise her baby for her since Tyrone
won’t.” Even slightly overweight? “Look at this whale thinking she deserves love, lol.” The list
goes on.
It’s basically the dregs of humanity. It’s fascinating in a sickening way but it truly makes you
wonder how people got so broken.
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Oh and the racism. Jesus Christ the racism.
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That's a global thing, I guess. In Germany, for instance, niceguys don't accuse women of
going for Chad, but for Murat or Hamid. If the boyfriend is middleeastern there's no way
they will accept the possibility that he treats her right. I think the American equivalent is
Tyrone.
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If only they knew what being broken means, they arent even broken they are just a bunch of
spoiled narcissistic kids and manchildren that cant get what they want when they click with
their fingers
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Or because NiceGuys™ aren't nice guys
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they say they're a response to r/niceguys... by pointing and laughing at single women on dating
sites. They only post hate. Well done. Have they looked at what gets posted here? Almost
everything on here is a 'nice guy' calling someone a slut for not reply to a message.
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I sincerely doubt, on a cellular level, that any woman ever has wondered where these dudes have
been.
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looks like we’re going to war bois
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Sir. Do we send a diplomatic envoy to r/prequelmemes and her allies?
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gears up
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We're dropping in /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen lads.
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War is good for both subs. Although r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen will not fight back. We are
better than that.
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No. No you're not. There is nothing in the world that you're better than.
I've never come across a more wretched hive of frustrated malice and stupidity than at
your sub. I feel both horror and deep pity for you guys. Not joking.
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Well...there is /r/The_Donald...
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Is it because you're so nice? Is that why you won't fight back. I bet you're a really nice
guy. I wonder why women won't give you a chance. Oh wait, you legit think you're
entitled to sex you shitlord.
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"We created a place where we can vent, laugh, learn and discuss openly the issues
we have with women"
"It would be selfdefeating in that purpose to openly engage in debate of the
opposite gender"
Did you just say you have issues with women and don't want to talk to women? Do
you at all think it is possible for women who are nice, decent people to be utterly
offended at that sentiment? To be offended that you demean and belittle women
who engage in sexual activity at their free will?
You are not entitled to sex or respect when you attack others for having sex and
having selfrespect. In fact, nobody, regardless of gender, is entitled to sex. You
can be married and tell your partner no. It's called bodily autonomy.
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Did you just say you have issues with women and don't want to talk to
women?
No, you quoted me, so I'm sure you would understand just as well what I said,
but I will bold the most important part.
"It would be selfdefeating in that purpose to openly engage in debate of the
opposite gender"
Do you at all think it is possible for women who are nice, decent people to
be utterly offended at that sentiment?
I don't believe we are on the same page here, as my issue isn't with women. I
don't have issues with women. I don't have problems talking with women.
To be offended that you demean and belittle women who engage in sexual
activity at their free will?
Have all the sex you want, just don't come crying that all the good men won't
wife you up... See how that works? You are just taking a few things you don't
like about what I'm saying and creating falsehoods in order to deploy your
agenda. It isn't working, and serves no purpose, because the person you are
trying to convince is me. As evidenced by the disrespect some of the members
here are encouraged and promoted to engage in, I would say they need no
more patting on the back about the merits of the sub.
You are not entitled to sex or respect when you attack others for having sex
and having selfrespect.
How about:
You are not entitled to sex or respect.
That sentence is more succinct and accurate.
You can be married and tell your partner no.
Free will to do what ever you desire. I'm not pushing for anybody to do
anything they don't want to do. I would defend anyone's will to do whatever
they wanted to do as long as it harmed no one.
Somewhere in the lines of emotional fortitude and self serving ideologies, you
became lost in what you wanted to say to me. I'll give you another chance,
though, because I believe your intentions were well meaning.
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Have all the sex you want, just don't come crying that all the good men
won't wife you up...
Dude needs therapy...
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I just have a quick question: Do you believe everybody on this sub is a
woman?
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Is that because you guys are nice or because you have no way of fighting back aside from
namecalling?
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Is that because you guys are nice
It isn't because we are nice, as I already pointed out, we are not.
or because you have no way of fighting back aside from namecalling?
What namecalling? I haven't done anything of the sorts. Are you lost?
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What I mean is you lack the capacity to fight back aside from petty things like
namecalling. I thought it was pretty obvious but clearly I have to over explain
everything to you
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What I mean is that I don't call anyone names and we don't condone that
behavior in our sub. Apparently, I have to overly explain this to you.
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But you name call women on your sub all of the time? There are some deep
flaws in your argument
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[–] Chiber_11 1 point 44 minutes ago
I didn’t think this would devolve that much lol
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I really thought he would respond to that tbh. I had a link to
disprove him and
everything.https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/com
ments/8krzwc/contemporary_western_womens_attitude_towards/dz
a575y/
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Once again they fail to understand that kindness and niceness literally is the bare fucking
minimum, and girls not dating guys who only demonstrate those qualities in limited interactions is
NOT girls lying about what they want.
Additionally, who would want to be dating someone who is literally choking back the fact they
aren’t attracted to you? Like who would want that? Wouldn’t you want your SO to be attracted to
you? The fact that you have fallen in love with the fantasy relationship you’ve invented with your
head does not allow you to project your anger when you find out m’lady isn’t into you. And guess
what, her not being into you isn’t some global conspiracy women are pulling over in the nice
guys.
If you want a woman and she doesn’t want you back, move on. Figure out what kind of man you
want to be independently and get some cool shot of your own going in your life. No woman wants
a man who solely exists to fawn all over m’lady. Now, being a busy, hardworking and driven
person who find a way to make time for your SO? That is actually meaningful to a potential
partner.
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That's cringey
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Is this metametametacontent?
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Lost me at "sex we're entitled to".
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Yaaay. Now we have r/NiceGirls from a sight of r/NiceGuys!
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There's more.
But when she's in her 30s with depreciated looks, jerks who won't commit, the likelihood of
being a single mom, and the social pressure from her married peers, she asks "Where have all
the good men gone?"[1][2] Funny how back when she was chasing the bad boys for a good
time he was a "pathetic Nice Guy" unworthy of dating, but now that she's past her prime and
needs a bailout he's a "Real Man" who treats her with respect.
What's more, dating jerks and riding the carousel before settling down with a Good Man is
deliberately planned by women,[1][2][3] and encouraged by feminists, which only results in
carousel riders bringing their selfserving, unappreciative, unstable behavior into longterm
relationships.
Sorry m'ladies! The Good Men you rejected are waking up to the bullshit and moving on to
younger women and happier lives. The rest are checking out of a gynocentric society that
dishonors them through false accusations, divorce rape, rampant hypergamy, and
discrimination. Thy pussy pass hath been denied. <tips fedora>
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Those younger women: please stop texting me.
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Holy hell, you people will argue about anything. Look at all of those walls of text.
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Dear god...
We’ve found the ultimate nice guys.
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From NiceGuys™ to incels
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The memes really do write themselves somtimes
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The comments on threads in that subreddit. It sets men and women back about 3.5 billion years
in progress. The sexism is so extreme. It's unbelievable.
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Jesus. Aren’t there already enough incel subreddits on Reddit?
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There can never be enough hating women on Reddit. It's basically what Reddit is. After all it is
a male dominated geek/tech/nerdy community.
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No surprise an incel,mra, and redpill hate group...on reddit. Just goes to show any mass of men
tends to have misogyny rampant.
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Some of these people fail to realize that everyone's idea of a "good man" is different. Also, why
are so many of them concerned with whom a woman does/doesn't have sex with?
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Are there women out there that date the worst kinds of guys, and then sit there and complain
about it? Yes. But 99% of girls aren't like that, and besides, you're not owed sex anyway.
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I like how they obviously want to sound as neutral,self aware and "whatever" as possible, while
still saying "in response to /r/niceguys". Oh,and the use of the term "cock caroussel" does not
help their case.
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This is a goodish thing, no? We’re nutting on all the nice guys referring to all or most women,
but some are actually that way they describe, and should be called out
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If you guys care enough, you'll find that many of the members are also braincels/ past incels sub
reddit posters. It's just another sub of theirs that they'll claim is "LOL SATIRE," but in reality
they're serious.
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I have read most of the comments from this thread and...Jesus, can you guys stop? The sidebar
is satire.
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See I hate hate hate this explanation. From 4chan to t_d to various racist and sexist subs, all
have started in the name of satire. However they have invariably attracted hardcore racist or
sexist people who have promoted these things and even violence in real life and have been
quickly taken over by those elements. Aren't there enough racist and sexist subs out there
and do we need more such "satire?
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Lol, as a guy who actually respects women but isn't going to hate on anyone I'm just going to
watch both of these threads from a third perspective of society ripping itself apart because it's
obsessed with sex. To me the argument for abstinence gets clearer everyday.
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Lol, wut mate?
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No clue, that happens sometimes.
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We are neither NiceGuysTM nor nice guys. This is a satirical sub designed to expose the worst of
the female form, just as you guys have designed a place to expose the worst of males.
We also offer a reasonable bar of truth to our dark comedy and engage discussions from all walks
of life.
We aren't against anyone, especially not any subs. You are all welcome and we encourage you to
speak your mind, however, trolling, white knighting, and debating will result in bans.
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Yeah, but in the description of the sub above they describe their interactions with women
as “inserting kindness coins” which then should result in them getting “the sex they’re
entitled to.”
Women aren’t vending machines of carnal experiences, and if we were then clearly your
kindness coins are counterfeit.
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Thanks for clarifying.
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The sidebar is worded as satire. It shows newcomers not only what to expect, but how
to direct their feelings. It isn't meant to be taken literately as evidenced by the fact
that "We are just a bunch of clueless NiceGuys"... We are making fun of ourselves
here to show the ridiculousness of both sides.
Men aren't entitled to anything, just as much as women aren't. The problem is that
women are allowed to be entitled and demand a higher value then they bring because
society and biology largely favors them in reproduction.
I'm not really going to debate this further, as this doesn't seem to be the appropriate
platform. You'll either have to come check out content and make your own decision as
to whether the sidebar is indicative of the literal or satirical sense that it is portraying.
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Took a quick look, calling women "stuck up bitches" and complaining about people
having reasonable demands towards their partners is not in any way satirical
considering they're the most upvoted comments. Then using words like "Chads"
unironically just screams r/toneddownincelsbutjustassalty
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calling women "stuck up bitches"
Not women, some women. Just as some guys are assholes, but not all guys.
Surely you can make this distinction?
complaining about people having reasonable demands
Ohh yeah, just like a NiceGuy has a 'reasonable demand' for sex. Wat.jpg
using words like "Chads" unironically
Some men are more attractive then others. Some women are more attractive
then others. A cultural references that popularizes this notion serves to
communicate that concept. It is possible you didn't understand the material,
and that is fine, it isn't for you. Have a nice day.
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See, I want to downvote you because I completely disagree with every
single word you're saying but you're also being really nondickish about it
which is making it hard to antagonize you. So I'm conflicted rn
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Drop your conflict: this guy may be able to project a momentary normal
facade, but he's a seething mass of misogyny and malice on the inside.
Have you looked at the sub he linked to? It's creepy as hell. Not satire,
not humor, not anything clever or true. Just hate, malice and envy.
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I've never attacked anyone. I don't condone malicious intent and I
sure as hell don't tolerate malice.
I expose failure and happen to direct my interests at the opposite
gender, just as you do.
We may have a different idea as to how the best way to accomplish
that is, or as to the terms of what is considered "failure", but that
doesn't mean that I am the detestable person you would rather
make me out to be.
The fact that you assume who I am "on the inside" is telling of who
are, though.
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"Who I am" is somebody who has looked at comments you've
written, and looked through posts on the subreddit you advertise
and spend time on. The only thing it "tells" is that I can read
what you've written.
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I've never attacked anyone. I don't condone malicious intent
and I sure as hell don't tolerate malice.
Really?
Because, thats what you are gonna get with this 'meh' selfie
serving fatty. As soon as Tyrese calls, she'll be tingles and
anxiety about looking good around the house, and by that I
mean, all around the house
My my, aren't you just a puddle of sunshine.
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continue this thread
[–] connieways 3 points 3 hours ago*
Going by your subreddit. Failure is any woman that doesn't
kowtow to a highly unrealistic mold.
Take this post like so many others. She is talking about how she
divorced her husband she grew apart from who completely
checked out of the relationship and is a bit sour grapes that he
suddenly decided to put in effort after the divorce. Yet somehow
that is one of the most egregious examples of women behaving
badly in the manner of losing the ability to attract good
men/going for a jerk after abusing decent guys, and acting
entitled to make attention.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/
8l241w/i_am_not_sure_if_this_belongs_here_i_kind_of_want/
She says: The last 23 years together were horrible. After his
dad passed away, he gained all this weight and lost his job. I
tried to help and support him but he would just wallow in self
pity. He stopped pitching in around the house. He spent all his
free time smoking weed and dicking around on the computer. He
had to sell his junk car to help pay our bills.
Your sub translates it to mean: "His dad passed away, but he
was a man so I don't know why he was so depressed. Then for
reasons I can't understand, he became depressed and it's
almost like he had a life changing event. But nothing changed
with me, so I don't understand why he all of a sudden didn't
give a shit about life anymore. If it was his mother i'd
understand, but wtf does a father even do?"
Just be honest. Your subreddit is just a redpill emotional
response to certain individual male behavior being pointed out.
Rather than be tied to any shitty reputation by the redpill you
claim it's just doing what niceguys do
But again your sub is nothing like this sub as most of the posts
have nothing to do with women who used decent guys going for
jerks then acting entitled to relationships with high uneven
demands. Most of the posts on this sub showed a guy displaying
niceguy behavior. Unlike your sub we don't have to project,
assume, translate...the guy says it himself.
But again your sub is nothing like this sub as most of the
comments seem to use any and all posts to start attacking and
generalizing women to fit a certain mold rather than responding
to the woman in the post and her behavior.
Let's see some of the comments in that thread:
Women do this all the time. All of the time it is a cliche.
Man is hurting, woman increases shit tests. Society says you
go girl. Society says fuck you, you fucking white male. So
she divorce his sorry ass.
Woman is hurting, man tries to help and turns himself inside
out. Society says you go girl. Society says fuck you, you
fucking white male. So she divorces his sorry ass.
Hmm yeah that sure isn't generalizing women or using a
trope of evil women and poor innocent victimized men as
the status quo. Nope it's just doing what this sub does
addressing individual male's bad behavior by addressing
individual women's behavior. Definitely not throwing
around misogynistic and sexist standards as the norm.
He changed because he was finally free from her vapid
clutches.
Yep totally not projecting on the basis and BIAS of
misogyny.
Anyways I'm done I'm taking it as just another reddit misogyny.
Thanks for supporting my opinion of men. Just when I thought it
couldn't get shittier. You guys never disappoint.
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The second and third paragraphs do not read as satire; I really wonder what
portion of your subscribers are actually thinking that description is earnest.
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he problem is that women are allowed to be entitled and demand a higher value
Bullshit. Then why are women constantly pressured to lower their standards and
give men chances on the basis that he is nice....when study after study and survey
after survey shows men tend to have the most skewed standards and criteria.
Typical interaction: Guy approaches girl due to his attraction to her looks. Girl
wants to reject him because of his looks...girl is pressured to give him a chance to
see past looks....even though looks is what he approached her on.
Heck most male dating advice is how to get a hot young woman. Most female
dating advice is how to please a man, how to be what men want, and how to get a
man to commit. Men always had higher demands and entitlements since they have
always been in position of powers.
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“Higher value than they bring?” Idk what century you live in but women are
educated and make very good money now too. There’s no better time for a man to
share responsibilities and expenses with a woman. Relationships and marriage are
not transactions anymore. Women contribute economically now more than ever,
and some are even more educated than their partners.
If you keep living in this bubble where women are looking for someone to take
care of them and they can only offer their bodies you’re never going to find anyone
because you see women as objects. It’s no wonder you’re posting trailer trash in
your sub. It’s all you know personally. If that’s who you’re attracted to and those
girls are rejecting you, idk what to tell you.
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women are educated and make very good money now too
Agreed.
There’s no better time for a man to share responsibilities and expenses with
a woman.
Disagree. I do just fine on my own.
Relationships and marriage are not transactions anymore.
Marriage is a commercial agreement between to corporate persons. It very
much is a transaction for services sanctioned by the state.
Relationships were never transactions and usually existed under no fixed
terms, unlike marriage.
Women contribute economically now more than ever
Not sure what that has to do with the side bar or the merits of the sub. You are
getting a little off track beyond 'relationships' and 'interaction between the 2
genders', so I'm not going to address it.
If you keep living in this bubble where women are looking for someone to
take care of them
I don't care if women look for somebody to take care of them. In fact, I'd just
prefer they take care of themselves. So, maybe we are on the same page
there?
you’re never going to find anyone
You mean a woman? I don't want to find one. I hope they just stay away from
me.
because you see women as objects.
I don't see them as objects. It sounds like you are just spitting common
misogyny phrases without actually understanding the purpose of the sub or
what I have said in other posts about myself and other people.
It’s no wonder you’re posting trailer trash in your sub.
Well, you've deviated too far from your reasons. I think I could go along with
this statement, but you would have to remake it given the new information I
have given you.
It’s all you know personally.
You know me personally? I think you are just making all this up, because you
feel so strongly against what I said for some personal reason you have.
If that’s who you’re attracted to and those girls are rejecting you
You think that I post the profiles in my sub because I am attracted to them? I
just don't understand the connection you made there. Sorry, getting rejected is
just a shaming tactic because men must seek out the affection of women and
they benefit from this arrangement in that they put themselves out there to be
sought after by men. Women, for the most part get to reject men, and men,
for the most part, must learn to overcome rejection.
I'm hoping by responding to you, that you will be able to write a response that
avoids assumptions about my character, personality, preferences, or basically
anything that I haven't written about here. All my conversations are directed at
making sense of my world, not at making sense of why I am or not getting
something from my world. Do you see the difference?
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r/nicegirls
Well, that is more of the antithesis to NiceGuys. We post a lot more than that and also
offer a degree of analyses based on the evidence or common assumptions of what we
post.
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Antithesis for you really seems to be fulfilling the persona r/niceguys is looking for.
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You don't understand satire. Nor normal human emotions or behavior. At all.
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I've read the posts and comments. There's no reasonable bar of truth in extremist claims. It's
just plain old typical misogyny and sexism wrapped up in redpill spiel and redpill buzzwords
like divorcerape. Where all the men are poor innocent victims of the evil women.
You guys don't even use cases of women who claimed to want decent guys and go after
jerks.Instead you pick profiles and fill in words that suit your narrative.
This subreddit has a play by play of what it means. There is no logic leap. No filling in the
words. Just screenshots of a guy claiming he is nice and acting entitled to sex/whatever he
wants from her.
Not a single post states or supports any of the comments made on them. Instead it's just a
bunch of angry bitter dudes putting words into others mouths and 'analyzing' words to take
them out of context to suit his reality. Typical male mindsets of it is X because I say it is X.
I do enjoy how you're spewing irrational claims on that subreddit yet acting as if you're a
neutral party here. But hey as long as you aren't a hypocrite and have no problem with a
subreddit that claims men are rapists in waiting and all they care about is using a woman for
her looks as they are uncaring beasts who offer nothing but money at best. That in all
relationships they think about how they could do better and are manipulative shits that cheat
at the drop of a hat and use sex as a weapon with guilt trips about it being about love despite
how they don't actually care if she likes or enjoys the act as long as he gets off. that all they
offer is an shoddy ATM because she will still have to pay for half the money and keep up with
his crazy demands and access to her body.
Companionship is shit because they aren't capable of being genuine friends with women as
they see women as sex objects or sex networks.
Love is shit because their basis is entirely looks...the only reason he even had you as a
consideration is because he wanted to fuck you. Gain some pounds and see how fast his love
disappears. Stop the sex and see how fast his love disappears. There is no better or worst.
That's why when wives are ill most men are cheating or already have another partner lined
up.
Intimacy is shit because they can only relate to themselves it's why they have no . Everything
is about their ego.
Loyalty is shit because they can't even stop themselves from checking out other women in
your presence. And will defend cheating with not getting enough sex..while you as a woman
will get less than half as many orgasms as him. But hey men can be as picky as they won't
even have a relationship without kinks, variety, or bjs...while women can't even have
orgasms as frequent they have to enjoy the journey.
Communication is shit because he's a man so he knows what is right and after all he wouldn't
listen or trust what you say anyways since you have a vagina. And anyways your concerns
and desires are just nagging and bitching he's only interested in having you open your mouth
to praise him, offer sex, or suck his dick. How often do men actually listen and hear what
women say when it's not just a reflection of his own mindset or about sex.
That overall men do not see women as human beings but things. Things to fuck. Things to
punish because oh no he got rejected and isn't having the sex he wants. Things to correct
because of course he is the forever victim. That at best the only way men can actually like
women is when she is a slavehole that cooks for him, cleans for him, only pleases him, and
has sex whenever and however he wants without criteria of her own separate from his likes.
Essentially a clone of himself that serves him like a servant he can fuck. Because as the
selfish irresponsible blame shifting forever victims that men are the only ones they are
capable of loving is themselves.
.oh wait such a subreddit claiming such would never happen because women could never hate
men the way men hate women. There hasn't been any beatingmen rapingmen deadmen and
such subreddits to the extent of such subreddits existed for women.
Goodbye with your typical Male excuse of a subreddit.
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You're not exposing anything when you make extremist irrational generalizations of
women by default or majority having these negative entitled behaviors.
This subreddit exposed certain men behaving badly. This subreddit has screenshots of
men actually behaving as descrived.
Your subreddit acts as if it is the showing the truth of female behavior and only a
minority is not described. Your subreddit has screenshots of women and you projecting
and putting words in their mouth.
That you honestly to claim niceguys ahs your su reddit has the same goal is bullshit.
Especially considering this subreddit gives actual evidence while your is projecting.
There isn't a single cases of a woman behaving as you said just hate. No cases of a
woman acting entitled to a relationship after being with jerks and using decent guys.
Not one.
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You're not exposing anything when you make extremist irrational
generalizations of women by default or majority having these negative entitled
behaviors.
But, I'm not. We use scientific studys to show how men and women are different at
the biological level and how that exudes cultural differences. There is also humor
to keep people interested, maybe that is what you are getting caught up on?
We don't post "all womens profiles", but a small subset of them. Just as you don't
post "all mens communication", just a small subset. We don't claim all women are
these horrible entitled brats, which is why we only post what we do find. I've
looked at plenty of profiles, and it really is about 1 in a 100 depending on the site
I'm on.
Your subreddit acts as if it is the showing the truth of female behavior and only
a minority is not like that.
I mean, believe what you want, but we only post "women behaving badly". So
unless you have some example posts where we point out that "All women are self
serving entitled brats", then I would like to see that, so I can better direct the sub
into not doing that (we do post some memes every now and then, is that what you
are referring to? because that isn't the norm). That would be selfdefeating in our
purpose.
Especially considering this subreddit gives actual evidence while your is
projecting.
No, we give actual profiles with actual words, and actual photos. So, yeah, it is
evidence. You are going to have to be a little more objective. I understand we all
have personal biases and nobody wants others to think they are doing something
unjust, but really making statements like this extremely ignorant or biased to
prove a point, and it really isn't going to change my mind on anything.
There isn't a single cases of a woman behaving as you said just hate.
They all are, IMO. But just so that I can really hammer in the "evidence" that you
aren't seeing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/8knbm5/im_a_nigh
tmare_mess_the_last_chad_i_was_with/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/8k8bev/32f_the_st
ruggle_is_real_kick_ass_mom_sorry_white/
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/8k23l8/24f_preggo
_1_drivethru_translation_ill_take_a/
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You do not use scientific studies that show women behave in the manner you
speak use decent guys, go for jerks, and then act entitled to relationships with
decent guys.
The communication posted on this subreddit already states it is not all men
because it defines the men as nicrguys.
Your subreddit doesn't define the women behaving this way as anything.
Instead it genetalixes it as a default or majority behavior. Again reread my
words and see nowhere did I state all sok stop arguing you didn't say all...I
never accused you of such.
I will believe what your comments in that subreddit state and it is not certain
women behaving badly but women behaving and it is bad. Your words speak as
if divorce rape, nagging, etc is how women are.
Your links just prove my point about you projecting and filling in words to fit
your narrative. Goodbye dude. Your subreddit is just redpill tripe.
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The communication posted on this subreddit already states it is not all
men because it defines the men as nicrguys.
Exactly, as it is not all women, but those that loose their ability to attract
descent men and then ask "Where have all the good men gone?", so a
subset of women, if you will.
That is all I'm going to say about that. Clearly, if you can't see how the
sidebar is satirical, and that we choose only the most egregious examples
of 'women behaving badly', then you are giving yourself a pass to say "You
are only projecting and filling the narrative you want."
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This post just revealed what absolute bullshit your sub is. You keep
switching the narrative. First it was women that use decent guys going
for jerks then when they've hit the wall act like they're entitled to
relationships with the type of decent guys they used. Now it's women
that lose their ability to attract decent guys.
You're not choosing the most egregious examples of women behaving
badly. You're attacking these women based on a strawman mold you
built by assuming, projecting, and filling in the blanks to fit your
narrative of how women behave badly.
Do tell how is this an egregious example of women behaving badly? She
isn't used up, went for a jerk after abusing decent guys, and acting
entitled to make attention. She is talking about how she divorced her
husband she grew apart from who completely checked out of the
relationship and is a bit sour grapes that he suddenly decided to put in
effort after the divorce.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/8l241w/
i_am_not_sure_if_this_belongs_here_i_kind_of_want/
Yet the comments on that sub twist and bend to make her the bad guy
and him the poor victim. The top comment is translating what she says
to suit the narrative of how women supposedly behave badly.
Her words: The last 23 years together were horrible. After his dad
passed away, he gained all this weight and lost his job. I tried to
help and support him but he would just wallow in selfpity. He
stopped pitching in around the house. He spent all his free time
smoking weed and dicking around on the computer. He had to sell
his junk car to help pay our bills.
The translation: "His dad passed away, but he was a man so I don't
know why he was so depressed. Then for reasons I can't
understand, he became depressed and it's almost like he had a life
changing event. But nothing changed with me, so I don't understand
why he all of a sudden didn't give a shit about life anymore. If it was
his mother i'd understand, but wtf does a father even do?"
It blatantly disregards where she says she tried to help him and support
him. It portrays her as some cruel heartless being that expected too
much of a depressed man. Then it adds in some typical male whining
and male victimhood clinging by acting as if she behaved this way
because the viewpoint is fathers are useless. It's typical poor woe male
nonsense.
None of this is intelligent satire but redpill bullshit wrapped up in MRA
cowshit with some sprinkles of incel chickenshit.
The comments completely twist reality to 'translate' what really
happens. Then it goes off into tangents of circle jerking men whining
about marriage while generalizing it as women being bad by default
with typical redpill buzzwords of cuck, beta, and divorcerape.
Do not compare your sub to Niceguys. This sub actually posts content
where the guy does exactly what is defined as niceguy behavior. It
doesn't assume, project, and fill in blanks like your sub almost always
does. This sub doesn't demonize men the way your sub demonizes
women to the extent of reality bending to suit your redpill narrative.
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Down votes prove you guys are more interested in jerking each other off than the truth. How
ironic.
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The downvotes prove that we are really only interested in contributions from emotionally
healthy adults.
Entitled, misogynistic, racist drivel is what we come here to make fun of. Not engage with.
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Entitled, misogynistic, racist drivel is what we come here to make fun of.
Thats fair. I do think you have miscalculated your target though. You may not like what
our members say, and thats because we aren't interested in censorship, but this post is
about the merits of the sub and the sidebar with regards to entitlement of men.
I've already explained how both are incorrect assessments. That we don't consider anyone
entitled to anything. You must bring your value to a relationship just as much as the other
person. The problem arrises when the other person feels they should be able demand
more than they are offering, and we feel that should be exposed, that it is an indication of
a larger problem within society. Maybe you don't agree with "how much value" is allowed
to be brought by each gender to be considered 'entitled', but that is why we have different
subs. I'm hoping you are able to see that we aren't this brigade of selfserving, big dick
wielding sociopaths, just the same as most of us do not consider you to be the dried up
old hags that feel men should cater to their every will without expecting anything in
return.
After having pointed all this out, you continue to express your narrative ignorantly. That is
my point, the downvotes show that even though I agree with the premise of both subs,
somehow r/NiceGuys has been granted a privilege in their own right to expose the dregs
of the male form, but we are not.
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Niceguys has that 'privilege' because it labels the behavior as being a niceguy and
doesn't make extremist irrational generalizations that it is the default or majority
behavior of men. We don't go men this and men that...it's nice guys. We also apply
the comments to that Male in the OP. You guys have one woman and extrapolate into
women in general.
Niceguys has that 'privilege' because the posts actually show the behavior being
mocked. It also doesn't project and assume with fill in the blank. It let's the
screenshots speak for themselves.
Your posts are basically single mom = used up slut on clock carousel who friendzoned
guys and now wants way more than she offers. Then comments about how women are
only good for sex, how women only want marriage after being used up. Rarely do you
specify X women or even focus on the woman in the OP. It is basic misogyny and
bitter rage. Your comments also don't limit itself to the woman in the post or certain
individuals who behavior like her. Instead it applies it to women in general. I read the
comments particularly yours. You don't respond as if addressing the woman or certain
women but women in general.
Anyways I'm done I'm taking it as just another reddit misogyny. Thanks for supporting
my opinion of men. Just when I thought it couldn't get shittier. You guys never
disappoint.
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We don't go men this and men that...it's nice guys. We also apply the
comments to that Male in the OP.
Ahh, I understand. My apologies for coming here saying we were on similar
wavelength with respects to exposing the worst of the male form. When, clearly we
are not.
I see now, that this sub is designed as a lighthearted, funny place, offering little
analysis of the issues and problems that create the posts you are showcasing. That
is my misunderstanding, particularly because of the way our sidebar was
presented, that I thought you were actually interested in discussing why these
issues exist in society and why subs like ours are gaining more attention.
It also doesn't project and assume with fill in the blank. It let's the screenshots
speak for themselves.
Ok, I get that. My comparison to NiceGuys was incorrectly attributed to the
behavior that was being presented and not the individual posts that were being
roasted.
single mom = used up slut on clock carousel who friendzoned guys and now
wants way more than she offers.
So entitled female then?!
It is basic misogyny and bitter rage.
I guess I just differ in the sense that some members might be misogynistic and
have bitter rage, but I don't really see a lot of that behavior. I do know instances,
where members that are attacking other members are swiftly handled, regardless
of gender. But, in the sense of misogyny, I wouldn't assume that just because
someone posts a comment directed at a post or that makes wild assumptions with
the profile hates women. I think it is important to allow these comments, because
suppressing them does not help anyone either. We created a place where you can
make your opinion known, no matter how brutal and disliked it is without
repercussions. I like that this place exists, where everything is allowed, no filter,
no worrying about be called <social label/shaming tactic>.
Instead it applies it to women in general.
The type of woman that is in the post will be the topic of discussion in the
comments of the post. That is true and I prefer it that way. I don't apply it to all
women, or women in general. I do not make a comment thinking or with the
intention of getting others to think that "this will apply to all women". Some
comments I make do apply to all women, but only in the sense that I am referring
to a biological trait or instinct or characteristic that we have collectively determined
applies to all women.
Thank you for your well written response, it was a breath of fresh air from quite a
few of the other members here. I mistakenly appropriated the methods that we
use to the methods that you use in the sense that we use actual Profiles, while you
use snippets of conversation. It would be impossible to do the level of analysis that
we do using only the few short sentences or even few words that your posts are
mostly featured for. I assumed that would be an understood difference, and that
the merits of each sub, instead, would be discussed, that being "we are both
looking to expose the failures of people with regards to their entitlement and
seeking interaction with the opposite sex". I haven't really been convinced that you
are not doing that, even if you are simply making fun of the OP and not attributing
(because you would be unable to) the OP as what most of those types of men
would do in that situation.
The reason why we post Profiles, and you post [Snippets] is because the
differences in mating strategies between sexes, and I just assumed that would
have been clear or obvious, but I see that I should have made that distinction or
not have used that to describe our sub with that similarity.
It still rings true to me that there would be no way to merge this idea, and that
any debate to the merits of one would be a counter argument to the merits of the
other. That explains why none of my comments are well received.
I was possibly over zealous of defending our sub and ignorant of this sub true
nature when coming here to draft my thoughts to you. It makes sense to me now,
why it would never work to convince you of anything. I will say though, that one
respectable difference between us (subwise) is we would never encourage name
calling or shaming tactics when responding to any of our members or guests, while
this sub seems to allow and actually promote the use of such childish tactics.
Again, thank you for having patience with me. I find your responses and a few
others to be beneficial to my understanding of the world and to broaden my
perspective within it, even though for the most part I was disappointed with the
level of primitive strategy used by other members to maintain their agenda rather
than also grow in their understanding with me.
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[–] KatTheKatt 29 points 10 hours ago
Nah, it proves that you guys are indeed NiceGuys.
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You didn't understand the sidebar. Most your members are posting literal, outofcontext
quotes. I assure you, there is a higher level of meaning that is being lost here. My attempt
to explain that is being downvoted simply because it goes against your narrative. That is
why it is ironic.
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I'm... not sure you understand irony
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