Voltage

Sephiroth Kwon
GRMA
20-05-2009
 OUTLINE
 Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
 Before Power On Voltage and Signal
– Power Supply and Stand By Voltage
– Power button#, RSTCON#, RSMRST#
– Battery Voltage
 After Power On Voltage
– Voltage Distribution
• P5QQ Deluxe
• P5Q Pro Turbo
• M4A79T Deluxe
– Linear & Switch Regulator introduction
• Voltage Solution - Linear &Switch Regulator
• Typical Linear Regulator
• Typical Switch Regulator
– VCORE
• VCORE architecture & circuit
• VCORE Voltage repair Flow
Advanced Configuration
and
Power Interface
 Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
S0: All Power
S3: Standby and Dual
S5: Only Standby
Before Power On
Voltage and Signal
Before Power On-Power Supply and Stand By Voltage

Unplug ATX Power Supply Plug-in ATX Power Supply

Before Power On-Power Supply and Stand By Voltage

3.3V * 11 1 3.3V *
5VSB is a standby voltage that may
-12V 12 2 3.3V * be used to power circuits that require
power input during the powered down
COM
GND 13 3 GND
COM state of the power rails.

PS-ON # 14 4 5V
GND
COM 15 5 COM
GND

COM
GND 16 6 5V
GND
COM 17 7 GND
COM
-5V 18 8 PW-OK
PS-ON#
PS ON# is an active low signal that
turns on all of the main power rails
5V 19 9 5VSB including 3.3V, 5V, -5V, 12V, and -12V
power rails.
5V 20 10 12V

* optional
Before Power On-Power Supply and Stand By Voltage

For LAN Voltage

+1.5VSB
3.3V * 11 1 3.3V *
Linear
-12V
12V 12 2 3 3V *
3.3V
Regulator
COM 13 3 COM
PS-ON 14 4 5V +2 5VSB
+2.5VSB
COM 15 5 COM
COM 16 6 5V Linear
COM 17 7 COM R l t
Regulator South
-5V 18 8 PW-OK Bridge
Linear
5V 19 9 5VSB +3VSB
R l t
Regulator
5V 20 10 12V Super I/O

* optional
Before Power On-Power Supply and Stand By Voltage

+5VSB
PS_ON#

+12V,5V,3V

1. Before you turn on power 5VSB is always high! while you plug in the
power supply which offers the standby voltage to some chipsets that can
boot MB up!
2. PS_ON# must be touched off low to turn MB on !
3 If PS_ON#
3. PS ON# were low,
low every voltages from power supply will operate!
Before Power On-PWRBTN#, RSTCON#, RSMRST#,PS_ON#
Before you boot up the board, you 1. +5VSB
should measure the Power Button#.
#, you must know this signal is
acted by low, initially it is high.
2.
2
+3VSB

South
Bridge Power Button#
3.

Super I/O
+3VSB GND
3
3.
Before Power On-PWRBTN#, RSTCON#, RSMRST#,PS_ON#
RSTCON# is high Initially. 1. +5VSB

While you touch it off,

off it will
reset all of the chipset.
2.
+3VSB

South
Bridge
3.
RSTCON#
Super I/O

+3VSB GND
3.
Before Power On-PWRBTN#, RSTCON#, RSMRST#,PS_ON#

• When 5VSB and 3VSB send to SIO and SB

• SIO will
ill send
d thi
this signal
i l ‘’RSMRST# ’’ tto SB’
SB’s b
boott up circuit
i it
to notice the MB is ready to boot up! If this signal is Lo, you
can’t boot up MB.

• Do you know when RSMRST# is Lo?

• Th answer is
The i unplug
l the
th ATX connector!
t !

+5VSB

South
Bridge +5VSB
RSMRST#
S S # = Hi

+3VSB
Before Power On-PWRBTN#, RSTCON#, RSMRST#,PS_ON#

5V
Super IO( IT8282,
0V 3.3V * 11 1 3.3V *
W83667..)
4. -12V 12 2 3.3V *
PS_ON# COM 13 3 COM
Power Button# PS_ON
PS-ON # 14 4 5V
1
1. Circuit
COM 15 5 COM
2. 3.
IO_PWRBTN#
COM 16 6 5V
SLP_S4#
COM 17 7 COM
SLP_S3#
-5V 18 8 PW-OK
5V 19 9 5VSB
South
Bridge 5V 20 10 12V

* optional
Before Power On-Battery Voltage

• Function of Battery Power are:

– CMOS SRAM
– Real Time Clock
Before Power On-Battery Voltage

First Pin

Before boot up the board, please check the jumper in normal status.
 Before Power On-Battery Voltage

Battery

32.7 KHz

Super
I/O South Bridge

3VSB

RTCRST#
B A
RTCRST#
C CLR
CMOS *Current Leakage measure:
1k h
1kohm Use multi-meter to measure the 1kohm,
the voltage value between 1mV~15mV is
When you plug in power supply, A=B ok, out of this range is NG.
According to Ohm theory: II=U/R
U/R, the
When you unplug power supply, A=C Current leakage should be 1uA~10uA.
Before Power On-Battery Voltage
START

Use Multi-meter to measure

Current Leakage value

YES NO Change Battery, ok

The value is out Check Battery
Measure the C.L.
of range Power is 3V
value is OK.
YES
NO

NO Change diode, ok
Check Diode
Measure the C.L.
RB715 is OK
value is OK
YES

NO Change I/O,
Check Vbatt related ok
Components I/O
Measure the C.L.
value is OK
YES

Change SB

Finished
Before Power On-Battery Voltage
1. Use multi-meter to measure 1k ohm
near the battery circuit, the value
between 1mV~10mV is ok, out Of this
range is NG.

(According to Ohm theory: I=V/R, the

Current leakage should be 1uA~10uA.)
1

2. If the value is NG, check the battery

voltage is 3V. If not, change battery
and measure the leakage current again.
again

2
Before Power On-Battery Voltage

3. If the value is still NG, check the

diode (RB715F) near battery is ok. If
NG please try to change it and measure
NG,
again.
3

4. If the value is still NG, check which

component use Vbatt. Most MB Vbatt
connect to SB, I/O and ASUS ASIC. We
can strip up the Vbatt pin of I/O and
ASIC to confirm which component is .

5. If it’s not I/O or ASIC problem

4 finally please try to change SB.
AFTER POWER ON VOLTAGE
After Power On-Voltage Distribution
P5Q Deluxe
Vcore Batt
1.8V
VTTCPU 3VSB W83667DHG
CPU VTTDDR DDR II
CPU_PLL 3.3V
12V
5VDUAL USB
3VSB
3V Clock PCIEX16
Gen 3V
3.3V SPI
5V
3VSB PCI SLOT 12V FAN
1.1V_NB
+/-12V
1.8VDUAL Eagle lake
1.5V 5VDUAL
3V KB/MS
1 2V
1.2V
88SE6111 1.8VSB
3.3V
1.1VSB
1.2VSB Marvell
1.5V 3.3VA 8056
VTT CPU
VTT_CPU AD2000B 3VSB
3.3V
3V ICH10 12V
3VSB 3.3V 3.3VSB
Batt Q Switch
Q-Switch
PCIEx1
1.8V 3.3V
After Power On-Voltage Distribution

M4A79T DELUXE
After Power On-Linear & Switch Regulator introduction
1. Linear Regulator – Lower Cost and Higher heat.
e.g. LAN voltage, FAN.
2. Switch Regulator – Higher Cost and Lower heat.
e.g. VCORE, Memory voltage.

Switch Regulator Linear Regulator

After Power On-Linear & Switch Regulator introduction

• MOSFET
– N channel, Current high
– If G is hi, the voltage in D should transfer to S.

A B

Hi

– P channel, Current low.

– If G is lo, the voltage in S should transfer to D.

B A

Lo
After Power On-Typical Linear Regulator

Linear Regulator
After Power On-Typical Linear Regulator

LM324 Diagrams Power Amplifier

Operational
Amplifiers

Reference
voltage
After Power On-Typical Linear Regulator

• IN+ = IN-, +1.5VSB REF (12th pin)= +1.5VSB FB (13th pin)

• If 13th pin (Feedback) were lower than 12th pin (Reference), the
14th pin will make VG hi, meanwhile MOSFET is working till IN 4 - =
IN4 +.

1.
Input

3. Output
Hi 2.

5. 4
4.
6.
After Power On-Typical Switch Regulator

S it h Regulator
Switch R l t

Switch Regulator
 After Power On-Typical Switch Regulator

Iout 12 VIN

VCC
t
High side ON
I2 Low side OFF
12Vin
t UGATE
Iout
I2 PHASE

LGATE
t PGND
I3 FB
High side OFF
GND I3 Low side ON

t
After Power On-Typical Switch Regulator

1. Input

4
4.
High side ON
Low side OFF
2. High Gate 6.

Low Gate
5. High side OFF
Low side ON

Controller
3.
VCORE
After Power On-VCORE architecture & circuit

Driver
Driver

Power Controller
After Power On-VCORE architecture & circuit

VID PWM
VCORE VCORE
CPU CONTROLLER DRIVER

VCORE
After Power On-VCORE architecture & circuit

UGATE1
PWM1
LGATE1

UGATE1
PWM2 LGATE1

UGATE1
PWM3
LGATE1
12 VIN
PWM4 UGATE1
LGATE1 VCC

High side ON
I2 Low side OFF

Iout
PWM UGATE
PHASE
Controller Driver

LGATE
FB PGND
High side OFF
GND I3 Low side ON
After Power On-VCORE architecture & circuit

PWM

VCORE Control IC—ADP3180

VID
After Power On-VCORE architecture & circuit

Inside short
circuit
1.2V 1.

We should measure the

Controller EN pin 1.2V in
2. 11th at first time, if VCORE
no work!
12V

3.
1.2V
After Power On-VCORE architecture & circuit

+5V
0 (Low L l) ：0V
(L Level)
1 (High Level) ：5V 1K

10K

VID4

VID3
Vcore
VID2
Switching
CPU Regulator
VID1

VID0
 After Power On-VCORE architecture & circuit

ADP3180 Output Voltage V.S. VID code

After Power On-VCORE Voltage repair Flow Chart 1
START 1.Impedance in 12V is <100

2.Impedance in VCORE is <50

‧12V Impedance 3.Impedance from 12V to VCORE is <100

NO
‧Vcore Impedance
‧12V to Vcore Impedance
No short?

Yes
Boot up

Check Other Circuit fail:

Check Vcore OK? NO whether Yes Example: PWM IC fail,
All wave OK? boot after RC small component or
repairing? soldering fail.
Yes
NO
END
Check
Power
Supply work
OK?
Yes
NO
Check PWM Other Circuit fail:
IC EN PIN Example:
p Socket fail
1.25V OK? NO 1.25VTT_CPU fail
 After Power On-VCORE Voltage repair Flow Chart 12

Turn off Power Supply

Remove Power Supply cable

Check NO Remove all abnormal

MOS DGS
is OK?
MOS which DGS is NG.

Yes

Check
Driver NO
Impedance is Remove Driver
OK?

Yes

+ Point: Red Line PIN1(BST) PIN8(DRVH) PIN4(VCC) PIN5(DRVL) PIN2(DRVL) PIN3(DRVL)

- Point: Black Line ( )

PIN8(DRVH) PIN7(SW)
( ) PIN5(DRVL)
( ) PIN6(PGND)
( ) PIN6(PGND)
( ) PIN6(PGND)
( )

Impedance >1M 8.2K(10%) > 300K 8.2K(10%) > 100K > 50K
After Power On-VCORE Voltage repair Flow Chart 12

Measure the Pad Other Circuit fail:

NO Example: PWM IC fail,
which MOS &
Driver just been RC small component or
removed is OK? soldering fail.

Yes
Measure MOS component
which was just removed.
Then record the defect MOS
& Driver.

Mount good MOS and

Driver

Measure MOS & NO

Driver Impedance
Other root cause like
are OK. soldering short.

Y
Yes

‧12V Impedance
‧Vcore Impedance NO Other rootcause like Socket
‧12V
12V to VVcore iimpedance
d short or Soldering short.
are all OK.
After Power On-VCORE Problem Debug Procedure (1)

• If no Output
p
– Check if both 5V and 12V are OK
– Check if POWER MOSFET (both UGATE/ LGATE) are
nott short
h t
– Check all VIDs of Power Regulator are not high
– Check EN/FS of Power Regulator is not zero Volt
After Power On-VCORE Problem Debug Procedure (2)

• If the output
p voltage
g wrong
g
– Check if VIDs of Power Regulator are wrong setting
– Check if the feedback resistor divider is wrong
– Check if UGATE and LGATE of Power Regulator with
wrong voltage level
– Check if POWER MOSFET failure
Thank You!