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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/jpgxj8/star-wars-despecialized-edition-removes-alterations-to-the-original-trilogy
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http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2017/09/why-hasnt-disney-released-the-original-unaltered-star-wars-films/
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http://collider.com/blade-runner-2049-is-deckard-a-replicant/#images
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https://www.polygon.com/2018/9/26/17906676/nagini-fantastic-beasts-jk-rowling-harry-potter-dumbledore-george-lucas
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Reetae says that the WGA-strike made the 4th season 14 episodes long. When the showrunners negotiated an
end deal they were supposed to have 16 episodes per season.5 Like I said in part 3, they were supposed to cram
eight planned hours into five. So we presumably lost the stories about Libby, flashbacks to one/more of the
freighter-people and a revisit of the four-toed statue. The five hours were then turned into six, so they managed
to squeeze out an additional hour into the finale. Reetae says that the WGA-strike helped the writers to hurry it
up and that is why he thinks the fourth season is great. But that only applied to the remaining five/six episodes.
The first eight were written before the strike. And the pacing would be faster anyway, which is something they
were thriving about after they had negotiated the deal many months before the strike happened. The faster
pacing of the fourth season was primarily due to the new deal with ABC, not the strike.
Then he says that the additional three hours that were lost in the fourth season was supposed to go to something
pointless and makes a joke about the characters simply meeting a clown in the jungle. If Reetae had done any
research, he would’ve known what they were cutting out of the fourth season.
He says that the 4th season has its share of unanswered mysteries and presents them.
“What’s up with this random woman that suddenly appears?”
Picture 4.1
She (Harper) is not a random woman. In the very same episode we learn that this is the therapist in The Others’
community. The Others were very good at sneaking around and The Whispers were also following them in
many occasions. It’s not really more mysterious than that. On the March 10th 2008 podcast Darlton said that
she’s still alive and with The Others6. On the April 25th 2008 podcast Darlton also said that it really was Harper
in the jungle.7
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https://ew.com/article/2007/05/09/end-lost-two-execs-give-us-scoop/
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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Official_Lost_Podcast_transcript/March_10,_2008
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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Official_Lost_Podcast/April_25,_2008
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However, you are more than free to speculate it beyond that if you want to. I have previously backed up the
answers in the show with clarifications from the podcasts, interviews or video panels. However there is also the
concept of “Death of the author”. If you believe that the author’s voice shouldn’t be heard and that you should
be able to interpret things in the show without their input, then be my guest. In this situation I’ve always liked
the theory that Harper died and it was The Man in Black that Juliet encountered in the jungle instead. If Juliet
had done as MIB-Harper told her and stopped Daniel and Charlotte, the gas would g et released. Most people on
DarkUFO also theorized that it was MIB before we learned about it in the podcast.8 If it wasn’t MIB, then she
could’ve been one of the Whisperers and that she could easily appear in front of Ben as a Whisperer, since he is
locked down in the basement. However, if we take Damon and Carlton’s word for it, then the Harper character
is much harder to solve. It would mean that she overheard Daniel and Charlotte going to The Tempest. That
she knows that they have taken Ben to the basement (where he would possibly be safe from the poisonous gas?)
and she is lying about her taking instructions from Ben. She has every right of being mad at Juliet for ruining her
marriage with Goodwin. I don’t think it was a wise decision by Darlton to confirm that she was alive and
present when she appeared to Juliet in this episode and never appeared in an episode again. There are certain
things it helped a lot with the writers’ confirmation, but think the ambiguity would be a better option in this
situation.
“Who is the R.G. on Naomi’s bracelet?”
The R.G. isn’t revealed. The reason the bracelet is in the episode is to show that Naomi had a relationship with
someone else and this is an object Sayid is reminded of in his flashforward. It says “N, I’ll always be with you.
R.G”. It creates an emotional moment for Sayid when he sees Elsa wearing one. It was Sayid who questioned
Naomi and then was in charge of the plan with the satellite phone and the radio tower. Now he’s in Berlin and
working for Benjamin Linus. This is similar to Sayid being reminded of the cat in his Paris when he encountered
Mikhail’s cat. What is the mystery in the R.G.? That someone had a relationship with Naomi?
The Rules
What’s up with these “Rules”?
This is a very big subject on the show and I decided to give its own title. They are not introduced in this episode,
but in what many call the weakest of the show: Stranger in a Strange Land.
Juliet was sentenced to death by the Rules of the Others because she killed one of their own: Danny
Pickett. In other words: A n "Other" is not allowed to kill another "Other". These rules are ancient. We learn later
on that they were set up by Mother when she says that the brothers can’t harm each other. But they are
breakable, unlike The Island’s physical laws of nature. (The Island won't let you die until you have done
something). They aren’t the same rules, but throughout the years it seems like The Others adopted them. In the
same vein that Law of war have changed throughout history, the rules of The Others have also changed. Of
course Ben and Widmore can, technically, kill each other, but maybe they have so much belief in The Rules
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https://lostmysteries.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-did-harper-disappear-so-fast.html
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that they t hink t hey can't or that they will be punished by The Island. Ben had a lifelong faith in The Island and
yet it made him sick in 2004. T he Lost Encyclopedia mentions their rule system as a gentleman’s agreement,
which is also something that Lost-fans guessed at when the episode aired.9
Another layer to the rules comes from how powerful Widmore and Ben are. Widmore has the ability to fake a
plane crash. Ben has vast resources with a big off-island network of Others. Their rules also remind me of the
Rules of Engagement, and in this case I would point out the Geneva Conventions. It seeks out to protect people
not part of the armed conflict. Especially the fourth treaty that was about the humanitarian protection of
civilians.
“When the Second World War broke out, civilians were not provided with effective protection
under any convention or treaty. The Regulations annexed to the Fourth Hague Convention of
1907 certainly contained some clauses which applied to civilians (Articles 42 to 56), but their
protection was only considered in connection with the occupation of a territory by an enemy army.
The Regulations confined themselves to a statement of the principle that the Occupying Power
must maintain law and order, and to a few elementary rules enjoining respect for family rights,
for the lives of persons and for private property; there was also a clause prohibiting collective
punishments. If these rules had been applied in good faith, they would, it is true, have represented
a real safeguard. But they had been drawn up at a time when hostilities were confined to the area
close to the front. What significance could they have under conditions of "total" warfare, which
exposed the civilian population of whole countries to the same dangers as the armed forces?” ( The
Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, Volume IV, p. 3)
Although Alex is part of The Others, Penelope isn’t. However, Ben and Widmore had their own rule
system in regards to that. Because Ben doesn’t say that Widmore broke the rules, but changed them.
“I'm here, Charles, to tell you that I'm going to kill your daughter. Penelope, is it? And once she's
gone... once she's dead... then you'll understand how I feel. And you'll wish you hadn't changed the
rules.” Ben is fueled with revenge and consider Penelope fair play. The rules have changed. Family and
innocent civilians are not protected by their own system of rules. At least not anymore. This episode is
also one that has a game scene in the beginning. The characters are playing Risk, a strategic game where
the goal is to occupy every territory of the world, in an episode where Ben did the mistake of calling
Alex “a pawn” to Keamy. One that means nothing to him.
Although The Others might’ve been very good at keeping the rules similar to the Rules of Engagement. Even
giving trials when someone broke them, we still have situations where they broke the rules. Widmore killed his
friend in 1954. Mikhail kills Klugh (although on her instructions), Greta and Bonnie. Maybe this act by
Widmore caused them to start having trials for this? Mikhail wouldn’t have much time for a trial since he was
presumed dead after Klugh was shot and after he returned he was almost sent out on a mission again. Which
means that “Other can’t kill an Other” isn’t derived from a force by The Island that prohibits it. However, when
Widmore killed his friend in 1954 and Locke hesitated to shoot him, that could be The Island at play. Locke
hesitated and said he was “one of his people”. But The Island would have prevented his death anyway. If they
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had stopped Widmore and put the rifle to his head, the gun would probably jam. This is however a rule of time
travel.
But what about indirectly? Juliet found a loophole. She gave Jack instructions to kill Ben through the operation.
Can an "Other" kill another "Other" indirectly (through another person that is not one of them)? That sets up a
new layer to the rules. Ben blames Charles Widmore for Alex' death even though Keamy killed her. Does
Widmore consider it as a loophole in The Rules, since Keamy isn’t an Other? But since Alex is still one of
Others and a non-combatant (an innocent civilian like in the Geneva convention), it would still be a violation of
The Rules.
“Why does the cabin move throughout the forest?”
I mentioned in part 3 that the concept around the cabin was changed. They had to change the plans for the
cabin because the network didn’t like the idea that was written and filmed. The cabin isn’t the only thing that
moves and disappear. Later this season we see that The Island does this and it seems to have a way of
cloaking/hiding itself (unless you build up the electromagnetism in The Swan, so that Penny’s listening post
could pick up that signal). It can even hide itself from the world and it seems to do the same thing with other
places on The Island. Jack commented on how they've never encountered the lighthouse. Or The Man in Black
saying that: "I've spent 30 years searching for that place you brought me as a child--that...waterfall with that
beautiful light. I've walked this island from end to end, not once coming close to finding it", but when he is
along with The Protector (Jack) he can see it. He says in T he End: "we're here". Maybe The Island plays tricks
this way, because people aren't "ready" or have to "talk to The Island" first before they can accomplish
something. The reason why I talk a lot about The Island is that the cabin seems to have the same abilities. It can
"present itself" at certain times for certain people when they are ready. In part 3 I addressed that the cabin works
in many ways as a symbol for The Island. Almost like an omen. The next time we will see the cabin, we will learn
that The Island can move. Just like the cabin. Some things can be introduced to a story to tell a concept in a
different way. In the next season we have the compass (which is an impossible object) but there to illustrate a
theme.
Picture 4.2
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The cabin was a very vague concept on the show and it wasn’t developed more after the 4th season. It certainly
was one of the most Twin Peaks-ian elements of the show and it has certainly been a headscratcher.
“Who is Ben referring to when he says a different leader of the Others ordered the Purge?”
We knew that the leader of the Others when Danielle Rousseau got to The Island was Charles Widmore, as
evident by the flashbacks in Dead is Dead. Eloise Hawking had already left The Island years ago to raise her son
Daniel. Widmore was also shown as extremely hostile towards the DHARMA Initiative. Whether or not the
orders officially came from Jacob (through Richard) we don’t know, but the leader of The Others at the time
was Charles Widmore.
“Why was Desmond Faraday’s constant?”
Because Faraday knew he would be with him in the future (2004) and ask him to go back to Oxford. This is
answered in the very same episode. D aniel Faraday listed Desmond as his constant for the same reason Desmond
selected Penny as his. Daniel knew Desmond both in the past (1996 in Oxford) and in the present (2004 on the
island). Daniel’s inscription in his journal wasn’t necessarily to make viewers wonder why Daniel selected
Desmond. It was to show that Daniel had written this in his journal in 1996 (after he first met Desmond) but
didn’t recall writing it because of his memory issues.
Why did Charles Widmore’s agent want Locke to go on a walkabout before Locke had ever been to
The Island? (Yeah yeah - Locke had technically been there through time travel. But still -- the
Widmore from 1954 had no idea that Locke came to the Island via a trip from Australia OR that
he had been crippled. So setting him up a walkabout makes no sense).
The sentence in the parenthesis was shown on screen for a split second. I think he almost answers it there. The
events in 1954 had profound meaning for The Others. They did as Daniel told them and carefully placed the
bomb under the ground. Richard Alpert also went to Tustin, California when John was born. Why wouldn’t
they follow Locke’s life after he told them that Jacob sent him and vanished right in front of them? Widmore
would have known that John became a paraplegic in 2001. He still wasn’t bald, like he and Richard remembered
him, and they probably deduced that The Island would be the factor that made him walk again. Even Richard
could’ve gotten this info from Jacob, since Jacob was on that same site. So, in short, Widmore was trying to get
John Locke to the island in order to replace Ben as the leader of the Others. The interesting thing about this is
that Richard gave up on Locke and focused on Ben instead. In 1974 he tried to get a teenage Locke to the Island
(this was during the spring). He didn’t go. The very same year Richard meets Ben, who seems to be special.
Three years later Jack would convince Richard to not give up. In the early 90’s Widmore was banished, but like
he said: “I'm deeply invested in the future of the Island, John. So, yes, I've been watching them.” He could try to
set him on a Walkabout, or a trip, or something else. Whatever it would be, other forces (destiny) would make
sure that John Locke would wind up on The Island.
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Abaddon was subject to a lot of theories. One that I enjoyed a lot was the theory that Walt was Abaddon. I used
these points to convince myself of this theory.
1) The name Abaddon. Abaddon was described in Revelations as the angel of the abyss, and Walt was very
connected to death on the show. P rotestant commentator Matthew Henry (1708) believed Abaddon to be the
Antichrist, whereas the Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary (1871) and Henry H. Halley (1922) identified
the angel as Satan. Latter-Day Saints believe that the use of “Abaddon” in Revelation 9 refers to the devil.10
2) Walt changed his identity in the future. He was known as Keith Johnson in 2004-2010.
3) He has a "sense" of future events. Just like Abaddon guides people where they need to be.
4) He visits Hugo at Santa Rosa, just like Walt did. I enjoyed how they framed the shot of Abaddon with the
blackboard in the background. It shows an island, a raft and a shark. (In season 1 Walt was concerned that a
shark would attack them on the raft). In this scene with Abaddon, all the objects are crowning around his head,
as if they all came from his imagination (picture 4.3).
Picture 4.3
5) He calls Locke for Mr. Locke, like Walt did.
6) How he gave Locke and Walt some privacy during the meeting in The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham.
7) Abaddon first meets John Locke in C abin Fever after he wheels him around a poster that says: “Get back in
the game”. He asks Locke:
Abaddon: “Let me ask you something. Do you believe in miracles?”
Locke: “No. I don't believe in miracles.”
Abaddon: “You should. I had one happen to me.”
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http://angelicpedia.com/christianity/fallen-angels/abaddon/
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What is the first thing Locke tells Walt on the island (after the Backgammon-discussion)? He tells him a secret.
Walt later tells Michael that Locke told him a miracle happened here. What is the miracle that happened to
Abaddon? That’s also up to your interpretation. I'm coming back to mine.
8) Walt was on his own walkabout when he was on The Island and was taught how to only use his "mind's eye".
After Locke taught him that, he told Michael that “As long as we're here, I think Walt should be allowed to
realize his potential”.
Abaddon: “Is that what you are, Mr. Locke? I went on my walkabout convinced I was one thing, but I came
back another. I found out what I was made of, who I was.”
He knew of himself, his superpowers and learned how to actually use them. He had trouble with that his first
time on The Island, but Hurley recruited him to help his father.
Locke: “And here you are, an orderly”.
Abaddon: “Oh, I'm a lot more than just an orderly, John”.
I am Walt.
Abaddon also says that the next time they meet each other, John will owe him one favour. Would it be the dog
whistle to bring back Vincent? Or teaching him to reach his potential? We can’t ignore the most obvious part.
Matthew Abaddon is much older. Something must’ve happened that caused Walt to become stuck in the past
and realized that he can’t go back. Whatever happened happened.
Locke: “She loved me. If I had just... [sighs] we could've been together”.
Abaddon: “Maybe you could have. That wouldn't change anything. She'd still be gone”.
Locke: “Would she?”
Abaddon: “Helen is where she's supposed to be. As sad as it is, her path led here. And your path, no
matter what you did or what you do, your path leads back to the Island”.
Abaddon knows his path leads back to The Island, because he was recruited by Ben and Hugo, who probably
told them everything that happened. Isn't it tragic? Ben kidnaps Walt. Walt gets recruited back by Ben, who is
sorry about the whole thing. Ben kills adult Walt.
Locke: “You say that like it's all det--inevitable”.
Abaddon: “Mr. Widmore told me Richard Alpert said that you were going to die. So you tell me,
John. Is that inevitable, or is it a choice?”
Some of this is very far-fetched, but the vague nature of some of Lost’s elements fueled the imaginations of its
audience. The audience could use screenshots, literary references, quotes and other elements to tie up their
“head-canon” story. In my opinion that has a much more everlasting power than a definitive answer, which is
what Denis Villeneuve respected when he directed Blade Runner 2049.
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“How did Locke drew a picture of the Smoke monster as a kid, when he had not only been to The
Island, but was deemed by Richard that he was not special”.
Picture 4.4
He drew the picture using black crayons. And I’ll answer the last part first. Richard didn’t think Locke was
special at that point in time, but Jack told him otherwise much later. Over time Richard really did turn around:
“'Cause when word got back here that there was a man with a broken spine on the plane, who
could suddenly walk again...well, people here began to get very excited because that...that could
only happen to someone who was extremely special.”
Richard has seen The Island heal for over 130 years. The quote implies that it is a first time The Island has cured
a paraplegic. And The Island had to cure him, because he was walking in The Island’s past. Ben confirms this to
Locke in the afterlife when he confesses to him that John Locke really was special.
Throughout Locke’s life there weren’t anything special about him. That was part of his character from the
moment he was created. A sad, pathetic office-drone. The Man in Black didn’t think he was special either.
However there was a glimpse of The Island reaching out to him when he was little. In the same vein that Walt
knew things before they happened when he was a kid, Locke had something similar.
What disturbs me even more is that not only did Locke draw it, but that it was hanging on the wall.
This is pure speculation, but he might’ve gotten angry when his foster mother took it as meaningless scribble
and made sure that it was hanging on the wall.
“Oh why was Farraday [sic] involuntarily crying when he saw a FAKE report that the Oceanic 815
passengers were all dead”
Why does Reetae capitalize the word fake? Daniel (and the rest of the world) didn’t know it was fake. We knew
later in season 4 and 5 that Daniel continued with the time experiments without using a protection for his head.
His mind became scrambled. With Theresa (the one he experimented on) she wasn’t exactly aware of where and
when she was. Daniel was not that severe. He told Widmore that: “I don't know why it's bothering me so
much. It's just so sad. They're dead” and the dialogue hints that it’s the dead people that makes him cry, not the
disaster. In the future he will get to know several of the passengers of Flight 815. He spent three years with some
of them in the past (before the events in this one), but for him it was the future.
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Reetae asks why Jacob didn’t intervene in the mortal peril The Island was in. He was the Protector of The
Island, yet Keamy came in there with RPG rockets and a plan to “torch The Island”. Why didn’t he do
anything, Reetae asks. Why didn’t he prevent the innocent bystanders getting mowed down by the mercenaries?
This is actually a very good question and one we are supposed to be asking. Why didn’t God intervene during
the Holocaust? If he’s so powerful why didn’t he prevent the innocent bystanders getting mowed down by the
nazis?
We are introduced to Mark Pellegrino (the actor that plays Jacob) in the season 5-finale. In A b Aeterno
we have a scene between Ricardo and Jacob about this exact problem. This will be highlighted in future parts in
this document, but we learn that Jacob and the Man in Black aren’t the absolute good and evil. Jacob wanted
Richard to be his intermediary and intervene in these cases. And The Others did. They enlist Kate and Sayid to
help them stop and kill the mercenaries in the season 4-finale. And then Ben moved the Island so that Widmore
couldn’t find it again.
“We never find out what the goal of the freighter assault was? (...) But if the mercenaries were
successful in torching the island, how would it be his (Widmore’s) again? What was the point of all
this?”
No, we learn about the goal. Miles says in Confirmed Dead that they are there to locate Benjamin Linus and
take him off. Widmore tells Locke that Ben once fooled him to leave The Island. Widmore told Ben at the end
of T he Shape of Things to Come t hat The Island is his. “It always was”. Reetae brings up Keamy’s line about
“torch The Island”, but should add in the line that comes after that.
Keamy: “'Cause he's a very smart man, and if Linus knows that we're gonna torch the Island,
there's only one place that he can go.”
Gault: “What do you mean, "torch the Island"? That was not the agreement. I agreed to ferry you
here for an extraction mission.”
Keamy is obviously acting out of his element here. He even commands his superior on the freighter. He and his
team was attacked by the Smoke Monster. He takes this a step further. Seeing how extremely large this island is,
I doubt that they even had the equipment and time to burn it all. It works much better dramatically if Keamy
seems threatening towards everyone on The Island instead of just Ben. Reetae also compliments Keamy on this.
He’s certainly a threatening figure.
It is also my theory that this isn’t the first time he tried to find it. In season 2 we learn about Henry Gale and his
balloon trip around the world. It was sponsored by Widmore labs, one of Charles Widmore’s companies in the
Widmore Corporation (as seen in picture 4.5). In the August 2nd 2007 podcast Damon Lindelof said that Ben
and Henry Gale “had words”.11 This makes sense, since Ben knew about the name Jennifer, but didn’t think of
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http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Official_Lost_Podcast_transcript/August_2,_2007
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digging out Henry’s wallet where the 20 dollar bill was (that exposed Ben’s lie about Henry being dead on
arrival). We can also deduce the date when he arrived if Gale didn't allow his license to expire and that
Minnesota has a four-year license renewal period (meaning the balloon crashed in 2003). The $20 bill that Gale
had on him was issued on October 9, 2003, according to the serial number on the bill. My personal theory is
that this was one of Widmore’s attempts to find The Island. One year later he took more drastic measures with a
group of mercenaries.
Picture 4.5
“Why does Widmore want everyone killed? What was the masterstroke? This is one of those
instances where a cliched villainous monologue would be helpful, because, seriously, what was his
plan here?”
I already covered part of this. Widmore cares about “his people”. The man even ordered Ben and Ethan to
exterminate Danielle Rousseau, even suggesting to Ben that the child should be killed. He has no problems
killing people that stand in his way of achieving what he wants. He dug up 324 corpses, dressed them up and
put them in this plane that he chopped into three pieces. Then he made sure that it ended up on the bottom of
the Sunda trench, a pit deep enough that made sure no rescue party would be able to identify the bodies or pick
up the wreckage. He doesn’t want anyone else to find The Island. Of course he would have a motivation to kill
the 815 survivors because if they got off The Island, he would risk them telling the public the truth.
Reetae compliments the show for giving the villain-role to Keamy, who is pure evil. I agree on this. He is
working for Widmore, but since Widmore is back in England, it would serve much better if he had a
representative on The Island.
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Reetae says that the Others have a rebirth at the end of this season and that they are there for a grand purpose.
This is also true, but the rebirth comes from change in leadership. This time they step in, because like I
mentioned earlier, Richard’s role is to step in.
Reetae brings up the pregnancy issues again that he feels like The Others forgot. That’s not really true, because
it is still part of Juliet’s character arc. This is what she was brought to the Island for. We develop more with the
relationship she has with Sun and her pregnancy both at the end of the third season and in this season as well. It
comes back in season 5 with Amy’s pregnancy. Reetae brings up a scene in E ggtown where Kate asks if it would
be the worst thing in the world if she got pregnant. Reeta mocks the dialogue here, because it seems like they
don’t care about the pregnancy problem anymore. Yes, Kate will die if she stay on The Island. She was going to
leave The Island anyway. That has been one of the trademarks of Kate all the way since season 1 when she didn’t
want to settle at the caves or tried to take Sawyer’s spot on the raft. Like I’ve mentioned in the last part. If
Sawyer got her pregnant, she would be able to give birth outside The Island just like Sun.
“Suddenly The Island is just no longer an island. It now has a barrier or a force field or something
that prevents people from entering it”
This isn’t something sudden. We knew that it wasn’t just an island already from the pilot with the supernatural
being that is The Monster. The barrier around it was something we learned in the season 2-finale, when
Desmond told us that he was heading for a straight line to Fiji, but never made it outside the barrier. This was
also foreshadowed in season 1. A very popular theory in season 1 involved The Island being in some sort of
dome or force field12, after the camera showed us this page (picture 4.6) from the Spanish Comic Book.
Picture 4.6
In season 4 Daniel mentions that on The Island the light doesn’t scatter quite right. Just like if you lived inside a
bottle, the light would not go in a straight line through the glass. In this moment Daniel have probably deduced
that The Island is inside a dome.
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http://thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=3940&page=2
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Picture 4.7
Reetae wonders why there is a discrepancy, since Daniel Faraday is adamant on it being 305 and no other.
The show seems to hint that there could be different bearing at different times, because when they
time-travelled back in time, Juliet says that they should leave The Island with the Zodiac raft. Daniel says that:
“For us to leave, I need to calculate a new bearing”, which means that it wasn’t the only bearing to get of The
Island safely. There’s a lot of time that has passed since Michael left. If we use the Lostpedia timeline he left on
November 27th and the freighter-people arrived there on December 21st. We also know that The Island is
moving all the time. The characters had a specific window of time to fly over the Pacific ocean if they were to
arrive on The Island in 316. The bearing was 305 from The Beginning of the End to There’s No Place Like Home,
a span of only nine days. In 2007 Widmore came to The Island and passed the beach camp before heading to
Hydra island (going East). People have arrived to The Island at different bearings as well, and in season 5 we
learn that there are windows that open for where The Island is currently located. Guam is not north of Los
Angeles at all, yet they still came in. For all we know, the Island’s moves could rotate the whole place. In January
1991 the bearing could be 49 degrees and then 77 the next month.
However, since this is a good place to put it, the show had a lot of discrepancies. Especially in terms of the
geography of The Island. It certainly felt more smaller in season 1 than in season 2, but that is also
understandable. It was expanded with more mythology. Hydra island became a much more important place
after the mini-season in season 3. In the writers room they had a timeline of all the crucial events of the show as
well as room on the wall for the character that were either alive, dead or “undead”. They had room for all the
episode titles of the season and a big whiteboard that broke the current episode into six acts. One thing I wish
they would have was a gigantic map of The Island. In season 1 they did provide us a perfectly good template for
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it. Rousseau’s map has all the mountain ranges. It has the crater, some references to future events: radio
transmitter, “the ruins of unknown origin” that we saw in T he Brig and even a couple of smaller islands of the
coast. The maps we’ve gotten after has given us a lot of errors and discrepancies between each other. Especially
the one we saw in Through the Looking Glass.13 Popular cartographers amongst the Lost-fandom were Jonah
Adkins14, Yung2315, TheLostMap16, LostySmurf17 and the Tumblr-user Theislandmap18 used Rousseau’s map
as the default and then tried to work around everything else. In the end, the official map was Rousseau’s since it
was also the one they used when they distributed the Lost Complete Collection. The change that was made was
(obviously) to make one of the smaller islets on the east coast much larger, since Hydra island changed in size
and form throughout L ost.
The majority of the discrepancies came in the dialogue in the show. The Barracks was always north
from the beach camp, as we learned when they were trekking at the compass bearing from Eko’s stick. Or when
Kate gave directions to Sun about going Northwest for a day and a half. But the barracks were “due south” in
Confirmed Dead. Also one of the biggest inconsistencies are the distances between the submarine dock and the
barracks, which TheLostmap covered on his blog:19
“A. The view of the barracks in episode 03x01 “The tale of Two Cities”. This view clearly
shows the barracks to be landlocked.
B. The cabling map Sayid uncovered in episode 03x12 “Par Avion”. The cabling map, as
well as the map supplied in the Dharma Initiative Initiation Kit (Blu Ray extra), shows that the
barracks are completely surrounded by sonic barriers, placed approx. 20 ft apart. These maps do
not show the dock within the sonic barrier.
C. The view of the submarine leaving dock in episode 05x15 “Follow the Leader”. This
view clearly shows the submarine leaving the dock and traveling into the open ocean. Therefore
the dock must be located on the coast.
D. There is a small boathouse seen in episode 04x04, “Eggtown”, we believe this be outside
of the sonic barrier but fairly close to the barracks. We believe the boathouse lies on a small lake
and may have a small dock, but this boat house/dock is not the same as the submarine dock. The
position of the boathouse has little to do with the distance between the barracks and the submarine
dock.”
But the distances between the submarine dock and the barracks have varied throughout the show. I must
compliment the show about a lot of consistency as well. I mentioned in the last part about the areas
surrounding the beach camp being very consistent in regards of the crater. The tailies were hiking the beaches
from the East side, while Michael was heading north towards The Others in T he Hunting Party. The raft was
also heading north, since they had The Island on their right hand side. They were heading “North by
Northeast”, as mentioned by Michael in E xodus, and they bumped into The Others at sea. It would be
13
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ben's_maps
14
https://ew.com/article/2010/06/16/lost-map/
15
http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29143
16
http://thelostmap.blogspot.com/
17
http://lostmap.blogspot.com/
18
http://theislandmap.tumblr.com/
19
http://thelostmap-referenceitems.blogspot.com/
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impossible to be 100% correct, since The Island is fictitious and the landmarks would never weave together. A
filming location on the North shore of Oahu might be intercut by a filming location on the West coast, that has
a different mountain range and nearby jungle. The mountain range at The Barracks are the same as the
mid-section crash site or the background at Ben’s breakfast with Kate on Hydra Island, because they are all shot
at Mokuleia, but they are not at the same place on The Island.
All in all. The discrepancy with the bearing was answered by Daniel Faraday in The Lie, when he said that he
had to calculate a new bearing since they were in a different time, but I can’t defend the fact that the show had
discrepancies.
Time dilation difference
Picture 4.8
Reetae asks why there is a time dilation on The Island, but they still have the ability to talk to each other on
satellite phones. Damon Lindelof addressed this in P opular Mechanics:
“According to the rules of our show, a communication between sat phones is not affected by temporal distortion, but
if you were to send a radio broadcast and/or a telegraph message, it would be affected by temporal distortion.”20
You can accept this answer or just chalk it up as a side effect of the weird dome around The Island. If you enter
it at the wrong bearing you might get on the other side at a different time. That happened to the body of Doc
Ray that entered the dome at a time that shifted him two days prior to his death. Interestingly enough, the idea
of a time dilation was there much earlier. They hinted at it at the 2006 Comic-Con.
Carlton Cuse: And that was sort of… that, that was a signpost that the history of the Island may
be a lot of um… more extensive than we’ve already dealt with on the show… so I think, by the time
the show is done, we’ll have covered a lot of time. And um… in terms of how many days on the
Island specifically, I dunno? 117?
Damon Lindelof: It’s interesting that you should ask about time because… you know… you’re
making a basic assumption that they’ve been there, y’know, as long as they think they’ve been
20
https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/tv/a2823/4260693/
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there. [Crowd murmurs, someone says “Oh, no.”] I would say by the end of Season 3… that very
different idea…
Carlton Cuse: Stop right there, Damon, stop right there.
There is a possibility they wanted to have an even bigger time dilation, but the network worked against it. This
wouldn’t be the first time, since they were very afraid to put anything too sci-fi at this stage.
“The climax should’ve been them getting off The Island. That’s what every episode up until now
have been built up to. That’s what brought all of these characters in the first place”
That’s his opinion, but the show was never about that.
“This show is about people who are metaphorically lost in their lives, who get on an airplane, and
crash on an island, and become physically lost on the planet Earth. And once they are able to
metaphorically find themselves in their lives again, they will be able to physically find themselves
in the world again. When you look at the entire show, that's what it will look like. That's what
it's always been about." - Damon Lindelof, I GN, January 16, 2007
Reetae tells a fan-fiction ending on how he would’ve ended the show. In summary, he wanted it to re-write the
season finale of season 4 that it would end on that season. They get rescued by Penny, Hurley uses his money to
ferry boats to The Island (that he for some reason knows where is in this fan-fic ending) and rescues the rest.
Some stay on The Island. Jack and Locke have a heart-to-heart conversation after Daniel Faraday says that the
time dilation between the real-world and The Island is getting worse, so this would be the final time they see this
place. Jack wonders if it was all worth it and it ends with Ben visiting Widmore before it cuts to black
(insinuating that he kills him there). This is also his opinion, but this is an ending rooted in a show that was just
about survival on a deserted island. It would’ve been a very predictable show. It’s a very Cast Away or G illigan’s
Island-ending. That is what the show was in the Nowhere-script, which ABC despised and commissioned to J.J.
Abrams to turn it around. He and Damon Lindelof blew them away and ABC greenlit the project from the
outline (Marxuach, 2015, p. 3). The P ilot-script afterwards changed that so the show was something more
unique. This is what made the show successful. The Pilot d oes have Sayid and Jack in focus, with their
determination to find a way to contact any form for rescue. But Part 1 and Part 2 ends with the following
questions that opens this universe to more than finding coconuts and shelter:
- “Guys? How does something like that happen?”
- “Guys. Where are we?”
It doesn’t end with a hopeful tune, that the French woman got rescued. It ends with “It killed them all”
and includes hidden clues about Brennan and The Black Rock as well. Even our main character Jack
said in the first episode after the Pilot that this island was their chance to start all over. That three days
ago they all died. Why would the show throw out all those themes with a simple ending that they
eventually found rescue? I find it very odd that Reetae doesn’t even mention the monster in this
fan-fiction or the reason why all these characters were connected and brought to this place. This was
established in the Pilot. “The show in some sense is about how we are all intertwined in our lives”
(Darlton, Lost: The Answers). And something else that was established in the first season was that The
Island was the one that put them through the test. The obstacles they had to go through for their
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character development. Reetae ignores everything supernatural about the show and just focuses on the
survival and the characters would be whole again just by leaving it. It wasn’t what the writers wanted.
When talking about the phases of the show it was supposed to be that the final phase (after some
characters have left) would be the final phase. The third and final phase would be the people who left
the island realizing it's a mistake and want to go back to help the ones that they left behind and save The
Island.21 In the end going back to what Locke told Jack, that this place is special. The conversation in
What They Died For summarizes the show (and what it was supposed to be) in many ways:
Jacob: “You call him "The Monster." But I'm responsible for what happened to him. I made him
that way. And ever since then he's been trying to kill me. It was only a matter of time before he
figured out how, and when he did, someone would have to replace me. And that's why I brought
you all here”.
Sawyer: “Tell me something, Jacob. Why do I gotta be punished for your mistake? What made
you think you could mess with my life? I was doin' just fine til you dragged my ass to this damn
rock”.
Jacob: “No, you weren't. None of you were. I didn't pluck any of you out of a happy existence. You
were all flawed. I chose you because you were like me. You were all alone. You were all looking for
something that you couldn't find out there. I chose you because you needed this place as much as it
needed you”.
Another thing about Reetae’s fan-fic-ending is that he wanted Jack to think about either Juliet or Kate as who
he wanted to spend time with. Not only did Reetae complain about this earlier in the video (about Juliet and
Jack’s small relationship being a weak part of the show. Which I agree with), but making it part of the vital
decisions in Jack’s character arc is baffling. In T
he End he instead has a moment with Christian Shephard, his
father, telling him that the most important time he spent in his life was with the LOST characters. In a way
breaking the 4th wall and acknowledging the audience and Jack. I think people would be more furious if Jack
only acknowledged “either Kate or Juliet” at the end of the show.
*
Reetae didn’t like the ending of C abin Fever when Locke says: “He wants us to move The Island”. That’s also
his opinion. In the Live Threads on The Fuselage and Lostpedia the reaction was quite opposite (Cabin Fever is
a popular Locke-episode). On Lostpedia several fans felt the ending was the best part of the episode22 saying: “I
thought this episode was just ok until the last 2 minutes with claire and then "move the island". then I thought it
was the best all season!”, “whoa, what an ending”23 and “WOW!!!!!!!! Move the island!!! Thats awesome!!!”. And
there was enthusiasm in the Mysteries-section at DarkUFO.24 Of course, in the big picture those users don’t
represent the vast audience that saw the episode. But Reetae doesn’t provide any sources on the fan reactions
anyway, so I could provide at least some of them. Many were making connections after this episode aired that
The Island might’ve moved during the purple-sky event25 although Darlton said it didn’t at a later event (but it
21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYC8Apc62gw
22
https://forum.lpedia.com/showthread.php/14027-04x11-quot-Cabin-Fever-quot-(Questions-Theories-Discussion)
23
https://forum.lpedia.com/showthread.php/14026-04x11-quot-Cabin-Fever-quot-(In-show-Analysis-amp-Chat)/page22
24
https://lostmysteries.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-is-locke-supposed-to-move-island.html
25
https://forum.lpedia.com/showthread.php/14467-The-Violet-Light-The-Island-quot-Moving-quot
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made The Island visible). The immediate reactions on DarkUFO were fantastic.26 For the “Love it” vs. “Didn’t
Love it”-threads on The Fuselage, there were more replies for the former than the latter. And after reading the
seven pages on the “Didn’t Love it”-thread, the main criticism for this episode is that it feels disjointed, some
people didn’t like Christian being in the cabin, that Desmond didn’t go with Sayid on the Zodiac raft and that it
overall felt to mythological and sci-fi (where the “moving the island”-bit comes in).27 There were more concerns
after There’s No Place Like Home Part 2, not this episode. And the main concerns on the finale wasn’t just the
island being moved. It was also the death of Michael, that fans felt abrupt. He was hyped since the summer of
2007 as a character coming back (he was even on the panel at Comic-Con) and starred in a lot of the mobisodes
as well. Due to his main cast-contract, he had to be credited for every episode until he was revealed at the end of
the seventh episode. Guest actor Kevin Durand were in more episodes than Harold, and the finale left a bitter
taste with some fans and with Harold Perrineau himself. Oscar Dahl from B uddyTv wasn’t pleased with that
part in the season 4-finale and said:
“Put yourself in Harold's shoes: the writers made a big hullabaloo about bringing Michael back
to the show, only to stow him away on the freighter, have him get beat up a bunch and then killed
in an episode filled with emotional reunions. I t can't feel good to have your character killed off on
a major TV show. If I was Harold, I too would be pissed off. There was a lot more story that
could have been told with Michael and Walt.”28
Anyway, let’s get back to the idea of the line uttered by Locke at the end of C abin Fever. The idea and theories
of The Island moving had been there since season 1. For instance, a comparison was made with the 90’s
animated show Noah’s island which was a moving island that came through after a meteorite strike cut it out of
the mainland (picture 4.9). And the one controlling the island was a polar bear. If the Island moved, maybe it
could “pick up” polar bears from the north.
Picture 4.9
26
https://darkufo.blogspot.com/2008/05/what-did-you-think-of-episode-411-cabin.html
27
http://thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=93792&page=5
28
https://web.archive.org/web/20090223061122/http://www.buddytv.com/articles/lost/harold-perrineau-upset-with-lo-20058.aspx
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And a little later in the first season a small beechcraft ended up on The Island. Boone asked the correct question:
“What is a Nigerian priest doing on an Island in the South Pacific?”. By the time this episode aired and someone
posted “Island moving” in The Fuselage thread29 it had earlier been covered in the now taken-down-section
called “Wild theories” by the user Chronicycle that said:
“Yeah, I posted this back when the "Wild Theories" board was still up. Basically, the island could
be travelling along the cable we forst [sic] met in Solitary. Just like cable cars. This would explain
the polar bears, Joanna drowning (the island could have been moving away from her), the
changing star patterns, and the tides”.
And this is something fans have rediscovered later on with rewatches, where the scene of the tide washing up
being a clue30 and a user called “the tide washing up the fuselage” the 6th best foreshadowing on the show on a
SpoilerTV countdown.31 Later in season 1 we see the Black Rock that set sail from the Eastern coast of Africa
and suddenly winds up in the jungle. (Some theorized that The Island moved to a location where The Black
Rock was sailing). A moving island was a popular theory after the first season. On the November 6th 2006
podcast we had a fan that asked the showrunners this question:
Carlton Cuse: I would like to know, Damon. And this is called "Moving" from "Marvelo18": "I
was thinking… does the island move? How does Eko's short range plane…" (well, it says "plans", I
assume he means "plane")… "go from somewhere near Africa to somewhere near Australia?
Maybe the island is forever moving. Just a thought."
Damon Lindelof: I think that's a fascinating thought. And I couldn't possibly answer that
question, 'cause if we were to reveal something so ginormous as if the island were moving us…
Carlton Cuse: In a podcast. They would fire us.
Damon Lindelof: They would fire us instantly. And also, it would be much cooler if they would
reveal something like that on the show.
For a lot of fans the ending of C abin Fever fueled their imagination because a theory that was there for 3-4 years
was confirmed.
“A station dedicated to research time travel. Because, why not”
This station wasn’t introduced here, but one year in advance. We knew about The Orchid from the outtakes
presented to us at Comic-Con 2007. I can understand the criticism towards the introduction to it, because they
didn’t mention time travel as one of the studies in the first orientation film. But then again I have to repeat
something I said much earlier. There were multiple times the network and the writers weren’t agreeing on stuff.
The network feared the inclusion of science-fiction. They said no to the real purpose of the scientific expedition
29
http://thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=9968
30
http://thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=115019&highlight=moving+island&page=2
31
http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=13101&start=135
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in season 1 (Danielle Rousseau was supposed to say: “time” as their field of study when Sayid asked her).
However, as time went by they managed to work that into the show. They snuck in a tiny reference to it in The
Long Con when they pick up a radio station playing “Moonlight Serenade”. Hurley says that it could come from
“any time” as a joke, but this was also a foreshadowing. If the show were to end in season 3, it would still be a
joke. But since they negotiated a deal and could do the show they always wanted, it had more relevance to it. If a
group of scientists (anywhere in the world) found a place that could be important in the study of time travel,
why wouldn’t they want to build a research station and try to learn what it was?
Referring to The Island moving in the finale “This is it, folks! This was the moment when Lost
officially jumped the shark”
Picture 4.10
I will once again refer him to the first part where I explain why Reetae has misinterpreted the term “jump the
shark”. And it’s not “officially”, but “subjectively”. None of the TV critics called it a “jump the shark”-moment.
The Guardian nominated Stranger in a Strange Land, because that is what the fans consider to be the weakest
episode, but said that it couldn’t be the episode that “jumped the shark”, because it helped them negotiate and
end deal.32 Even The Rolling Stones Magazine, that said that the show disappointed them many times, pointed
out that there isn’t a single or clearly defined “jump the shark”-moment because no fans can agree on that.33 If
you go through all articles, forum posts and comment section you will have a repeating “in my opinion it
jumped the shark when …” from several users about several moments. Even TV critics have many different
arguments on when it happened. This isn’t only for Lost. Other shows can also be just as hard to pinpoint. Half
a year after the season 4-finale aired, Darlton were interviewed by Fanbolt about the phrase and Carlton Cuse
said.
32
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/mar/20/lost-abc-stranger-strange-land
33
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-lists/jumping-the-shark-10-great-tv-shows-that-took-a-turn-for-the-worse-156728/the-office-3435
9/
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“We actually TRY and jump the shark all the time. The last thing we want to do is feel like the
show is falling into a tired paradigm. In fact this season we start out with a new narrative
approach. Not the now traditional flashbacks or flashforwards. We always are trying to keep the
storytelling surprising.”34
Reetae found it too silly that you had to go down to a frozen chamber and turn a donkey wheel to move the
island. This is also subjective. I liked this scene because it ties some mysteries from the 4th season. To bring up
Peirce sign system, the polar bear is an index of winter and snow. They’ve surprised us once by having it in the
jungle in the first season, then in the desert, but the one in the desert was probably in this cold chamber at some
point in time. We also had the cold breath and parka Ben wore in The Shape of Things to Come. The frozen
chamber seems “out there”. It’s that weird and strange part of Lost that J.J. Abrams and Damon Lindelof
wanted to shine in the Pilot. And the wheel Ben pushes is also reminiscent of the wheel of dharma (picture
4.11), the symbol and summary of the Buddhist’s Eight-fold path to nirvana.35 This cycle is also the emblem of
Chakravatin, “the wheel turner”, which is a Sanskrit term for a universal ruler.36 I also like that the place is
frozen, not just because of the writers’ interest in challenging the show, but that it is frozen in one location until
someone frees it and gets it moving. While moving it shines a bright, yellow light (which I will come back to,
since it has a relevance in season 6), but most importantly is the moment Ben has realized he has lost his position
as the leader of The Others. MIB originally built it not to move the island, but to leave it. And Ben is prepared
to never see the place again.
Picture 4.11: The dharmacakra
“But to a lot of people this was the first sign that the show was veering towards disaster. And you
know what, those people were 100% right”
I would like to see the polls or references to the audience reactions to the season 4-finale. However, this is also a
subjective opinion.
The reason why Reetae didn’t like this moment is that it meant that the show could no longer explain things in
a science-fact-way. He pulls out two sources where the Lost producers said there’s a logical explanation for
34
https://www.fanbolt.com/5869/interview-damon-lindelof-carlton-cuse-from-lost/
35
https://www.ancient-symbols.com/buddhist-symbols.html
36
https://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/symbols/aff10490/
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everything in 2005. But that is what the answers to a show look like in 2005. The show grew and developed. The
network intervened, new writers came on board, the fans voiced their opinion on the show (and the fans were
much more into the sci-fi-elements we got. The reception to F lashes Before Your Eyes were phenomenal). And
some things didn’t work out when writing or some things worked. And as a result of a living and breathing
organism that the show was, the answers changed. The quotes Reetae brings up comes from a time they weren’t
allowed to do time travel. It comes from a time where the show could be two seasons or 13. In that case I can
understand the frustration of the viewers that thought the show (with all the questions and answers) was set in
stone from the first minute. But that’s not really how it works, which I have made abundantly clear in the
previous parts. I don’t think Reetae even read the entire N ew York Times article from 2005 that he presented,
because they also say this in the very same interview:
“But we don't know and we can't know. For ABC, this is a very financially successful enterprise, and
rightfully their goal is to have to it go along as long as they can have it go along.”37 In the very same interview they
also embraced the model of X -Files where Frank Sponitz was a writer for eight out of the nine years:
X-Files creator Chris Carter, did not think the series would go past five years and planned
accordingly. When ratings and financial success demanded otherwise, the producers had to
improvise. (...) Both Mr. Lindelof and Mr. Cuse embrace Mr. Spotnitz's theory that the show is
about the journey, not the ending, and sound resigned to mixed reviews no matter how they
resolve the various mysteries.
Yes. “No matter h ow they resolve the various mysteries”. I’ve already covered that creativity and writing is a
growing process that changes along the journey. And the series finale highlighted the journey as “the most
important time”. It was the one we spent with “these people”.
So it is true what Reetae says that over time they were pushing the envelope on what could be considered logical,
because the show really was changing. The answers and mysteries had more nuances over time. They
experimented with more genre conventions. Some episodes felt like Hitchcock-specials, some like film-noir. We
had adventure-tropes, horror-tropes and in season 4-5 a lot of elements that were more prominent in
science-fiction. If the show were to end in the 2nd season the answers would be different, yet still stick to the
core (that I mentioned in part 1).
“It was harder for fans to explain what was happening each week”
I am also puzzled by his sources here as well. There are some mysteries in season 1 many fans had a hard time
trying to figure out, while there were mysteries in later seasons that were easily puzzled together. Fans knew for
an instance that the baby in season 5’s Because you Left had to be young Miles, but had much harder time trying
to figure out Sayid’s triangle on the map in season 1’s Special. I would like to see more sources from Reetae on
this claim. The fans were very creative and brought quite intelligent conclusions. (Not always. Apophenia is
something I’ll address in a later part). Reetae begins to list up elements from the show that “the fans” viewed as
bad/weird, but accepted, because they felt these things were going to get a logical explanation in the end:
37
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/18/arts/television/the-laws-of-the-jungle.html?mtrref=www.google.dk&gwh=E56FC9BFD0B57DD
5421B600344AEDEFE&gwt=pay
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“Ben kidnap Jack so that he can operate on him, when he could’ve easily asked him. Okay, that’s
really stupid, but I’ll go with it”
Where’s the tension and dramaturgy in that? Like Hitchcock once said: “They don’t go to the police because it’s
dull.”38 Ben wanted to do it his way. Manipulate Jack to think that he wants to save Ben’s life. Sawyer and Kate
were pawns in this mind game, which succeeded. Even though there was a hiccup in the plans.
“Desmond’s vision about Claire getting in a helicopter was completely wrong even though every one
of his visions were 100%. I’ll go with it”
No, they weren’t. Only two of the visions of Charlie’s death was 100% accurate and that was Locke’s speech and
the one where Charlie died in The Looking Glass. In every other case, something happened so that Charlie’s
death was prevented. Charlie didn’t die in the ocean, by the lightning strike, getting slammed by the rocks while
catching the birds or with an arrow in the throat. Something happened that changed the picture in the box. The
same thing in this situation. Aaron got in the chopper with Kate. But the end result got the same. Claire was
destined to leave The Island, and three years later she left The Island, just on a plane instead. Everyone can come
up with their theory on what element changed “the picture in the box”. It seems very likely that it was The Man
in Black. Sawyer, Miles, Claire and Aaron were heading towards the beach. Claire and Aaron would’ve been on
the first ride to the freighter, along with Sun (who was pregnant). MIB appeared as Christian and lured her away
from this situation.
“Mikhail was somehow able to swim underwater and pull a grenade even though he had been
harpooned in the chest by Desmond? I’ll go with it”
Most people would go with it, since this is a classical trope in villains for TV and film. Just watch an action
movie. It’s the “Not quite dead”-trope. They do the same trick with Keamy in the next season. And it has been
established in the show that wounds heal quickly anyway.
Charlie having a lot of time to get out of the room instead of sacrificing himself.
Charlie decided, in that moment, to sacrifice himself so that Desmond’s vision of Claire and Aaron being
rescued would come true. Seeing as it wasn’t Penny’s boat didn’t matter, because he knew (from C atch-22) that
Naomi came on a chopper. Charlie believed in Desmond’s visions, because they still happened even though
something changed the picture in the box. He knew he was going to die very soon, since Desmond couldn’t
keep saving him forever. Charlie decided to make his death mean something.
Naomi being able to walk around with a knife in her back, climb a tree and then bleed to death.
In the same vein as Mikhail. But in this case I agree with Reetae. This was my least favorite part of the episode,
since I felt the pacing was off. It was obvious that they had to stall a little bit after “Hell yeah we can. Sit tight.
We'll be right there” t hat went to “we're getting some RF interference. We're gonna need to re-jigger some of the
38
http://www.thebluegrassspecial.com/archive/2010/june10/hitchcock-truffaut-interview.php
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settings on your sat phone.” It’s obvious (and understandable) that this episode had to center around Charlie, so
the episode in itself didn’t have the same drive. They had to write that they are introduced to Daniel Faraday at
the cliffhanger of the episode, so that the next episode is entirely devoted to the freighter-people.
Miles having a live grenade in his mouth for days and the show never came back to it
Picture 4.12
The grenade was also bothering me in the 4th season, but not so much in the next. It would’ve been impossible
for Miles to die, because he existed in the past. In my head-canon, Locke went back to Miles after a while and
saw that the grenade was on the ground and nothing had happened. Miles was still alive. He saw that it hadn’t
detonated. Miles could probably think that it was a trick with a faulty grenade or the firing pin was removed,
but Locke could believe that The Island intervened. Miles wasn’t supposed to die.
Reetae didn’t like the addition of The Island magically disappearing and that the writers couldn’t adhere to the
science-fact-explanation they gave in 2005. This is also a situation where you can add the death of the author.
Someone watching this on a streaming service or buying it on physical media will not be subjected to these
quotes. And with internet sites going down (which makes this study even harder, since forums aren’t accesible
and news articles have to be dug out by archives), then the Lost-audience of 2018 will never have heard of the
writers’ ideas for what the show was in 2005.
“The moment that magic seeped into the construct of the show was the moment that Lost stopped
being Lost”
If Lost s topped being Lost i n this moment is a matter of opinion, but the supernatural aspects have been there
from the start. Even things like The Numbers appearing throughout the flashbacks, wouldn’t be possible to
explain with a logical mindset in season 1. And even the most rational man on The Island said this about the
crash:
SAYID: No worse than the odds of our surviving that plane crash.
KATE: People survive plane crashes all the time.
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SAYID: Not like this one. The tail section broke off while we were still in the air. Our section cart
wheeled through the jungle and yet we escaped with nothing but a few scrapes. How do you
explain that?
KATE: Blind, dumb luck?
SAYID: No one's that lucky. We shouldn't have survived.
KATE: Sorry, Sayid, some things just happen, no rhyme, no reason.
Even a few episodes before this scene we get a confirmation by Locke that this place is magical
“I'm an ordinary man, Jack, meat and potatoes, I live in the real world. I'm not a big believer in
magic. But this place is different. It's special. The others don't want to talk about it because it
scares them. But we all know it. We all feel it.”
To suggest that the supernatural and magic elements in season 4 “jumped the shark” and had no foundation in
the rest of the series is simply inconsistent with what the show told us from the very beginning. The show could
veer down the science-fact-route if it was one season long. But it didn’t.
Reetae claims that the show in season 5 and 6 is a very different show than it was before. Which is true, but this
is the story the writers wanted to tell. I think it’s just that Reetae really liked that the series should end with a
classical rescue. The remaining two seasons are part of the third phase that I mentioned earlier.
“What was once a show that encouraged thoughts and theories and invited people to be
smart and analytical, now demanded viewers to turn off their brains and blindly accept
what crazy bullshit it was throwing at the screen”
No, it didn’t. Lost-fans were still theorizing and analyzing the show. That didn’t disappear. Not even after the
show was over. You have to go to page 133 on Lostpedia to get to the discussion threads that were started on the
day the finale aired.39 That means the show inspired users to create over 6600 discussions after it was all over.
And you have to go to page 598 to return to the day T here’s No Place Like Home Part 2 was aired. Which is
where Reetae says that fans stopped theorizing and analyzing, yet Lost-fans created over 23.250 discussion
threads from this point in time all the the way to the ending of the show. This is just based on Lostpedia and not
the other discussion forums. On Lostpedia, the episode discussions for season 6 had more replies than episode
discussions for season 3 and 4.40 Fan-gatherings has been happening over ten years since the show premiered.41
On The Fuselage, there was still a lot more discussion during the 2nd season, which is evident by the amount of
posts and threads, but the theories and analysis never disappeared. The Fuselage has a pretty consistent amount
of threads and replies for season 4, 5 and 6 with more than 3.000 threads per season. There was less activity for
obvious reasons. It had lost a fair share of its audience in the US, so it makes sense that the activity peaked during
the 2nd season. And it is true that the frozen donkey wheel-scene split made some viewers to give up, as evident
by the reaction threads on The Fuselage in the “Didn’t love it”-thread and ratings for the subsequent two
seasons.
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https://forum.lpedia.com/forumdisplay.php/2-Main-Forum/page131?order=desc
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https://forum.lpedia.com/forumdisplay.php/8-Episode-Discussions
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http://thelostcon.com/
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Popular sites such as DarkUFO came to fruition after the third season and became a highly popular site.
The Washington Post wrote about it in 2008 (during the 4th season) and it grew even stronger with a new
interface. In 2009 it could report that it had page hits from numerous countries (here listed with name and page
hits):
United States - 7546803
United Kingdom - 1468403
Canada - 714552
Germany - 370475
Spain - 223505
Italy - 205644
France - 173583
Australia - 173220
Poland - 154637
Netherlands - 149389
Brazil - 142874
Greece - 112699
Ireland - 91074
Turkey - 86082
Sweden - 76283
Portugal - 75471
Argentina - 74765
Belgium- 71468
Norway - 58473
They even had page hits from Tajikistan, Greenland and the Vatican.42 After season 5, Lost University was
created.43 Lost-fans participated in classes hosted by professors about hieroglyphics, time travel, philosophy,
foreign languages, physics and more. You even had homework. Reetae might not have read the literature that
spawned after the fifth or sixth season either. Pearson Moore’s Lost b
ooks, such as Lost Humanity: The
Mythology and Themes of LOST was released after the show was over. I don’t think Reetae remembers the long
discussions about Sawyer’s rope in This Place is Death, if you can change the past, Eloise Hawking (which
finally came back to the show), the oud in Jacob’s cave, the identity of the statue (which we saw the backside of
in LaFleur. Discussion went through all Egyptian goddesses and people even suggested it was a statue of Juliet)
and much more.44 The 6th season inspired a lot of users to study the religious aspect of the flash-sideways and
the combination of different historical architecture for The Temple and the Lighthouse. On SpoilerTV fans
created over 140 scripts for their own mobisodes45Yung23 was one of the most popular cartographer from
LostTV-Forum where he used a Sandbox2 engine to create the entire island, a project he had done from time to
time since the beginning of the show to years after. He updated his site with the Looking Glass station in 2011,46
Smoke monster chamber in 201247 and an 8km x 8km island in 2013.48
42
https://darkufo.blogspot.com/2009/07/lost-fans-even-in-antarctica.html
43
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Lost_University
44
http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2009/03/episode-5x08-lafleur-four-toed-statue.html
45
http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=18737
46
https://www.moddb.com/mods/lost-the-return/images/the-looking-glass-preview#imagebox
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https://www.moddb.com/mods/lost-the-return/images/smokeys-lair#imagebox
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https://www.moddb.com/mods/lost-the-return/images/lostthereturn-island-preview#imagebox
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Saying that the show didn’t spawn theories and analysis is a lie as evident by the sheer number of theories and
analysis that were produced after May 29th 2008 (when the season 4-finale was aired). It might’ve been too
much of it at times. At least the obsessive study and research that the fans of L
ost did was harmless. Breaking
Bad had a bigger problem with fans trying to make meth or getting rid of a body in a bathtub.50
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-37318447
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/12/13/breaking-bad-super-fan-tried-to-get-rid-of-body-like-walter-white
-using-a-bathtub-full-of-acid/?utm_term=.2d6f17e2df90
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