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Werner Heisenberg
(RQM) and Consistent Histories ([Griffiths]iii) (CH) are discussed and related to the
postulates. By dropping the assumption that unobserved macroscopic events are ³in a
about everyday reality) that does not contradict experiment or everyday experience. As a
quantum principle (in CH) to a macroscopic principle. Macroscopic events which have
The Relational model¶s premise is that the state of any observable cannot be said
to be absolute, but rather is determined only from the point of view of a given observer
(i.e. it is relationally defined). Hence, every measurement is seen as a relational exchange
of information between two entities that now form a relationship. These relationships are
essentially ³relational data´ about the world, but they cannot be seen as ³absolute facts´,
of events can be considered together as a family (rather than one by one). Many such
possible families (³frameworks´) can be defined, and which chain of events actually
happens in the experiment might not be determined until the end of the experiment. Once
the final result is known, one can then infer that all the previous events in that specific
family history must also have happened (what I refer to as ³Retroactive Event
Determination´).
Roughly, for the purposes of this paper, CH states that whether or not an
Similarly, RQM states that whether or not an individual event can be considered to
Quantum Mechanics´, acknowledges and describes at length the overlap between the two
theories, and asks ³«how there can be facts, or data, if property ascriptions are only
framework dependent. I think that the answer is simply that there are no (observer
independent) data at all«´ Put another way, Rovelli perceives a hole in CH theory in that
the manner in which an event becomes certain from an absolute perspective is not well
defined. Rovelli plugs this hole with the proposal that no data is ever absolute, but is
This paper seeks to strengthen the connection between these two models by
starting with two postulates, each of which essentially relates to one of the two theories,
simple application of the positivistiv philosophy, which has been successfully applied in
much of modern physicsv. This principle states that the only meaningful concrete
statements we can make about the world are those that can be verified with observation
or experiment. In other words, any aspect of our physical theories that p is not
In the case of MQS states, we must accept as merely a postulate the assumption
that events in the world that are happening now, but are outside of our realm of
observation, are determined and fixed in an absolute sense. Though this assumption
seems to explain very well the world we experience on a daily basis, it is not the only
by meaning, and therefore happen together even in the absence of any physical causal
relationship.
To understand my approach, let¶s first consider the approach that particle
physicists use to predict the existence of virtual particles. Any particle that exists for a
timescale shorter than that on which the fabric of the universe would allow it to be
measured (via the Heisenberg Uncertainty relations) cannot be said either to exist or to
not exist. We cannot (nor can nature) prove that these quantum fluctuations ÷ p , so
we have to assume they do. Yet we cannot say they ÷ exist, because we cannot measure
them experimentally. Do they exist, or don¶t they? The Anarchic principlevi says that all
not forbidden underneath the limits given by the Uncertainty Principle, then we can be
Such particles are therefore in a category of things that fall outside of observation,
yet have a very real and profound effect on actual physical processes. For instance, in the
vacuum of space, the existence of virtual particle pairs predict Hawking radiationvii.
Because of Hawking radiation, black holes will eventually dissipate themselves into
space. Virtual particles are also a key aspect of the Standard Model for forces, in which
virtual particle pairs are responsible for inhibiting the range of force carrying particlesviii.
The end result in the observable world is to define the range and properties of the forces
an inability to refute their existence, can have a profound impact on the observable
universe.
In a similar way, we can consider MQS states more as logical conundrums rather
than physical things, and yet arrive at a tangible physical result that has definite
consequences. Just as we cannot peer within the Heisenberg limits to see virtual particles,
we also cannot be ÷pp about any macroscopic event we haven't observed. The only
see that unobserved, necessarily hypothetical events can be included in reliable, 'true'
theories regarding observed events. This claim holds as long as the hypothetical events
say what state it is in, nor whether it is even in a definite state. We should not simply
assume it is in some state if we ourselves are not observing it. From a strict interpretation
To state it another way, in discussing MQS states, the analog of the Anarchic
they must occur. (If it can happen, it will happen.) Yet we can never experimentally see
this undetermined state (just as we can never see virtual particles) because it is logically
impossible to see something and have it remain unobserved at the same time (just as it is
logically impossible to see something with precision greater than the Heisenberg limit).
Using the same logic for both of these phenomena, we see that it is valid to assume that
In summary, the postulates presented here will show that any entity (using first a
photon and then a human as an example) always displays physical properties upon
measurement, but its very existence is undetermined when not observed. In other words,
any entity that is unobserved cannot be said to exist in a definite state. When unobserved,
the ³existential behavior´ of an object (µwhen¶ and µwhere¶ it could be measured) obeys
wave mechanics. There are multiple simultaneous possible realities for all unobserved
objects (according to CH), and a single definite reality is singled out only upon
taken from Relational Quantum Mechanics. Rovelli comments directly on this in RQM:
³A quantum mechanical description of a certain system (state and/or values of physical quantities) cannot be
taken as an µabsolute¶ (observer independent) description of reality«the quantum state of a system is always a
³«there is neither an absolute state of the system, nor absolute properties that the system has at a certain time.´
[Rovelli pg 7]
This means that we must assume that an event has a definite state only if we have
inferred its state through measurement, in which case it is only definite from our specific
perspective. We will consider the wave function to be a fundamentally real but non-
physical entity. By ³non-physical´, we mean that it is not subject to the laws of space and
time. It depends on rules of information and logical consistency, similar to µthought¶, and
has no physical permanency. The wave function is assigned the role of calculating the
many possible futures of every physical entity forward through time and throughout
space, but it is not limited to specific localized time and space constraints. As a result,
determined after-the-fact.
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Postulate1:
perspective. The only events that are µdetermined¶ for an observer are those that
have been observed by the observer. Those that are not yet observed are
µundetermined¶.
more than the idea that I simply don¶t know what has happened yet. It is the fact that
it hasn¶t actually µhappened¶ yet Vpp pp . This postulate implies that
the state of any observable is not absolute. The second postulate extends this.
Postulate2:
This postulate says that there is no global, bird¶s eye perspective on our world that
can see everything in a definite state. Definite states can only be viewed from a single
really ³agreed upon subjectivity´, the agreement on mutually observed events by two
localized observers. Instead of being able to ask the global question ³What has
actually happened?´ we are left with only being able to ask ³What has happened with
[Rovelli] (RQM) each provide crucial conceptual and mathematical foundations that
support these postulates. Consistent histories theory postulates that we can look at the
³questions´ we pose to a system determine the framework of possible histories that are
available, and only one framework can be used in a given analysis in order to maintain a
consistent (non-paradoxical) description of the system. This reflects the second postulate,
which states that we can only describe the world from a single perspective at a time (there
events are not required to be determined at the moment they happen. Rather, when we
pose a set of questions to the system (set the framework), the available histories are
selected retroactively. Events in that history which lead up to this moment are allowed to
fall into place retroactively, so long as the formalities of consistency are observed.
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understand the world as a place in which there are no absolute states of observables, but
Let's look into these two postulates, as applied to the delayed choice experiment.
Consider any two correlated events, such as the measurement of photon S by Q and by P
in the diagram below (Figure 1). Our common sense tells us that the measurement by Q
delayed choice paradox). Experiment has shown ([Jacques, et al.]ix) that this apparent
The previous postulates help us understand this situation. Postulate 1 tells us that
events are not determined at the moment they ³happen´. Events are only determined
upon necessity, i.e., an event only becomes definite if another event is observed that
requires it to be so. In this example, we cannot say that the particle traveled along a
definite path within the apparatus, unless we measure a specific result at P whose logical
history requires the particle to have traveled along that path. Until such a measurement is
This is at the core of (my interpretation of) Consistent Histories theory, which
says that a particular event is µpackaged¶ into a string or family of events, all of which are
orthogonal to each other. If the last event in a history (P¶s measurement) is observed to
be true, the previous events in the history (Q¶s measurement) all must have happened as
well. In this case, the other unselected histories cease to exist. Griffiths ³framework-
based´ approach can be used to imply that the events earlier in the history are being
retroactively determined when the event at the end of the sequence is determined
[Griffiths, Ch 12]. I propose that this is a very useful interpretation, because it can be
applied to macroscopic scenarios while helping us avoid any paradox of causality. This is
Determination (RED).
As an example, in the situation we are discussing here, there are at least two
different possible histories (one for each leg of the apparatus) that remain undetermined
until the measurement by P. The event ³photon traveled path 1´ is determined to be true
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to change the wave function retroactively, so long as we do not change anything that has
actually physically happened. If we are selecting a specific history from the wave
function (which is comprised of a family of histories), we can affect events in the past by
observing a particular history, without actually changing anything that has physically
happened. Again, this is because postulate 1 says that unobserved events have not
actually p happened yet. We would avoid any paradox of ³changing the past´ by
which have not already happened yet, whose wave function can still be adjusted (even
though the event¶s time coordinate is in the past). In other words, if events we are
affecting are still just information, and have not yet been actually determined, then we are
not changing anything physical in the past, and no physical law of causality is violated.
This line of thought brings up the argument that one could hypothetically observe
event Q secretly, so that when event P is measured, event Q has already been determined
in some ³absolute´ sense, even though P may not know it. This, however, is exactly the
a correlation of Q and the thing being measured (the photon, S). As a result, when P
measures the photon S, they are actually measuring a wave function that represents the
correlated states of S and Q. Any measurement by P will therefore always produce results
that are consistent with any previous measurement by Q. Rovelli says: ³P has information
about the initial state (of S), and therefore has the information that the measurement
(between Q and S) has been performed. The meaning of this is that she knows that the
states of the S-Q systems are correlated, or more precisely, she knows that if at a later
time t3 she asks a question to S concerning property A, and a question to Q concerning
his knowledge about A, « she will get consistent results.´ [Rovelli pg 15]
So the histories of Q and S are now intertwined. This does not mean that the event
(although indeed it was determined from Q¶s perspective). From P's perspective, the
states of S and Q are still undetermined at the time of P's measurement. From P's
the results of Q¶s measurement fall into place after the fact when P makes his
also plays the role of unobserved entity from P¶s perspective, and exists in an
undetermined state.
Postulate 1 describes this behavior in its statement that events are only considered
the events of S and Q were both undetermined until they were observed and retroactively
fell into place. Observer Q, however, would say the same thing about events S and P.
Rovelli proposes the same idea in his Relational model: ³a quantum mechanical
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The formalisms to support each of these theories are well established and are
worked out thoroughly in their original sources. For our purposes, we will give an outline
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As our example, consider a single event with two possible outcomes, which is
At each step, we look at the situation from various perspectives, and from any
given perspective the wave function states will be different. This is the essence of
Relational QM: the state of a system is not absolute, but rather is determined only relative
to a given observer.
ȁ = |S0>
After the ³event´, the wave function S0 splits into two superimposed states, as in
equation 2. Upon measuring S, observer 1 (Q) will obtain a definite measurable result
(either |S1 > with probability c12 or |S2 > with probability c22), but the wave function
doesn¶t objectively collapse. Instead, the wave function of Q becomes correlated with S.
The wave function remains a wave function, so that anytime it is measured by other
observers it gives an observable result specific to the measurer from the various possible
From observer Q¶s point of view, that¶s the end of the story. They have measured
S and gotten a definite result. We avoid the need for objective collapse through the
For the second observer P, we say that the result of the measurement made by Q
s $ The combined state from P¶s perspective
is given below.
Eqn 3: From observer P point of view before they make a measurement (t = 3,4)
|S2>´, and so forth. We must note that there are no cross terms such as |S2, Q1>, because
this would say that ³Q measured |S1> yet S was actually in state |S2>´. This circumstance
and is forbidden.
Now in this way, whenever P makes a measurement, they will measure one of the
two terms above. Therefore, they will always find that if they measure S to be in state
|S2>, they will also find that Q is in state |Q2> (which means Q measured |S2 > as well).
ȁP = |S2, Q2>
This is the final result for observer P, since they have measured a definite result.
Of course, we can continue this process to any number of observers, and find that the
increasing size and complexity. For instance, from yet another observers perspective, K,
when P makes his measurement, all three previously defined wave functions will become
correlated in a consistent way. Before K makes his measurement of any one of the three
previous wave functions (S, Q, or P), from K¶s perspective they exist together in a
When K makes a measurement of any or each of these wave functions, they will
always find that the states of all three entities agree. Instead of the wave function
³objectively´ collapsing, we find that the system which the overall wave function
represents grows in size to accommodate the new interaction. In this way, the wave
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Observer P has measured a definite result from their own perspective, yet from observer
The astute reader will notice a potential paradox in these ideas if we assume that
each observer must have a determined reality from their own point of view. Such an
argument would say that we must either have an objectively collapsed wave function (an
objective reality) or many (infinite) worlds to account for all the possible branches of the
wave function.
This would indeed be the case if we were allowed to look at the situation
simultaneously from K¶s perspective and P¶s perspective, since from P¶s perspective the
state of the system (eqn 4) is determined whereas from K¶s (eqn 5) it is not. However, the
second postulate says we must describe the scenario from a single perspective only
(although both these
p can be said to simultaneously exist from different
they are always measuring an object in an undetermined state, even though that object p
The concept of retroactive event determination fits in nicely here, since each
state, which becomes determined or 'crystallized' from a given perspective
by future measurements made from that perspective. In a sense, it seems like
we are going back and affecting the past of others. Yet how can we say that we have
actually ÷ their past, if, by definition, we didn¶t know what their past was to begin
with? (Remember the analogy to virtual particles and positivist principles.) What is
important is that the method of ³becoming determined´ is done through a process that
ensures consistency.
In comparison to Everett¶s many worlds theory, the view presented here is that
one cannot say there are actually many real worlds, as in ³many different versions of our
present reality´, because one can never observe these µother worlds¶. Rather, from a given
which (say |S2, Q2>) becomes definite for that observer in the moment. There is no need
to ascribe reality to the other µunchosen¶ states, as these states can only be described from
another observer¶s perspective. Looking at the situation from two perspectives at once
violates our second postulate, the single-framework rule. In this view, no state is ever
objectively determined (only relative to a given observer), but wave functions are
Equation 5. At t=1 an event occurs which is a ³choice´ point. The photon enters the
apparatus, which has two possible paths for the photon, and the two detectors Q and P are
in their ready/untriggered states. History 1 starts with the photon S being in state 1, and
history 2 with the photon in state 2. As can be seen, the photon existing in state 2 (for
example) is correlated over time (±) with the event ³observer Q also measuring it in
state 2´, and then observer P doing the same. The two parallel histories represent a
measurements. Both of these histories are a valid description of the system, from a
particular observer¶s perspective (e.g. P¶s perspective), up until the point at which that
observer makes a measurement which requires the system to have a definite state. When
P makes a measurement at time t=5, from his point of view his measurement must have a
definite result. If he measures S=2, then at that point history 2 becomes the only valid
description of the system. Only at this moment (t=5) can all of the previous events in the
It should not be concluded that we are therefore p the past with our
Instead, we can say that we have retroactively determined the past state of the system.
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present moment, namely that an event is defined at the moment it happened. The
µpresent¶ is like a common reference point that we can all refer to and compare, and we
consider everything that happens to happen in the present. It is as if life is a piece of sheet
music, and the present moment is a cursor passing over each section of sheet music in
linear order.
p ÷, events are no longer determined by the passage of an imaginary cursor. There
is, in fact, no common present moment anymore. Events are not determined at the time
coordinates that they happen at (i.e., they don't ³happen´ when they happen). Instead,
they are determined at the moment that their existence is made necessary through a
For the purposes of this paper, we should clarify the meaning of the principle of
superposition as a redefining of what it means to µbe¶. Until observed, let us say that
objects have a degree of freedom in a 5th-dimension*x, which is to say that they exist in
multiple possible 4-dimensional states. These 4-dimensional states are simply differing
³versions´ of possible futures**. The fifth dimension represents all of the possible
5-dimensional reality.´
µobservation¶) which defines the state of the observed for the observer, confining it to a
observer.
consider that the object itself is really wavelike«it is its p that is wavelike. It is
an object whose pattern of existence is wavelike, i.e. whose µwhere¶ and µwhen¶ are
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In the 5-dimensional ³Information realm´ [Nelson]
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I.e. Einsteinian 4-dimensional space-time
measured or observed as a particulate thing. A common teaching tool is to describe a
photon as a µwavicle¶, and then to proceed to point out that it is impossible to describe
what a wavicle really looks like (i.e. it has some properties of a wave and some of a
particle, but the overall pattern of its existence (for example, when and where it is
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convenient way to illustrate the branching of possible states that occurs as a result of
postulates 1 and 2, from the perspective of the experimenter. This approach is described
[Jacques, et al], there are many various events that could affect the wave function within
the apparatus. At each one of these events, defined not in specific time intervals but
rather according to the specific nature of the situation, the wave function will branch (in
the fifth dimension), leading to two or more possible outcomes. I have chosen several
convenient events within this experiment to represent in the diagram. Each line represents
a 4th-dimensional world line, and the junction represents a fifth dimensional branching.
At the bottom of the diagram, the wave function makes a split at the location of
the beam splitter 1. One subsequent history involves traveling path 1 and the other path 2.
Each of these possibilities degenerates into more branches, not shown. In this diagram,
When the observer P takes a measurement at the end of the apparatus, in this case
they find that the photon was in the second state (Figure 3). Only upon this measurement
can one consider the events of this branch to be physically real from this individual
perspective. All the events within the branch (from the beginning of the experiment
onward) can be said to be retroactively real at this point. All other possible branches
disappear and are no longer possible, again from this individual perspective. Hence the
changing as past branches are trimmed, and new ones are added.
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reference frame, the state of the photon is fundamentally undetermined. It has evolved
from a definite state (at P¶s last measurement when the photon left the source) into a
multiplicity of states at later times. When the measurement is then made, events in the
photon's history are retroactively determined, in order to be consistent with any other
observed results.
Hilbert space structure of quantum mechanics is the appropriate sort of mathematics for
describing the world, then MQS states will be present in the theory, because the Hilbert
space is a linear vector space, so that if it contains (two possible states), it must also
contain their linear combinations.´ MQS states should actually be considered a prediction
MQS states, and then inferring from this that the future influences the past, or that there
are mysterious non-local influences«´ [Griffiths pg 283] In other words, the existence of
Maybe the reason for the typical avoidance of MQS states is that ³most physicists
do not have any intuitive idea as to what they mean.´ [Griffiths pg 283] We shall attempt
in this section to provide some help in this regard. Is it possible that the process described
above applies to all phenomena, not just microscopic situations? Not only is there nothing
in the two postulates I have presented that is specific and exclusive to the microscopic
realm, but in addition, the postulates are self-consistent when applied to macroscopic
world that behaves according to these principles will look exactly like the world we
Figure 6, Figure 7). You arrive at 5:00 p.m., and accidentally run into a good friend
(person S). Is it possible that, from your perspective, person S¶s history was
undetermined until you actually observed her at 5:00 p.m.? In other words, from your
perspective, her whereabouts were unknown at 4:45 p.m., and so you cannot rightfully
say that you know her existence was in a determined state, i.e. that she was on her way to
the grocery store. Instead, this theory says that her state was undetermined, and multiple
outcomes were possible. The only way to that she was actually on her way to the
grocery store would be through a measurement of some kind. So, of course, you could
that this was the case by asking your other friend (person Q) to call person S at
4:45 p.m., and ask what S¶s plans were, without telling you the result. In this case, person
become correlated. However, you still would not know what S's plans were, because
from your perspective the states of both Q and S are still undetermined. Therefore they
are still free to be determined. So if you then saw person S at the store at 5:00 p.m., you
would still be surprised. Yet, if you checked in with person Q, you would find that,
without fail, Q's information about S would be consistent with your observation of S at
the store: namely, Q would report that S had been on her way to the store at 4:45pm.
From your perspective (P), this allows for the possibility that, had you gone to the
gym instead of the store, the potential for an event ³P accidentally runs into S at the gym´
exists as well, because S and Q are not determined from P¶s perspective. Depending on
the choices of P, the same outcome (³running into S´, whether at the gym or at the store)
determination. In this way, Newtonian causality always remains true when measurements
are made, but people are able to make free will choices in the moment that lead to
state of a p is determined if we have not ourselves observed it, for there
is no way to prove that it is determined except through observing it. In this case, it is
possible and reasonable to wonder if the event called ³person S heads to the grocery
store´ did not really ³happen´ when it happened (the event at 4:45 p.m. was not
Postulate 2 points out that any two observers measuring a common experiment
will always arrive at the same conclusions about the experiment. This is what we call a
exists in both the apparatus¶ subjective reality and that of the photon. A ³shared
and it is the driving force of quantum mechanics, defining what is observable, and
is always a state of that system with respect to a certain other system.´ [Rovelli pg 6]
It is important that the histories (from the perspective of the photon or the
experimenters) agree on every aspect of reality. What pimportant is that their histories
agree on the details of any shared subjective event (i.e. interaction between the two). If
the experimenter notices that the choice point of the apparatus was in state 1 (and not
state 0), the resulting state of the particle (when measured!) must also reflect that the
choice point was in a state 1 and not state 0. Therefore, the history of the photon is free to
remain undetermined from the experimenter¶s point of view up until the measurement. It
is only necessary that, from any two individual perspectives, all commonly observed
Similarly, it is not necessary that all details of macroscopic reality are always in
observers agree.
What is generated here is a complicated web of events that are only determined
according to the scope of each individual observer. Events must be determined in such a
way that whenever two observer¶s views are compared, they will agree, and yet also
remain undetermined for an observer if they have not witnessed a specific event. It is
challenging to imagine how some macroscopic events could be undetermined for one
observer, and different events would be undetermined for a second observer, and yet
imagine how these two could interact without generating a conflict of logic. I propose the
following diagrams to show how these two postulates accomplish this without generating
In the diagram (Figure 8, Figure 9) are displayed very simple µ5-d possibility
wave function trees¶ for a (microscopic or macroscopic) event, from the perspective of
two different observers (P and Q). The object being measured, S, starts by splitting into
two families of events (History 1 and History 2), corresponding to some real world
µchoice point¶. Figure 8 on the left is drawn from the point of view of P. At the time that
allows P to make a measurement of S and get non-deterministic results (i.e. not already
determined by Q¶s measurement), while still ensuring that Q will agree on the details of
the measurement.
The key to avoiding paradox is in the second postulate, which in essence says that
we can only diagram a given scenario from a single perspective at a time (applying the
single-framework rule from CH). In such a diagram, the observer from whose perspective
the diagram is drawn will always have a solid, unbranching line. Other objects within the
diagram will have branching lines that represent superposition states, and these
are then able to be µmeasured¶ together such that for each event in the diagram, there is
always an outcome of the measurement available that allows for consistency with all
other events. But a problem seems to arise. Suppose that Q observes S at t=3 and
determines that S has taken the right-hand path. For P, the states of both Q and S are still
indeterminate at t=3. So couldn't P observe S at t=5 and find that S had taken the left-
hand path? And in that case, wouldn't Q have to exist in two 'alternate universes'²one in
which he observed S taking the left-hand path and one in which he observed S taking the
right-hand path?
Rather than believe that these µunchosen universes¶ (or µmany worlds¶) actually
exist, I think the mystery of how events can be compared without conflict can be resolved
based on the idea that one cannot meaningfully speak of the definite existence of a
separate point of view when one has already defined a first point of view. (Again, this is
one point of view to another, information is always exchanged, and this information
manages to define events in the new point of view so that they match the old. This is the
counterfactual point of view (³What would have happened if«?´), for this requires
stepping outside the system in question and magically gaining information about it
without actually becoming correlated with it. The only thing that can be defined is a set
One can see that (Figure 9) attempts to view a single situation from two
simultaneous perspectives, and as such it is not a valid drawing. Put another way, in
(Figure 9) we are attempting to look at the situation from more than one perspective at a
time. In doing so, we create a paradox in which P and Q would NOT agree on the state of
S when it is measured.
These diagrams are just a beginning and should be explored more deeply.
I have presented two postulates that attempt to provide a solid argument showing
that nature is undetermined except when observed. Postulate 1 says that any event
of possible histories for that observer. Its outcome is undetermined until its state is
observed, and then is only determined for that particular observer. The second postulate
says that there is no definitive global perspective that can see all events in a definite state.
We are always limited to speaking about definite events only as described from a
particular local perspective. From each local perspective, some events have been
observed (and are definite) and other events have not been observed (and are in a
Relational quantum mechanics and Consistent Histories, yet it may be that these two
postulates help provide an overall framework in which both these two established
theories make sense together and can be applied to macroscopic phenomena. I suspect
there are many potential consequences of this approach, and I have touched on only a
minimum. Specifically, I have pointed out that events don't actually ³happen´ when they
happen, what I call Retroactive Event Determination. This means a distinction is made
between ³when an event becomes determined´ and ³the time coordinate at which that
event actually occurred´. A distinction is also made between events that have been
³witnessed´ and are therefore ³facts´ from a given observer¶s perspective, and events that
have not been ³witnessed´ from that perspective, which still have multiple outcomes
The wave function is a chain of possible states (a ³history´), and contains an extra
possibility. These possible states are in a coherent superposition with each other, forming
principles of Consistent Histories). One cannot generally say whether a specific event in
a history has actually happened, but just that according to a given observer it has or hasn't
given event is observed by a given observer, the history(s) to which that event belongs
falls into place. This must happen in such a way that all of the events in the history can be
consistent with each other and with other event¶s observed by other observers. In this
way, through Retroactive Event Determination, the various histories observed by various
observers can fall into place in such a way that events are always consistent when
compared.
I have pointed out that nothing in the logic of these two postulates is specific to
microscopic objects or systems. I think that Rovelli might agree, from his statement:
³Physics is fully relational, not just as far as the notions of rest and motion are
considered, but with respect to all physical quantities´ [Rovelli pg 7], or from his
applied to the world of real macroscopic objects, these postulates yield a picture of our
world exactly as we experience it, with a logical and consistent flow of events. Further
research should be done into the implications of the macroscopic quantum states (MQS)
suggested by the postulates here, specifically with regards to ³synchronicity´, and the
determination.
A weakness of this paper is that it questions the nature of how events occur in
time and space, thereby challenging our general concepts of energy and information
flowing through a system, but the manner in which the energy was flowing at time T is
not determined for a certain observer until after time T, what does it say about the
absolute existence of energy at time T? Also, how can a nonphysical entity, the wave
function, be considered real in and of itself, capable of changing retroactively before its
effects are felt in physical space-time? This formulation should be done, and I suspect it
Among the appealing aspects of this model is that it adds no new assumptions to
our understanding of the situation. Instead, it subtracts the assumption that something
exists whether or not it is being observed. This idea aligns with the spirit of scientific
only what we can actually observe, and no more, and making no assumptions about the
assumption of ³objectively determined reality´ that we all live with on a day-to-day basis.
According to this model, the wave particle duality is now translated into an
³undetermined versus determined´ duality. Events that are determined from one
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I am grateful for the feedback of the following people, either in discussions about
these ideas which contributed to the theory, or in editing of the manuscript: Joseph Dowd
(for his extensive editing and contributions), Thomas Bischof, Dana Nelson-Isaacs, Jude
Rowe, Brant Hindman, Rob Bryanton, all drop-ins to the Expecting Synchronicity
There are a number of concerns with this view that might immediately present
themselves in the reader¶s mind, and I will address some of them in detail here.
The first concern is that at first view these postulates seem to be solipsistic. If the
world is fully relational in nature, and what is determined or not is totally defined per
observer, then it seems that reality is defined by the observer. How is it possible to have
any sort of common or objective reality in such a view? The answer is deep and lies at the
heart of the theory. We must consider the second postulate carefully: what is p÷pp
is indeed relative to the observer. This does not imply that there is no
objective reality. It implies rather that objective reality is something that is indefinite.
Objective reality must be defined as the linear superposition of all possible realities, of
which a single perspective is just one projection. It is perfectly possible for multiple
undetermined realities to match up without contradiction, as long as one follows the rules
objective reality. If one accepts that from one perspective (person P) the reality of another
person may be undefined (person S), we must also accept that from person S¶s
perspective, they will consider person P¶s reality undefined. Which is true? Which is the
objectively real state? In fact, these questions make no sense. Both states are correct
projections of the objective undefined reality into the perspective of that individual.
When the objective reality is seen as a superposition of all possible states, one is able to
stop assuming the concept of ³single objective reality´, though this is admittedly not easy
The world is only defined from individual points of view, yet no point of view is
favored. We have to be able to live with the concept of ³both-and´, where the defined
world depends on defining a point of view, but no single point of view is more important
The brief answer to the concern of solipsism is to consider very carefully the two
postulates, and especially the second. From a positivist point of view, all we know is
what we observe. We cannot talk about anything beyond this, which means two people
cannot compare the objective state of something unless they have both observed it.
Another concern is the question of collapse of the wave function. The theory
proposed here is based in part on Relational quantum mechanics, in which the idea of
collapse still has meaning but is defined relationally. Therefore, there is no such thing as
³objective collapse´, because a wave function that person P is observing is collapsed for
person P, but the same object may be in a superposition state for person S. A wave
function is a strange beast which takes a definite value when it is measured by one
Similarly, one might ask the question ³What collapses the wave function? Does
this require conscious observers?´ In the theory proposed here, quantum reasoning is
applied to macroscopic objects, and there is no distinction made between people, rocks,
or insects. Any object will be treated identically as a quantum system and correlate its
wave function with anything it interacts with. So we understand the relational collapse of
the wave function to be a result of information transfer between two objects, in which the
objects now contain information about each other. Although this information is in some
sense relative to the particular observer, it is relevant because it must remain consistent
with other exchanges of information that occur with other objects in the environment. Yet
it does not require any conscious entity. The only advantage that conscious entities have
describe it with words and symbols, but this has nothing to do with the physics of the
interaction itself.
distinction or division between quantum and classical systems: the foundation and the
distinction in that the theory proposed here supposes only one present reality for the
worlds that will never be observed. Instead the entire question of the existence of other
worlds is bypassed essentially through the use of positivism. It is generally the subtle
assumption of ³objective definite reality´ that requires the concept of many other real
Many-worlds theory would likely agree with the idea that our observed reality is a
projection from an indefinite ³higher´ objective reality, but a key difference is that in
RED the world observed by a single observer is considered definite and unique. There
can be no other versions (³worlds´) of this definite reality; there is only what is here,
now. Yet at any given time the majority of the universe is unobserved, and it is this
Finally, one is likely to bring up the common assumption that quantum principles
effects from the constituent atoms (which are the quantum systems). Here, however, we
have not tried to add up the contributions from many quantum systems. We have applied
not as a sum of their parts. We have shown that our discomfort with macroscopic
Indeed, one often makes the simplistic argument that we clearly never see
macroscopic objects in superposition states, so they must not exist. This is flawed
thinking, however, because in fact we never see p in superposition states,
measurements that a superposition state must have existed before the measurement, but
once the measurement is made we always observe only one real value for our
lessons of the microscopic quantum world, we should realize that in a p
There should however be ways to test the validity of the model, which will be dealt with
in a later section.
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Any new theory must distinguish itself from current theory by explaining
previously unexplained phenomena. On one hand, the RED approach is based on two
account for many known paradoxes of acausality and non-locality. As such CH, and by
inheritance RED, can account for such currently existing data as the delayed choice
However, RED goes further and makes claims about the retroactive determination
between events in the experimental µtimeframe¶ and choices made when the experiment
is actually performed, after the fact. Specifically, non-local experiments such as those
performed by Dean Radinxiv and others should be amenable to such retroactive event
determination. Because the causal relationship in these experiments does not rely on
physical cause and effect, any experiment that can get positive results in such a situation
should be theoretically possible to perform after the fact. The reader is referred to a
Experiments that rely on physical cause and effect would not show any RED effect,
because one can trace physical effects and their causes through linear, forward in time
The RED theoretical approach would likely be compatible with many of the
rigorous studies of the effects of consciousness on physical systems, such as those from
the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research laboratory. I encourage collaboration and
exploration between these experiments and the theoretical model proposed here.
An interesting parallel of this model with virtual reality programming has been
players in a real-time virtual world. One technique for dealing with this is called
synchronization include: The virtual world is only rendered in a definite state from the
perspective of each user (relational, postulate 1); there is no objective world, but rather
only the collection of worlds as rendered by all of the various users (postulate 2). Events
that are observed in common between two players must agree on the specific details
(consistency).
Optimistic synchronization is not proof that the world does work this way, nor
could it be a completely correct analog. Yet it may be a useful model which demonstrates
the way in which relationality and consistency work together in actual application, to
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