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Breaking down the

blockchain

The buzz has been bandied about with abandon when it comes to blockchain.
Yes, you know it’s about more than bitcoin, but what else do you know?
We queried some of the most notable names in payments to get the lay of the land, with focus on where
blockchain has been, where it’s going, and what the real world might demand of the digital ledger.
Breaking down the

blockchain

Table of contents

01 Crowe Horwath LLP 09 Emailage 17 Fiserv 25 Identity Mind 33 Modo Payments 41 Renovite Technologies
PLETHORA OF POWERS MORE THAN JUST A DATABASE INTELLIGENT INNOVATION IDENTITY IN THE ONLINE WORLD THE BLOCKCHAIN BANDWAGON TO TRUST OR NOT TO TRUST
David Uhryniak, Amador Testa, Marc West, Jose Caldera, Brian Billingsley, Jim Tomaney,
Head of Blockchain Chief Product Officer Chief Technology Officer Chief Marketing and Products Officer Chief Revenue Officer Chief Operating Officer

05 Diebold Nixdorf 13 Entersekt 21 Geobridge 29 Interac 37 nanopay


BREAKING DOWN THE HYPE IMPERSONATION WITH EASE EXPERTS ONLY RACE TO THE FINISH LINE NOW OR NEVER
Douglas Hartung, Sherif Samy, Donna Gem, Oscar Roque, Nicko van Someren,
Head of Global Software Innovation SVP North America Vice President of KEES™ AVP, Mobile Products and Platform Chief Security Officer
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DAVID UHRYNIAK CROWE HORWATH LLP
Head of Blockchain, Crowe Horwath LLP

Plethora
of
powers

T
he instinct that we need to be the global adoption and use of decentralized
doing more on the blockchain cryptocurrencies.
front is right. In particular, we
must develop our consumer payments Blockchain is already driving a swift evolution
capabilities to respond to emerging consumer in payment mechanisms. In the peer-to-peer
demands, including speed, security, efficiency (P2P) arena, blockchain can overcome some
and convenience. of the limitations of today’s most popular
money transfer apps. For example, many of
In terms of hype, blockchain technology rivals the existing apps are extremely vulnerable to
just about any technological advancement of cyberattacks. Blockchain can reduce the risk
the last several decades. Its purported powers by providing immutability, security, privacy and
are astronomical, ranging from making transparency.
financial services and products available to
everyone in the world and eliminating the Blockchain is also driving advances in
need for financial services intermediaries, to business-to-business (B2B) payments. A

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blockchain-powered payment system can Any doubts about whether blockchain is Our investments in blockchain should be
cut the settlement time of a bank-to-bank gaining traction in our sector should be accomplished through focused market and
transfer from up to three days to mere minutes erased by the rapid rate at which larger • Increase the budget allocation for new technology partnerships and collaboration,
while eliminating the costs associated with financial services organizations are launching technologies. in addition to dedicated resources. These
third-party clearing agencies. The technology blockchain-backed payment systems — Visa investments should be made with the
can also provide automatic verification and and Mastercard — and filing related patent • Update aged core systems to handle new expectation that we will not see any significant
execution of payments via smart contracts, applications for certain blockchain functions technologies. monetary return within the next three years.
expediting the process even more. and processes — American Express and Rather, we should make them as part of a
JPMorgan Chase. Bank of America already • Increase speed to market with new strategy to stay apace, and enable quick
In both the consumer and business areas, holds almost 50 patents related to blockchain offerings. deployment as required to satisfy consumer
blockchain offers notably enhanced security, technology, including approximately 20 and competitive demands.
which is critical in a time when the public has specifically covering payment systems. These
a fundamental lack of trust in the financial organizations are reducing their own costs
services industry. Its powerful encryption and risks, and are positioning themselves to
and lack of a central authority or database become gatekeepers to essential technology
makes transactions nearly impenetrable for down the road. This could force us to incur
hackers. Blockchain also ensures privacy licensing fees in the future.
in transactions, restricting access to the
details to approved parties. In addition, it To be frank, though, blockchain technology
is highly auditable. Its systems are built on is not yet on our road map due to several
decentralized, distributed ledgers where obstacles, including budget and infrastructure
transactions are inalterable once confirmed limitations and a resistance to innovation. To
and validated by the network. All transactions put it on the map, we must:
leave a traceable audit trail.

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DOUGLAS HARTUNG DIEBOLD NIXDORF
Head of Global Software Innovation, Diebold Nixdorf

Breaking
down
the hype

T
here’s a lot of hype with framework for creating, storing and validating
blockchain technology, but few different forms of data — and resulting in
use cases currently in production. endless opportunities. At this time, most
Why? Because, we read about the rise and blockchain technologies are not ready for the
fall of bitcoin pricing, and it is a common mass market and require a lot more research
misconception that bitcoin and blockchain and testing.
are the same thing when, in fact, they are
two different concepts: one built upon the First, we need to simply separate the hype
other. Blockchain is a technology whereby from the reality. Blockchain is essentially a
information or transactions involving two distributed database in which transactions
individuals or entities can be captured and are written into a block of data containing
stored in a decentralized system. Bitcoin other transactions, and these blocks are linked
is basically an application that utilizes this together — hence, the “chain” — and stored
distributed ledger technology. However, in a ledger. This is where the entire ledger
blockchain extends beyond the world of is saved on multiple computers, which is a
cryptocurrencies and generates a technology

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distributed ledger technology system. Changes Bitcoin is the most recognized form of a capabilities. What volume of payments can the financial services and retail markets,
to the ledger are accepted when a majority of cryptocurrency. Tracking cryptocurrency be handled by the system, and how long will it including open banking, artificial intelligence
the ledgers agree, and the record cannot be transactions is one early application that is take to populate the status of the transactions (AI), machine learning, the Internet of Things
altered. Certain aspects of distributed ledger made possible through distributed ledger across the network? And, most importantly, (IoT), improving security through the use
technology are being used for insurance and technology. But, fundamentally distributed before we start investing, we should be able to of biometrics while improving the client
some very specific investment banking, which ledger technology is about two parties clearly articulate how blockchain technology experience, etc. With most companies facing
are typically higher value but lower frequency agreeing to some action: I give you a bitcoin solves a specific problem, or takes advantage resource constraints, it probably makes more
use cases. The use cases specific to payments in exchange for USD, and if I agree to take of a specific opportunity, in a manner that sense to focus attention on the technology
and retail banking are less obvious. your stuff out of a locker and buy it, the is better, cheaper, faster and at larger scale trends most likely to affect the business in the
funds transfer begins. That action is initiated than how the problem is being addressed relatively near future, where the technology
When implementing blockchain, something automatically with the consensus function today. Without a clear articulation of the and use cases can be clearly defined and
you should ask yourself is, “What problem tracking to ensure that the transaction is not problem and why blockchain leads to the best articulated. Again, think about what problem
can I solve with blockchain technology that I changed or tampered with. solution, we’re just pounding nails with our you are actually trying to solve, and will it
couldn’t address as effectively without the use new hammer. benefit your business model? Or, even… the
of the technology?” To many, blockchain may Before you can talk about a blockchain project, consumer experience your customers are
look like the new hammer, and every problem there are few fundamental questions that Blockchain is a very specific design pattern, demanding.
looks like a nail when in reality it is not. There need to be addressed. First, one needs to be but there are some significant drawbacks that
is a need to cut through the hype and look at able to explain specifically what is contained need to be addressed before it can become Or, if we just want to short-circuit the
the capabilities of the underlying technology. in the block that is being written in the ledger. a more mainstream technology platform discussion, we can just ask, “Exactly how
For near-term deployment, a distributed ledger One also needs to be able to articulate how for transactions at scale. It is highly energy- is this blockchain use case General Data
needs to solve a new problem, or solve an consensus is assured across the nodes intensive, and transactions are not posted to Protection Regulation (GDPR)-compliant?”
old problem in a better way. Those use cases participating in the blockchain network and the multiple ledgers quickly enough to satisfy That should buy time to go do the hard work
are non-obvious. For example, the number who controls those nodes, whether public the needs of a payments platform at scale. of defining the appropriate use cases where
of transactions per second successfully or private or some hybrid. There are also a blockchain may be of value.
completed by Visa and how quickly, versus number of use cases being thought through And, most important from an enterprise
the velocity and timeliness of payments via related to payments, and initiatives across the perspective, there are a number of technology
blockchain. globe are now focused on instant payment trends that are currently affecting both

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AMADOR TESTA EMAILAGE
Chief Product Officer, Emailage

More than
just a
database

I
n a similar way that blockchain helps eliminating theft, combined with the potential
ensure the security of transactions, we to increase the speed and efficiency of
leverage the power of our consortium transactions, makes it an appealing prospect.
network to segregate positive signals Essentially, the blockchain is a database just
associated with good consumers and negative like any other, but with a few unique qualities
signals associated with fraudster activity. This that make it very interesting to people fighting
feat could not be accomplished in a siloed fraud in online transactions.
database environment. Digital banking and
payments services are rapidly developing, and Of course, most everyone is aware of its
the security that underpins them must keep use by digital currencies, but it can also be
up with the speed and openness of the new utilized in other financial segments, lending an
services. approach and methodology that can serve as
a foundation for fraud prevention capabilities.
Blockchain is a great technology, and bursting These capabilities include validation of all
with enormous potential. Its potential for parties, which helps keep everyone — and their

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money — safe. While it adds an extra layer of compared to the number of companies who
security, it cannot detect or predict fraud or reported fraud. So, instead of a black-and-
criminal behavior on its own. There will always white approach, we achieve a fraud rate. This
be a need to ensure that the human beings rate isn’t determined by one transaction, but
who make and authorize payments can be the combination of several. Today’s fraud
trusted. patterns are evolving much too quickly for
human-coded, rules-only systems to operate
As I previously mentioned, we actually use a effectively.
very similar concept to blockchain tech in our
current offering. An example of this is utilizing This network approach, which is validated,
consortium signals and crowdsourced data to confirmed and monitored by many, ensures the
validate events and identities instead of relying accuracy of both the data and our intelligence
on single-factor feedback. — which is essentially what blockchain offers,
all things considered.
When fraud cases are reported to our
network, we consider the number of times
and transactions where the email address
was used by how many distinct companies

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SHERIF SAMY ENTERSEKT
Senior Vice President of North America, Entersekt

Impersonation
with
ease

A
ny bank knows that its customers’ to visit a branch or prove possession of a
money isn’t safe in its accounts government issued-identity, even for loans.
unless it has good security in As finance moves away from the physical
place. Unfortunately, a trend is now emerging and into the virtual realm, fraudsters
in which fraudsters don’t even need to are capitalizing on the anonymity of the
impersonate a real person in order to steal web to get their hands on banks’ money.
from banks. They simply create a fictional Mobile capture technology provider Mitek
identity and apply for credit in that user’s predicts that 2018 will see 150 million new
name. How is this possible? account opening fraud attempts at financial
institutions, up from 80 million last year.
First of all, remote (online or mobile) account
opening is crucial to achieving scale in most In countries like the United States, where there
consumer businesses in the digital age. is no strict national identity system in place,
Wherever regulation allows it, banks are it’s not difficult to make up a plausible name
waiving the requirement for new applicants and address with a rarely used or made up

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Social Security number with which to apply Insisting that credit applicants visit a brick- attestation recorded on a cryptographically Self-sovereign identity systems show
for credit. Synthetic identity fraud entails the and-mortar branch improves security, but secured distributed ledger. much promise as an everyday use case for
fraudster putting together a fake persona, and makes for the kind of second-rate customer distributed ledger technology. However, the
giving that persona credibility over months or experience that 21st century banking users When the individual then applies for, say, a success of such systems would be dependent
years by transacting small amounts in their simply will not tolerate. This is especially true mobile phone contract, he would instruct on the buy in from large organizations,
name, [therefore] establishing a history that considering that in-person identification as the mobile operator to check the legitimacy governments and online service providers,
enables the persona to qualify for credit. Once a fraud prevention measure is designed to of the information in his application via the seeing the business benefit of a distributed
a worthwhile limit of credit has been granted, protect the bank, not the applicant. Instead of distributed ledger. The mobile operator would approach and making the effort to develop a
whether in the form of a card or a loan, the inconveniencing the already unsympathetic be able to check the ledger for an attestation liability framework for public attestations.
fraudster spends or “busts out” up to that limit customer, banks should start thinking about of the individual’s information by a reliable
and disappears, abandoning the synthetic how they can draw on technology to simplify party — in this case the individual’s bank.
identity. things. For example, as machine learning The individual would be able to select only
improves, banks will have to improve the the relevant facts from the group of attested
This type of theft is difficult for banks identity verification to filter the genuine information to be shared with the mobile
to prevent in the absence of definitive, applicants from the synthetics. operator, and, at the moment of sharing,
government-managed identity records. In provide consent for that sharing in real time.
the U.S., the government has established The emergence of what is referred to as “self-
the Consent-Based Social Security Number sovereign identity” may offer a solution. In
Verification (CBSV) service to assist in this countries that do not have robust, government-
regard, but the service doesn’t currently allow hosted [ID] systems to rely on, independent
for the cross-checking of an identity with a identity networks based on blockchain can
Social Security number without the consent be established. An individual would then get
of the individual under investigation — and, a group of facts about themselves (e.g. that
incredibly enough, this consent must be given they are over 18, or that a scanned passport
via surface mail. belongs to them) attested by a widely trusted
third party, such as their bank, and get this

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MARC WEST FISERV
Chief Information Officer, Fiserv

Intelligent
innovation

B
lockchain holds the potential to fuel functionality of Fiserv solutions, as well as
business growth by improving the investment in third-party companies, such as
transparency, auditability, security Chain, that are dedicated to the application of
and speed of financial transactions and blockchain in financial services.
applications.
With our commitment to purposeful
Those characteristics are fundamental innovation, we are focused on leveraging
reasons why Fiserv cares about this blockchain not just for the sake of delivering
technology. Along with leading institutions buzzworthy capabilities, but also to deliver
and industry participants, we are actively impactful and meaningful value to our clients.
engaging to define practical applications of Fiserv has completed active investigation
blockchain that drive value for our clients and of blockchain protocols, a deep dive to fully
their customers. This includes investment in explore underlying technology and evaluate if
our own research and development efforts, promises would live up to the hype. This has
focused on how blockchain can enhance the included an exploration of how blockchain

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could be best applied to specific sectors and Data is an increasingly valuable commodity, No matter how it’s used or which applications
needs across financial services. and the ability of blockchain to record and are still on the horizon, blockchain has
1. Identification: Blockchain offers compelling maintain data is a significant asset on which transformative potential for those who dig
We are actively engaging with clients to “test capabilities to both accurately identify financial service providers can capitalize. And in and understand it. Fiserv is taking a long-
and learn” through working pilots and proofs customers and protect their identities the benefits can go beyond that. The security term, purposeful approach to finding the most
of concept in areas that matter to them. These across many types of banking services and features work toward enhancing confidence valuable areas, and smart ways, to leverage
include identity management, lending, smart digital transactions. in the network and driving cost benefits in the value that blockchains create.
contracts, data sharing and payments. We areas such as exchanges. The real-time
are also mapping how blockchain protocols 2. Lending: Blockchain, by its design, has the functionality may lead to shorter — and less
will ultimately underpin other critical areas of potential to significantly advance lending costly — settlement cycles on trade day. The
technology, such as biometrics, cybersecurity processes and workflows — specifically by characteristics of blockchain can open the
and fraud prevention. Our fundamental improving the management and ownership doors to multiple applications that, in turn,
perspective is that blockchain is an evolution of documents, and the trading of can position financial institutions to achieve
of current technologies, not a revolution. information between parties. Blockchain- growth.

based smart contracts will play a major


Practically, blockchain is a network that lets role in this space.
participants transfer ownership of digital
assets and then records those transactions 3. Data recordation and sharing: Blockchain
on the ledger in real, or near-real, time. All the protocol offers a significant improvement
participants have access to the ledger, making in creation of “immutable” data recordation
it a single source of truth for all transactions. and “single source of the truth.” The
While blockchain has the potential to play a combination of clearly evidenced
role in many areas of financial services, we’ve ownership and transfer tracking through
honed in on three core areas with significant sophisticated encryption offers numerous
potential for near-term impact: identification, improvement opportunities over current
lending and data recordation and sharing. approaches.

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DONNA GEM GEOBRIDGE
Vice President of KEES™, Geobridge

Experts
only

W
ell, we are certainly familiar is still rooted in legitimate experience with
with all the buzz associated general cryptography and key management.
with blockchain. It’s really
funny that you should ask about this today, Blockchain offers some efficiencies for
because over the weekend, I had seen some interdependent applications and services
updates from acquaintances on LinkedIn who with specific use cases, but there are a few
had posted that they now possessed some reasons we’re not more focused on it at this
type of blockchain expert certification. Seeing time. First, this is an advanced cryptographic
their new certifications caused me to search technique. Most companies do not have in-
and determine what was involved in obtaining house cryptographic expertise. Deploying an
such a certification for myself. I located advanced cryptographic technique is akin to
several different offerings. The general gist one of your Air Force friends obtaining access
of these collective offerings was to download for you to have your private Cessna pilot fly
about four hours of course material, and then I you from New York to L.A. in an F-16. Your
could take an online test at the end to become private pilot may figure out how to get it off
“certified.” Suffice it to say, the real expertise

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the ground, but there’s a strong likelihood that computing are considered to be a ticking time Consequently, the focus needs to be on
he will crash before he gets you to L.A. bomb for asymmetric cryptography in general. investing in cryptographic key management
programs and personnel. Once the enterprise
The point is that if we want to invest in the While cryptography is simple to use, as achieves a substantial maturity level for such
utilization of blockchain technology, we evidenced by everyone from three years of a program, it can more efficiently manage
should be experts in standard cryptographic age to 103 years of age using an iPhone — the ebbs and flows of newer cryptographic
technology before attempting to administer they are effectively demonstrating the use techniques, or the immediate obsolescence
more advanced techniques. From here, we of encryption. Managing cryptography is of status quo techniques, because a new
would then be capable of recognizing that a far more challenging. Even the utilization of vulnerability or exploit is published.
particular use case could gain efficiency by National Institute of Standards and Technology
leveraging blockchain as opposed to standard (NIST)-certified algorithms rely upon proper
techniques. handling techniques. Once data is encrypted,
the protection of that encrypted data is entirely
Still, both from a compliance perspective dependent upon the keys used for encryption
as well as a strategic planning perspective, and decryption. If the keys become lost or
there are risks associated with the use in some other way unrecoverable, all data
of blockchain technology, specifically protected by the keys becomes lost. If the keys
with software utilization and asymmetric are compromised either intentionally or by
cryptography. As we know, any cryptography nefarious mechanisms, all the data protected
that is not performed in hardware is subject to by the keys can be compromised.
exploitation of the clear key value. Moreover,
the anticipated advances in quantum

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JOSE CALDERA IDENTITYMIND GLOBAL
Chief Marketing and Products Officer, IdentityMind Global

Identity
in the
online world

W
e recognize that just is a cryptographic hash of a database with
mentioning blockchain in some very unique properties — means,
our content will increase ostensibly, every application that relies on
readership. Others in the industry, perhaps databases could use blockchain technology.
anecdotally, have doubled their company However, it would be nonsensical to do that.
value by just saying they “will be” adopting Databases and data warehouses have been
blockchain technology, and all the investment and will continue to be optimized for real-time
going into initial coin offerings (ICOs) — $6.3 applications that handle very large volumes of
billion in Q1 of 2018 — is going to blockchain- data, like our platform. The use of blockchain
based companies. requires meeting a very specific criterion for it
to make sense.
It is very tempting to announce that we are
ripping out our core technology and replacing I assume that if you are reading this, you
it with a blockchain. We could do that. At the have some basic knowledge of blockchain
end of the day, oversimplifying — a blockchain technology and its use, so I won’t spend any

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time talking about it. Instead, I will talk about consumers and their/our right to own how our requirements would enable the event being Identity ownership, identity proofing and
how blockchain technologies can be utilized in information is used by others. written and therefore compliance. compliance regulation are three key areas
our space, and, ostensibly, by our platform. in our industry where blockchain will be
The biggest question is whether organizations There are several challenges to this approach, meaningful. There are many applications that
IdentityMind works with digital identities. would embrace this approach, [particularly] but perhaps the most difficult, as stated are well-suited and enabled by it. There is also,
Our technology builds and maintains when it is far from known whether a “self- before, would be to convince regulators that unfortunately, too much hype around it. To be
a digital construct that represents an proofed” identity would satisfy regulators. such a trail is self-enforced and evidence quite honest, too many companies are just
identity in the online world. We store these of proper procedure. I suspect that non- trying to ride the hype. Product innovators will
identities in our database. We monitor these This brings me to the flipside of the previous governmental compliance enforcement would do themselves — and the industry — a great
identities’ behaviors to assess the risk of application: how to satisfy regulators. In this find it easier to adopt than governmental favor by thinking well through its application,
the transactions they perform. Based on application the regulatory organizations — regulatory bodies. There are significant and putting a stop to some stakeholders that
this monitoring, we can assess risk and FinTech, financial institutions, etc. — need to incentives for both, but the former would be just want to be part of it for the sake of it.
compliance of dealing with such an identity in present auditors with a trail of information that easier to persuade for adoption than the latter
the context of a financial transaction. represents that a user and their transactions — and rightfully so.
were properly evaluated.
The most common use of blockchain, in our
industry, has been around identity ownership. Recently, I was having this conversation with
It may include an ecosystem in which a partner of ours who is very experienced
providers like IdentityMind can validate pieces with building blockchain applications. He
of an identity and store this validation in a mentioned that a great use of blockchain is
blockchain. The owner of the identity then to use it as an enforcement of regulation,
would have control of the use of the identity meaning events written to the blockchain
and perhaps its proven validity, as attested comply with a set of a requirements that
by trusted third parties. There are a few are vetted prior to the event being recorded.
companies working on this, and every week One can see that if the requirements are the
there seems to be a new one popping up. compliance requirements, then meeting these
The focus of these applications is targeting

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OSCAR ROQUE INTERAC
Assistant Vice President of Mobile Products
and Platform, Interac

Race
to the
finish line

T
he starting pistol has gone off and a disruptive force to keep at arm’s length. At
the marathon for blockchain has Interac, we’ve taken a balanced approach,
just begun. Some have sprinted recognizing it is arguably one of the least
ahead, others have taken a detour and some understood technologies with the potential to
have decided to sit this particular race out change how businesses transact. We’ve had
entirely. But, as any runner knows, a lot can fun mining — pun intended — for opportunities
happen before anyone reaches the finish line. to experiment, to build a lean center of
With a focus on driving value, Interac has excellence, to learn how it works and how
started strong and so far maintains a solid it can potentially broaden our core value
pace, ready and focused for the distance proposition to new and existing business
ahead. networks down the road. Some in our position
might consider blockchain a disruptor, sure,
Blockchain is rightfully part of every payment but we consider it an enabler, given its ability
trends story, and it would be myopic to to transform industries by allowing different
dismiss it as simply an overhyped trend or parties to work together within this new
business network.

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Take a step back for a moment and think using blockchain. Traditionally, these value So, where do we go from here?
about how we work at Interac. Think payment chains required extensive and potentially
fundamentals like real-time, irrevocable, good cumbersome multiparty contracts, limiting With a strong start, grounded in customer
funds, push payments technology and an the ability to scale. With a permissioned value proposition, we will continue our
operational model that’s built on partnerships blockchain network and the use of smart pace and momentum by further building
and collaboration with financial institutions contracts, though, each participant is relatively out the concept with more use cases and
and FinTech. When we overlay the principles known to the network and has the permission pivoting where relevant. With all it’s potential,
and technology of blockchain over our to transact or to see transactions based on blockchain technology will only grow in
payments platforms, we see a lot of synergy. who they are and the role they play, making the importance, and we want to make sure
creation and scaling of the value chains more we’re part of the cohort that’s pushing the
When we began exploring how to leverage straightforward. boundaries on what’s possible.
blockchain, we were very clear to focus first
on customer value propositions and solving With features like these, blockchain can make
real problems rather than on the solution a significant impact on commerce and how
itself. It is critical for organizations to focus industries are fundamentally (re)structured.
on business value first, or risk being caught in It could better enable industry and regulatory
the blockchain hype: a solution looking for a participation for new entrants. As a system
problem. of secure, transparent and irrevocable
transactions shared on a distributed ledger,
One of the most important takeaways for it has the potential to make it easier to do
us has been to focus on the creation of business with a wider and more flexible
new business networks, where previously scope while reducing single-party risk and
independent organizations come together constraints.

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BRIAN BILLINGSLEY MODO PAYMENTS
Chief Revenue Officer, Modo Payments

The
blockchain
bandwagon

B
lockchain is a method to Wherever our business has assets that we
cryptographically secure and need to secure and verify ownership of, and
verify ownership of something. we can’t trust anyone centrally — because
It’s a ledger, and it’s a database. Ledgers and we don’t trust whomever is already there, or
databases used to be hidden away in data there isn’t anyone already there — that’s where
centers — “a cop and a box,” so to speak — but I would be testing, conducting experiments
now they can be hidden in plain sight, without and working with prototypes. So, for instance,
trusting anyone or anything. The assets that if we want to store records of our legal
you store securely and [of which you] verify agreements securely where they can’t be
ownership could be anything: a stock, rights to hacked or modified, and we can prove to the
gold, birth certificates, commodities, shipping whole world precisely when they were stored,
invoices, voting records or virtual cats (yes, blockchain — or any similar secure distributed
really). network — would be great.

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As far as us jumping on the blockchain bandwagon, I don’t feel like it’s the right move for us right We can connect using any standard and any That’s another plug for an interoperability
now. Because we are still early in the evolution of blockchain, there are multiple different blockchains technology, no matter how disparate, using solution, I think.
focusing on solving different problems. Beginning to understand the specific value of blockchain to Modo’s utility for interoperability between
our business is the only valuable investment at this point. We need to start from the beginning and systems. We don’t have to choose — which, Blockchain is not going to take over payments
ask fundamental questions before choosing a specific technology like blockchain. We need be clear by the way, also means that while different — or any other industry — overnight, but
on: blockchain standards fight it out for market companies will start to find important
share, we will be able to grow our business use cases where blockchain solves a real
and switch between the leading solutions. problem: maybe in things like healthcare
[We’ll be able to do that] for as long as there is records, or other places where a central,
• What problem are we looking to solve? not a single standard across the industry. secure database has eluded the market. The
growth opportunities will be in specific and
• Where is trust missing from the market or our business? When it comes specifically to payments, clear use cases that solve known problems
either B2B, business-to-consumer (B2C) or in the market, and particularly where trust
• What elements of our business could benefit from a cryptographically secure audit trail of consumer-to-business (C2B), blockchain is is an issue. Those use cases may be small
ownership?
not yet a great solution for large amounts of to begin with, but they will be anchors of the
volume, nor in sub-second timeframes. Oh, technology and lead to bigger use cases in the
• Are we prepared to experiment, fail and learn from both?
and it’s not clear exactly how the relationship future — all of which is hard to predict.
between cryptocurrencies and fiat currencies
• Can we be confident we’re capable of making those experiments secure?
is going to play out. We should be careful I think the hype is real for blockchain, but the
about going too far with cryptocurrencies and realization that interoperability can change the
ending up with large balances of “wampum.” way financial companies relate to each other
The payments technology that runs fiat and to their customers is just beginning. It is
And, furthermore, we need to be clear that in a very direct way, blockchain is a standard — and
currency payments is 40-plus years old. These important to remember the famous Bill Gates
sometimes standards don’t work out the way you’d hope. The crew over at Modo doesn’t think that
systems are scaled and iron-clad, but working quote: “We always overestimate the change
standardization is the way to create connections between systems, interoperability is. Instead of
with other payment methods or standards, like that will occur in the next two years, and
making you choose a standard and then asking tech to conform to our systems and application
blockchain, is virtually impossible for them. underestimate the change that will occur in
program interfaces (APIs) to that standard, the good folks at Modo let and encourage the companies
the next 10.”
we work with to keep whatever standards we use today and don’t make any changes to our systems.

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NICKO VAN SOMEREN NANOPAY
Chief Security Officer, nanopay

Now
or
never

W
ith blockchain, just like with back at the history of the records, but also
any new technology, there means that complex queries can be rather
is the potential utility, there slow. Being distributed means that every user
is the current utility and then there is the hype. has his own full copy of the ledger under his
What seems to be different about blockchain own control, but also means that he has to
is just how wide the disparity is between these bear the storage and communication costs
three. of replicating all that data. Determining truth
through consensus can be useful when parties
At their heart, blockchain systems are just either do not trust each other or any other
distributed ledgers for recording data in which authority, but it also means that it can be slow
the decision as to the true state of the ledger and cumbersome to achieve agreement on the
is determined by consensus rather than by a current state — and it is always possible that
central authority. Being a ledger rather than no agreement is reached.
a general database means [the technology
is] great when you want to be able to look

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These characteristics mean that, despite the So, what are the use cases for which
huge hype around blockchain, the number blockchain is the best solution? There are a
of use cases for which blockchain is a good few questions that you can ask about a use
solution is limited — and the number for which case to see if blockchain is a good fit: Will
it is the best solution is even smaller. That, multiple, autonomous parties need to add
in turn, means that if you’ve not yet deployed to and query some record of transactions or
blockchain, don’t worry! events? Do these parties distrust each other?
Is there no third party that these parties can
Many companies seem to have started to choose to trust, either implicitly or by contract?
“deploy blockchain technology” without Is it okay if it takes a little while for the parties
knowing what they are going to use it for. to agree on the true state of the record? Is the
While it certainly can be useful to have a total size of the ledger likely to remain fairly
technology team that learns about new tools small? If your answer to all these questions is
before they are needed, one needs to be “yes,” then a blockchain solution may well be
careful not to start with a solution and then best.
go out looking for a problem that fits it. If you
just bought a blender, for example, then you’ll If you answered “no,” then don’t worry about
start making soup even if you really wanted being late to the blockchain party. Just
steak. Instead, it is important to start with because others are doing it doesn’t mean you
your business problems and then find the have to!
right technologies to solve them. Maybe those
solutions use blockchain and maybe they
don’t.

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JIM TOMANEY RENOVITE TECHNOLOGIES
Chief Operating Officer, Renovite Technologies

To trust
or
not to trust

S
ometimes, I feel slightly cynical and that intra-participant trust is required. Some
just describe blockchain as a new of these, such as cryptocurrencies, seek to
generation of database technology. create a parallel payments infrastructure.
Yes, it supports distribution of the data across, Personally, I believe that the really useful
effectively, an infinite number of nodes, where applications of distributed ledger technology
each node is visible to all participants in the will be new peer-to-peer (P2P) trading
service rather than just to the service provider. applications. I recently saw a really innovative
But, then, I have to admit that this distributed Canadian scheme for trading the output of
ledger technology is undoubtedly a useful domestic electricity generation with grid feed-
concept — [particularly] when participants in tariffs. Another use case that could benefit
need to trust each other rather than simply from this technology would be a refresh of
trusting the provider of the database. the domestic property purchase process in
many economies. These processes often
So far, ideas for exploitation of this technology involve chains of home purchases, each
have focused on new use cases [in which] technically separate but linked because each
player is both a seller and a buyer. Crucially,

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in these example cases, the new distributed Renovite stopped making assumptions about
ledger schemes will still access the existing what the future payments landscape would
payments networks rather than replacing look like. The emergence of distributed ledger
them. systems with the requirement to integrate
has validated that approach and proved
Blockchain didn’t exist as a requirement the implementation. Financial services
when our payment switch was architected organizations that want to prepare themselves
in 2015. However, that integration with this for the regular arrival of new payments models
new requirement requires no rework of the must act now to eliminate their dependence
products. We simply need to develop the on legacy platforms, [and that’s] based on
relevant service requests for adding and the assumptions of 20th century payment
retrieving a record for a given ledger, and then requirements.
publish those services to our existing service
library. Doing so makes the services available
to users of the system configuring the
transaction workflows. In this way, Renovite
will be able to integrate blockchains with the
payment infrastructure rather than gambling
on whether blockchain will replace the existing,
established payment systems.

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