JLL: Icke and other conspiracy theorists who propose alien intervention are unfamiliar

with the Mysteries, I suspect, for two reasons: first, they do not have direct experience
of ego death and instruction by the Light comparable to the experience in the
Mysteries, and second, they cannot distinguish the methods and motives of the
Illuminati from the genuine Gnostics. The Illuminati were deranged initiates, who had
deep knowledge of Mystery practices but misused it to acquire social and political
power. The Mystery Schools were not training camps for Illuminati, as Icke believes.
This is a grave error on his part. Due to lack of direct experience, Icke and the others
are unable to realize that adepts of the Serpent Power (Kundalini) were directly
opposed to the Illuminati who made a pact with the reptilian powers. As I have
explained in my articles, we are given Kundalini as the force to repel alien intrusion.
The benign, healing Serpent is not a reptilian entity but an innate component of our
divine biological inheritence. Speculation and research (even research as good as
Icke´s) cannot teach us to make such distinctions. Only direct experience can.

Illuminati were strictly forbidden to participate in the Mysteries, once they had been
detected. In other words, the Illuminati were practitioners of occult sciences (mainly,
imprinting and mind control) who had to be expelled from the Mysteries… but this is
a story (an extremely important story, I might add) of which Icke and the others seem
to be totally ignorant.

Karmapolis: What are the conceptions of heaven and hell in Gnostic terms?

JLL: There is no conception of heaven and hell in Gnostic teachings.

Karmapolis: Clive Prince and Lynn Pycknett in a book called The Stargate
Conspiracy denounce the fact that with the New Age, global manipulation will create
a syncretism (a mix of Buddhism, Hinduism, and the three religions of the Book), a
new one world religion based on old Egyptian cult and the worship of the “Council of
the 9.” In this new religion, we find the book the "Keys of Enoch” and people like
James Hurtak and Andrea Puharich, the order of Melchisedech (that we find also in
the Mormon cult). What do you think about this? Is it another manipulation from the
Archons?

JLL: I think all this is a fantasy shared by people desperate for power and spiritual
status, and some elements of these scenarios may be affected by Archontic deviation.
The challenge in facing the alien Tricksters is to discern what is really deviant and
dangerous, by contrast to mere folly and foolishness. There is a lot of foolishness in
new world order conspiracy theories. There is a lot of spiritual phoniness and pretence
among people who channel “the council of the Nine.” This has been going on for
many years now… The problem here is, the fantasy material is like quicksand: you
just sink into it and you cannot crawl out. With the clear and precise indications given
by Gnostics about the Archons, we can begin to see what is happening in our minds
and correct the madness – although we must do this one by one, individually, for we
cannot correct the madness in the minds of others.

June 2005 Brussels