bar by way of the memorable "he feels interested and seeks to know it's source going down that rabbit hole leads him to the discovery of the encyclopedia Who wanted to create this this new world book bar so the world that or has effective author eventually ended up discovering what he was seeking to discover is the same thing that prompted his investigation to begin with so it's a cyclical return back to the beginning so in this way the impertinent isolation again situate or has the fictive author in the beginning to start an endeavor that all the meanwhile Continues to create itself these poetic objects start to form an existence in reality in the same way that in Thomas Moore's or at least in the Ponz to begin with in the exorcistic utopia is formulating her own conception of the origin story that she has so in that origin story that utopia is showing it's a demonstration of this aesthetics this this static of honest deception as I am as I wanted to argue or at least I wanted to show that it was a bit of a catch hands That her argument about the aesthetic of honest deception is the one where we can apply it not only to the a piss hole from where the channels but also to the earliest potential items as well such as the exorcistic and as it was with you again and he was can you tell whoever argued that the aesthetic of Anna's assumption is also present and working in the alphabet and the quatrain along that's also a damn Ration of the honest the aesthetic of honest Assumption as well so the earliest examples of these pair textual items to occurred in the first addition the hexes 30 alpha bet the quad train all of these are participating in the aesthetic of minus exception just as much as the map is so Elizabeth McCutchen was certainly hitting it right on the head to suggest that the aesthetic of Aalyssa separation is most compact Celine and concentrated in the pencils but it's it's it's carrying it weight throughout the all of those pre-luteal parataxis up you prefer deal with respect to where the appraisal is as well so that that that aesthetic about Sampson is constantly playing with the entirety of the preparatory materials I want to say and he becomes even the access that has a certain degree of stability in this dynamic that is interesting to know so will just all believe that is it is a superscript know or foot but as we progress in to the later additions like the second edition Thomas more there's another appraisal from Thomas more to Peter Giles that even further strengthens this is that a good honest deception to a certain degree then and I'm just talking about like the language to send agreed that I will reinforce by way of the para text the narrative In the main body text to the aesthetic of Anna Sampson is still a plate it's just shifting in its format because the physical contacts the materiality of this commodified book the second vision sort of situated to be this little and Kylie Radion of critical reading the entire Radion in so far as it's a little tiny handbook it's a much smaller in size as compared to its first addition and a model for reading critically we can see in the physical placement of the book this second episode is placed as a post Ludo para tax And the content of this of his soul it is so obviously rain out at didactic structure know how to manual of being a Oclg HQ a kiss a short sighted reader and yet in and in advocating for this sharp sided reader this person who can read with great critical thinking in slow and careful attention you know more is also doing this is that iguana section where he is By all of the ornate and Austin tacious displays of print the book is very big it's got a lot of a lot of reading aids we also have to take into consideration that by this time I'm Thomas Moore Zootopia at Thomas Moore is all the function has it made up considerable name for itself within its readership of the European readers so it's it's already making me get a splash if Robert is able to exploit the market in that regard and reprint an additional That under the direction of Erasmus and to arrest Mrs hope will Gardner Thomas more even more of a good reputation as a literary scholar even though he already had a reputation as a poet he was working in the Tutor court he was a lawyer seems already very well established person but Erasmus want to get a good shit out within the context of Froben as a printer because he and Freeman retired and program word but but he at least for a few years at this point because this is what 1518 is adding on those additional epigrams on the third and fourth Is another piece of the pair text to mediate the balance between inner outer real and fake and it does so by plane with authorship in the program last year program that's my top brother we have Thomas Moore and William Lily no more is Thomas more operating under the role as an author with affective or a Storico as he was in a in in the earlier part attacks the apostles arguably the pomes maybe Whatever annotations your hand in the man by tax now he is functioning as a translator just the translator of these at the gram is that come from the recently printed Palatine in anthology printed in 1497 in Italy I think it's 4097 and Italy is the first time that Greek and the elegy was printed put in for print in the book but it did not include the translation exercises that sort of problem as my type format that was established or so to put forth in a program last month so there's the residual tradition that time That's more is appropriating because the progress my time was a rhetorical exercise that existed in a long tradition before hand it was recently printed within the last 15 years since it is at this point of the new juncture with the new printing strategies and Thomas Moore along with ProBan Rasmus or very well but we were very pretty to how to use this medium in order to do what they wanted to do with it so Thomas more adopts his tradition appropriates the Apple campus addition and makes up his own but only in the fall The translator is not creating at this point is merely verbatim he is merely doing the act of a translator which of course in itself is a lovely and awesome experience but just as a translator or direct correspondence and a comparison between his and Lillys to gauge whether someone got closer at fun tennis or who knows what principle of translation is put forth at this point whether Lily and more we're trying to translate for the sake of returning to the source at this point based on the argument of translation in the alphabet This active translation is it is clearly just an active translation but it's a motivations are in clear the principles on which it functions are unclear where a bit of an obfuscated pro right now thereby once again blurring the distinction between Anna and the outer the original and ancient are you at DP innovative and what is just imitated but we noticed that at least I think it's the problem is mine at 12 and 18 or something of original epigrams translation exercises nonetheless just eat steak of course but the authorship attribution that's present in the third and fourth additions in a program as my tire is apparently when compared to Ology much different so those authority or attribution discrepancies amount to another degree weather it was intentional or not of liked Thomas more morning A revision whether or not it was Thomas Moore who did this is kind of out of the question or at least something that we can't discern or we can say is that because Thomas Moore is author function the slats right to top the epigram but the problem is my list that people are going to associate Thomas for his name with added the changes that they noticed between the anthology and the epigrams and the program or just put the presentation in the Poconos my time as it is and short translations of the translations even though there was this discrepancy in a 3B mission on account of an account for him Perhaps if we can entertain for a second that it wasn't an accident and Thomas more intentionally broke tradition of a boreal attribution of accurate of the real education we can perhaps and say that it's it's a get a foreshadowing of the transition that is to come for what precedes the program that's my tie the epigrams and during which drains are in epigrams will notice that transition from translator to poet and the movement across the threshold from the translator and a poet is one that is done by imitation so this movement from translator Greek anthology of those epigrams that occurs when there is a single up a gram that takes place in the epic them onto them so when this is presently by itself that's just as we understand it Thomas Moore placing the epigrams from the Greek anthology into a new context of the app is on the programs and of course there's also took different contacts because Thomas Moore did not create all of these epigrams at once for the purpose of utopia but they were rather a collection of times unrelated writing project We don't have too much information on that but we know from the correspondences between Moore and the restless and then harassed us in general some of it located in his letter to program and in other places throughout the preparatory letters that more had been working on these epigrams throughout his life so of course they took various contexts throughout their textual life but now being reformatted reconfigured I think translation format is what David Carlson Khalid translation format from bed internal life of the ephemeral manuscript circulation to The extern all printed form for everyone to see where everyone is now seeing the Thomas Morris Avenue a grams or Thomas Moore is ever grams are not cricket don't you have a grams of the admittedly we do see that it times the authority electrocution will note from the Greek it will at times also know that it's from unknown but again these attributions are often incorrect not Thomas more begins to cross the threshold from translator to poet by way of imitation when she produces multiple rib visions Same home in different shades so he is as Emily rentals as making the same thing as saying the different thing without really changing the sense imitation into in a Bashan but it could be difficult to say that he is either translator or imitator or innovator in the program as my tack and Martha and all the principles that are sort of surrounding that with respect imitation the principles of imitation art are a little suspect because we don't know for trying to imitate or translated based on And the desire to return add phone test to the source of the classics because we love the classics or whether we should cast off the classics the classical world and try to train take her own stance of appropriation in aquarium authorship is in my eye on this bitch and so that is the attention that I see you Tokyo straddling this I think it can be articulated within the context of text to Audi We usually are able to use Jeanettes language of para text to describe the organization of texting you know what is Texan what's round tax that's it and doing so we take for granted that it's hierarchical I think utopia is strongly inverse of that as I've sort of tried to show the aesthetic of honest deception that exists that occurs in the Hecks aesthetic Alpha but the quad train pass so even though the aesthetic of Anna's exception is sort of changing from a first second third and fourth edition it's still present and it still working even when we get to the third fourth edition one is that a Kiwanis exception is playing more with the game off the ship and what kind of author is so cool person Thomas Moore is this an author and so far is is only appropriate and things in the passing lane to be as they are or is he an offer in so far as he's able to not be the translator I am going through that little threshold of invitation places it in the blurred speaker again so that that porous so with the text then it's really difficult to say which is subordinated if the parataxis in all cases with its aesthetic about assumption is always going to take a backseat to the main body text him And body text as it's interacting with the para text because if we do the aesthetic pharmacist absent in the para tax it seems to have a more porous structure between text para text so this dynamic is rather fluid this is shown because we see in the main by text that the issue of who the fuck do we believe a near raider the author all of that Is that the narrative only works if we pre-suppose one of the other right the entire narrative of both one and two needs to do with all that shit so bullshit and book one and two because Thomas was at the port author who is only a reporter for the game falls starts to move into some slippery slippery ice when dealing with all the shipping box wanted to sell all of that is sort of contingent or that sort of thing is the foundation upon which the narrative of book wanted to progress because you need to at least be able to except Sake of the storytelling that there is an author but there is a reporter and that we see on the page or as they are just except it for the fucking moment everything that proceeds and book one into about utopia is it is really contingent upon that first principle of authorship never return ship reporters so that is the best seems to be the critical issue which circumscribes is the Though the text will life of utopia and within this circumscribed to text while life of utopia is not a hierarchical displacement of text to pair text relationship but rather a porous fluid into her dynamic text into text text para text text text text Ed Lee text all of that is more porous and anything and now we get to go to Toronto and all that good Well then seems that the the anti- humus additions of utopia in those first five additions were situated in something if we're just trying to tell a literary merit just trying to tell a narrative about history which was so often I want to do then we can describe the production of the composition and dissemination of utopia in the infamous. As something similar to the tie bar or be negative one Waze And how it deals with the Santa bees the pertinent oscillations that are occurring in the aesthetic of Aalyssa Sampson as I talked about in the exorcistic that at least I don't know if it occurs be on the exorcistic oscillations also occurs in Thomas Topia through the seemingly occurs with whatever the fuck they're called the intellectual society Electro society wants to create this fictional world so they gather together and then I gather together in a loose term grab something similar to the arrest me and circle sending correspondences to one another maintaining the fictional narrative of utopia in it and he was additions for the sake of tricking people in it in this context of utopia where is in and he was pretty good bar I don't member why but the intellectuals formed a hereditary tradition Where the generations to follow would continue piecing together the fictional narrative to put in the form of a encyclopedias right side it's not a travel log like Thomas Moore is a utopia it's got a different sense of believability that rests upon the air of Solomon Cyclopedia demand it it's own authority and respect at the time where is the travel logs in utopia as a genre it what is not entirely new with respect Contacts you know product of the times because the New World exploration was occurring within the half century before I in in its various forms of conversation however small or large this colonization and Deavors the boys productions were also coming out of travel logs and not only with the travel logs retellings in the form of verbal narrative of the rematch rematch cities this new world that people were looking bad and there's this new expiration was it was fucking puppet show was nothing Cyclopedia the Thomas Moore was able to rest easy on as Source of credibility for the veracity of his narrative it's it's better to travel logs. It's that he's able to to rest and that's the credibility there in lies the at least the contextual framing to add veracity to his narrative and so with his intellectual society him and Tori and they create this world to operate under the principles of subjective idealism so all of the things that exist are merely reactive objects reactive manifestations of what someone is thinking Write something similar to Barclays subjective idealism and that's all of cystic empiricism I think it's that whole line whatever is the reduplicate word this fictional existence operates with her principles of subjective idealism teacher is something that crosses over the threshold from the inner world of fictionality into the X tear your world of reality because locations start popping up in the real world according to this effect Or has or has I think her through the grapevine of one of the first inaugural patient into the external world in the architecture archaeological excavation in the second father was present for the second crossing from the internal to the external manifestation of physical realization with the queens in the cold towards the end of this narrative or has affective Arthur is telling us that are yummy So it goes from entirely different world from from the external world into the internal world vice versa by way of imitation and all the meanwhile playing with the game of them permanent oscillations that read direct the cyclical pattern of production so in the case of utopia pattern of production takes the form of the parents actual duplications Very Asians in different languages of a different pair text so different additions in the English for example with Robinson in those 19 1515 additions I have a different ways to strengthen or challenge the negative that is present or is really just present in all four of those early lead additions one of the funny ways in which route Robinson further carries out the joke of utopia is through the marginal note it is translation of the bishop When he says that a bishop we actually designate an identity to this anonymous Bishop Moore's pencils so there is there's a funny way in which the world that exists internally in the fiction of you Topia sort of crosses over the threshold into the external world because the bishop supposedly was seeking for the utopia want to be the best above you go get whatever and that's just a literary joke right so I'm saying is crossing from the internal to the X ternal but because It's only existing in its literary game despite the fact that it's crossing over multiple revisions it's it's the self contained within its literary that's within a text well the guy should say so it's self contained game in the punctuality is always bleeding now externally and all the meanwhile in its X internal circumscribed life or text Valatie is regenerating paired texts through new additions new pair tax in a new languages have a new context in there for new meanings What time and that's not to say that it is constantly filling up and always take it in but it's also you know with the prospective addition letting go of some of this I don't know some of the previous printers residual signature rate so that may sort of still be present because I don't know if any of those first four printers included updated and a Tatian or a correction And under the direction of whatever it takes for critic all the subsequent additions adopted the new spelling band of the residual of the previous editor and printer will sort of still kind of be present on the steps conditions that have adopted that seems weird spelling and then of course needless to say also will carry the residual of whoever originally wrote that what is at stake As I understand it is not just standard understanding of Texan Texan reality but also authorship authorship cannot really have a stable or firm we can't fix any stable principles at least when considering it within the context of these early days of printing then again for utopia what's at stake for Topia is that it's not exactly written by Thomas more of a first to say that I mean No doubt great big day out on everything else that is not called out to credit given to him as an author fusing small to medium doubt when considering his status as an author/translator but all that to say he had a really big hand in those pieces mentioned alone And of course maybe some other other but we cannot leave out nor can we go to Ross with it be remiss to forget and I think we have our best and have been to relegate the remaining authors not just to the sidelines maybe I can say we really get it their responsibility the roles of the sideline of the role we relegated our analysis of their role to the sidelines for like 500 years and as a result letters In the status of authorship are you Topia and I'm not saying we take anything away from Thomas more I'm just saying if there is enough room at the table and always has been for all of the other offers to come and sit down with Thomas more when discussing utopia saying I had a hand in that as well Thomas Moore can you pass a little bit of this Thomas was like yeah well I don't mean body text one and two and a route is a pencil and Ralph Robinson is like yeah bitch but you didn't even do it in English I had to wait until that Henri ass bitch with dad that his butt Until I can translate into a language that was being standardized and it's own country yeah and all the other offers by the way did you say I did just turn a translator into author I was also including all the other authors as the people who wrote poetry in those first few additions printers as well I can consider them an out toward great I am a Man I so want to steak is it text Roni all the shit and then with the Topia Comb