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ATOM Diy module


 debe ·  Oct 14, 2014

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Oct 14, 2014 Thread starter #1

debe
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Here is how to build your own ignition module to replace points
& coil in a magneto type system in small engines. Atom modules
went out of production in about 2005, so reverse engineerd one
to find the value of the components. The 2SD1071 was the key to
finding a suitable switching transistor. These I got from Ebay for
$8 for 10 freight free.
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Oct 14, 2014 Thread starter #2


These are the original instructions. And a dismantled one.

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Oct 14, 2014 #3

K I think that module is basically this one:


http://www.amazon.com/Mega-Fire-Ignition-Module-
UNIVERSAL/dp/B001OK9ZFG
KeepItSimpleStu
pid There are still many available sources.
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Oct 14, 2014 Thread starter #4


The cost of the parts to build this are less than$5.
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Oct 14, 2014 #5

Debe, how does this work? The electronic ignition units I'm
familiar with, connect to both the points and the coil, using the
points as a switch to fire the coil. Your unit appears to disconnect
sign216 the points entirely.
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Oct 14, 2014 #6

S Hi, I have a question about these 'Atom' modules. On the one


page shown, there are different color modules, any idea what the
difference is between them? It says ignition timing, how would
shortbus= the schematic change for different color modules? And thank you
Well-Known Member for posting the schematic!
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Oct 14, 2014 #7

W shortbus= said: 

Hi, I have a question about these 'Atom' modules. On the one page
Wade Hassler shown, there are different color modules, any idea what the difference
Member is between them? It says ignition timing, how would the schematic
change for different color modules? And thank you for posting the
schematic!

The values of R2/R3/C1 will change the delay between the


primary voltage reaching (?)volts and Q1 cutting off, which causes
a spark in the secondary.
Spark-timing is thus set to a specific time after the motor reaches
a specific position (and velocity.)
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Oct 15, 2014 Thread starter #8

They are wired across where the points & condencer go. The
module polarity will depend on the ign pulse polarity, if it doesn't
work connected one way just reverse the conections of the
module. The switching transistor must be insulated from the
heatsink when constructing, to allow reverse conecting. Magneto
condencers can vary in capacity .15 to.25uf & are atleast 400v.
Wrong values will cause point burning.
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Oct 15, 2014 Thread starter #9

For those interested there is quite a lot about Atom ign modules
in US Patent 4,163,437 Aug 7,1997. That's where I initialy found
the circuit, but there was no component values. And the switching
debe transistor was custom made for Atom. For reliability i still had to
Active Member add the Mosorb 15KE200A (IN6303A) 200v spike protector.
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Oct 16, 2014 #10

Like it, a few scrap box parts and a working mower, I saved that in
my archives.

dr pepper I had a mower with a substantially bodged ignition, was done to


Well-Known Member cut one lot of grass but ended up doing 10 years.
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Mar 16, 2017 #11

T how do i adjust resistors to make brown or yellow module like the


Nova 2 or equivelent?
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Mar 16, 2017 #12

Welcome to ETO, tysman!

This is a rather old thread.


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Mar 16, 2017 #13

T how do i message debe?

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Mar 16, 2017 Thread starter #14

This is the circuit of a Brown module that I pulled apart.

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Have not seen a Yellow one to dismantle yet.


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Mar 17, 2017 #15

T thanks for the schematic, is the brown module same as yellow?


also will the brown module work with saws that rev 7,000 - 10,000
rpm like the nova 2 and rapid fire does? im adding these modules
tysman to homelite saws like sez or XL12 and an XL76 that has dead blue
Member coil that im replacing with points coil and adding module to get
spark
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Mar 17, 2017 Thread starter #16

Got no idea if they are the same as I haven't had any to pull apart.
Those modules here in Australia if you can get them cost around
$30 each. Ive already spent $90 on modules pulling them apart to
debe find the values.
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Mar 17, 2017 #17

T ok no problem, so how are you getting values are you measuring


the transistor or disassembling the transistor to measure values?

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Mar 17, 2017 Thread starter #18

The three modules I pulled apart were constructed the same,


using the same switching transistors. The only variations I could
see were different resistance values & slightly diferent capacitor
debe values. I mainly stuck with the Red module circuit as it suited my
Active Member Lawn mowers & Outboards. The modules are getting hard to find
now as its 10Yrs since they stoped producing them. The Nova
modules proved to be unreliable on some outboards.
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Mar 17, 2017 #19

T I see now, the black area was a film resistor on a ceramic


substrate. I wonder if the Nova is similar. I might wait till one of
them quit working then I will take it apart if I find anything will let
tysman you know. For now I will build the brown module and test
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hopefully it works like the Nova 2 if I cant find that tranistor is
there an equivelant that will work?
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Mar 17, 2017 Thread starter #20


I have tried quite a few transistors, but reliability was an issue. I
found the 2SD1071 was the most reliable.
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