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DECEMBER 1972 Vo I. I - No. I
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OF THE EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION, INC.
OFFICERS
PRESIDENT VICE PRESIDENT
E. E. HILBERT J. R. NIELANDER, JR.
8102 LEECH RD. P. O. BOX 2464
UNION, ILL. 60180 FT. LAUDERDALE, FLA. 33303
SECRETARY TREASURER
RICHARD WAGNER NICK REZICH
BOX 181 4213 CENTERVILLE RD.
I.YONS, WIS. 53148 ~OCKFORD, ILL. 61102
ON THE COVER
Herb Harcom, EAA 33569, Buzzards Roost, Route I, Inola, Oklahoma 74036
and his Fairchi Id FC-2. Herb had the big bird assembled for fit before
covering. The aircraft is now a treasured part of the EAA Air Education
Museum collection at Hales Corners, Wisconsin. The FC-2 is displayed in
American Airways, Colonial Division, colors and markings and has an immacu
late Model A pickup parked alongside ready to pick up a mail bag a life
sized mannikin is taking from the plane's baggage compartment.
This FC-2 is NC-3569, Serial No. 35 and is powered by a 200 h.p. Wright
J5-C "Whirlwind". It was manufactured under A.T.C. HIO at Farmingdale,
Long Island in November of 1927 and was sold to Curtiss Flying Service in
Chicago. It was later sold to Interstate Airways and was used on the
Chicago-Atlanta route during 1928 and 1929. Interstate later was absorbed
by American Airways.
There may be sleeker and much faster aircraft, but the stately
old FC-2 gives nothing away in character.
I was very pleased with the sincerity shown by those EAA Antique
and Classic aircraft enthusiasts who attended the general meeting
held in Haedtler Hal I here at EAA Headquarters on November 18th,
1972.
The EAA Antique and Classic Division was establ ished about a
year ago. Its purpose was to select leadership within the EAA
Sport Aviation movement whose aviation interests I ie in this area
EAA members of I ike interest who could then, through organizational
work expand their activities and interests.
I would I ike to thank past President Dave Jameson for his help
in getting this Division started. As you know, Dave is also Vice
President of the EAA Air Museum Foundation. This in itself can be
more than a ful I time endeavor - and this division of responsibi I ity
has added another leader to aviation's team. I am sure all in atten
dance were pleased with EAA Antique and Classic President Buck Hi 1
bert's presentation and acknowledge his past and present enthusiasm.
The planning for the Division cal Is for our own publ ication.
First a monthly newsletter, then as we grow, so wi I I the publ ica
tion. This wi I I be our means of communication within the Division.
Suggestions are col icited as to contents but we plan Type Club News,
activities coverage, feature articles on airplanes and people, and
most important, "Hot Li ne" news items about what affects our fly i ng
and our airplanes.
The dues money, then, wi II be used for the publ ication and
mai I ing costs, the identity items of patch, card and decals, sup
port of the parent EAA administration staff and ideals, and the
EAA Air Education Museum. The $10.00 dues wi I I be supplemented
by fly-in revenue, donations and other fund raising projects yet to
come.
~~ INUTES OF THE ,C,t!N L'l, L BUS t4ESS ~1E E T I N G OF ANTIQUE CLASS IC Ai RCRAF T, INC.
A meet :llg of He Ant i que and Class ic D:v is lon c f EAP, wa s called
to o rder a t EAA Headquarters in Frankl i n, Wiscons in a t 10 : 00 November
18, 19720 Tre open i ng address wa s made by Paul Po be re zny describing
goa ls of the d ; v is!on wi th i n the EAA . Also A+ th is t i me he expl ained
the reasons fo r re si gnat ion of the past Div iS Ion Pr esi dent Dave
Jameso n . Mr, J ameson spoke shortly t hanking the members for the
past cooperat ion and giving words at encouragement on s uppo r t i ng the
new Pres ident-Elect . At this po i nt , the President-Elect, Mr. Hilbert,
gave a short summary of h i s pe r sonal hopes and amb i t ion s for the con
tinuat ion of the Antique and Class ic Divi si on . At t h i s point, Mr.
Hilbert asked for suggestio ns and comments fr-om the floor for dis
cuss ion . Many of thos e present had excel lent comment s 8fld s uggest ions.
Evander Britt spoke short ly - as he always does!!!
The first order of business after returning from lunch was the
election of our officers and Board of Directors. Evander Britt
chairmaned the election committee. A motion was made that the fal I
meeting be an annual business meeting f~the Antique and Classic
Division. This was carried unanimously. Nominees for the office
of the Presidency were asked for. Mr. Hi Ibert was nominated and a
second received. J. R. Nielander was nominated and a ~econd re
ceived. These gentlemen were asked for comments on why they were
interested in the Presidency. Mr. Nielander was extremely enthusi
astic and "would work to the best of my abi I ity". M.r. Hi Ibert's
response was short - "I would I ike to have the job." A vote was
taken and Mr. Hi Ibert was elected by a 21-1 hand vote. Mr. Hi Ibert
was acc Iaimed Pres i dent for the rema i n i ng 1972 and 1973 year by vo ice
acclamation. At this point, Evander Britt asked for nominations for
Vice President. Dave Jameson nominated Nielander for a second term.
There were no other nominations. A vote was taken and unanimously
carried. Nielander was acclaimed Vice-President for the '72-'73
year. Nominations were asked for the office of Secretary. Dick
Wagner was nominated and unanimously acclaimed by voice vote.
Nominations were taken for the Treasury. Dick Wagner nominated
Nick Rezich and was seconded from the floor. Voice vote was taken
and unanimously acclaimed. Discussion on 1973 Board of Directors
fol lowed and was decided that the present Directors be retained.
The motion was made that the members present be added to the
existing Board. A second was received from the floor and a short
discussion fol lowed. A voice vote was taken and Mr. Kumferman's
motion carried. An additional motion was made by Mr. Kumferman
that the present Board members be contacted and so indicate their
interest in continuing serving as Directors. This motion was
seconded. A voice vote was taken and carried. A suggestion made
by the floor that the Antique and Classic Division go on record
recommending to the Officers of the EAA Air Education Museum that
Dave Jameson be made Chairman and Coordinator of the Aircraft
Acquisition Committee of the EAA Aircraft Museum.
needs requIred to make the '73 Convention a mor e enjoyab le and suc
cessfu l event for the Ant iqlf'a~'d Classic owner' , in add i tion, i t was
thought that a fiy-in be he i d i r +he spr i ng in Burl Ing+on provid i ng
a meet i ng ground for the annua ! Convent ion at OShkosh. No date has
been set and the decis ion wi! I be leit up to the of Peers. I twas
also suggested that the Santee, S. C, f!y-;n be made a joint effor t
thus g i Ving member s on the easie ~ n seaboard an oppor t unity to part i
c i pate at a r eg ional event . The f i rst week in May IS the pla nn ed
date, and add ltl ona! coord i nation and information wi I I be avai lab le
shortl y .
The day's agenda be in g complete, a mot ion was asked for adJourn
ment. Itwas rece I ved and seconded t rom th e floor-"
Respectfully submitted,
MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
Jack Cox, Hales Corners, Wisconsin Lan dis West, Scot tsb luf f, Neb".
Golda Cox, Hales Corners, Wiscons t n john Pe rry , Scottsblu ff, Nebr.
Daniel Hami Iton, Anderson, Indiana Ray Scholler, Random Lake, Wisc .
Gar Wil Iiams, Napervi I Ie, I I I inois Bob Kumferman, Menomonee Fal Is,Wisc.
WASHINGTON REPORT
David Scott
EAA Washington Representative
1346 Connecticut Ave., N. W.
Washington, D. C. 20036
Phone: 202/223-5220
MIAMI TCA - The FAA has announced a proposal for rule making outlining
a Terminal Control Area for Mi ami. Comments from the publ ic are due 60
days after October 31, 1972 or roughly around Christmas time.
The TCA configuration looks pretty compl icated and wi I I bar VFR uncon
trol led fl ights down the shore I ine except for those over 7000 ft. or at
dangerously low altitudes. The other alternative for VFR operations is a
long detour to the west. In any event the cei I ing is 7000 ft. which has
been the standard for most TCA's so far.
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FCC ON "N" NUMBERS - There has been some publ ic discussion in recent
weeks about the Federal Communications Commission insistance on pi lots
identifying their aircraft when using radio communications by using "N"
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or liNovemb erli to l 'owed by the reg i stration r> umbe r. The FCC setTled
this conTro'"ers,! ~h:s week by publ i shing a modJf icat 'l or ot their rules
which states t hat :+ :5 nc+ necessary to i nclude the pret x PN:! when
the a irer-aft ; " :dentified by iTS reg.strat.or~ number.
Paul Poberezny) Pres!dent of the Expe r i mental A i rcra ft Asso ciation, did
appear at the meet I ng and showed a fi 1m of t he 1970 EAA Fly-In. This
was an eye opener to the att en ~ees and particularly to the large con
t i ngent of foreign air' ,n e rep rese nt a t:v8s . Most of these people have
little conception of the e xten+ of spo~t av i at i on act i vit ies in this
country.
There were a numbe r of exhib i tors most o f \",h ich showed highly sophis
t i cated equipment for a i r l ine maintenance . But one exhib i t caught the
eye of th i s write r . I t was a Sony casse tte p l ayer and wi ll show pro
grams over a TV set . This is a real breakth r ough for an inexpenSive
education tool . Ca s sette s can be inexpen siv el y made either by pro
fess i ona i or' amateur"s vi i th the' r own tape camer-a , ! n the av, aT i on li ne
it could mean a whole se ries of "How To l' tra i ning a i ds not on ly for
techn i cal i nstruc"on bui- to r t ra i n i ng salesme n or other personnel,
The cassetTe recorder costs at 'the moment abou t $1000 but the price ...,,1 II
probab I y come down as more un its are pl'oduced.
MORE POS I TIVE CmHROL - Pressure cont : nues to bui id for complete posi
t ive control over a ll air"craft and the e l imination of VFR oper'ations
I n many ar"eas .
This week the NTSB relea sed a re po rt on the mi I i tar''y/ a l rl ine call ision
over Cal i fornia of June 6 ,19 7 1 betlveen an F-4B and a DC -9. The NTSB
made a n umber of recommendat i ons to the FAA one of wh i ch said that
climb and descent corridors should be establ i shed from the top ot Ter
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minal Control Areas to the lower I i mit of posit i ve control areas with
the expectation that corr i dors could be eventually el iminated when
positive control floo r s reached the level of TCA cei I ings. The NTSB
did not specify whether this would mean increasing the he i ghts of TCA's
or lowering positive control floors. At present most TCA's extend to
7000 ft. but the FAA has said they intend to increase this to 12,500 ft.
Even earl ier the NTSB had urged the FAA to restrict high speed low level
mi I itary operations to designated areas and routes, specify when the
250 knot speed I imit i n airspace below 10,000 ft. may be exceeded, con
sider using air inte r cept rada r for col I ision avoidance, and publ i cize
the avai labi I i ty of FAA's Radar Advisory Service and consider making
it mandatory.
This past summer lATA, the in t ernational airl ine group, came out with
a pol icy statement say i ng that the see and be seen concept was outmoded
and that VFR and IFR traffic should never be al lowed to mix.
THE VINTAGE AIRPLANE, the house organ of the Antique and Classic
Division of EAA, wi l I, I i ke Sport Av i ation, become a high qual ity pub-
I ication. The newsletter fo r mat used this month is a temporary medium
to al low us to prepare for a new publ ication. EAA has hired new employees
and a new slate of Di v i s ion off icers have been elected - so al I is GO.
Our goal, quite s i mply, i s to produce the very best magazine for antique
and classic airplanes.
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REFLECTIONS
By Bi I I J. Hodges
Drawing by Jack Cox
One group of workers banded together to form the Ryan Bui Iders
Company and bui It a plane called the "Lone Eagle". Another national hero,
Frank Hawks, got the first B-1 and flew it in the 1927 Ford Air Tour and
finished in eighth position. Later that year he flew in the National Air
Races and placed first for speed and third for efficiency for the Detroit
News Trophy. E. W. "Pop" Cleveland placed eighth in the third production
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B-1 i n the 1927 New York to Spokane Air Derby I n the 1928 Nat i ona I
Air Tour AI Henley placed seventh, Vance Breese placed n i nTh and E, W.
Jim Kelly and Reggie Robbins, flyinq a B-1 named "C i ty of Fort Worth",
set a new endurance record of 172 hours in the air - they we re i n-flIght
In late 1928 Frank Mahoney sold the company to the Detroit Aircraft
Corporat ion and construction was moved to Lambert Field in St. Louis,
Missouri. The new owners were made up of the same men who had backed
the "Lone Eagle" for the trans-Atlantic fl ight . The Company now be
came the Mahoney-Ryan Aircraft Corporation . This new compan y i ntro
duced the B-3, B-5, B-7 "Broughams" and the C-I "Foursome" ser ies of
a ircraft. This company went bankrupt unfortunately dur i ng the stock
ma rket crash of 1929.
In 1933, T. Claude Ryan formed the Ryan Aeronaut ical Corpo r ati on and
produced the equally famous Ryan STA in 1934.
A second NY-P was bui It in 1927, and it went to the Japanese news
paper "Ma inichi". Unfortunately, it was demo I ished two weeks after
arriv in g i n Japan when it ran into the side of a mounta i n. Three Ryan
B-1 's a r e known to sti I I exist, perhaps one day we wi I I see them i n the
a ir again on the Fly-In circuit.
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