MR. L. Through which centre does conscience work?

I did something
and felt uncomfortable. . . .
MR. O. It depends what you did. Could be simply mechanical habit,
good or bad, to break which is uncomfortable. This is mostly based on
mechanical habits of thinking given by education—rules of conduct or
moral rules. Conscience we never experience in most cases. It is a very
unpleasant feeling. We have too many buffers. Buffers are partitions
between our emotional attitudes. Conscience means that you see a
hundred things at the same time; partitions disappear and you see all
inner contradictions at the same time. It is very unpleasant. pag 106

People 1, 2, 3 are divided according to the centre which predominates in them. These three
categories are on the same level. All people are born 1, 2, 3 and die 1, 2, 3. They cannot become 4
without school-work, school organization, or certain cycle of ideas, or systems which come from
people of higher level. Man No. 5 has self-consciousness, man No. 6 has objective consciousness,
man No. 7 cannot lose those things. Schools can be of very different levels. There may be schools for
No. 6 to become No. 7, for No. 5 to become No. 6, etc. Or for 1, 2 and 3 who want to become
4. There cannot be a school without direct, or indirect, guidance. A
man 1, 2, 3, if he wants to organize a school for men 1, 2, 3; it will not
be recognized as school. It will only be an individual attempt. pag 108

MR. O. About questions on three forces and triads—you must understand

where the idea of triads came from. It came from old Indian
philosophy—the teaching of Gunas. Guna is a force. Three Gunas are
three forces. It is said in this teaching that there are seven combinations
of Gunas—one incomprehensible and six comprehensible to our mind.
But they are comprehensible only if they are explained well and are
taken in connection with other things. pag 110

Now you must all think about the definition of the six triads. Three
triads we have tried to define by examples. For the first triad an
example of violent actions, such as the burning of a house, was given;
for the second—the building of a house. But this is only an example,
not a full definition. Examples of the third triad, in our experience, we
can find only in conscious work, not identified work, or in some
activity that has a peculiar quality and that cannot be imitated by
others, such as artistic creation. pag 113
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pag112
MR. C. What is the difference between laws and hydrogens? What are
these laws? You said these figures represent certain laws and they are
not the same as hydrogens?
MR. O. Each level represents a certain hydrogen. You must understand
that hydrogens work through centres. Higher mental centre works
with H6, higher emotional centre with Hi 2, etc. Starting from that
you can collect material to compare and to think. Pag115

I said that different

activities depend on different triads. One kind of activity means one
kind of triad, another kind of activity means another kind of triad. Art
requires a certain triad, criminal activity means quite a different triad,
etc. In art one must be able to use a certain particular triad or else it
will not be art. In another case, if you use a certain particular triad of
another kind your work is bound to be criminal.
There is a very limited number of fundamental triads—six triads
(the seventh is incomprehensible for us). These six triads create all the
phenomena of our life. If you take phenomena given in diagrams, I said
that we can study octaves in them. And occasionally we can also see
octaves in phenomena of human activity. The same applies to triads.
There are only six types of triads:
1-2-3 1-3-2
2-1-3 2-3-1
3-2-1 3-1-2
Triads can be divided according to the force by which they begin,
and they can also be divided according to the force by which they end.
Take the triads that end with 2. It means that the result is lower than
the beginning. Something happens—either disaster, catastrophe or
degeneration. These two triads show descending octaves.
It does not
mean that all descending octaves are necessarily of this kind; but that is
sufficient for the moment. So there are four ascending octaves and two
descending octaves. If you take this in relation to human activity, it is
enough. If we take the same thing on a larger scale, we shall have three
descending and three ascending octaves. So you see, not only the force
in the beginning is important, but also the last. In this way, for
practical purposes, triads can be judged by the beginning and the end.
It is all very very far, but it shows the way to objective understanding
of right and wrong.
Pag161-162

MRS. W. What is the difference between 2-1-3 and 2-3-1?

MR. O. If we take the Food Table: the first do 768 comes in as 2. It
meets with carbon which is 1, and results in nitrogen 384, which is 3. This is the triad 2-1-3. All the
triads in the Food Diagram go in this
order with the exception of one: do 48 comes in as 2, but there is no
carbon 1. So you must first bring 3, and 2 and 3 together to make 1.
Or rather, you must bring 3 first and then 3 brings 1. Self-remembering
is 3, and it will bring the necessary carbon. In other triads carbon is
arranged by nature, but in this case there is no carbon, it can only be
brought by self-remembering. This is triad 2-3-1. Pag 162
MR. p. Does the criminal triad end with 2?
MR. O. Yes, it is 3-1-2. But this triad has many legitimate functions
also.
MRS. W. Does 3 always mean something higher than 1 and 2?
MR. O. No. 2 is the lowest always, but sometimes 1 is higher and
sometimes 3. Normally 1 is the highest, although sometimes 3 is more
important. Pag 162

Triad 2-3-1 belongs to the ascending octave. Pag 164

MR. L. What is meant by the statement 'man is a complete cosmos'? MR. O. All laws which work in
cosmos work in man. Pag 174

It is said that every action, every manifestation is the result of the conjunction of three forces:
positive, negative and neutralizing. Pag 184

In Sankhya philosophy it is put like that: three Gunas have seven combinations, one combination
incomprehensible for our mind
and six combinations comprehensible for our mind. This is the principle,
this is the idea. And if we connect this possibility of seven combinations with the Ray of Creation, we
will get something out of it. But of this we
will speak later. First we must begin with the general idea, and you must understand how you can
start to study it. You can start to study it from
two sides, and the first of these is from the point of view of human
actions, because, although we don't understand it, there is the same, or even a bigger, difference
between human actions, as between different
objects. You know that this ash-tray is different from a pineapple, you will not mix them. But we
don't understand that one action and another
action are as different as two different objects. And this is what we must
understand in relation to our actions, and we must try to find categories of actions. There are six
different categories of actions—try to see them,
without even knowing which is which, which represents which triad or which is using which triad.
When you understand the difference between
these six categories, then we will be able to speak further. Pag 184