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WASHINGTON - A pri- valved in Watergate. $100,000 for himself and for

vate investigator Richard These were among Col- the President, his family
Bast. says former White son's other allegations, as and the girls and my worst
House aide Charles Colson quoted by Bast: supposition is that the Pres-
thinks that President Nixon • Nixon is "a president ident thinks, if he really
is a prisoner of the CIA, the who is weak and under at- b Io w s this thing, that
military, billionaire Howard tack" and "is scared as hell Hughes can hlow the whis-
Hughes and of his own to alien tale the military and tie on him. Who knows if
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But Colson said yester-
ments." e Mrs. Dorothy Hunt,
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day that his talk with Bast
son: "Because of a coup?" Chicago in 1972 "was on
was exploratory and largely
Colson replied: "Yes." the CIA payroll the da}' she
conjectural.
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thought Nixon had received "1 don't say this to many
hand fashion, largely ex- some of a $100,000 pay- people because they think
ploring theories for many of menl made to bis friend. C. I'm nuts.J think the\' iuJl«N
whkh I have been unable to G. (Bebe) Rebozo, and on Dorothy tttmt, I really do.
obt~in factual s upport," t h a l account could be lC1rs. Hunt said that Water-
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ments r made to Bast, some "You want to know what but she worked for the CIA
of which appear to be accu- I really think?" Colson was to the day she di "
rately quoted, should not
therefore be read into any
quoted as saying. "I'm loyal e o ecret Service
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other context." friend, but I think Hughes d Nixon is surrounded b
Colson, who pleaded guil- paid Bebe that dough. I these guys," Colson said.
ty June 3 to a charge of ob-
structing justice in the Ells-
berg case, said he had In-
formed the Watergate pros-
ecution of his theories, ac-
cording to Bast.
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this stuff. They haven't
touched iL They've gone
out of their way not to,"
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ing.
Sources in the prosecu-
tion declined comment on
Colson's statements, but in-
dicated that they believe
that the White House, not
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,.~)(rnNETH J. P.ASER on June 30, 1972, disclose that E. HO'..IARD
·::-:·iroNT was last issued Passport B-1811567 at Washington, D.C.
· ('.me), on July 21, 1971, for propos2d business travel for one
:. month to France, England and Eelgiu.'Il. ::Ln his application,
' · ·::dated July 21, 1971, he stated his inten_tion to depart by air
· about .September, 197-1, and expected to take another trip abroad
. ·within two years. This passport was valid for five years'
t·"'-.::'.~:/'.''travel to all co,mtries except. Cuba, North Korea and North
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. validity ~henever and as often as desired without furtter
-· notification to the Department of State or other Gov~rCT.ent
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c~rtificate has been seen by passpo~t authorities. Ee gnve his
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:.'.: .. ·::Potomac, Y.c!ryland, home telephone 299-7366, business telephone
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<~·HOWARD HUNT, Jrt., was first issued Passport 638014 at \..'DC on
· June ·22, 1939, for proposed pleasu:::-e travel for two ::-:cnths to
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"'years·:· His ?e=anent residence -.ias then listed as ~i-~5 L'l.ncaster }·.
Av~nue, · Buff~lo,. Kew York. Hi's father served as hi97 ider,tifyir.~
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:.1941. his father, on his stat!onery as an attorney at 163 Allen
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13850 at New York City on February 20, 1943, to expire, on ·. -.-·;:.
August 20, 1943, not valid for travel in any country except . .. ·.'!-~-· ..:;s,i
·Australia for ne;i.spaper work and nec<'ssary countries en route •.~-;;:;;~­
This application dated February 10, 19l13, at Ne·.1 York City was :]!{:-. '.:l~
supported by a letter dated FebrJary 9 1943; from DANIEL · c'?~~ ~l~-
LOl!GWELL, E:cecutive Editor, "Life", stating that h1.li<T was a .. ::;fJ;:.":_:.~ -;&:,;
member of the staff of ti:iat magazine who was pr_cceeding abroad--~\{{!_
with the Pacific fleet with eventual assignment with- an Army . _,c\-.,.·
unit sorne"lolhere in the Pacific. His draft board number- 343 - .,._..,;""';fj-
at Albany issued the appropri2te permit. He gave his per:::;anent.''.?.':';':
residence at that time as 192 Euclid .'ov=nue, Albany, New York, _·;,.;:,~;-·-
He stated that he had been in Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden,.<(:i\}Y . ,.
• Holl'l:nd, France, England and Scotla~d ~rom_ June to September~~;·:~~_·.. \j:
1939. He listed his father as EVE?-ETT.:. HOwAFD HUNT, born at --"' ., ,~:· i-J.
Hamburg, Ve\¥ York, in Dece!:lber, 1889, "nd his mother as ET&""'L'""~•~',~?- ~{f;
JE;w HUNT, born at Car:iegie, Pennsylvania, in ~13y, 1893. -.1.~~;~j~~t~~----~-_:s _
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Guggenheim c!emorial Foundation scholarship. On September 19, _:;:'-;'-~: ~,~~
1946, he was informed that the 1943 passport ;iould be expiring .,_;.: ~/--~
on February 2{), 1947, so he might like to apply for a new one ... ~'._,_~~ :·~;
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OJicago Police Co:nr::a!1de::, P.:.G!-IARD 1-!C CUi'-?.IE, Eighth District,

Police -Department, furr:ishecl t'.-ie following information:

United Airlines .fl igi1t 553, e •.: routc.> fro::! Washington,

D. C. to Chicaeo i'~.:.c...,c.y .f.i-::pc-L t, c::as!ir:c: w;i..le o.pproachi1,,:;
Midway :iirport on Decenber B, 1972, To date, 45 persons are
kno>.'li dead, The cause o:: t:ie <·.c·.::ici2:1t >:2:0 bco.:.:eveC: to be me-
chanical failure a:ici/ o:c· c-ilot e:-ror. Th'"r" ¥c>.s i10 ev .:.dence
of an i11tentio:1al clesc-n.:-:~.'o,. of t~.c?. nlc.,:c. Ti1ere >icrc 18 sur-
vivors,

Jlmo1:g the dG1ci wc.s o.1e D0?.0:1:.r W:J?·T, 11120. R5.ver Ro2d,
Potomac, !-iaryland. s:1e: UO'.S :i.d.ectified £:t"os pcrso;ial effects O:l
her perso:-., and a visu<;l ~de,rtif:'.ca::::.on w2s r.1af.e by her husba1,C:,
EVERETTE.: HO\J,\i<D HJ :T,

Recovere2 frcr: n pu::-.se co ..1t2::..::_.:r;; id~:itificat:Lon of·

Hrs. HULff was S10,ooo.oo ii: o~.e hu.c1c::eC: dollc:r bills. This
money is r..ow in the custociy of the l~v i·.ience ""'d Recovered Prop-
erty Sectio;, of the Police DepaYtrr.ent under t'.-ieir i:;ventory ~=­
ber 10765, He felt certain t'1at no i:.:ventor•· l-lc.s made of the
bills by serial ilUmber. ii2 i-:2.:; iiot &'1-:aye o:f° a::y checkbooks or
passbooks recovered from Mrs, HUlu'.

Comma11der 1'1C CI..1?. J:.:~:2 st2te2'..

DUELI1'1A~·7 may be ab2.e to ::'.:u:::-;1.:.s:, :a::;re th;;.t L.;.euter,an~ P.A::.n:.
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JAIUARY, 15, 1973, HE POSSESSED 3 UNUSED AIRLIIE. TICKETS

RECOVERED rROM CRASH SCENE or OiITED AIR LINES FLIGHT
553 AT CHICAGO 01 12-8-72. THIS WAS CRASH II WHICH MRS.
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JU!fBER 916~2021S&3638 ISSUED

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9 to make his case. Skolnick is equa/~y back?
. B · adamant about the conspiracy theory SKOLNICK: No. But the point is that
A wide grin creases Sherman Ska/-
nick's face when you ask him if he
sleeps well, or rvhether his dreams are a
nightmarish pastiche of shadowy in-
trigues and dark conspiracies. "Sure I
sleep well," he replies, but rhere's some-
thing in the way he says it that suggesrs
that Ska/nick's nightmares begin not
when he sleeps but when he awakens.
For from that moment, Skolnick is a
man for whom every ring of che phone,
letter in the mail, or knock on the door
takes on the ominous tone of a Kafka
novel. It is an existence that Skolnick
has not quite grown _accustomed to-
like Alice .in Wondenand, excepc that
Ska/nick's "wonderland" is far more vi-
olent and bizarre chan anything A lice
ever witnessed. Since 1967, in a virtual
.. ·-- one:..man cr.J.sade, Skolnick.hos bucked.
crooked politicians, the syndicate, cor-
rupt government officials, and a sus-
pected agent provocateur or nvo.
Confined co a wheelchair because of
polio, ru"7tning zhe show out of his living
room with the help of a small, dedicated
volunteer sea.ff, Skolnick has nonethe-
less managed to gather enough evidence
to knock an Illinois governor our of his
seat, remove several corrnpt judges. and
predict the resignation of former Vice
President Spiro Agnew months before
he stepped down from office. All of
which has taken its toll on Skolnick.He
has been arrested, harassed, and dis-
credited by his powerful political ene-
mies, much along the same lines as Jim
Garrison, Ma ...k Lane, and i\1artha
Mitchell.
In fact, Skolnick has managed to
step on so many thumbs that he has had
more government agents calling on him
chan have neighbors down the block.
But If Skolnick has proved to be a Jere-
miah of sorts, on some occasions he is
still more the master of the art of srar-
tl!ng disclosures-many of which still
remain to be prove.d true. For instance:
He strong!;' asserts that the United Air
Lines plane that crashed in Chicago in
1972, and 1Vhich carried .lvfrs. Hott ard 1
l'{uru a.board, 1Vas planned b.Y govern-
o~,·,c~~/~~~e,~_Jsp-ec.:::_-c--_:_'.h.:::::~:=:.·.1· .·yo./, l. !Vof. ~!J(;, Ji;;~
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cases 'f!rliJ'VYJCt~'iIJn th<@'Jfave
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stack of evidence to prove his claim. gone to the ·supreme Court about 44
Skolnick also maintains that Rennie times. So for better or worse, I hold the
Davis, Abby Hoffman, and most of the dubious distinction of having been to
Chicago Seven, leaders oft~he Supreme Court of the United
during the 1968 Democratic~ -States more times than any other per-
Convention, are all CIA agents. Here, son in the history of the country.
again, he cites argument after argument COQ: So you never got your money
involving President Kennedy's assassi- I found that other people had also
nation. But most startling of all, he been swindled in the courts. Therefore
broadly hints that Nixon himself may in 1963 we formed the Citizens' Com-
have had a .hand in the rragic affair. mittee to Clean Up the Courts. We fig-
Jt was rvith such -claims in-minQ rhat ured this \Vas a name that no illiterate,
COQ recently sat down wirh Skolnick 10 crooked judge could possibly mistake
discuss these and other matters. The as. to \Vhat -.,ve \Vere into. \Ve made a
talk lasted almost five hours. At one -study of all the bank cases in the Fed-
point the phone rang and che ocher end era! Court of Appeals covering a ten-
went dead. Earlier, Ska/nick's one- year period. We found that there were
armed chauffeur mysteriously worded a 27 cases, and 26 of them were won by
message to his boss and sudden(y hur- the banks. We then determined who
ried off. It }Vas Holmes, Chan, and a bit the judges were hearing these cases,
of Bond combined. It was Sherman and they were bankers. We compiled
Skolnick-muckracker, gadfly, fighter information on the state of bribery.
of the never-ending bartlefor truth,jus- We figured out exactly how you go
tice, and the American way-in the set- about bribing a judge, and things of
ring he likes best. that sort, You don't bribe him in an
The interview wa-1 conducted by Ste- alley, by the way.
ven Feldman, Fram;ois Roberr, Nancy COQ: You've branched out from in-
Sundquis(,,and Lesley Sussm_an. 0
vestigating the courts to include politi-
COQ: How did you get into this rack---· cal figures. For .. example,-you'v'e
I
'et? charged that the Chicago Seven \Vere
SKOLNICK: Some 15 or 16 years ago, on government payroll.
my folks put some money in trust for SKOLNICK: We traced their money
me, and the people who were sup- to the CIA through foundations. Be-
posed to administer the trust abscond- sides, they got half a million dollars
ed with the money. From there \Ve for the street riot5 five years ago.
ended up in the courts. In the begin- COQ: Who got it?
ning I had a lawyer representing me, SKOLNICK: Oh, Rennie Davis and
and we spent some nine years in the those people. That's why I got arrest-
courts trying to get the money back. ed. During the taping of a TV show l
We finally ended up in the State Su-
preme Court, and by that point I had
confronted Rennie and he wouldn't
answer. Instead, the police showed up I
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studied enough law so that I was able and took me away.
t.o represent myself. Round about COQ: How did you develop your in-
1961, I took up the study oflaw on my formation? Where did you get your i
o\.vn. My house-at one time had,6000 first in..~ling that there might be some- I
law books. I found out _going through thing ... ?
the courts that there was really no jus- SKOLNICK: Just from putting bits
tice. There \Vas more conflict of inter- and pieces together. \Ve compile in-
est. I found that there were other peo- formation on foundations, and after a
ple similarly situated who had been while you get to know which founda-
"done in" in the courts. I spent years in tions are connected \Vi th Central Intel-
the courts, and I couldn't get any satis- ligence: the J.M. Kaplan Fund in New
faction. The case involving my trust York, the Ne\V World Foundation of
fund banged around five times to the Chicago, and others.
U.S. Sup;eme Court. I also became COQ: Can you prove these cbnnec-
interested in doing some public good, tions?
and I worked on some public-interest SKOLNICK: Sure, some of them have
cases that didn't involve me personal- come out already. The National Stu-
ly. Sort of what are loosely kno\vn as dent Association, the \Vorld Group of
''class actions." As a result of that, Jurists, and others like these were
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,·. identified in February 1967 as CIA
fronts. These are the foundations that
supplied the Chicago Seven \\'ith ail
the money.
COQ: How do you know they got
money?
SKOLNICK: The foundations are the
only entities in the country that must
file public tax returns. We compile
those, and we were able to show, for
example, that the Parvin Foundation,
headed up by Justice Douglas. was a
CIA front.
COQ: Do you have any vie\vs on \Va-
tergate?
SKOLNICK: Watergate to us does not
stand for burglarin!!, it stands for mur-
der. Since June -17, 1972, several
hundred people have been murdered
because of the break-in. One of Don-
ald Segretti's associates, for example,
was murdered in an alleged accident.
There have been other attempts at
murder. \Vatere:ate is a continuation
ofa decade of Political assassinations.
COQ: You're the latest in a growing
list of people such as Mark Lane, Jim
Garrison, and ;\fartha Mitchell who
are ridiculed for their conspiracy
theories. How do you feel about it?
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SKQI,NIC_K: Well,) answer it with a
I Nixon -v,ias in·· v.•ith -the people \Vho -...
and Ford Motor never had their facili-
ties appropriated when the Bolsheviks
came to po\v~r?
COQ: You've been on a Rockefeller
thing lately. Is something going on?
SKOLNICK: The reason we got into
that is that it helps explain some phe-
nomena in this country that othenvise
are inexplicable. So one of the hip
things we got into was this plane crash.
COQ: The one at Midway Airport in
1972, with Mrs. Howard Hunt on it?
SKOLNICK: Yes. At first we \Vanted
to tum back on it because a lot has
happened to me and my friends which
would have made anybody with more
sense than us give up.
COQ: What do you mean?
SKOLNICK: I mean we were fucked
over so much. \\1e should have quit.
COQ: Who fucked you over?
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principal stockholders of United Air
Lines? Rockefeller.
COQ: What if Mrs. Hunt had booked
a flight on American?
SKOLNICK: You want to go through
the whole corporate study of United
Air Lines? You're forcing me to go
into a little philosophy. Two factions
struggle for control of this country.
The one faction you're all aware of is
Nixon and his group of whatever you
\Vant to call then1.1\Ti.xon Vl'as a Rocke-
feller man. When he lost in politics in
1962, he supposedly was broke. He
then moved into a $175,000 condo-
minium in Rockefeller's building, the
same building that Rockefeller lives
in, and then \Vent on a $200,000-a-
year speaking tour. Just to keep him
busy. He then became a partner in a
law firm that does a lot of Rockefeller
£1 work. From 1962 to about 1966, he
j was in Rockefeller's pocket. Nixon got
wealthy. What Rockefeller either
v.•asn't a\vare of or overlooked \Vas
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that Nixon, from the Second World
\\'ar on, \Vas very much in \Vith the
gangsters. Sundance magazine \Vent
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· way things are' going in this country; if \Vere in the tire recapping rackets dur-
you're not paranoid, you're crazy.
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plicity exists in the ·assassination field,

in the political field, in the peace field.
A percentage of the bombing of gov-
ernment buildings has been done by
provocateurs. \\1ell, ho\\' are the tax-
payers served when government
agents born b government buildings?
A notorious example \Vas in Seattle.
As a result of the unemployment
there, people \Vere getting restless. The
FBI staged an incident to blame on
the radicals-they bombed the post of-
fice. But the FBI has got toilet-training
hang-ups. They're always· bombing
johns. During the Haiphong harbor
mining protests, they bombed the
V1 1omen's
john in the Pentagon. \Vhat
great radical thing is bombing a john?
You find that the czars did the same.
COQ: Did you know that Stalin was a
member of the Czar's secret police?
SKOLNICK: Well, if you want to get
into a broad philosophical subject, I
can sho\\' you documentation that the
Russian Revolution was financed in
New York through the Rockefellers as
an experiment in socialism. Ho\v
many people know that Standard Oil
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Havana during the Batista regime.
And there were two people who head-
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ed up the Bay of Pigs, t\VO overseers:
Richard Nixon and· E. Howard Hunt.
~--- And so Nixon had quite a bit to do
SKOLNICK: The FBl, different gov-
ernment phenomena. My closest with the Mafia. A lot of the people re·
friend spent 40 days in jail without a cruited for the Bay of Pigs were gang-
trial because of this Midway crash. ster types. They were not paid in
COQ: What was the charge? money, they were paid in heroin, and
SKOLNICK: There wasn't any. We they sold that and raised money with
picketed the street for five or six that. But from 1966 on, Nixon depart-
weeks. We raised all· kinds of shit. It ed from the super-elitists, the intellec-
\Vas an illegal detention. tuals, the liberals, as they call them,
COQ: How did you get him out? and fell back into his previous back-
SKOLNICK: We raised all kinds of ground with Rebozo and Lansky.
noise. For the first time in the history There are t\VO things that are in the
of our group we picketed the streets. I \vorks llO\V \Vhich will force Nixon
don't like to. picket. The weather is either to leave office or leave the coun-
bad, you know. And publicly I usually try. I attended a conference on politi-
go in the \Vheelchair. I don't v.·ant to cal assassination research last Thanks-
v.•ear out the tires on my aluminum giving weekend. One of the things
wheelchair. that's coming up, which is very hip, is
COQ: How does this tie in with Rock- -that Nixon is going to be implicated in
efeller? President Kennedy's assassination.
SKOLNICK: We found out .who was There's a link between Dallas and
involved in the crash. We did a study V..'atergate. You've got to read a book
of the whole thing. Who had an inter· called Fareivell, America. It's one of
est to crash the plane? Who are the the books that's banned in the United
COQ

States, and it tells about the CIA's in-
volvement with the assassination.
We've got very few copies left, but I'll
give you one. \\' e obtained some cop-
ies by devious means, and \Ve use them
to raise money for our organization. In
other words, you donate ten dollars, I
give vou one free. Bookstores cannot
~ell the book. They can't import it, it's
illegal. U.S. Customs doesn't allow it.
The book shows that leaders of the as-
sassination attempt met the night be-
fore, or tv.ro days before, and planned
theJast-miJlute things. Nixon and J.
Edgar Hoover two days before Dallas
met at an oil millionaire's ranch 1 and
on the morning of the assassination
Nixon took flight 82 to New York.
The other major accusation against
Nixon \Vill concern a gambling place
called Paradi.se Island. The gambling
casino is kno\VIl to the press, but
they're \vaiting for a strategic moment.
It's owned by the international gang-
., ster Meyer Lansky, by Bebe Rebozo,
and by Richard Nixon.
I associate with reporters from all
over the world. Occasionally, they say,
''Hey, I've got this stOI)', I can't move
with it, you got an idea?" In April I
~·~2 __det~iling \Vhat ~·as going to hap-
pen with Agnew. When ilrdAgnew g1C- • -(f ·~- -jJ·1«fm,,;,,;w--
put to the wall? On the day that tlie
Senate Watergate Committee re-
cessed for the su.mm~r. On that day
the press started m wlth Agnew. Why
didn't they start in April? They had all
the facts. It's a scenario. It is orches-
trated by what is loosely known as the
was never made a part of the United
Stuart Publishers. It's about David
States. If he ever goes to his Florida
Rockefeller. The Rockefellers own,
\Vhite House, he's not in the United
you might say, the mass media. They
States. \\1e can't sen'e a summons on
own 17 percent of CBS, they're the
him or do anything.
principal stockholders in RCA, which
COQ: Presumably Meyer Lansky
has as a subsidiary the NBC network,
could help him get to the Bahamas.
and they have a major interest in
SKOLNICK: Yeah.
ABC. So the three networks are owned
COQ: Your credibility, which has
and operated by the Rockefellers.
never been very great. ...
Then through their various banking
SKOLNICK: Credibility with whom?
interests in Chase Manhattan Bank
COQ: With a mass of people who fol-
and others, they have a good \Vorking
low you. You went before the Mi!lway
interest in every major paper that you
plane crash hearing and couldn't real-
v.1ant to talk about: The }lev.1 York
ly baci-: up your charges.
Times, the Field papers,_ e.tc.
SKOLNICK: Now wait a minute.
COQ: How would you describe Rock-
When I showed up with three suitcases
efeller? filled with documents, I spread them
SKOLNICK: He's not an American. I
out on a big table. Reporters had
heard of this hearing and came from
all over the Western world. I spread
out on the table the entire government
file on the crash which I told the Safety
Board then in session that I had stolen.
If they wanted to prosecute me that
would be the time and place. We had
over 1300 pages of exhibits, reports,
photographs, and diagrams, which,
when you analyze them step by step,
shO\\' that this \Vas not an accident.
~~ The government proposed to suppress
...~A.. ~"'·..,,.. _t_his Jike the Warren Commission
' - documents:-Excepi we headed it off by -- -
.. / / . I .............. siealing it all. Therefore, if your judg-
,. • ' ' I ment about my credibility is based
: / .) ~~--·~;;; upon \Vhat the media ran, then you
•~'} ~- : rightfully say that I have no credibil-
ity. Ho\vever, the Associated Press ran
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a story that \Vas accurate. They said .

become depleted he will put his foot . ing of the National Transportation
i Rockefeller element, \Vhat is kno\Vn as
stronger into the other country, Rus- Safety Board and has presented a
the Council on Foreign Relations.
I They pushed Agnew out. Agnew i.s
sia. Like some of the other oil million- heavily documented case of sabotage.
aires, he has no country. Their country This \Vire service story \Vas not run by
very much in with Rockefeller. They
is \Vhere the business is.
threw one of their people out in order. COQ: Did you say that Ford was a any major paper in the United States,
to get at Nixon. even though it was on the A wire. It
Rockefeller man? · ran in a couple of small papers near
r'!I COQ: Why?
SKOLNICK: In Heritage of Stone, Jim
SKOLNICK: Well, in a way.
COQ: So why did Nixon pick him?
Garrison says that Gerald Ford is one SKOLNICK: Nixon had nothing to do
Seattle and in a few small Southern
papers. The rest of them took a differ-
of the people the CIA likes the most. with it. He's no longer in contr~l. It is
ent position entirely.
Ford sat on the \Varren Commission, of no consequence \Vhat Nixon does. COQ: Let's try to make sense of the
United Air Lines crash. What do you
as did Leon Jaworski as special coun- COQ: Why ·doesn't he figbt?
SKOLNICK: His options are dimin- think happened?
sel to the Commission.
COQ: What about Archibald Cox? ishing. He's getting down to the point SKOLNICK: Mrs. Hunt carried two
,I SKOLNICK: Cox for years has been where he's implicated in the Kennedy
million dollars of valuables traceable
to CREEP. We have two witnesses to
one of Rockefeller's people. Rockefel- assassination. They'll shoot him and that. She had what amounted to a
.i ler surrounds Ni.xon now. He's got get away \vith it. His options are gone. document that was probably one of
Haig in there, he's got Kissinger, \Vho COQ: Why doesn't he flee the coun- the most controversial documents in
used to be a director of the Rockefeller try? recent history. It shows that t\\10 weeks
Foundation. Nixon is surrounded, SKOLNICK: I made a study of that. after Jack Kennedy's election in 1960,
he's not the President anymore. There Do you know where he has hi.s Florida the incumbent President, Eisenhower,
is a book that only circulates around in White House? It's not in the United for reasons \Vhich he thought v.rere
a limited way called David from Lyle States. It's in old Spanish territory that COQ
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best for the Republic, signed an order we ordered a large pizza. He wanted
for Kennedy's removal. It was author;: everything on it, and it cost $17.95. So
ized by the National Security Council he tells this joke. That was a good joke.
and to be put immediately in the ar- COQ: You've charged that the plane
chives. Mrs. Hunt was carrying that had extraordinary amounts of cya-
document. Now, whether her husband nide. But the official report denies
fabricated that document based on that.
other historical evidence or \Vhether it SKOLNICK: That's much in dispute.
is a true document, I don't kno\\'. But By the way, the pilot had an inter-
four documents that she had with her esting name, Captain Whitehouse. Of
on the plane by some miracle flooded the Three people in the cockpit, the
away from that plane, beyond the pilot is the only one who had cyanide,
crash zone, beyond the FBI, and got and he had 3.9 micrograms per milli-
caught in a.bush. Some little old lady liter. You don't breathe after 1.0,
had it for several months. This lady is you're \viped out, while 3:9-is impossi-
not in politics, she is not a spy. She ble by inhalation. Only by injection or
didn't know what to do with it. It final- ingestion, not by inhalation, can 3.9
ly ended up with us. milliliter be gotten in your body.
COQ: You have these documents? Therefore, this pilot was four times
SKOLNICK: We are in possession of dead, thus indicating foul play. There
them. \\'e have \Vritten a book about is other circumstantial proof to shO\\'
it, and the book is going to be pub- ;·~,··· -~ £1
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lished, I think, in Europe. I don't think
it can be published in the United
States, because the document so much
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as says that Nixon, \vho \Vas a member
of the National Security Council, or-
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\vhat he thought patriotic reasons. ,.;
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ing it. I am not \Vith the government. i !·· I ~
COQ: May we see that doc.ument? : '~· j -~-~'f:P '• "'<" . had some under her seat that \Vas sto-
SKOLNICK: I won't show it to any- J >,·· _ .Z'L. .. 1 len before the <:rash. We believe she
body. It will come out in our book. ."!..·.- .. ,, 1 was murdered. Why else did the FBI
COQ: You see, Sherman, you should ·. , . ·· .• ' . j not allow the body bags to be exam-
be open with people. You're playing : /!fi('!llie&.ttji;jf~. '* • ,,'
the same government games that the pilot was dead before the crash.
you're supposedly against. Flight regulations provide that, at
SKOLNICK: No, no, you can inter- minimum, the pilot must fly the first
vie\\' the \Vitnesses. five minutes and the last five minutes.
COQ: That's not the point. Could we During the last two and a half minutes
see the document? we don't hear from the pilot at all. He
SKOLNICK: I can show you a facsimi- is not flying. The copilot and the sec-
le of it. I'll tell you something. Six ond officer are talking.
man ths ago, if a reporter came to me, I But our case does not stand or fall
\VOuld shO\V him practicaJly every- on the cyanide issue. For example,
thing that \Vas in the house. I gave most of the food tables \Vere in the
up that idea after what Rolling Stone serving position. When the plane's
did to me. Their reporter, Terry landing, those food tables have got to
Sheridan, \Vhom r,..-e knovln for more be dO\Vll, and the biggest crash in the
than three years, once \Vrote a story \Vorld cannot dislodge those food ta-
that was objective about us. It didn't b!es. This indicates that the ground
necessarily praise us but merely told controllers misdirected the plane, so
the truth about our work. So then that the crew thought they were in a
Terry Sheridan \\'rites a four-page landing pattern and not about to land.
I stOI)' in Rolling Stone without refer- The FBI and the Safety Board did not
ring to the documents. He was there tell the public that many died by being
I during the two days of hearings. In-
stead he \Vrote that \Vhile he \Vas at my
crushed against the food tables. What
do they tell you \vhen you're ap-
.I house a week or two after the hearings preaching the airport? Fasten your
seat belts and fold up your food table
right? Well, you could say that on;
. person forgot to fold up his table, but
how could most of the food tables be
folded out?
No doctors or nurses or ambulances
that responded to the crash emergency
were allowed to go to the plane. They
were all kept in a garage 30 to 40 feet
away. One doctor went toward the
plane and a nameless, faceless person,
who the doctor thought was FBI and
who had the area blocked off, said that
everybody \Vas dead and there was no
need for doctors. An ambulance driver
\Vas not allo\ved to go any closer ei-
ther, even though he heard people
screaming on the plane. Hundreds of
FBI men had taken the area over and
kept everyone out, including police.
COQ: Why were there so many FBI
agents? ·
people who were on the plane, one
survived. She is half out of her mind
by terror because of this crash. She
keeps moving every month to a differ-
her house. She told one of our staff
people that when she gets to know us
better she will tell us about the terrible
thlilg.S"tha.t \\;entolliiithe-cabillbefofe-
the crash. We believe that some of
Mrs. Hunt's luggage \Vas stolen. She
ined and refuse last rites to be admin-
istered?
COQ: Wasn't there any autopsy?
SKOLNICK: No. The FBI had
stripped all the bodies of all their pos-
sessions, all their rings, credit cards,
everything. The press was either not
diligent enough to knov.• about all this
or didn't \Vant to kno\v, because report-
ers for all the major papers simply put
their bylines on press releases.
COQ: What advice do you have for
young people?
SKOLNICK: The United States is the
last place in the world for those who
want to lead a life of freedom. We are
the last place, there is no other place to
go. There was a thing called the Amer-
ican Dream, but it has probably been
gone for a hundred years now. It has
been taken over by the Rockefellers,
the Marshall Fields, the Camegies,
and the rest of them. There is no such
thing as free enterprise. There is no
such thing as justice. CO~