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Q: Sticky Clinker:How to ride off the sticky clinker, Although it is not causing snow formation but the flow of
the airthrough kids of IKN cooler is being effected. Furthermore how to control the cooler exit
temperature.
A: The "kids" of the IKN grate must be restricted. Inadequate air flow through the grate will lead to
more sticky clinker on the grate and also to high cooler exhaust gas temperature. I suspect you will
have to stop and clean the "kids" of the IKN grate.
Q: method of raw mix pile avg calculation according to hourly tonnage in excel?
A:This requires that the weighted average of each oxide in the pile be calculated after each new
sample using the analysis of the sample and the wieght of material added to the pile. The
composition to correct the pile to target can then be calculated.
Q: effect of flame shape:Dear Sir, What is the effect of flame shape on the kiln outlet oxygen and carbon
mono oxide.
A:It is important to have good mixing of the secondary combustion air and fuel in the main burner
flame. If not then it is possible that there will be CO even with kiln inlet oxygen as high as 5%. The
momentum of the primary air blown through the burner pipe must be sufficient to produce a short,
hot, recirculating flame. The benchmark is that the momentum should be a minimum of 10 Newtons
per MW of the burner.
Q: what are the factor affecting on the process bag filter fan efficiency? sir , regarding the fan efficiency,
what i under stood that by changing stack height , ,changing impeller size or modified impeller , replacing
motor with drive(VFD) but not by removing fan damper pressure loss ( if there is a damper ) is it write or
wrong?
A: Fan efficiency itself will be affected by the impellor design. Fan performance will be affected by the
other factors.
Q: Preaheter cyclone efficiency, from down to the top cyclone. sir i know the method for calculating the top
cyclone efficency of preheater but my quistion is how to estimate the efficiency of remaing cyclone , i.e
from 2cy to bottom cyclone indivisually ?
A: This has to be done by reference to the loss on ignition of the material in each cyclone of the
preheater making the assumption that no calcination is taking place in the upper stage cyclones.
Q: so3 content in fine coal ash: why so3 increases in fine coal ash as compared to raw coal ash.IN OUR
PLANT KILN FEED RETURN DUST GET MIXED HOT GASES ENTERING IN COAL MILL
A: Possibly there is some absorption of SO2 from the preheater exhaust onto the fine coal in the coal
mill. A volatile balance of the internal and external cycles needs to be developed to fully explain
this.
Q: We have the clinker with 1380 litter weight.but still free lime problem.
A: There could be lots of reasons why a hard burnt clinker would have high residual free lime: (i) lime
saturation beyond 100%, (ii) heavy recirculation of sulphate, (iii) excess K2O in clinker, etc. Much
more detail is required. I recommend a technical audit to understand the problem.
Q: what is the technology of raw meal injection in before bypass bag house?
now in our plant we will decrease the dust to bypass so we are afraid about chlorine blockage in
bags of filter so i hear that the solution is injection of raw meal with bypass gases
A: How will you reduce the dust losses through the bypass? Normally that is a good thing to do, but
how? I have never heard of injecting raw meal after the bypass gas has been extracted from the kiln.
Q: cement strength development : dear sir , our cement 3&7 day comp.strength usually are high
(280&350kg/cm2) but 28d is low(440kg/cm2)What could be the reason and what can we do. clinker so3-1.4
, na2o-0.6 ,k2o- 0.42,mgo-2,c3s-62,c2s-15,c3a-6.9,c4af-11
A: The alkalis and aprticularly the Na2O in your cement are high. It is a well known phenomena that
high alkali sulphates in cement leads to higher early strengths but lower 28-day strength. Is it
possible to reduce the alkalis by selective quarrying of raw materials or changes in raw mix design?
Q: Gas cooling before PH Fan: Please explain that in which places is better for gas cooling by water
spraying for capacity increasing: 1-top cyclone 2-downcomer duct 3- below the feed in the upper stage riser
duct? then, please explain how can i calculate needed water(lit/Nm3)? with regards
A: Evaporative cooling of the preheater exhaust gas is best applied in the downcomer duct. The
amount of water needed depends on the drying requirements in the raw mill and coal mill (if any).
Thee amount of water can be calculated by developing a mass and energy balance of the kiln and
then varying the amount of water addition.
Q: white clinker kiln with natural gas Dear Mr. Clark, During white clinker production with firing natural gas,
do we need high secondary air temperature? I have checked some process firing with coal, they have heat
exchangers after C1 and heat ambient air to 200-300 C. They use this hot air as secondary/tertiary air.
What if we fire natural gas, will we need this heat exchanger or can we directly use ambient (cold) air as
combustiona air (secondary/tertiary)? How the combustion and flame will be affected?
A: The combustion efficiency of the natural gas will be improved with preheated secondary/tertiary air.
However, ambient air could be used with some loss of efficiency.
Q: fuel residence time:how to fine the fuel (coal) residence time in calciner/flash furnace
A: You need to calculate two things: (i) the internal volume of the calciner from the dimensions and
refractory thickness, (ii) the stoichiometric volume of the gases in the calciner. Dividing one by the
other will give the gas residence time in the calciner.
Q: Alkali bypass dust: Dear Dr. Clark we are thinking to send the bypass dust to the cooler , is it a good
idea and if yeswhat is the best point in the cooler to inject the dust . knowing that the ratio of the dust to
clinker is 1-1.5% and also we have no issue on the level ofalkalis in cement
A: I would suggest adding the bypass dust to the clinker conveyor away from the cooler.
Q: crossbar cooler efficiency optimization: Dr Clark, I'm about starting a project to optimize our FLS
crossbar cooler. What are the necessary parameters to check, and actions are needed to take?
A: You need to develop a mass and energy balance around the cooler. Then you can adjust the speed of
the cross bars and the airflow through the cooler fans to explore the impact of adjustments on cooler
efficiency and find the best settings.
Q: Please elaborate the causes for ball formation in kiln ? along with remedial steps to eliminate the
chances of ball formation in kiln .
A: Unfortunately there are multiple possible causes of clinker ball formation in the kiln. Often they are
caused by recirculation phenomena in the kiln connected with the adjustment of the main burner.
Without more information it is impossible to be more specific.
Q: Can alkali in clinker be reduced: Wet kiln, high alkali, any way of reducing it, or is it to late once it gets
to this stage.
A: Some of the alkali will be passing out of the kiln in the dust. Therefore some or all of that dust
could be discarded to reduce the alkali content. You could increase the amount of alkali passing out
in the dust by the addition of calcium chloride.
Q: Dear Sir, what is the possible effect of ID fan draft on raw meal to clinker factor
A: The draft drawn by the preheater induced draft fan can affect the kiln feed to clinker factor because
the amount of dust lost from the top stage of the preheater depends on the velocity of the exhaust
gas drawn out of the top stage of the preheater.
Q: Effect of Sulpher Alkali ratio Hello Dr. Clark, Ideally the value of Alkali Sulpher ratio of clinker should be
as close to 1 as possible - My asking is if this value decreases (say -4) or or increases (say +4) then what's
the effect of produced cement because of this abnormal value?
A: The immediate problem is usually on the coating formed in the preheater, which can become very
hard if the alkali:sulphur ratio is low. There will be more subtle effects on the cement quality as the
amount of soluble alkalis in clinker will be changed and some alkali will be present in the clinker
minerals if the alkali:sulphur ratio is high. It might become difficult to fully combine the clinker if
the K2O content is high.
Q: Ring formation: Dear Dr. Clark, We are facing frequent kiln stoppages due to ring formation in 42-49m
away from kiln discharge end. We are using mixture of pet coke and coal as a fuel. Clinker LSF is 95-96,
SM 2.24-2.29, AM 1.5-1.6.Refractory used is in this area is high alumina brick (70%), not changed for 3
years. Fuel ash content is 11-12%. Liquid phase is 28-29% @ 1450 centigrades. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
A: There could be many reasons. The chemistry of the clinker is not unusual. It is more likely a process
related problem. Using a mixture of pet coke and coal as the fuel is likely to be a contributory
factor. This is generally a bad practice.
Q: How we can increase output ? if kilnis wet based on wet lime sludge
A: You make a major upgrade to the dry or semi-dry process or take steps to reduce the kiln feed slurry
moisture content.
Q: reasons for yellow clinker being produced continously with good clinker.Solution to solve this
problem.
A: It is common to have yellow cores to the clinker due to high temperature reduction. Smaller clinker
particle size will help to reduce these yellow cores to the clinker granules.
Q: What is the Minimum volume, Velocity of air required to convey the coal to bin and as well as
to furnace. We need to convey the crushed coal to silo and also from silo extration to furnace through FK
Pump so please advice the volume of air and velocity to be maintained to convey the coal. Material-Fine
Pet Coke Operating Capacity-2 TPH Bulk Density -0.6 Cu M/T Max Moisture-2% Particle size-75
Micron with 2 % residue.
A: The rule of thumb is that you need a minimum of 0.2kg of air per kg of fine coal. If transporting
over a long distance then more. The pipe work dimensions should be such to ensure an air velocity
of more than 25 m/s.
Q: What the side effects if the loss of cyclone 5 is very low?Is there any effect on kiln coating and
in which area?
A: The danger with very low loss on ignition in the lower cyclone of the preheater is that the
calcination will be completed in the preheater and then the temperature will rise quickly as the
endothermic calcination reaction is no longer absorbing the energy input to the kiln. That rising
temperature might lead to melt formation and clogging of the preheater.
Q: Setting time and water demand: We have one open circuit mill that we have been using for some time
and the water demand and setting time has been o.k. We recently installed a new roller press (close
circuit). With the same clinker and gypsum the water demand has been higher and the setting time
longer.Sales dept are complaining. What can we do to shorten the setting time and water demand to what
we have on the open circuit mill?
A: This is a common problem when switching from open circuit grinding. There is not much that can
be done as the particle size distribution of the cement willl be different. You can try adjusting the
SO3 content of cement.
Q: What is the reason for kiln feed pipe blockage? Our kiln is 4 stage precalciner kiln. The average total
alkali is 0.16% while average SO3 is 0.09%. The kiln feed pipe has been discovered to be blocking
regularly now. can the alkali or SO3 be the reason?
A:It is unlikely that the problem is caused by alkalis or sulphate. The kiln feed pipe blockages may be
caused by chloride. There could also be a physical problem preventing the feed flowing freely from
the pipe.
Q: Alkali bypass: I newly start working in a plant, all lines are equipped with bypass system . in raw meal Cl
= .03 ,Na2O =0.1,K2O=.52, in Clinker Cl=.01, Na2O=.16 ,K2O=.85. we use crude oil as fuel . is it really
necessary to have alkali by pass system with this chemical composition. I have already started
reducing the bypass but at the same time the feed is reduced
A: With that level of chloride in raw meal there is probably a need for a bypass to avoid chloride
clogging of the preheater. The bypass fan provides additional drafting on the kiln which may
explain why the production goes down as you close the bypass.
Q: reasons for dusty clinker production and steps to get good nodules
A:Dusty clinker is caused by low viscosity and surface tension of the liquid phase in the kiln. Most
commonly that arises from high SO3 content in the hot meal. That arises from heavy recirculation
of SO3 in the kiln. That arises from lack of oxygen and reducing burnign conditions at some point
in the kiln. You need to increase the oxygen content in the kiln and improve the combustion
conditions for the fuel.
Q: What will happen to clinker C3S, C2S and C3A if SM target was increase?
A: C3S and C2S will rise, C3A will reduce.
Q: Sir, Why we multiply with 2.8 to Sio2, 1.18 to Al2O3 & 0.65 to Fe2O3 in LSF formula i.e. CaO/
(2.8SiO2+1.18Al2O3+0.65Fe2O3)
A: These are the coefficients in the Lea and Parker formula for the maximum combinable lime in
Portland cement clinker. They are derived from the phase equilibria of the CaO-SiO2-Al2O3-
Fe2O3 system.
Q: Preheater cyclone - foundation loads estimation due to blockage, full or partial material filling?
During the civil design of the preheater building, it is needed to provide the extra-ordinary live load
due to material blockage in the preheater cyclones. Please advise if it is safe enough to assume the
material filling in the conical part only, or it should be assumed that the material is filling the
cyclone completely including the cylindrical part also? Thanks.
A:For design you should assume filling completely.
Q: chemical and physical analysis for white cement (LSF- SIM -ALM & C3S - C2S - C3A -
C4AF)?
A:LSF = 95%, SM = 4+, AM = 10+. C3S = ~60%, C2S = ~20%, C3A = ~15%, C4AF <1%. Strengths
higher than grey cement due to higher silicate content.
Q: sir what will be the effects of low SM in clinker and on kiln operation,and if we add sand in raw
mix then what are the effects of this sand on kiln and clinker chemistry.
sir i am chemist in Arabian yemen cement company,plz brief me.thanks
A:Low SM in clinker will lead to low silicate content and lower cement strengths. In the kiln there
will be more flux (liquid content) and maybe more coating. Adding silica sand will raise the silica
modulus and lead to more silicates in clinker and higher cement strength. However, you must make
sure the silica sand is ground sufficiently fine in the kiln feed or there will be problems combining
the clinker in the kiln.
Q: What is the reason behined fine clinkerisation even with sub bitumenous coal.
We are facing heavy dust recirculation inside the kiln from cooler , even we operate kiln with low
lsf 95 % ,with 28 % liquid.with sub bitumeneous coal.
A:Most probably the problem is caused by high recirculation of sulphate in the kiln. That is most
likely arising from oxygen deficient combustion at some point in the kiln.
Q: Hi Dr. What is the major factor that affecting setting time? Can higher clinker SM and lower
C3A delay the setting time or is there any other major factors which is more relevant.
A:There are more relevant factors, such as: the alkali and sulphate content of the clinker, or the
presence of any fluoride in the clinker.
Q: When Dryer was installed under kiln shell, shell temperatures shot up?
We have installed an RDF dryer under kiln shell, due to what ambiant temperatire under the shell is
almost double than that other areas arround the shell. We have observed kiln shell high temperatures
than usual. When it was brought down, the shell temperatures become normal. We also observed
frequen form/fall of coating in burning zone.What is this phenomena?
A:The kin relies on losing energy by radiation to cool the shell. Your drier has compromised the
cooling of the kiln shell.
Q: lime stone is pure cristaline calcite @ 87% T.CO3 and in the same bench it has very low
T.CO3% as pegmatite or gniees with 16 % MgO , sir our raw mill is 170 TPH VRM and is there
any difficulty of raw mill fine grinding of this calcite and gniees
dear sir , good evening. here in kenya we are going to instal 3000 TPD clinker unit with 170 TPH
VRM for raw mix and is there any difficult to get fine grinding like 212 mic residue up to 2% and
90 mic residue up to 18% with this lime stone pure calcite crystalline and bottom layer is very low
phlegmatic or genies with 2 to 16% mgo. one place we find low cao stone with 56 silica and i came
to know that this stone silica should not be good reactive as it formed from calcite washed with
water and cao is eliminated. i think that in ball mill we can maintain finesse as we required. please
give me reply at the earliest thanking you RAO . Y . S NATIONAL CEMENT CO. LTD NAIROBI
- KENYA
A:There is no reason to suppose that a VRM would not be able to grind this material while a ball mill
would.
Q: Why First chamber length is smaller than second chamber in ball mill
A:Because the first chamber is for crushing the material and the second chamber is for fine grinding.
Q: WHPG
Dear Dr. Clark, Really long time no see! I read the article with interest titled as 'WHR on the rise' in
ICR JUNE 2012 because our company has pushed ahead with WHPG. We run three calciner kilns
as you may know and the total daily capacity is about 11,000 t/d. The preliminary result from a
chinese supplier shows it's possible to generate around 12MW from three kilns excluding selfcomsumption
power by the steam Rankine cycle under the conditions of running all mills. My
asking is what the possible power is by using the Kalina cycle, and whether we can see the Kalina
cycle if we visit any steam power station here because you say the kalina cycle was invented for
such uses. It's time to enjoy an excursion for viewing autumn leaves! Best Regards.
A:Dear Obong, I suggest you should contact Kevin Happ at FL Smidth. They should be able to take
you to see a reference installation.
Q: How much Coal Ash should be absorbed by 1 ton clinker during clinker production
A:That depends on the ash content and calorific value of the coal. You must deliver enough thermal
energy to combine the clinker. The amount of ash that involves can then be caculated and the kiln
feed chemistry adjusted to give the target clinker composition.
Q: what are the possible causes of kiln dusty condition and snowman formation at the cooler inlet.
A:Most likely this is caused by high sulphate recirculation in the kiln. That is most likely caused by
the adjustment of the kiln main burner.
Q: to remove dam-ring
Dear Mr. Dr. Clark Excuse me , Please tell me , Which ways you suggest to remove the dam-ring in
outlet of rotary kiln information ? Thank You
A:You can try some water via a lance through the kiln hood.
Q: Rhino Horn on Kiln Burner Tip
Sir, I am working in Cement Plant in Nigeria and Rhino horn at the Burner Tip is a recurrent
phenomenon, Can you please shed light on this. We are operating on Gas ( Majorly) and Oil when
we experience drop in gas pressure.
A:Rhino horn is formed by dust carried back into the kin with the secondary combustion air. The air
loses velocity above the burner and that causes some ofthe dust to settle and build up on top of the
burner.
Q: is there any ration between kiln internal effective volume / preheater cyclone and raiser ducts
volume
dear sir, good evening i asked this question in last month also. my question is - is there any relation
by means of volume ration between kiln and preheater effective volumes. please explain me
thanking you sir
A:Certainly. Gas from calcination is evolved a certain rate in a cement kiln dependent on the
production rate of the kiln. The volume of the different sections controls the residence time of the
gases and the cross-sectional area controls the velocity of the gas flow.
Q: what is the effect of high alumina content of raw meal on kiln bricks?
what is the effect of high alumina of raw meal on kiln bricks as well as clinker quality?
A:There should be no effect on kiln bricks. The clinker mineral composition will be changed with
more C3A. That is not bad for clinker quality, just different.
Q: How to minimize the quantity of bypass without decreasing the chloride in kiln feed?
How to minimize the bypass quantity without decreasing the chloride percentage only in the kiln
feed or by new methods which minimize the loose in kiln feed?
A:The only way is to regularly monitor and model the volatile cycle in the kiln and reduce the bypass
opening to achieve a target hot mean chloride content.
Q: How best the CBA-Gammametrics installed for raw mix proportioning will help to reduce the
quality varition of the raw meal?
Dear Dr.Clark, There is one propotial of installing the Gammatrics -CBA at the raw materials belt
for their stacking with target quality. The limestone deposite is very uniform, %CaO is 51.0 to
54.0% which is consumed around 80%. The clay has very high variation in SiO2 and also in Al2O3,
which is consumed around 12-15%. Sand is in the range of 2.0 to 5.0% and Lateriate around 2.0%
for Fe2O3.There is a plan to form mix bad with proportionated ratio of Clay and Limestone
(1:6,adjuted to the requirement Al2O3)for chevron stacking and bridge type reclaiming to preblend
the clay and reduce the variation. In this condition, is it beneficial to install the Gamma metrica
CBA in between the raw materials proportioning station and to the VRM to minimize the raw meal
quality variaiton? At present without CBA the SD of the raw meal is around 5.0.Isthere any scope to
reduce further?
A:I presume you mean that the standard deviation of the lime saturation of the raw mill product is 5%?
Certainly there is scope to reduce this. I suggest that the cross-belt analyser should be installed on
the feed of crushed material to the premix bed of limestine and clay.
Q: red river
dear sir,we have SF-COOLER 4*4.most of time we see red river and molten clinker in cooler in
different points and mechanical engineers are worry about damage to cooler grates.we want to
know if cooler grates are damaged due to this phenomena or grates are protected by af a dead
material layer (50mm on grates)above them.what is the reason and solution of red river?
A:You should not suffer red rivers in a cross-bar cooler. The transportation mechanism for the clinker
are the cross-bars above the grates. However, as those cross bars are moving above the grates there
should be a layer of dead material lying on top of the grates and below the cross-bars so that will
offer some protection to the grates from red-hot clinker.
Q: Dear Sir! What should be the refractory consumption (kg/ton clk) for white kiln?
A:You would hope it would be less than 0.5kg per tonne of clinker produced.
Q: kiln speed
dear sir,our kiln is 4000tpd(fls designing),diameter=4.8m,length=75m,ILC system,kiln
inclination=3%,kiln filling=12.5% and according to fls instruction in feed=270tph(nominal feed),
kiln speed is 4.2(to reach 12.5% kiln filling).if in this condition we run the kiln with speed 3.5
instead of 4.2 for a long time,what will be the bad consequence?in fact we want to know
disadvantages of low kiln speed.
A:Slow kiln speed can lead to the free lime liberated at the back of the kiln becoming stabilised and
more difficult to fully combine into the clinker minerals. That then leads to the thermal energy
consumption of the kiln rising and the clinker production rate falling.
Q: I am from ethiopia, in our cement factory the snowmen is within short period of time happened
continously in grate cooler, what are the reason behind there?
1.Generally, in our cement factory there is so many problem but some of them are continuously
snowmen formation in grate cooler or around clinker out late area for this what are the main causes
for snowmen formation and methods of improving the systems etc. 2.what are the reasons for
formations of more dust particles or blockages of Tertiary air duct and methods of improving
A:I have been travelling to Ethiopia regularly over the last few years where I have been monitoring
the construction of the Derba Midroc cement factory. Snowmen are caused by the clinker entering
the cooler from the kiln continuing to have some melted phases. The only way to reduce the
problem is by control of the alkali cycles within the kiln or operating with a lower secondary air
temperature.
Q: lsf-92.90, sm-2.26 , am-1.30 , but kiln feed not increasing .what reason
A:There could be many reasons. The kiln feed will not increase by itself. You need to respond to
opportunities to increase the feed rate to the kiln.
Q: How to get Excel based model of the alkali cycles, that your demonstrated at Cemtech in Dubai
and Jakarta?
Dear Dr.Clark, Could you please guide me to get the Excel based model of the alkali cycles, that
you demonstrated at Cemtech in Dubai and Jakarta?
A:The only way to gain access to Whitehopleman's Excel based model of the alkali cycles in cement
kilns is to retain Whitehopleman as your technical consultants.
Q: How to calcualate or simulate the alkali enrichment in the preheater when alkali rich material is
used as additive?
I am substituting Trass for Sand to get silica in the raw mix. The trass contains 1.2% K2O and 3.2%
Na2O. Consequently, the total alkalies in the raw meal inceases from 0.34 % to 0.56%. How
calculate or simulate the alkali enrichment in the preheater circulation material?
A:It is of course possible to do this with an Excel based model of the alkali cycles, as I demonstrated
at Cemtech in Dubai and Jakarta. However, it is not just a question of calculating. That depends on
yhe volatility of the Na2O and K2O, which is dependent on the amount of chloride and sulphate
present. It is too complicated for a simple calculation and depends on a model. However at 0.56%
total alkali there should be no problems.
Q: kiln speed
dear sir,kiln feed is 275tph(nominal capacity)and kiln speed is 3.6 rpm .speed is at least 0.5 rpm less
than required speed for the feed.if we run the kiln in this situation(kiln low speed),what will be the
bad consequence ?
A:How do you calculate the required kiln speed? 3.6 rpm sounds OK without knowing more about the
kiln. I can't imagine any bad consequences (although I am normally in favour of high kiln speed).
Q: Dear Dr. Clark, My question is about the pneumatic conveying of coal through FK pumps
The FK pumps for coal conveying is provided with nozzles through which the blower air is
entering. My question is for a stand by system (Common for kiln and calciner) where we have two
different volume requirements. The volume of transport air for kiln is dropping by around 40% due
to change of kiln burner. If we keep the same FK pump with reduced volume what problems are
expected and what is the remedial action.
A:Your standby FK pump must have sufficient volume for the larger of the two coal transport
requirements (probably the calciner). Too much volume and hence velocity is no problem. Too
small volume and hence velocity can lead to drop out of the fine coal and pulsing of the fine coal to
the burner - a very bad situation making the kiln uncontrollable.
Q: CKD
Dear sir.some days before i had asked a question about cement klin dust and its impact on
clinkarization if it is fed to kiln in un-blended form.please answer my question.
A:Where will you feed it to the kiln? From where in the kiln does the dust come from? The exhaust
gas dust filter? Or the bypass? If from the exhaust gas filter, but fed continuously with feed from the
homogenisation silo then there should be no problem.
Q: my guestion i need some data for how to save energy consumption on cement industry
which taken hot gases from PH +cooler and by -pass to generated power about 4-16 MW
A:There are many ways to save energy in cement manufacturing. The first step is undertake an energy
audit to assess the current situation and identify the opportunities for savings. Generating electrical
energy from the waste heat flow from the kiln could be one of the opportunities identified by such
an energy audit.
Q: sir kiln burning temp. 1450 but free lime free lime frequently comin what reason
A:There could be many reasons. Perhaps the lime saturation of the clinker is more than 100%. Perhaps
there is breakdown of CaSO4 to CaO and SO2 in the burning zone. Perhaps there is variable
granulometry of the kiln feed. Perhaps there is variable ash content of the fuel used to fire the kiln.
Perhaps the 1450C burning zone temperature is inaccurate.
Q: kiln feed to clinker factor & raw mill to kiln feed factor give me process
A:The raw meal to clinker factor is given by 1/(1- Loss on ignition at 1000C). The kiln feed to clinker
factor is this raw meal to clinker to factor plus the dust losses from the top of the preheater, with
appropriate adjustment for the incorporation of the ash from the fuel used to fire the kiln into the
clinker.
Q: Sulphur-to-alkali ratio
Hi Dr. What is the normal used formula for sulphur-to-alkali ratio and what is its preferred control
range and why?
A:(K2O/94 + Na2O/62 - Cl/71)/(SO3/80). Ideally the value should be as close to 1 as possible, i.e. the
alkalis and sulphate should be in molar balance. That means the alkali will be present as sulphates.
There will not be excess sulphate present as calcium sulphate and there will not be excess alkalis
which can inhibit combination of the clinker.
Q: free CaO
Dear Dr. Clark is there an estimate of 1% free CaO increase in clinker on its calorific consumption
(kcal/kg of clinker)?
A:I don't think there is a direct method of calculating that. FL Smidth's method of calculatng the heat
of formation of clinker could perhaps be adapted to give an estimate.
Q: kiln feed
What are the targets for kiln feed MA,MS and LPH
A:That depends on the clinker composition you want to manufacture, the fuels used to fire the kiln and
their ash content. It is part of the process of raw mix design.
Q: white cement
like grey cement can we install tretiary air duct from kiln to preheater as in white cement kiln hood
gets always posative.
A:Due to the clinker being quenched in water as it falls from a white cement kiln it is difficult to
preheat the combustion air for firing the fuels in the kiln by recovering thermal energy from the
clinker. Therefore a tertiary air duct is not normally provided and ambient air preheated through
heat exchangers is used to provide the combustion air for the precalciner.
Q: Yellow stack
Dear Sir, We are continuously observing the stack color as yellow while our chemical analysis
shows every thing like sulfur, chlorides at normal level.What will be the reason. Regards
A: My suspicion would be that this caused by NOx emissions. Do yu monitor NOx in the emissions?
Q: cement temprature is high 135 maximum what effect in cement. gie me reason
A:At this temperature the gypsum in the cement will be fully dehydrated to anhydraite and there is
likely to be coating of the grinding media and loss of grinding efficiency in the mill. The reason is
inadequate cooling in the mill. That cooling should be provided by ambient air sweeping the mill
but is also likely to require water injection dependent on the dimension of the mill.
Q: sir my kiln feed takn 420 tph but kiln load increase 600 what reason & give me controling
method .
A:I would need to know what the 600 refers to? The kiln drive motor kW or amps? Also what is the
normal operating range?
Q: our kiln is of diameter 3.7M and 54M long.I have observed frequently that when the kiln feed
residue is low ie around 7% the clinker fcao rise to above 4% and bulk density high as 1450 g/l
A:The first question is why does the kiln feed residue reduce to around 7%? Is this because there has
been segregation of the kiln feed and the lime rich fines are being delivered to the kiln? In that case
an increase in clinker free lime would be expected as the lime saturation might be so high that the
clinker cannot be fully combined. Perhaps the kiln operators increase fuel supply to try to combine
the uncombinable feed and hence the clinker density rises due to overburning.
Q: Normal LSF into homo silo, very low LSF from homo silo outlet
We milled LSF average of 95%, SR of 2.65 and residue of 13.5% on 100micron and 2.8% on
200micron into our CF silo to 55% level.(The capaciity of the silo is 10,000) The kiln stopped
thereafter. When we were recirculating the feed in preparation for kiln start-up, the LSF of the
samples from the ex-silo started decreasing from 96% until it got to 76% and remain constant.
There was also increase in SR from 2.42 to 2.82. Residue from 14 to 17% on 100micron and 2.7 to
5 on 200 micron. We could not feed the kiln because of this. What do yo think is responsible for this
change in the chemistry?
A:It is a common problem of segregation in the silo. The coarser, silica fraction stays in the silo and
only comes out when you reduce the silo level.
Q: LSF FORMULA
Dear sir,kiln feed is: Cao=42.3%, Mgo=2.7% ,sio2=12.90%, Al2o3=3.37%, Fe203=2.23% .some
plants do not consider Mgo in calculation of LSF and they use the formula LSF=100*cao/
(2.8*sio2+1.18*Al203+0.65*Fe2o3)is it right?or they should add 0.75*Mgo in numerator. if we
want to announce kiln feed LSF with above analysis what should we say about LSF?
LSF=102(without Mgo)or LSF=105(with considering Mgo).
A:Normally for kiln feed LSF the MgO is not included.
Q: clinker size
dear sir,kiln feed parameters are as follow: LP=26-27%,SM=2.3-2.5,AM=1.3-1.5,LSF=93-
96,Mgo=2.2-2.8%,residue on 90 mic=14-16%,residue on 210 mic=3-4% 65% of total fuel in
calciner and 35% in main burner(ILC-4STAGE) most of time ,clinker coming out of kiln is
coarse(size 100-150 mm)and we have problem in cooling process in SF-COOLER.why do we have
such coarse clinker and what is the effective factors on clinker size ?
A:You have a relatively high liquid content in the clinker at the burning zone temperature and a coarse
residue on a 200 micron sieve. These are the most likely causes of your coarse clinker. How much
SO3 is there in clinker? Adding some SO3 should reduce the clinker particle size.
Q: TYRE DRIVE FUELS? which is best place in pre-heater where tyre pieces entered, either it is
calciner top or kiln inlet
A:Chips of tyres would be better entered into the calciner.
Q: calciner firing
dear sir, since 10 days ago,when we missed one of the two inlet meal pipe that goes into
calciner(lower pipe connected to calciner reduction zone clogged),fuel consumption in calciner and
then kcal/kg.cl has been increased about 5% but outlet gas temperatures from cyclones did not
increased(even decreased about 10-20 deg).we want to know the reason.
A:The temperature distribution in the calciner will have been changed. The feed diverted down the
lower pipe is intended to absorb the thermal energy in the gases rising out of the kiln. This is not
being so absorbed before the feed and fuel enters the calciner.
Q: How to increase the atox mill (Vertical roller mill) output for coal grinding?
We have the atox mill 27.5 for coal grinding and output was 56 TPH but it was designed for 72
TPH. We maintaining atox DP 390 mmwg but as per calculation we can maintain DP upto 520
mmwg. Velocity above the roller is 3.96 m/sec against design 4.5 m/sec. If we increase the value
upto standard we can increase the TPH or not? Dam ring height is 115 mm and nozzle ring gap is
45 mm. We have inclined nozzle at 45 deg. & nozzle velocity comes around 95 m/sec. Velocity at
outlet of atox mill is 17 m/sec against the standard 10 m/sec.
A:Certainly you need the gas velocity through the mill body to lift the fines to and through the
separator. But the velocity at the mill outlet is high? How can the velocity be low above the rollers
and high at the mill outlet? What is the temperature profile across the mill?
Q: How many reason behind the increasing in kiln torque (including mechanical, electrical,
Process) ?
We have the problem in kiln, the torque of kiln suddenely rises and then drop down suddenely, what
is the reason behind this & how we can control this? What is the reason behind the high Kiln
torque?
A:There can be lots of reasons for this. The torque is the force that must be applied by the kiln drive
motor to turn the kiln. As the torque rises and falls suddenly it is most likely process related. There
are two process related factors that affect the kiln torque: (i) the amount of material in the kiln, and
(ii) the "stickiness" of the material in the kiln and its tendency to "climb" up the kiln wall with the
rotation of the kiln. I suspect the second is your problem. As the amount of liquid phase varies with
temperature the "stickiness" of the material varies. This can change suddenly with varying
temperature in the kiln or chemistry of the kiln feed.
Q: Andesite
Hi my friends What Andesite is?and how affects on kiln feed and burning condition? Best regards
A:Andesite is an extrusive, igneous rock. It can have silica content from 40 to 70%. It would not
normally be a cement raw material but the silica would combine with lime in the same was as clay
minerals or silica sand. It is necessary to check the composition for other oxides to ensure there are
no adverse affects.
Q: Dear Sir! How can we calculate the dust load at kiln inlet?
A:You cannot calculate this, only estimate it.
Q: By Pass System
Dear sir, Our plant is designed with 20% bypass system. During running our contractor close the 5
chamber of bypass bag house and keep the suction of fan same as before. Is it still 20 %.
A:I need more information. You mean the speed of the fan was kept the same with 5 chambers of the
bypass baghouse closed? You need to ask your contractor why they did that.
Q: burner movement
dear sir,is it right that burner position adjustment(pushing forward or backward)should be done only
during kiln stop and when the kiln is running we are not allowable to move the burner inside or
outside because it may damage to refractories and bricks.
A:
No. The position of the burner can be adjusted while the kiln is running, but this must be done very
cautiously. The position and length of the the burning zone will be significantly changed by any
burner position adjustments, backwards or forwards. It can be done, but only in gradual steps
observing the effects of each small change for a number of hours before making the next one.
Q: relation between dedusting cyclone efficiency & dust loading to kiln exhaust fan
A:There is an inverse relationship between preheater cyclone collection efficiency and dust loading to
the preheater induced draft fan. As the preheater cyclone collection efficiency rises so the dust
loading to the preheater induced draft fan will fall.
Q: Sir, what is reason of high residue of kilnfeed compparion of rawmeal residue ? Our rawmeal
residue is 5.0 to 6.0 and kilnfeed residue is 10 to 12
A:This can only be explained with reference to two possibilities: (i) the handling of the dust lost from
the preheater, and/or (ii) the sampling of the raw meal and the kiln feed.
Q: COMPRESSIVE STRENGTH
dear sir,we need to increase initial compressive of cement(2 days compressive) and we can do that
by increasing LSF or blain and these changes are costly[more fuel consumption in kiln(LSF) or less
production capacity in cement mill(BLAIN)].what are another ways to increase considerably initial
compressive of cement?
A:The best way would be to mineralise the clinker ccombination by the addition of calcium fluoride
and calcium sulphate to the kiln feed. That allows more C3S to be combined in the clinker without
the attendant increase in kiln thermal energy consumption. This is sophisticated technology and you
need to be able to monitor the real mineralogy of the clinker produced.
Q: calorific value
Among the following fuels which one has d higher calorific value; 1 coal 2 petcoke 3 natural gas 4
AGO 5 LPFO 6 HFO and others
A:Calorific value is the heat content per unit weight or volume of the fuel. Heavy fuel oil and LPFO
would have similar calorific values. Petcoke will be lower and coal lower still in terms of MJ/kg.
Natural gas calorific value would be in heat content per unit volume rather than weight therefore not
directly comparable. I do not know what AGO is.
Q: Differential pressures
1. what is differential pressure and can we control it? 2. why do we measures differential pressures
for a. Mills b. Bag house and other equipments in cement industries?
A:Differential pressure is the difference between the pressure at the inlet and outlet of an item of
equipment. It is related to the flow of gas through the equipment and the resistance to that flow
presented by the equipment. We monitor the differential pressure to monitor the flow and the
change in the resistance to that flow, i.e by blinding of baghouse are build-up of material within the
equipment.
Q: Dr. What is concrete workability and what is the best way to measure workability in laboratory
beside slump test?
A:Workability is a combination of the ease of placing concrete in a mould and the consistency of the
concrete, i.e. the tendency of the concrete to segregate into its constituent fractions. It is related with
the quantity and the reactivity of the C3A component of the clinker and the amount and mineral
form of the calcium sulphate in the cement. Besides slump you can get some indication of
workability from the flow of standard mortar measured on a flow table and the water demand of the
mortar to achieve a certain flow. This is one of the most difficult quality parameters to control
requiring that the gypsum addition to cement be matched to the amount and reactivity of the C3A in
clinker and the temperature regime in the cement be closely controlled.
Q: What is the difference between fineness in blaine and in residue? Can we correlate both
together?
A:You can expect there to be an inverse relationship between Blaine and residue. As Blaine rises so
residue at a particular sieve size should fall. The relationship will not be perfect as other factors
such as the cement mill configuration and clinker grindability will affect both Blaine and residue.
That is why both should ideally be monitored and controlled.
Q: How much quantity of wtwe required to reduced temp. from 320 oC to 250 oC in GCT.
A:That depends on the mass of the exhaust gas whose temperature you want to reduce. You need to
develop a mass and energy balance for the gas conditioning tower.
Q: Dr. If we substitute natural gypsum with synthetic gypsum and the only difference is the pH of
the synthetic gypsum is very low (between 1 - 3), will it affect the quality of cement produced?
Purity content is almost similar for both.
A:Yes, I would expect this synthetic gypsum to affect the quality of the cement produced. The
hydration of cement produces calcium hydroxide as one of the reaction products. The acidity of the
gypsum will react with that calcium hydroxide.
Q: If we stored clinker at open stockpile where it was vulnerable to prehydration due to rain and
humidity,can we still used the clinker for cement grinding?If can, what is the best control parameter
to monitor its addition so that cement quality is maintain
A:You can still use the clinker with a controlled addition rate to the cement mill. Perhaps 10 or 15%
maximum. You should control the fineness of grinding to a residue target rather than a surface area
target.
Q: Is a rotary airlock / air seal required before feeding to v-separator? Pls explain.
A:A V-separator relies on the feed falling through gases ascending through the separator. You do not
want the ascending gases to rise through the feed chute so you need some sort of air seal.
Q: What is the difference in particle size distribution and strength between product from open
circuit grinding (product coming out from mill will straight away drive into silo without go through
separator for material separation) and closed circuit grinding
A:The particle size distribution will be wider with open circuit grinding than with closed circuit
grinding at equivalent Blaine. The separator has the effect of sending coarse grains back to the mill
for regrinding. This means there will also be less super-fines at the equivalent Blaine. Whether the
strength will be higher or lower depends on the Blaine. At low Blaine (3000 cm2/g) I expect that the
strength from an open circuit mill would be as high or even higher as a closed circuit mill. At higher
Blaine (4000 cm2/g) I expect that the strength from a closed circuit mill would be higher.
Q: Dear Sir! What are the effects, if we increase the coal channel area of burner pipe a little to
avoid chocking?
A:You will change the injection velocity of the coal. Better to control the fineness of grinding of the
coal to ensure there are no large particles that can cause choking of the coal channel.
Q: why the cement stick on the silo wall and the bulk trucks wall
why the cement stick on the silo wall and the bulk trucks wall.. our cement analysis is SiO2 Al2O3
Fe2O3 CaO MgO SO3 K2O Na2O 20.49 5.04 3.67 64.34 2.05 2.48 0.13 0.23 LSF SM AM C3S
C2S C3A C4AF 97.95 2.35 1.38 55.01 11.92 7.17 11.14 Sieve Blain F.l 9 2950 1
A:The analysis of your cement is probably irrelevant. The alkalis are not high. The problem is most
likely delayed hydration of the gypsum in the cement. I will post my article "Hornblower's first
command". Read that for further explanation.
Q: Dear Sir, In our Rotary Kiln Burning zone bricks got burnt almost 70% in thickness with in a
week period of bricks installation,we request you to kindly give your opinion that the reason for
failure of bricks
A:There could be many reasons: the warming up procedure; interruptions in the warming up
procedure; the application of fuel and temperature control during the warming up procedure; the
quality of the bricks installation; the quality of the bricks; the chemistry of the feed; etc. It is
impossible to say without a full analysis of the causes of the failure.
Q: Dear sir plz tell me main chemical reactions in kiln and also how they took place.thax.faisal ejaz
A:The main chemical reactions are the calcination of the calcium carbonate and the subsequent
combination of the liberated free lime with the acid oxides to form the clinker minerals.
Temperature in excess of 850 degrees C is required for the calcination to take place at rapid rate.
Over 1400 degrees C with the formation of liquid phase is required for the final combination to
form C3S.
Q: Dear sir why we use differential pressure in raw mill. Thax faisal ejaz
A:Because the differential pressure across the mill is a function of the gas flow through the mill and
the amount of material being lifted through the mill. These two are also related. The differential
pressure gives an indication of the loading on the mill.
Q: How to calculate the preheater top cyclone efficiency without considering dust loss
A:Dust loss is fundamentally an inverse function of the top stage cyclone collection efficiency.
Therefore you cannot calculate the collection efficiency without considering the dust loss. You
should be able to estimate the dust loss from the indicated kiln feed rate and the changes in the kiln
feed and clinker inventories over time.
Q: What is effect of C.F. intermediate bin material on process and quality of clinker?
Sir, we divert the raw mill discharge air slide bag filter material to intermediate bin of C.F. silo, this
cause any effect on the quality of kiln feed. We add our ESP and GCT material to the CF silo
intermediate bin. Due to addition of raw mill bag filter material to the intermediate bin cause any
serious effect on quality of kiln feed. This is feasible as process point of view?
A:There should be no problem provided that this is done all the time. The boundaries of the mass
balance are the feeders to the raw mill and the clinker discharge from the cooler. What is happening
with recirculating ESP, GCT and raw mill airslide bag filter dust is irrelevant, provided that the
same procedures are followed all of the time.
Q: Dear Sir, please give me idea about how we reduce the rejection in vertical(atox)coal mill
Thanks
A:The only adjustments you can make are the height of the dam ring or the length of the raw coal
delivery chute into the mill.
Q: Dear sir, what is Rhino Horn? Please submit papers in this case
A:Rhino horn is the accumulation of clinker dust on top of the main burner of the kiln.
Q: Info: How to calculat the actual coal consumption for clinker production as during grinding of
coal meal dust coming with hot dust from preheater get mixed with fine coal.Booking the coal as
per flow meter reading of fine coal will lead to stock imbalance
How dust qty mixed with coal could be worked out. Is it correct to calculate the qty of dust on the
basis of C.V difference of raw coal & fine coal.
A:Certainly dust will be entrained into the fine coal. That is why the calorific value and ash content of
the fine coal should always be used when assessing the energy consumption of the kiln. There is no
straight-forward way of measuring the amount of dust in the fine coal as some volatiles will also be
lost during drying. The only way is adjust the amount of coal burnt to match the inventory of the
coal.
Q: Info: Sir, as we know the nitrogen in air reduces the temperature in the combustion
reaction,inside kiln burners. Is it possible to reduce or optimize this scenerio?
A:Oxygen enrichment of the combustion air leads to reduction in the volume of nitrogen and also a
hotter flame.
Q: Info: cement is getting lump in bags within two months; what is the remedy to be adopted in the
manufacturing plant
A:Many cement companies use cement sacks including a plastic membrane between the layers of
paper. Sometimes lumps are formed due to the presence of syngenite in the cement. This can only
be reduced by control of the alkali cycle in the cement kiln.
Q: If there\'s an increase of dust load (kq/m^3) at a specific air density of certain ambient T & P.
Will it affect the air volume or pressure conveyed by a particular forced draft fans (for example,
clinker cooler fans)
A:The dust load in the gas will affect the power drawn by a fan. The volume and pressure for a
particular rotational speed should remain constant.
Q: dear sir,The lsf of kiln feed will be greater or less than the raw meal lsf & why? if i m using
return dust into silo?
A:Because the top stage cyclone of the preheater acts as a separator. The coarsest particles pass down
the preheater to the kiln. The finest particles are not collected and become the dust. Normally the
finest particles are preferentially limestone and therefore the LSF of the dust is higher than the raw
mill product. As the kiln feed is the combination of the raw mill product and the dust it's LSF is
higher than the raw mill product.
Q: Dear Sir,We have kiln with diameter 4.8 M and we are using 220 MM thickness bricks. I want to
change the bricks thickness for whole kiln to 250MM. Is it possible or not with operation point of
view like load ,degree of filling etc.
A:It is possible, although it would be an unusual thing to do. You will increase the thermal load on the
refractory lining in the burning zone as the cross-sectional area of the kiln will be reduced. At the
same clinker output the degree of filling and specific loading of the kiln woould increase. Of course
the clinker output might reduce.
Q: Dear Sir, please let me know in cement mill (ball mill/tube mill)the length of 1st chamber is less
than 2nd chamber.. Awaiting for your valuable reply? (Ali)
A:Normally the length of the first chamber of ball mill is designed such that around 10kW of the mill
motor is drawn by the media in the first chamber of the mill. Normally about 1/3 of the total mill
length.
Q: Can the rate of quenching of the clinker affect the LOI of the cement? Will the LOI of the
cement be affected by the milling stage due to the temperature? Could there be recarbonation?
A:Certainly the cement milling temperature can affect the loss on ignition as the degree of gypsum
dehydration will be affected by the milling temperature. Recarbonation can occur to some extent by
long-term storage of the clinker.
Q: We have ball mill for coal grinding, we maintain the coal mill inlet temperature around 500 deg.
C and we get outlet tempe. 70 deg C. Moisture of coal reduced from 12 % to 7 % this is feasible to
maintain the coal mill inlet tempearature around 530 deg C?
A:The coal mill inlet temperature is already high at 500 degrees C. I suggest that you increase the
volume of hot gas drawn through the coal mill to improve the drying capacity.
Q: Our kilns is 4.75 dia x 75 m length , we face so many a times coating ring formation problem at
22 to 28 meter .
Clinker analysis in general , SM 2.34 , AM 1.28 , LSF 89-90 Liquid 26 +/- 0.5 , MgO 1.05 , SO3
0.45 - 0.55. K2O 0.34 and Na2O .09 We use mostly South Africa A grade 100 % in kiln and A
Grade B grade coal 40:60 % in calciner . though we keep liquid in close watch we face heavy ring
or coating formation in burning zone .How can we come out of problem ?
A:The alumina modulus is low. Raising that should reduce the coating tendency. Beyond that there are
many other considerations such as the ash content of the fuel, how finely the fuel is ground, the
settings of the kiln main burner, etc.
Q: Hi Dr. Clark I'm an Engineering student currently developing a proyect in a cement company
and I was wondering if you could help me. I need to make a heat and mass balance in a VRM.
The mill is an Atox 30 with a hot gas generator with Fuel Oil Nr 6 as fuel. Raw material feed is up
to 100 ton/h and between 6% and 12% humidity. I really need some help with heat and mass
balances from the heat generator to the chimney. Thanks
A:The first step is to construct the mass balance. You need to calculate the gas flow through the mill
from the amount of fuel oil burnt and it's ultimate analysis. Once you have the mass balance then
you calculate the energy balance by multiplying the mass flows by their specific heats at the
operating temperatures and the energy absorbed to dry the raw material.