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After recovering the first shock, my first confusion was with the names in the bracket. One of the names is
Ibne Kathir. OMG! Ibne Kathir's life span is 1301-1373 CE, whereas Imam Razi's 1150-1209 CE!!!
How was it possible for Imam Razi to know the name of Ibne Kathir?
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The Reference book is available on the Internet:
So, the doubt against the writings of Dr. Shabbir Ahmed began to rise. Then I started searching for the
reference he provided and found the Book! So, Let us check that Book:
The original urdu book Hadith-Ul-Qur’an by Allama Inayatullah Khan Al-Mashriqi is available in the following
link:
http://www.aboutquran.com/ba/bio/InayatullahKhan/Inayatullah.Khan_HadisalQuran.pdf
Only the page-190 can be downloaded from this link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/46425814
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A discussion on the reference:
Yes, there is something from which Dr. Shabbir has written this "CONFESSION" thing! It is a poem of
Imam Razi. The poem was partially translated in Urdu by Allama Inayatullah Khan Al-Mashriqi in the
mentioned page, and before and after his urdu translation, he clearly stated (two times) that the portion
he mentioned (in Urdu) was stated in the following poem:
My comment about the Translation of the poem: This poem is very much famous. You just copy any
sentence of the arabic poem, or english translation, google with that, you will get many links.
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I think The bold portion should have been at last.
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Did Dr. Shabbir Ahmed try to take that chance?
The other books that are not available....what about those? Are they also references like this?
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Brother San,
Assalamu Alaikum.
I have had several correspondences with Dr. Shabbir Ahmed.
But, the fact is that Allam a Inayatullah Mashriqi has clearly stated (anyone can download the book or only the page from the
m entioned link , and see by herself/him self ) that all that he has written in the name of Imam Razi was stated in the "following
poem ". And then he m entioned the original Arabic poem .
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>>>I have Allam a Mashriqi's book in Urdu. The late great scholar does not m ention that he translated a poem by Im am Razi.
Dear Brother
Assalam u Alaik um . I do not k now why you said this. Just before the poem m entioned in Arabic, Allam a Inayatullah did clearly
m ention that. Please tak e a close look .
Brother loxbox13
Assalamu Alaikum.
Thank you for the information. But can you give me any reference for that?
The red-m ark ed words are inserted totally by Dr. Shabbir Ahm ed. These words were stated neither by Imam Razi nor by A llama
Mashriqi. But Dr. Shabbir inserted the words in the nam e of Im am Razi, with reference of Allam a Inayatullah.
Thank you.
OK. Thanks.
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