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. .He told me that he could not remember the details of how they determined the exact
location, but that it was in the Hednesfordarea...
. . They
to the
managed to get out there, it was snowing that particular night, and when they got out
particular site, they found two guys sitting in a car by the edge of a field, and no less
than l0 troop carriers, army lories, with about 100 troops milling around and basically all hell
breaking loose...
...These two guys had seen what they had initially thought was a plane coming down in a field.
It looked like like a fire batl with something trailing behind it. When they pulled up and
managed to get out to the field, they described it as a flying saucer. Now when I pressed the
ATV guy, he said that was literally the description they gave "a flying saucer"...
...When the ATV team ..Pulled up at the field, the army was milling around,
them enter would not allow them to basically do anything..
the field and
they would not let

..But a small interview with the driver of the car who seemed to very il . He was
they did
sweating and just shirt
had on
sleeves fact
despite the that it
be
was throwing it down with snow.
When they completed the interview and got back to their van, the camera man actually sneaked
out from the back of the van and did a quite long detour round into the field from the reverse
side..
..He got into the field and found a huge circulaf, burn mark in the field, he got this down on
tape and took it back to the studios. The following day he said that people came from the
Home Office and removed the fiIm..
...What’s interesting is that if you tie this in with the Berwyn Mountains case then you have
got military presence at two fairly spectacular alleged UFO sites in Britain both in January
t974..
. .Inthe Berwyn Mountains sase, we know from the testimony of some of the people involved
that there was a fall of snow that night. In the Stafficrdshire case,the witness told me it was
snowing heavily. It’s entirely possible that both incidents could have occurred in the same time

.
frame..
In the account from the Ex British Army personnel, he said that his unit was based in the
South of England and that they received, and this is the bizare thing, the received advanced
notice that they were going to be required to take part in some sort of operation and on the
specific nigtrt in question they headed up towards Birmingham..
..Now
team
Birmingham is a stones throw from Cannock
eventually made it’s way to North Wales was
which
Chase and it’s entirely possible that the
the very same one seen swarming all
over the chase..
..Gven the fact that the Ex Army guy said they prior knowledge they were going to be
had
required and when I spoke to the ATV guy, told me that the incident at Cannock
he Chase had
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Shorr Tit|e. . .,. . . . U.F.Os.
sorne rather well, rather disturbing quest,ions like dc
the world’s governments conspired in galactic a
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Richard Whitelev: Hallo and welcome to I’Calendar Tuesday’r whoever you afe and
indeed wherever you are.
Well, I say that because this afternoon werre going to ask

as
U.F.Os
exist? Should we
believe people who elaim they’ve had a close encounter of the third kind? Have
cover-up
indeed certain
members of the House of Lords seemed to indicate las! week,or is the whole thing
just plain and simply ’in the mind’? Well, with us to try and answer those que.stions
are lhe Reverend Ray Nielsen who is tlre Secretary of the European Headquart,ers
, ’t,

U.F.Os.
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of the Aetherius Sociely vrhich believes very much in the existence of

have Mr.Brian Straight, a
organisation based in Cleveland
co-ordinator
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County.
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research
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U.F.O.
astronomer and lecturer at Greenwich Planetarium in London and in our London
studio Mr.Patrick Stevens, who’s the ’Assistant Seeretary in the Ain Force
Department of the Ministry of Defence.
Well, beiore we actually get involved in that discussion, let’s first of all see
;{
3 for ourselves fi|ns of reported U.F.Os
shot recently in Italy and in New Zealand,
sightings like these led to the debate in the House of Commons...
oi rathef the
Flouse of Lords last week.
(Filmed extracts)
Well, as the man sald the charrces ar’e a rniiiion to one,but stlii they coina.
.,
Letrs find out if people believe they really are coming. Let’s ask you, f irst of all,
":l?tdi:d Reverend Ray Nielsen, can I hear it first from your own lips, you personally are
100o/o, nay, a 1,000o/o convinced that
Rev. U.F.Os
do exist?
Niglsen: Yes,I have absolutely rro doubt wha[soever, after studying’ the
.
subject very thoroughly, mind you, since 1960.I believe that flying saucers are
here, they have becn coming here for eenturies and the fact thaL there is a
controversy is due that certain information is not released,so therefore theie is
in
argument and I think that information should be made public by all r,.,or[,J
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No.MD.BI
Whitelev: Okay, now you’re holding a model of a
flyinq saucerr you believe, do you, that U.F.os
Rev’ Nielsen: I believe that a certain type oflook like that?
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Continuation No&
9overnments and I agnee absolutely wholeheartediy vrith the Lords debate.
U.F.O.r
craftwhich Adamski* photographed, indeed Stephen Darbyshire of the Lake District
photographed twenty years after Adamski. Itts been featured in almost all
government reports as being widely reported in newspapers, all over the world
’ it’.a
we would’call
,
fiying saucef is like one, this i6
what we in the Aelherius Society refer to as a scout craft, it’sthisthe type of

especially by papers like the Brazilian Press,for example,lvho published fully all
the photographs taken by their Brazilian Navy rnany,rnany years ago and this type
of craft is, shall we say,a very commonly seen craft.
r91r:lgg*lills;:

R’ Whitelev: Okay, well, you’ve made your position perfectly clear, thank you very
much indeed. Heather cooper, as an astronorner, what is your view?
Miss Cooper: My view is that perhaps 95Yo of UFO sightings ean be explained by.:
other phenomena such as meteorological phenomena, natural phenomena in .the
atmosphere and manmade things like balloons. There is perhaps a residue, 5o/o of
in.
sightings, which havenft been explained and those afe the ones we should be
inter’ested Now there has been an attempt to do this, Professor Alan Heinekx, a
very distinguished astro-physics Professor in the SLates,has been analysing the
small minority of sightings which haven’t been explained by other means.gut.l He,s

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whittled it down ’"o about 2o/o now and those 2olo haven’t yet been explained.
think I speak for most astronomers when I say that I think that these ZVa of
sigttLings will be explained by phenomena which perhaps arenrL yet underst.ood, but I
don’l see why we have to start recoursing to imagining people from other
cil’ilieetions ate eonning to contact us and I’d like to describe my thoughts on rhal a
bit laten.
R’to you,
V/hitelev: Yes,okay, well, lots of fascinating points there, but let’s go straiglrt
Bt’iatt because your job at Chrysis is basically when you hear of them you go
out and investigate sigh[ings. People ring you up and say look, there’s been a
sighting artd you nip off straightaway and have a
do?
look. Is that basically what you

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Report No.MD.8l Continuation No.2.

Mr.the sighting
Straioht: Not really, no,it depends very much on horv important we
is. If it’s just lights in the sky,or something lilce that,w:woh’t
bonsidec
bother. lf we get a sighting which is obviously of an unusual object r sayr close to

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the ground seen by a large number of people then we tend to go out on that.
.
Oqt
position, however, is very similar to Heather’s, thaL we believe thal there is at
present absolutely no scientific evidence for the existence of U.F.Os, however
there is after scientific analysis has been applied to UFO sightings a disturbing
residue of eases which are left unexplained. We are more interested in looking’a!
R.V/hitelel.
these unexplained cases in an attempt to try and explain exactly what they are.
Well, Patrick Stevens in London,you.rve heard there the view of
here.
people in the str:dio Can I ask you then what if I may put it this rvay lhu
-the
professional vierv is of the existenee of
withU.F.Os. U.F.Os because one of your. jobs is to deal
Mr. -stevens: Well, I can tell you what the Ministry of Defenee view is and fhat is
very similar to Heather Cooper’s, that there’s no doubt at all that there are
extraordinary phenc’mena in the skies that, can be seen and there’s no doubt in our
mind that most of the reports come from eminently sensibie and responsible people.
The only question is what is behind those plrenomena anC what u.,orries us is the way
people immediately transfer the lerm UFO, theyrve seen sometlring whieh is
unexplained and unidentified and they inrrnediately turn that into a ftying saucer
and they immediately transpose that into alien spaceeraft. There is no evidence
for this whatsoever.
R.Mr.
.
V/hiteley: What about this 2olo that Heatlrer says is unexplained?
Stevens:I think Heather made the point there that there are a grea[ many
extraordinary there are very many sirange reasons to account for the phenomena
and there may well be a residue whieh cannot be explained because you haven’t gol
suf f icient detail, or because you get a conf lict of evidence sometimes and

is.
sometimes the situation is vefy unusual, the atmospheric conditions are rare ancJ
you canrt quite exptain rvhat it It’s rather like a mirage, if you look and see
something in a mirage you eannot possibly know what is the other end of that
mirage r.rnless you have independent evidence. .
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No. MD.8I
R’yourWhitelev:
lips,
Continuation
Just again,I’m anxious to get things quite clear, can I
that officially the Ministry of Defence is not saying
n"".
U.F.os ,. ,t .
No.l.
o ’
it
do not existt
Stevens: What we say is there are strange things to be seen in the sky,what
we say most emphatically is we don’t believe thai those represent alien spaeecrafi,
we donrt believe therers been a single alien spacecraft in our sky.
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R.Rev.
whitelev: Ah, well, you, Ray Nielsen, probably wourdn’t agree with that?
Nielsen: well, of eourse I wouldn’t agree with that.There are a goqd many
r.

people around the world who wouldnft agree with that for the simple reason that if
you research this subject veryr very carefully and, Mr.Stevens, I remember a case
in L962 where werre not talking about a thin pinpoint of light in the sky,we’re
talkir:g about an encounter that a member of this eountry had and he was
five feet away from an object rvhich he described perfectly as a craft this
seventy-
of.
nature. That man released his information after his experience and his account wps
published in the daily Press with a full explanation from your Department saying

that statement. ..
that what hefd seen was the reflections of his headlamps off a low flying cloud and
yet your Department did not investigate that man until the day after you rele’ased
Now that is the kincl of treatmenL i think thaL Lhis the peciple
fed-up
R[eu.-.
in this country are with, is the too simple explanation of something which
obviously is an encounter of a very unusual kind.
Whitelev: Whai yourre saying !sthat iL’s too easy to lauglr it off, whal you
would call is a sighting? .
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R.
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f’,’lig]ren: Yes,absolutely,especially one of that crose proxirnity.
Whitelev: Well, Brian Straight I mean Brian Straight is nct laughing it off,
vou don’t lauah off every claim that’s made do you?
Mr. Nc.
Siraighi: ccitainly not, but Chrysis itself has recourse to a number of
.’.,
people with university backgrounds in everything from astronorny through physics
to psychology and our researches have indieated very strongly that the UFO
phenomena is very much connected with the psychology of the witness.
that this is very important, in that if you examine as Ray said LJFOs have been
We think

mirrors the level of technoiogy of the society in which the witness exists. . . .’
seen for hundreds of years, if you look at the sightings, the UFO itself alvyays
,
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R.Whitelev: Are you saying basieally.... are you saying tiiat a person w-ho
.
actually wants to see a UFO probably will?
Mr.R.Whitelev:
Straiqht: No.
Mr.somestraiqht: because of that state of mind.
No,I’m not saying that, what I,m saying is that there appeafs to

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external phenomenon which be
is very badly undenstood r"hi"h witnesses
interpret in certain waysr exacily what thaL exi.ernal phenomenon ir’r,
very difficult to sayr as I say Romans saw flying. shierds, Americans saw;;;;;; steam-
powered airships, people nowadays see spacecraft.
R,veryWhitelev:. Yes,but I mean the design hasnrt acLually changed, mean
old-fashioned, .l’
’
they’re
theyrve been like that for years and years, havenrt they,
shape? that
Rev’ Nielsen: well, I think logic tells you that if and I,m not uuing dogmatic
here,I’m just saying what we believe and other people too if we believe that these
are intelligently controlled, and I believe they are, then whoever ean manufacture a
craft that earn transverse millions of rrriles of space and stiil be that size must be
R.
pretty well advanced.
Whitelev: Lady and gentlemen,just holcl it there for a couple minutes,I of.
want you all to listen to a clip of tape recorded specially for us by Mr.Raynrond
Cass of Bridlington.
Mr’ cass:UFos ate a visua! phenomenon. Things seen in the sl<y. Voices or radio
signals of unknown onigin are an audio curiosity which nevertheless have interesting
parallels with uFOs. Present cay UFo invcstlgal"crs aic dlvided no.,v between the
nutc and bolts thcory, that is extra-terrestiiat craft of a tanEible nature an,j a rival
and revolutionary hypothesis rapidly gaining ground that the UFos are non-physical,
possibly projections from the collective unconscious of mankind.
 Report, No.MD.B1 Continuat,ion No.5.
tr R’claimwhirelev: weil, Mr.cass there posing a couple of questions, but he goes on to

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that he has in claim recorded unexplained abnormal voices speating.in
polyglot’ thatts an element where two or more voices are combined in one
speech. Listen to this. of iei.
(Extract)
well’ Mr’ cass reckons that he’s reeorded that polyglot far out in space.
we’ve listened to it again and again and again and it seems to be a combination of
sort of German, but we thouEht we heard the word a couple of times ,Elvis,,,
you know Itm being serious, we thought we heard the narne *Ervisr,.
all laughing
8e5_ftretsg", not.
away yourre Now... now,
werre

R. I,m not.
No, you believe that but can I ask you, Mr.Stevens in
V/nitelev: because
London,what do you think about this poryglot elaim, recording voices from out of
space?
Mr’ Stevens:well, it’s very difficult. All I got there was a bit of atmosphenics and
.
a couple of words which might have come from anywhere and l,ve no idea what they
wefet or what was said and I eanrt really comment seriously on that, but vrill
comment on what was said earlier on, vrhieh is that this idea that theseIalien
spacecraft are not material and you find’that the ufologists get forced more and
more into these extraordinary explanations. Tlrey suggesL thai there are Eens of
"
thousands of visifs every yearr itts inconceivabie that these can be fresh
distarrt sorne perhaps ten hundred lighi: years away,so they mustvisits
somevrhere and when it can be proved that they arenft hiding it sornewhere,
have to invent’ the kind of paranormal explanation, thal they corne frompeople
from
be hiding
space time continuanee. other
R’’ v/hiteiev: Heether cooper, I wonde. vrhy don,t these people land-/
Miss cooper: well, there are two wonderful paradoxes vrhich patrick has
up: astrorlomers believe that we are very, very common in the universe, thatbrought
life is
:

probably very likely to be common,we’re made out of the mcst widespread

chemicals and elements and that sort of thing.
universe then.why on earth are all these people coming
.in
okay, so life is common the
to look at us, are rve some
sort of celestial curiosity. so if all these things are indeeci artifacts of another
-isnrl
civilisation comlng to look at us, why are they doing so? on the
common in the universe then why do we see so many UFos? other hand if life
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R.Rev.Whitelev: Why don,t they land then?
Nielsen: rt/ell, have.
they
landed,tnat ar the momenr rhey
ro.
like them ror exampre, in
Ih; ;:.,-n r,^8.
cenrral park or Hyde
strictly by a law we believe whieh
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Continuation IrJo.5.

Richard, is thar they’riave ’ .,

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’unablesf them to directy interfere
will, in other words their introduction
plan’ something rvhieh has arready beeninto our atmosphere is part of
,,
to be helped, but if he treats the subject
:1HT":T":jilil:::"""wmindedness’ then
Rev. Niersenr :.t:r""";J’J.:l ’ " " e r s . . " ; - ; ;
pranned to herp mankind,
with ridicule, J*::::H:
$#ffi *You’re raking rhe brunr of rhis I rhink realry, bur never "r.r(r’
,nino.
,;.,"onru.Orr.with
the

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R.Whitelev: yes.
Rqv. Nielsen: Out of
. . - ’v"
focus.
R’telewhitelev: with the great sophistication ’vvwerveY.’ gotguL tnese
vision anc] so on,why
’ " ] ’ t
Rev’ Niersen: Irve gone into this very, very carefury, as you
and a lct of photographs have b
exanrines an awrur
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can. a s
canwell imagine,
rot or rhem,"::.’:X:",i: :"T"J":":";,;;:l,r,lr"il
r
these days in phctography
and
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ph
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phenomenon but with an awfur
lot of ,".; r;",’ pn"no.enon. It,s
dirricult to photosraph a crear picrure t: :iil
very, very
or phenom"J’llTl""ll:^
force fierd and tiris inierferes, or inte*upts ,n,,""?ln"l’n:rn’ ":r?:,i^;:
around each of rhese space*afr rhar visirs

R’whiterev: what’s your viewclear-eut

you cannot get an absolutely .. . .
as a rnatter of facL,. .
"f
with the emursion on,the firm so ihat
.a, .r
Mr’
;iT:;’*lT:";:: :H,vet .on that, Brian,
straiqht: well’ no’ itrs very obvioi.lsly
photographs that have been handed

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do you agfee with that?

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one hesitates [osay that the

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in to you research groups and governments
seen a phorosraef wlrcn eour,r
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exrra-re*esrriar ,J,:T-::"r:?::l
inreresrs rne much rnore is why is’ rhererore, devarued. whar
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objecrs. you know,r rhink
there is some sort
thev’re brorhers fromofourneed to believe that these
of space who,re comins
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No.7.
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a much more interesting thing to look at than actually to take the photograph :.
apartr because you canrt ever really prove when it comes to the sort of nth .degnee
of analysis whether a photograph is genuine or not, you can only say whether ,it,s
likely to be.
R. V/hiteley: Well, what I’m able to do new actualty is to introduce you to some
exclusive "Calendar" film which we managed to take the other day,have a look at
this.
(Film)
You can see it there,it’s coming through the murk there, you can’just
se . . is.
there it Well, Ray Nielsen, that film has come into our possession, does
that say anything to ycu?
Rev.Nielsen: No[ really, no,to be really honest with you,I mean I,d have io s*e
il in freeze frame and identify it, the same way that the New Zealand Government
R.
is taking the trouble to examine the film there ,’
Whiteley: Yes, okay, it was a difficult condition for you to see it in the bright
lights of the s[udio on the monitor. Heather, did you have any theories on that?
R. .
lliss Cooper: Well, I thought it rvas a frizby but Irrn nct saying anything more!..
Whitelev: Well, aclually that’s very good beeause urhat a clever girl you. are,
because we have to corne
a!r.
Rev.
R.
Rev.
clean.tureen’...
outside the studios by tossing a
Nielsen: Well, freeze frame would have shown that
whitelev: You reckon? okay, yes, I take the point.-
We shot that yesterday afternoon in the garden
eovers a dish from the canteen up in the
up.Now a lot of o"ootu’r"r,
indeed the House of Lorcis saici un Tirurs,iay, goverftn-rents certein gcvernrnents arc
hushirlg up the whole questlcn of

York where metI

U.F.Os, ri-re
Geary*. whors
Sir Eric
so let flist as!< you if ,vou, very briefly,
Nielsen: Yes,I do.I was part of a scientific delegation last year to New
go along with tlrat?

leading the delegation to the United

Nations and I met scientists including Professor lleinek.and they are all agreed tfrat

..
after years of investigation the evidence is overwhelmingly against, I’m afraid, the
idea that everything’s in the
R.
powers do not
open.I’nr afraid that there is a
Whiteley: you call it the Cosmic Watergate I see.
cover-up,the’ big
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No. MD.BI Continuation No.B.
Nielsen: yes, that term was coined by a nuclear physicist by the name of
Dr.Stanton Cleeton*....
R’manv/hiteley: okay. well, let’s ask Mr.patrick stevens of the M.o.D., he is
whorll be ealled upon to defend us from these things eventually: is the
government covering up on these things, I mean do you know that they exist but
you really know they do exist?
Mr’ stevens:Itts total nonsense the idea of a cover-up and this is a thing which ihe
to, i

ufologists keep corrring back they know that if there were visiLs fromi alien
spacecraft on anything like the scale that’s suggested, it must have come to,the
attention of governmentsr so when governments deny that they know anything at all
about alien spacecraft ever having arrived, the ufologists promptly say it must be a
thb

yourre sort of saying... the governmentts saying ’nonsense, they donrt existr, wl-ren

cover-up’
but there rea[y isn’t any cover-up,
therbrs nothing to cover up, lheru
never have been any alien spacecraft here and all the evidence, including the very
extensive scientific studies done by the Americans, indicaie that there’s nothing at
all in the way of alierr spacecraft visiting here.
UFos there are, in the sense
things rvhich are seen in the sky and require explanabion, but there are perfectlyof
sensible explanations for lhem.
R’
V/hiteley: Well, cf course Mr.Nielsen thinks that they are friendly, but I just
wondered if you gentlemen in the Ministry of Defence afe taking precautionary
steps in case thc’y do exist and in case they’re
systems we have t,o use against them?
hcstile.
Are there’any defence
,:

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Mr’ Stevens: No,at least to use against cuiious phenomena in the sky, you don,t
need any defence systems.I dontt know hovr I can convinee somebody rvho really
believes that there’s a cover-up. l-ord
Strabolgi said in the House Lords the
other day, spegking on behalf of the Government he said ’really thereofis no cover-
uprand he gave his total assurance. what evidence can I produce?
Bg"- Nlgl:9"t He’s hardly liable to say anything else, but pernrit. me to say th.is, I
mean the Earl of Kimberley and I were discussing this the oLher day and he doesn’t,
regard [he House of Lords debate as being a defeat. You don’! expect somebody to
turn round and say toh yes, yes, you’re right, all these years we have been
withholding evidence’r You canrt. say that. U.N.
All that we can hope is thal there are at
least ten governments now who have told the that they are willing to submit
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evidence that they have collected over the years, let,s hope that gradualty when
this cornes out in the open, more governments will follow suit and say there you
arer there’s the evidence, you make up your own mind.
R’ whitelev: Heather, I know you haven’t said, you know, that you don,t
astronomer that they
. . .,.
youfte prepared to believe the Tvo, but is there one thing would convince you
exist.
believe...
would one have to land basically in Hyde park and
chaps get out of it for you to believe
Miss cooper: I’d like that very much iniieed. I want physical evidence which’can
as an
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Whitelev: A bit of metal or what?
Miss cooper: A bit of metal, if it hatr an unusual composition, if it had unu.u"i
radioactive propertiei or something like that. I vrould like perhaps to for more
astronomers to see UFos, itts very strange that astnonomefs don,t see UFOs,
they’re the chaps whotre out all night observing. People who,re out at night don,t
tend to see UFOs,it tends to be and can I come back to your psyehological point
people perhaps who wanr to see UFOs do see them.
R’ whitelev: Very briefry because werve only got thirty seeonds refr.
Rev’ Nielsen: Well, in the House of Lords it was menticned that a Ministry of

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contacts over the lasl turo yeafs.
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Defence document was published rvhere it listed eighteen people rvho had had
lvlr’ stevens: I’ve got that document in my hand I have that document in my
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hand

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Whitelev: (intemupting) Well, we’re focussing on it, we can bee a jolly go d. .ai-,y
Mr’ St’everrs: i cart you slraigirLaway LiraL iL is noi-irirrg iike r.errruLeiy: iik"
Ministry of Defence c’ocument, itts got these aileged siglri irrgs, but. a’ybody rvho
knows anythinE about Ministry of Defence documents could tell you that’s a fraud.
(interruptions)Refer to anybody who knows anything about the Ministry of
Defence, there’s no date, there’s no such
R’ DepartmenL....
Whileley: (interrupting)Thank you very much ;ndeed.All of you in the sr.udio
thank you very much.
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beam from a lighthouse on the nearby coast’
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depressions seven feet in diameter were found
grass and that readings of beta a1{gampa radiation
were 10 times higher than normal. Disturbances
were also noted on air force radar at the time.
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described as a red
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of the United Kingdom. In the absence of any hard
evidence, the MoD remains open minded."
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public had seen the file. The government said it
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