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August 27th, 2007, 07:38 PM #101
kiretoce Sangki appointed head of Office on Muslims Affairs

Not your average saint.
President Arroyo has appointed a scion of a Moro royalty of Maguindanao,
Datu Ali Balayman Sangki who is a 56-year-old technocrat and
management expert, as executive director of the Office on Muslim Affairs
(OMA).
Arroyo signed Sangki’s appointment last Aug. 13. OMA is under the Office
of the President.
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Sangki will replace Sultan Yahya "Jerry" Tomawis, a businessman from
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Lanao del Sur and OMA head for the last two years.
Sangki has advised the OMA that he intends to assume office in simple
rites today after taking his oath of office.
The Chief Executive also appointed last Aug. 9 Datu Aladdin Ampatuan,
another Moro royalty clan member, as presidential assistant for Muslim
Concerns at the Office of the President.
Ampatuan was the former head of the Philippine Overseas Employment

Administration (POEA) in the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao
(ARMM).
Sangki, who finished a management course at the University of Manchester

in Manchester, England, through the British Council, is closely related to
Moro royal families from Maguindanao’s Muslim communities, being the son
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of Datu Sangki Dilangalen Ampatuan and Hadja Sophia "Pinanogod"

Balayman.
Sangki and Ampatuan expressed gratitude to the President for giving them
the opportunity to serve their countrymen and contribute in bringing
Muslim Filipinos closer to the government.
Sangki is married to Hadja Tita Lim-Sangki of Buluan, Maguindanao. Their

children are Mariam, Al-Iskandar, and Sheryl Yasmin.
Sangki said he would continue Tomawis’ programs and sustain them in

cooperation with other government agencies.
OMA is mandated by Executive Order No. 122-A to preserve, promote and

enhance the country’s Muslim heritage and help the President address the
Moro people’s concerns.
"As far as I know, Her Excellency President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo asked
me to head OMA after knowing what I have done with the Al-Amanah
Islamic Bank of the Philippines as chairman," said Sangki.
"The charter of the bank provides that my qualified successor shall be

nominated by the President and properly installed during the scheduled
stockholders’ meeting this coming Oct. 22," he said.
"There will be a review of the mandate of the OMA and all its existing
programs and focused them on the programs of the President for a closer
cooperation with the Executive," he said.
Sangki, a former OMA deputy executive director, is a member of the

Technical Working Group of the government-Moro Islamic Liberation Front
(MILF) peace process, former Maguindanao board member, and erstwhile
manager of Southern Philippines Development Authority among other
positions he has held.
Sangki’s appointment lauded by Christian and Muslim solons
Christian and Muslim members of the House of Representatives lauded

yesterday the appoinment by President Arroyo of Datu Ali B. Sangki,
chairman and executive officer of Al-Amanah Islamic Investment Bank of
the Philippines, as executive director of the Office on Muslim Affairs (OMA).
"Sangki’s profound background as a technocrat, management expertise and

deep involvement in Muslim affairs that helped uplift their economic
conditions through the operation of Al-Amanah Bank will give strong
direction and dynamism to the missions and visions of OMA," Christian and
Muslim solons said.
The solons are led by Reps. Annie Rosa L. Susano of the second district of
Quezon City, Francisco T. Matugas of Surigao del Norte, and Datu Pax S.
Mangudadatu of Sultan Kudarat.
They said with Sangki at the helm of OMA, the relations between Muslim
and Christian communities are expected to improve vastly as he is known
for promoting brotherhood, cooperation and harmony between all Filipinos
as chairman and CEO of the only Muslim bank in the Philippines.
Susano, chairwoman of the House Special Committee on Metro Manila

Development, said Sangki’s deep understanding of the human nature will
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be very useful in running OMA, one of the most sensitive government

agencies in the country today.
A management graduate of Manchester University in England, Sangki was

instrumental in laying a strong foundation of AlAmanah Bank despite its
problems when he was appointed its chairman and CEO.
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September 6th, 2007, 12:52 PM #102
Sinjin P. Islam values to be taught in Lapu-lapu

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LAPU-LAPU CITY — Arabic language and Islam values will soon be taught in
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public elementary schools here.
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Location: Lapu-Lapu, CEBU The Department of Education (DepED) Lapu–Lapu City Division endorsed
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public schools.
The proposal is based on the memorandum of agreement (MoA) between

the Madrasah Education, DEpEd-Lapu-Lapu Division and the city
government to jointly organize, implement, and sustain the ALIVE
programs.
The MoA states that both parties support the DepEd National Muslim
Education Roadmap not only as an affirmative action for the Muslim
community but also as a peace-building strategy.
It further states the role of DepEd in identifying prospective ALIVE

students, and in organizing classes, monitoring and evaluation of the
program and to avail of the LGU’s honoraria.
The MoA states that the ALIVE teachers will receive P3,000 monthly..
ALIVE classes are to be conducted in Basak, Pajo, and Poblacion Primary

schools and in the Lapu-Lapu City Elementary School. (Danny Fajardo)
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September 6th, 2007, 01:27 PM #103
paulkrps so many years back, i heard of some mindanaoan commented that muslims
BANNED (from mindanao or maybe worldwide) were losing so much of it's local
colours and culture due the arabization of islam.
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September 7th, 2007, 02:31 AM #104
Louman I've heard of something like that happening in Malaysia too.

Registered User Apparently the culture minister or something like that was noticing some
kind of Arabization of Malaysian culture. I can't remember where I saw this
so maybe someone from the Malaysian forum could clear this up for us.
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September 20th, 2007, 08:15 AM #105
The Status of the Minorities in South East Asia: Why Can’t Turkey Be Like the
Animo Philippines?
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The Philippine nation is a pluralistic society and culture compared to other

South East Asian countries in the region. The direction the Philippines has
taken since her colonial days has been toward the integration of small,
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languages spoken in the Philippines , especially among the Muslim
minority. For example, a member of the Maranao tribe speaks Maranao,
and one belonging to the Tausog tribe speaks the Tausug tribal language.
The Philippine government never forced minorities to speak Tagalog, the
Philippine national language. Of the 175 languages, 171 are living and only
4 are extinct, making a very diversified and rich linguistic map (Ethnologue
2007). The pluralistic nature of the Philippine society is very interesting to
study in the areas of ethnic, racial, and religious relations compared to
Turkey, because the Turkish nation is also a pluralistic society and culture
populated by many ethnic minorities, like the Kurds, Armenians, Jews,
Central Asians, and those from the Balkans; however, the direction the
Turkish government has taken is not toward integration into a more
diverse, tolerant society or a more educated and developing nation, but
rather the direction the Turkish government has taken is to continue to
deny differences, a denial based on a more racist and nationalistic
approach.
Like the Turkish government, the Philippine government constitutionally

remains a secular state, but unlike the Turkish government, it neither
supports nor discriminates against any religious group, institution, or
people according to the constitutional principles. In the Philippines , most
people classify themselves along sectarian lines. However, religious fanatic
groups in the Philippines are trying to divide the social structure of the
nation instead of trying to unify it into a common homeland under the
Philippine government. They use the drug of religion to combat against
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governmental efforts. Instead of fighting against poverty and illiteracy and

of maintaining security and building the economy, the fanatics create
problems, so that investments do not go to the rural areas. As a
consequence of the violence, Muslims pay the price. Even though in the
past the government discriminated against minorities, now it has
recognized these past mistakes and has compensated through a program of
reconciliation and autonomy. However, the Turkish government has had no
reconciliation programs to reconsider the taboos against the Kurds. Just
recently, the head of the Turkish Historical Society, TTK, Professor
Halacoglu, argued that the Kurds actually are Turkmen and that the Alevi
Kurds are Armenian. Indeed, this is the history that the Turkish
government teaches to young generations with misinformation about
Kurdish history. The history professor lays no claims to having foresight or
pre-science, and he has studied history just enough to know that he does
not know enough to risk predicting what the future holds for the Kurds. He
has eyes, though, and so he is in a position to ask readers to gaze in a
certain direction and determine whether they also see what he sees. This
kind of professor needs to wear glasses because his eyes suffer from
myopia, and, therefore, it is entirely possible that his claim rests on
evidence that either results from not seeing all there is to see or from
being based on what he thinks he sees. Also, a few years ago Bogazici
University in Istanbul held an international conference, but the TTK pulled
its funding and support when it learned that a paper on the Kurds and
another on the Armenians were to be presented. The Turkish government
has held this kind of groundless history for decades. However, Turkey is
preparing to join the world class, so I wonder if Turkey will relinquish her
narrow ideas based on a nationalistic view that denies minorities’ right to
exist or if it will follow the path of Europeans who strongly believe that
respect for human rights is one of the most fundamental and universal
values of our world. According to Benita Ferrero-Waldner, the European
Human Rights Commissioner for External Relations in the European
Neighborhood Policy, “All of us, in our official capacity have an obligation to
promote and protect the rights of our fellow members of the human family,
be that at home or elsewhere in the world” (2005).
By contrast to Turkey with its land mass being contiguous, the territorial
setting of the Philippines is comprised of more than seven thousands
islands, a reality that creates problems because of isolation and
communication gaps. Yet, in spite of these natural difficulties arising out of
its being an archipelago, the Philippines government is committed to
overcoming these complexities and to narrowing the gaps. However, it is
true to say that the Philippine government in the past has neglected the
southern part of country, or consistently has used assimilation and
discrimination policies against the Muslim minorities in that region.
Proselytizing the indigenous tribes with their religions based primarily on
animism, Islam was introduced to Mindanao and the Sulu Islands in the
15th century, and affected not only the religious order but the political and
social system as well, establishing sultanates and bringing the barangays
or kinship groups under the control of powerful datus or chieftains.. After
this period of Islamic proselytism, Muslims in the southern Philippines
consider themselves native since they preceded the Spaniard colonization
that began with the arrival of Ferdinand Magellan in 1521. Today,
however, the Philippine government has admitted that the government’s
past policy was wrong and unjust. The government has given a large
degree of freedom in the area ranging from education to autonomous
self-rule. It has created a special Muslim curriculum, Muslim institutions,
and scholarship programs exclusively for the Muslim minorities. For
example, Mindanao State University (MSU) is located in Marawi City ,
where the majority of the population is Muslim. The tuition is very
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inexpensive compared to other universities in the region.
When I interviewed, Dr. Tamano, a prominent Muslim, who is highly

educated and enjoys a high profile, he was Secretary of the Autonomous
Region in the Muslim Mindanao, Muslim advisor to the regional Department
of Education, and acting Vice- President of Mindanao State University
(2007). He also ran for governor but lost because of election fraud. He is
now Chancellor of Mindanao State University. I asked him, “What is the
Moro question?” If Muslims have their own autonomous region, their self
rule, education, language, and culture, what do Muslims want? Why are
they still fighting for? He told me that when the Spaniards came for three
Gs--GOD, Glory and Gold. “They tried to take our land from us and to force
us to believe their God. That’s why Muslims resisted them until today. That
was a just war, and that’s why we won.” He explained the difference now,
“But today we are fighting the wrong war, because the government now
recognizes her past mistake and has given us all opportunities to catch up
with the rest of society, in terms of education and economics.” Muslims
have a higher illiteracy rate than the Catholic Christians. There is such a
disparity between the Catholic majority and the Muslim minority in terms
of poverty. He continued, “That is what Muslim leaders in the Philippines
should be fighting for. They are supposed to unify to eliminate poverty,
narrow the educational gaps, and create peace so that people can have
jobs, but sometimes Muslims fight among themselves, especially when an
election comes. Some of the leaders want the Muslim candidates to use
religion as a scapegoat to gain political power for themselves.” Also, a lack
of Muslim leadership among the Muslim minority perpetuates the problems.
He told me to look at his university as a good example. The government
has given every opportunity for Muslims to be educated and to have skills
as well as good jobs. He referred to education as “the right education,” one
that teaches Islam but an Islam that is compatible with science. In his
view, Muslims should learn science and skills as well as their religion.
Also, I visited the Mayor of Davao City, Mayor Rodrigo Duterte, who is well
known for making the city safe and free from the corruption of
drug-dealing. He has a zero tolerance against drugs and other illegal
activity. Today there is only one city in the Mindanao region that is safe,
and it is Davao . When I asked him, “How did you do that?” Mayor Duterte
told me that the Philippine government policy had been wrong in the past.
He did not have any intention to follow the wrong policy of the
government. The mayor said that the state is not a moral agent; people
are, and as such, they can impose moral principles on powerful institutions.
He said that he talked to everybody especially the rebels and implemented
equal representation in his administration. He explained that he gave an
equal voice and an equal role to every tribe to make sure each person was
represented fairly and equally, and then he said he told them that there
would be no more assassinations, kidnappings, or killings. That is why the
city is safer today than before his coming to office. Mayor Duterte does not
believe that using the military is a good solution to ethnic and religious
conflict in his country. He believes we are all human beings, and as such,
we all have rights inherent to that status. We all have dignity and worth
that exist prior to law. That is a system in which words can change the
whole structure of government, and words can prove stronger than
numerous military divisions. That is why today Davao City is the safest city
in the Philippines ; it is because of a good and strong mayor.
Good administration and politics emphasize rights, the superiority of law,

duty, and the placement of responsible people in difficult jobs. According to
the mayor, government means justice and public order. One cannot speak
where those two do not exist. For Duterte, laws should be effective all the
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time, everywhere, and for everybody. This unity of feeling, thought, and
culture are essential to the development of a strong nation because
disintegration of moral unity causes that same nation to weaken.
Like more recently in the Philippines , in the 1960s America called for
national integration to solve the problem of racism, and it implemented
new policies to overcome the attitudes and practices that discriminated
against the Blacks. Since it is hard to change what happened in the past, a
society has to start at the present, so Turkey can change her attitude
toward ethnic discrimination. To begin, the current leaders must realize
Turkey’s guilt, get rid of their arrogance, seed humility, and exchange love,
humility, kindness, and forgiveness for hate to make the present more
comfortable and the future more hopeful. Peace will begin in the Kurdish
region when oppression, cruelty, injustice and hunger end.
However, today the Turkish government lags behind the Philippine

government in terms of its treatment of the minorities. An inquirer must
ask why the law enforcement that serve in the Kurdish region are not
Kurdish or at least speak Kurdish. Why are there no educational
institutions that study Kurdology or that establish Kurdish institutes? Why
can the Turkish government not create some kind of program like
affirmative action that will allow for a narrowing of the educational gap
between Kurdish minorities and the Turkish majority because illiteracy
rates among the Kurds is higher than among the Turks. Why can the
Turkish government not give some incentives to encourage economic
progress? Kurds should be more organized and should educate themselves
to realize that they would be better off if they made education a priority
because education is mightier than the sword. The Kurdish culture and
history should be allowed to exist in the open and also preserved, such as
Kurdish names, and the Kurdish language. Why can the Turkish
government not put forth some effort to foster civic engagement about the
Kurdish question? Why can the Kurdish question not be discussed in the
academic community? Why can the Turkish government not have some
kind of scholarship program exclusively for the Kurdish minority to give
them incentives to go to school? Why can the Kurds not have the same
kind of autonomy that the Muslim minorities do in the Philippines ? The
problem of the Kurds being subjected to objective analysis is that it
necessarily requires assessment of the government’s adopted measures to
effectively solve such problems. If the government denies the existence of
the ethnic group, how can any kind of governmental analysis occur? Good
government produces opportunities for each generation to have a
developed faith, innovative technology and science, and a cultivated
consciousness about their identity and their cultural values. If, by contrast,
the people see the government as tyrannical or oppressive, then the nation
has lost its purpose to serve the common good.
Further, in Turkey the government program still uses a military solution to

achieve their policy of integration rather than an academic one. For a long
time the integration policy was always interpreted as assimilation or
acculturation, which means that the Turkish government tries to reconcile
diverse cultures with one culture and to deny the minorities’ culture. By
contrast, in the Philippines the varied Muslim tribes have their own
language, dances, crafts, and customs. Yet, when Ferdinand Magellan came
to the Philippines in early 1521, he conquered the archipelago by sword
and cross, and for long time the Spaniards fought with Muslims in a bloody
struggle and war. However, later on, the governor as well as Catholic and
other denominations’ missionaries organized a politico –a military for the
minorities’ group, so that they would be able to control the minorities’
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affairs and supervise them. Dr. Tamano points out that the Spanish were
successful in Luzon and Visayas, so the Spanish began to assimilate
non-Christians into an already growing Christian society. In Dr. Tamano’s
view, the Spaniards made the integration policy successful in the north
because the Spaniard considered that if the number of Filipinos converted
to Christianity could be measured, the numbers would show a fully
successful integration. However, in the southern regions like Sulu and
Maguindanao, the Sultanates of the Muslims resisted the Spaniard forces
and the problem of assimilating these non-Catholic and Catholics failed to
bring them to work together to bring about peace. If a traveler crosses the
region, he or she will see how that policy has affected people’s life
conditions there. Now the Philippine government recognizes these
differences and has implemented policies to recognize the ethnic and
religious differences.
Like Magellan, the Turkish government first under the Ataturk regime and
then subsequent ones used force and denial as part of its assimilation
policy. “Kurds are mountain Turks.” Turkey was effective with this
assimilation, but they were not successful in the south; however, later on,
the Turkish regime’s generals and Agah or Sheik organized a politico –the
military for the minorities’ group, so that they could control the minorities’
affairs and supervised them through corrupt religious groups. The Agha in
the south and in the eastern part of Turkey accomplished a successful
integration policy because if the number of the Kurds who denied their
identity or who believed that they were mountain Turks could be
considered a criterion of national integration, then we could say that the
Turkish government proved successful in her integration or assimilation
policy. It is fair to say that the Turkish regime’s integration policy in the
east was successful, but that it failed in the south. Last week, the mayor of
the Diyarbakir challenged the Islamic Justice and Development Party (AP),
saying that Diyarbakir is our [the Kurds’] “stronghold,” and we are ready to
fight. However, Mayor Osman Baydemir used this word as a illustration to
mean that we will not give up our culture, we will not bow down to
injustice, we will not let the military burn our villages, we live here, and
we will fight you not in the sense of taking up arms but a civilized way.. In
the recent case, however, a member of the Fetullahci group, Fetullah
Gülen’s closest assistant wrote in the Zaman newspaper criticizing
Baydemir’s comments by saying that Mayor Baydemir cannot challenge the
Prime Minister and that Baydemir is creating terror. But Huseyin Gulerce
and his followers put the blinders on when the Democratic Social Party
(DPT) leader Ahmet Turk criticized Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s government by
saying, “There is no mention about the Kurdish problem during the
parliamentary talks over the new government plan.” However, Erdogan
replied to Ahmet, “You first outlaw the Kurdish Worker Party [PKK} in the
region.” Gulerce and his followers failed to see what kind of language the
Prime Minister was using. What kind of leadership is it that wants to punish
a majority of people because a minority of the people supports the PKK? If
the Prime Minister were a mature enough leader, he would never point out
differences of thought and opinion to produce conflict. It is true that no one
should refuse to tolerate views that separate people into camps and
destroy the community and society, but neither should they go out of their
way to use them to enflame opposition. If the Prime Minister and others
who think like him believe in tolerance, then why do they oppose every
idea that seem contradictory to theirs and scare them off instead of
seeking ways to benefit from their opinions and ideas, of trying to
understand them and to build a bridge, and of beginning a dialogue with
them? In other words, why do they not try to learn how to listen to what
the Kurds say they really want and what they really mean? Otherwise,
those who are kept at a distance and are led into dissatisfaction because
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they think that the government is biased will unit the masses and will
resist the Turkish government. It is important that the Prime Minister and
his government learn how to benefit from other people’s knowledge and
views because that knowledge will help them understand how to approach
the Kurdish problem.
Also, Erdogan still believes that there is no Kurdish problem and that there
has never been one. By answering Baydemir, Erdogan was saying that
people should produce projects not words. I wonder what Erdogan has been
doing in southeastern Turkey . How many families have been compensated
because the military forced them to leave their villages? How many
families whose village has been burned have homes being rebuilt? How
many new schools and new roads are being built in southeastern Turkey ?
How many job has he created? How much has he reduced the size of the
military instead of increasing it, as he actually has? A just government
implies that there is a policy for everything: a policy for renewing a
nation’s joy until the whole nation feel the joys and likewise feels the
sorrow and pain of others in the same nation. Instead, now there is a new
campaign that goes against Kurds, saying that Kurds are betrayers and
have taken the side of the Christians like those in America . But, the
government has never realized that Americans are the ones who freed the
Kurds, not their fellow Muslim brothers. Also, it has failed to understand
that those who have been oppressing the Kurds for centuries are neither
Christians nor Americans, but they are their fellow Muslim brothers. Iran ,
for example, for a long time has oppressed the Kurds and is killing them
even today; it is not a Christian nation but rather a Muslim nation. Turkey
has oppressed, killed, tortured, raped, and burned houses and villages, not
a Christian nation but a Muslim one. Syria committed genocide against the
Kurds; it is not a Christen nation but a Muslim nation. Iraq ’s Saddam
gassed Kurds not as a Christian nation but a Muslim one. Those who study
politics and see politics as a propaganda struggle for power are mistaken.
Politics is like an art of management based on diverse perspectives of the
contemporary world and on a future that will seek the people’s satisfaction
and justice. Erdogan and some others should never forget that power and
dominance are transitory, while justice, equality, and truth are eternal.
Even if they do not exist in Turkish politics today, some day they will.
Therefore, especially those who claim to be Muslims should align
themselves and their policies with equality and justice; and treat
everybody the same regardless of their religion, skin color, race, ethnicity,
or gender. The Prime Minister and Huseyin Gulerce should never forget
when they were discriminated against by the military and the Secularists,
or when they were not welcome in the presidential palace or at a meeting.
How did they feel in their own country? That is exactly how the Kurds feel
now. If religion is truly interpreted, it can promote democracy,
understanding of others, human rights, equality, as well as justice, and
those values can be guaranteed via religion. Because religion should teach
that all people are created equal, it should not discriminate based on race,
color, age, or nationality. Religion should declare that power lies in truth;
religion should teach that justice and rule of law are essential; religion
should teach freedom of belief, open ideas, and the right to life, personal
name, and personal property. Everyone should be able to speak her or his
language and maintain culture that God-gave to them; no one should take
that away, and their rights should be violated. Religion is a relationship
between men and God. It results in a commitment between God and the
individual as he or she submits to His divine system in which all creatures
obey Him. To abuse it is very sad in that today many people try to use
religion to gain power and as a method of controlling another person’s life.
If a government is virtuous and the state is chosen because of their
humble ideas and justice, then that government will be strong and peace
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as well as reconciliation are possible, but if the government is run by

officials who still have prejudice in their hearts and minds, not justice and
equality, and thus they lack those high qualities, sooner or later it will
collapse. Erdogan and others should remember that extreme harshness
causes unexpected explosions that are waiting for the spark to ignite them.
As long as his government protects people from cruelty and defends them
from injustice and oppression, it will be a successful government; however,
if Erdogan’s government does not do so, then he will cause more hatred,
more prejudice, and more turmoil.
The majority of Muslims in the southern Philippines (the Moros),

like the Kurds, are not rebellious and do not want to fight or be
rebellious against their government. Even though a majority of the
Moros sympathize with the Moros’ struggle against, oppression, injustice,
and cruelty that the rebels represent, most Muslims like the Kurds wish for
nothing more than to live in peace, pursue their livelihood, have a family,
raise their kids, live in dignity, and die in a bed. The Kurds seek above all
their survival as a Kurdish people. They are now convinced that their
survival demands freedom from the domination of Turks in those matters
which most impinge on their identity and selfhood as Kurds; those are such
matters as education, community organizations, non-government
organizations (NGO’s), family , law and order, an end to military rule, and
economic resources. This is the kind of experience that has been telling us
that there can be no real freedom for Kurds until there is fundamental
change in the structures of their relationship to the Turkish government.
This change must give them power, that is affective reserved powers, to
order their affairs in their regions. However, those objectives should be
accomplished by Turkish political systems using all of the legal
constitutional means available, including publication of their ideas;
organizing pressure groups and lobbies, and participating in government
efforts to find the right, just solution to the Kurdish problem.
The number of Moros, like the Kurds, have acted on their belief that the
only way to respond to the government’s wrong policy is to fight even
though they are a comparably small entity. However, some Kurdish leaders
like Baydemir, a moderate, have often eloquently articulated the legitimate
and understandable grievances the Kurdish people put forth and voice
sound recommendations for the government, but presently the government
and the people are not ready yet to discuss openly the Kurdish question.
Mayor Baydemir speaks on behalf of his people pleading for understanding
and justice. Former Senator Mamintal Tamano and former dean, Cesar
Majul of the Institute of Islamic Studies at the University of Philippines
systems, have sets of recommendations for the Philippine government to
implement. Some of the recommendations are being implemented by the
government: 1) a moratorium on new settlers should be imposed, 2) law
enforcement agents in the Moros areas should be Muslims, 3) more
educational institutions should be established, 4) governments should
encourage economic progress, 5) Muslim Filipinos should be better
Muslims, 6) important elements of Islamic law should be allowed for
Muslims, and 7) the national government should enable greater Moros’
participation. These are the major recommendations that two moderate
Filipino Muslims have put together for the government, and many of those
recommendations have already been granted and implemented.
Now more Moros have been appointed to national services. A code of

Philippine Muslims’ personal law has been promulgated. Muslim holidays
have legal status in the Moros region. The government has set up a Bank
of the Philippines, Amana Bank, to capitalize on the Moro requirements for
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economic development. The Minister of Educational Culture has been

making a conscious effort to meet the educational needs and religious
feeling of the Muslims. Moreover, the Philippine government granted
autonomy to the Muslims making them internally independent and
externally dependent on the Manila government. According to Dr. Tamano,
The Autonomous Region of Muslims Mindano (ARMM) was created in
August 1989 and inaugurated in 1990 under the President, Corazon
Aquino at the Cotabato City . This led to the Moro National Front laying
down their arms and converting to the Philippine national army. The
question is why can’t Turkey be like the Philippines ?
References
Duterte, Rodrigo. Mayor, Davao City . Personal Interview. 10 July 2007.
Ethnologue.com
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=PH
Ferrero-Waldner, European Commissioner for External Relations and

European Neighbourhood Policy. “Promotion of Human Rights and
Democratisation in the European Union's External Relations.” European
Commission for External Relations. (10 December 2005).
http://ec.europa.eu/external_relatio...ntro/index.htm
Gulerce, Huseyin. “ Diyarbakýr 'ýn mesajý doðru okunmalý .” Zaman.
http://www.zaman.com.tr/webapp-tr/ya...?yazino=584759
Tamano, Salipado S.
Acting Vice President, Office of the Vice President for Planning and
Development, the Philippines-Australia Basic Education Assistance for
Mindanao, RELC XII Compound ARMS Complex, ORC Cotabato City, Muslim
Education Advisor, The Autonomous Region in Muslim
Mindanao, Cotabato City , Regional Secretary Regional Department of

Education, Culture and Sports. Personal Interview. 7 March 2007.
http://www.kurdishaspect.com/doc091907AM.html
January 29th, 2008, 09:06 PM #106
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Office on Muslim Affairs marks 21st year today
Officials and rank-and- file personnel of the Office on Muslim Affairs (OMA)
headed by Executive Director Datu Ali B. Sangki will celebrate today, Jan.
30, the 21st year milestone of OMA, an agency created by then President
Corazon Aquino in 1987.
Sangki, appointed to OMA by President Arroyo in August, 2007 to "fix and

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agency in 20 years.
The observance, to be held at the OMA central office at Jocfer Bldg. on

Commonwealth Ave. in Quezon City, will be attended by some Moro
political, religious, and traditional leaders.
Sen. Joker Arroyo, in one Senate budget hearing for OMA, had said Aquino
issued Executive Order No. 122-A on Jan. 30, 1987 creating OMA for the
leadership training of Muslims.
OMA’s mandate is to "preserve and develop the culture, traditions,

institutions, and well-being of Muslim Filipinos, in conformity with the
country’s laws and in consonance with national unity and development."
It has 822 employees manning the central office (with 208 employees) and
its 11 regional offices in Luzon, the Visayas, and Mindanao. OMA also has
provincial and sub-offices to attend to concerns of Muslims.
Among its mainstream programs are the processing and conduct of the
pilgrimage or hajj to Makkah in Saudi Arabia, holding of Qur’anic
competitions, development of Shar’ia justice system in Philippine setting,
and halal industry promotion.
Sangki denied yesterday an earlier report that the President put OMA
under the Office of the Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process (OPAPP)
because of issues over the recent pilgrimage and issuance of halal
certification. For the record, OMA ceased issuing halal certification after a
Supreme Court ruling some years back.
Sangki said a group of "sheikhs" or hajj guides, led by Ustadhz Mohammad

Said Mando, from Region 9 who wrote to Saudi King Abdullah Bin Abdul
Aziz invoking "the separation of Church and State" was "motivated by
personal ulterior motives" to escape the hajj reforms he planned to
implement.
Arroyo appointed Sangki to OMA when his predecessor, Sultan Yahya

Tomawis, had already signed hajj contracts with Saudi Arabia, leaving little
room for him (Sangki) to put his reforms in place.
Sangki said the sheikhs only wanted to evade compliance with the criteria
that spell out the rules for accreditation of the hajj guides, which also
prescribe assessment report on the sheikhs’ performarce.
The OMA executive director said the hajj guides did not like the reforms he
wanted to put in place because he discovered "highly anomalous activities
in the hajj operations."
Removing the hajj operations from OMA "will only embolden and further
aggravate the already very controversial hajj operations diluted by these
sheikhs to perpetuate their activities. These must be corrected by the
regulatory powers of the State through OMA," said Sangki.
EO No. 697 received mixed reactions from OMA employees – some

apprehensive that OPAPP may re-organize OMA, others indifferent, and
others still resigned to it.
OPAPP Undersecretary Nabil Tan allayed these apprehensions, saying "we

will only assist, but I think there will be coordination meeting to be called
by Secretary Dureza so things can be clarified."
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kiretoce DepEd to boost mainstreaming of Muslim schools

MANILA, Philippines -- In a bid to popularize the Standard Curriculum in
private madaris, the Department of Education (DepEd) has announced that
it will extend assistance to madaris looking for funding as long as they pass
the necessary requirements.
DepEd Secretary Jesli Lapus said the DepEd was set to provide help to
madaris or Arabic schools that integrated the standard curriculum with the
Arabic Language and Islamic Values Education (ALIVE) program. He said
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the initiative was aimed at mainstreaming the private madaris.
"Mainstreaming Madrasah Education in our system of basic education is

one of the initiatives we have been undertaking to give our Muslim
schoolchildren an education that is culturally sensitive," Lapus said in a
statement.
Undersecretary for Muslim Affairs Manaros Boransing said the project

would provide comprehensive education to Muslim children.
"While the ALIVE Program is integral to their education, we also recognize

the need for them to learn the standard subjects taught in public schools --
Mathematics, English, Science, Filipino, and Makabayan."
The Deped said it would help schools with funding needs and facilitate their
grant application to the financial assistance program extended by
Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC). Under the OIC’s funding
program, madaris can avail of funds to cover the improvement of physical
facilities such as classrooms, furniture, laboratory equipment, and libraries.
DepEd will help schools who pass the requirements.
Part of the assistance is expected to go to capability building, which

includes training of Muslim teachers or asatidz, management training for
administrators and finance managers, and installation of accounting and
financial systems.
Before private madaris can avail of the financial assistance, they must
obtain a permit to operate from the DepEd Regional Office in the
Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM). They should also offer
the Standard Curriculum for Private Madaris as prescribed under DepEd
Order 51, s. 2004.
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Who are the indigenous?
Scholar says Negritos are the "Original Filipinos"
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BAGUIO CITY – All these years, school teachers have taught Filipino
children that Filipinos belong to the Malay stock.
Now comes a language scholar, who has authored influential studies about
Cordillera and other Philippine languages for almost 50 years, who says
that linguistic, archaeological and anthropological findings collected
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through the years prove that this assertion may have been wrong.
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Based on a comprehensive study of Philippine languages and dialects, Dr.

Lawrence Reid, a New Zealand-born researcher emeritus of the University
of Hawaii, dates the indigenous and mainstream Filipino to Taiwan about
4,500 years ago.
Reid says the people Filipinos call “indigenous” today are themselves
immigrants to the country and have become a minority that has been
marginalized by the state.
He says the “original Filipinos” everyone refers to are actually the Negritos
who are all but extinct in the country of their birth.
Reid has developed an influential body of work on Philippine languages –

with the Ivatan language in the 1960s, a contribution to the Tasaday
debate in the 1980s, and recently, with online dictionaries of a Mt.
Province dialect that he speaks fluently.
In 2006, he was honored at the 10th International Conference on

Austronesian Linguistics in Palawan.
Uninformed
In a paper, entitled “Who are the Indigenous? Origins and

Transformations,” he presented to the First International Conference on
Cordillera Studies held last week at the University of the Philippines
Baguio, Reid asked the government to correct websites that contain
“uninformed and grossly amateurish statements about the cultural
minorities.”
The most prominent site Reid poked fun at belongs to the National
Commission on Indigenous Peoples (NCIP), the agency tasked to
administer, supervise and grant ancestral land titles to indigenous
Filipinos.
“There we find materials that have apparently been taken from popular
descriptions and old, long outdated history books that refer to the multiple
migration hypotheses of Dr. H. Otley Beyer, the leading Philippine
ethnologist of his day, and which I am told is commonly taught in
Philippine schools today,” he says.
He says the NCIP profiles the Ifugao as “descendants of the first wave of
Malay immigrants to the country.” The Kalinga are said to be descendants
of the second group of Malays who came to the islands.
“The Ibaloi are described as ‘peaceful, hardworking, and hospitable

tribesmen. They are generally fair in complexion and have well-developed
bodies, usually standing four to five feet above in height, have medium and
narrow noses and some have broad flat noses,’” he says.
“Attention to the shape of the nose is also mentioned for the Kallahan (or
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Ikalahan),” he says, as well as the Bugkalot, the Yogad of Isabela and the
Ivatan of Batanes.
“Absurd and completely unscientific descriptions such as these are

internationally read, and not only give completely erroneous descriptions
of Philippine indigenous groups, but cast a very poor light on the level of
Philippine scholarship,” he says.
Who does the indigenous Filipino take after?
Reid says: “It is simply not true that the ancestors of Ifugaos or any
Cordilleran peoples or of the Tagalogs or other lowland groups are
descendants of the original inhabitants of the Philippines.”
“When your ancestors first arrived in these islands, they were not
unoccupied. They were occupied by maybe hundreds of groups of Negritos,
most of who have been completely assimilated or have died out,” he says.
He says scientists have located 25 present-day groups of Negrito stock who

still thrive, although they are on the brink of extinction themselves.
Reid says the latest United Nations policy subscribes to the definition that
indigenous peoples are “original inhabitants of a country, who inhabited
the present territory of a country, at a time when persons of a different
culture or ethnic origin arrived there.”
Negritos are “the true first Filipinos” who date back to 50,000 years, he
says, while the Ifugao ancestors who reputedly built the world heritage
enshrined rice terraces appeared to have arrived only 4,000 years ago “as
their first colonizers.”
“It is these first Filipinos who are the most downtrodden and socially
marginalized of all Filipinos, and most in need of urgent action to enable
them to survive in this society,” he says.
The Cordillera no longer hosts Negrito tribes, although Reid says

anthropologists have found evidence that Alta Negritos of the Sierra Madre
used to thrive in the Ifugao mountains.
Citing the discovery of ancient pottery shards in a cave in Itbayat, Batanes

by archaeologist Peter Bellwood of the Australian National University, Reid
says strong evidence “marks [the first colonizers] as being part of a
Neolithic culture that existed in southwest Taiwan and [who] spread south
from there into the Batanes islands and Northern Luzon.”
He says the artifact supports irrefutable linguistic evidence debunking the

“pre-scientific myth that Philippine languages are somehow corrupted
versions of Malay, as a result of multiple migrations from the south.”
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limbay Quote:
Tribal Music Buff
Originally Posted by Sinjin P.
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Arumamen-Manuvu
Mindanao
The Arumanen-Manuvu had its origin from a village settled place

called Banubu near the mouth of Pulangi River.
A god named Apo Tabunawai rules the village. He is acclaimed as

the “Timuay” or the convenor of the village elders. According to
legends, Timuay Apo Tabunawai was a skillful forest food gatherer
such of wild ubi, sago palm, various roots crops nuts and fruits.
Issues are tackled by the Council of Elders are the review and
reconstitution of community policies for the coming seasons. To
bring omens of good tidings, abundance and societal well-being,
marriages of young people are arranged and undertaken on the
post-festival evenings.
By foot and with the use of basket types of traps, the hunters bring
home large fowls, fish, lizards, pythons and lesser wild games.
The villagers acknowledge that the abundance brought home from a

hunt comes from the favor of Elemental Beings whose compassion
is anchored upon Apo Tabunawai.
The above picture was taken from my website, without giving appropriate
credit...
Not a decent way to deal with the intellectual property of other people...
Worse than that, the picture is used in a wrong context, as it does not
show
Arumanen-Manuvu but Tigwa Manobo from San Fernando, Bukidnon. The
Tigwa Manobo would
not like it at all to be sold as Arumanen Manobo...
More accuracy, please...
Here is the link of my website, which is, first of all,

dealing with Mindanao tribal music and culture:
http://brandeis.home.pages.de
http://aedv.cs.tu-berlin.de/~brandei...stracts-e.html
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March 7th, 2008, 05:07 PM #110
Fundador As far as our native culture is concerned, I am very very interested

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just asking, did phillipines have any kingdoms, empire besides
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i think wala but American culture is very strong in our country
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March 10th, 2008, 04:39 PM #112
kiretoce Western Mindanao leaders welcome bill creating National

Not your average saint. Commission for Muslim Filipinos
Muslim leaders in Western Mindanao welcome the proposed bill creating

the National Commission for Muslim Filipinos, an agency that will abolish
the Office on Muslim Affairs.
In a public hearing jointly conducted by the House of Representatives’

Committees on Government Reorganization and Muslim Affairs held
Thursday in this city, Muslim leaders including top religious scholars from
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Zamboanga Peninsula including the island provinces of Sulu and Tawi-tawi,
expressed support for the immediate passage of the bill into law.
“This would be of great help to the Muslim populace in the country, settling
the different issues we Muslims are facing,” said Sheikh Abdulwakil Tanjilil,
the deputy Mufti representing Zamboanga Peninsula, Sulu, and Palawan.
“We would like to congratulate the members of the two committees for this
laudable move,” added former DepEd superintendent Hadji Abdu Rahim
Kenoh.
But former Maguindanao Rep. Datu Michael Mastura said there is a need to
look into “what I call cycle of abolition.”
“It is a failed policy. It is a passé unitary colonial formula which keeps

Muslims trapped,” he said.
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Mastura, a lawyer and historian and a member of the peace negotiating

panel of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) said,” the issue is
Bangsamoro homeland, not national commission.”
Rep. Erico Basilio Fabian, chair of the Committee on Muslim Reorganization

and one of the sponsors of the bill said the hearing is the first public
consultation held outside Metro Manila. Their group, he added, will still be
conducting similar meetings in the cities of Davao and Cagayan de Oro.
The proposed bill, which is the consolidation of house bills numbers 823,
2347, and 2379, will take over the functions of the would-be abolished
Office on Muslim Affairs (OMA).
The proposal states the office will have seven commissioners; five
representing different Muslim tribes in the country and two from the
women and ulama (religious leaders) sectors.
According to Rep. Pangalian M. Balindong, chair of the Committee on

Muslim Affairs, the commission will ensure the “full representation of all
the Muslim ethnic tribes as well as sectors in the country, thus ensuring
equal services for all.”
The bill will also define respective powers, functions and responsibilities of
the commission and appropriate funds.
He added the result of the public consultation will be considered to enhance

the bill.
Among the points raised and approved by the body is the power of the
commission to nominate and endorse to the President of the Republic of
the Philippines highly qualified candidates for posts in the foreign service,
especially in the Middle East countries. This will include the positions of
ambassadors and other high ranking foreign servicemen.
The commission will also have its different bureaus, particularly focusing
on economic affairs, Muslim cultural affairs, Muslim settlement, and
pilgrimage and endowment. The committees are also adopting the inclusion
of Bureau on Halal Certification.
Other salient features of the bill are the open airline choice for the
pilgrims, unlike the present which only allows the use of one airline. The
bill also proposes to have a Hajj Attache and Amirul Hajj, who will be
helping thousands of Filipino Muslim pilgrims.
Cagayan de Oro City Representative Rufus Rodriguez, chair of the

Technical Working Group working on this bill, said they are now working to
fastback its passage into law.
“This bill has been long overdue as Muslims should have already their own
commission looking after the Muslim issues and concerns,. This will elevate
the present OMA into a national commission” he said, adding that the
Indigenous Peoples (IPs) have already their own national commission.
The staff of the two committees said the results of the public consultation
will be wrapped up in May or June for endorsement to Senate. The
counterpart Senate Bill No. 930 authored by Senator Loren Legarda is also
pending in the upper chamber of the Congress.
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March 24th, 2008, 02:29 AM #113
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ZAMBOANGA CITY — The Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) has
called on the two Moro rebel groups to unite for the welfare of the
Bangsamoro (Muslim nation) people.
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Both the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) and the Moro Islamic
Liberation Front (MILF) were advised "to combine their efforts to work for
peace and development of the Bangsamoro people."
Mohagher Iqbal, MILF chief negotiator, told BusinessWorld that both groups
were invited to attend the summit.
He said for MILF, a "position letter" was sent informing the OIC of the
status of the "Bangsamoro in Mindanao" and the current state of the more
than 10-year peace talks with the government.
In its statement, the OIC "also took note of the ongoing negotiations
between the Philippine government and the MILF, which it "hopes [will
have] a positive outcome."
The OIC brokered the peace talks between the MNLF and the government
in 1996, and recognized the MNLF as the representative of the
Bangsamoro people.
However, the MILF, a breakaway group of the MNLF, has since emerged as
the biggest armed Muslim group fighting for a separate Islamic state in
Mindanao and is now on the final stage in signing the ancestral domain
agreement with the government.
The government has earlier urged the two groups to talk. "The two of them
would have to talk because they will represent the Bangsamoro
autonomous government. There could not be separate Bangsamoro
concepts of the MNLF and MILF," Executive Secretary Eduardo R. Ermita
earlier said.
Tighter security
Meanwhile, the military has beefed up security measures in the battled-

scarred province of Sulu following a clash with the Abu Sayyaf group on
Friday, military officials said.
The Western Mindanao Command (WestMinCom), said Marines engaged in

a fire fight a band of Abu Sayyaf that led to the killing of Nelson Bin
Ricson, an alleged Abu Sayyaf commander in the village of Pansul in
Patikul town.
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The 15-minute shooting also resulted in the recovery of several firearms

and ammunition and some documents. Ricson was believed to be under the
command of Radulan Sahiron, who has been on the United States’ wanted
terrorists list.
Marine Brig. Gen. Juancho M. Sabban, the new commander of the

anti-terrorist Joint Task Force Comet, said there is a standing order that
operations against Abu Sayyaf will not be suspended even during special
holidays such as Christmas.
Lt. Gen. Nelson N. Allaga, WestMinCom chief, has earlier ordered no let-up
in pursuing the Abu Sayyaf even during last week’s observance of the
Lenten season that ended yesterday.
Military stations in Sulu and Tawi-Tawi have been ordered to rescue two
kidnapped victims from the Abu Sayyaf.
In Tawi-Tawi, a rescue mission was launched for Omar Taup, a teacher of

Notre Dame School in Tabawan, South Ubian, who was hostaged by the
Abu Sayyaf after the murder of Fr. Jesus Reynaldo A. Roda on Jan. 15.
Troops in Sulu are pursuing a band of Abu Sayyaf holding a Chinese

businesswoman, earlier identified as Ma. Rosalie Lao. She was abducted
allegedly by the Abu Sayyaf on Jan. 28 while walking outside her house in
downtown Jolo.
The rescue attempt for Ms. Lao on Feb. 4 angered Sulu residents after the
military allegedly killed seven civilians and an off-duty Army integree in
the coastal village of Ipil in Maimbung town.
Survivors claimed there was no Abu Sayyaf member in their area and the
incident was a "massacre."
The Commission on Human Rights’ regional office earlier described the

incident as an attack against "sleeping residents" and not against the Abu
Sayyaf.
The commission also recommended the filing of criminal charges against

the soldiers based on its investigation. — Darwin T. Wee
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By ALI G. MACABALANG
COTABATO CITY — As the Christian world observed the Holy Week last
week, Muslims in this Asia’s lone Catholic country acknowledged the
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Muslims revere Jesus, who is mentioned many times in the Koran, which
also contains a whole chapter on the story of Eisa Ibnu Mariam or Jesus,
the Son of Mary.
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While professing peaceful coexistence with Christians and people of other

faiths, Muslims do not observe the Holy Week in the way some of them join
the Christmas festivities.
The reason is that Muslims do not believe in the death of Jesus on the
cross.
The Koran’s Chapter 19 (Su’ratul Mariam or Mary’s Chapter) disputes the

Gospels’ crucifixion story about the nailing by the Romans of Jesus to
death.
The chapter states: "They said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus the son of
Mary, the Messenger of Allah.’ But they killed Him not, nor crucified Him,
but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full
of doubts ... for of a surety they killed Him not (Surah 4:157)."
The crucifixion story is also disputed in the succeeding verses (Surah

4:156-159), which say, in part, "They did not slay him, neither crucified
him, only a likeness of that was shown to them."
Ulama (Islamic scholars) in the country said that Jesus’ advent in this
world taught Muslims and Christians alike to believe in God and in the
prophets, and in a day of judgment.
Ustadz Esmael Ebrahim, spokesman of the Assembly of Dharul Ifta of the

Philippines (ADIP), said although Muslims do not observe the Christian Holy
Week, they respect the practices and traditions of other faiths.
"I think Muslims have, so far, shown respect for other religions," Ebrahim
said.
This is evident in the yearly procession of the Cross in and around

communities with Muslim residents, such as in Quiapo (Manila), Datu Piang
(Maguindanao), Pikit (North Cotabato) and this city, Ebrahim said.
Muslims in Christian-dominated communities do not decorate their houses

during Christmas but they do exchange gifts with their neighbors as a
gesture of valuing the mutual relationships.
Some of them also join Christian friends during All Souls’ Day in visiting
cemeteries for their dead. Islam prescribes visiting of graves especially
those of pious people.
Some male Muslims marry Christians, who are described in the Holy Koran
as the "People of the Book." www.mb.com.ph
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amigo32 merong naging muslim na dating christian.

Intel i5 Bakit ka nagpa convert? Gusto daw nya maraming asawa.
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kiretoce Hijab: a symbol of liberation and not of oppression

Some very young Muslim women approached me three weeks ago. They
expressed their anxiety over the fact that academic policies have compelled
them to take off their hijab, specifically the head veil or khimar. School
authorities ordered them as nursing students to take off their head veils
while they are on hospital duty in the course of their RLE practicum.
Naturally, these veiled Muslimah are apprehensive. School authorities
quashed their mild protestations with the following lame, controversial, and
debatable reasons: that the veil is dirty (this is either a slanderous or
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fashion just because some Muslims wear hijab while others do not (highly
fallacious); and that seeing veiled nurses on duty has traumatized hospital
patients (are they running out of lucid alibi? Even surgeonshave to be fully
clothed in sterilized gowns their masks resemble the niqab except the color
of course).
This brought to mind a similar hijab incident at Pilar College whose

authorities steadfastly refused to listen to the imploration of Muslim
parents on behalf of their veiled daughters. They adamantly reasoned that
no one forced them to enroll their children at Pilar College and so they
have to conform to school regulations just as non-Muslim OFWs have to
conform to Muslim countries' legal compulsion for the former to wear the
veil.
Reiterating my pronouncement during the Magna Carta for Women

Conference organized by Cong Beng G. Climaco where we lobbied for the
rights for equal educational opportunity for Muslim women in the
Philippines, I observed that infringement on the Muslim student's right to
wear the veil is a result of profound ignorance of its divine merit and
significance. Asking a Muslimah to take off her veil is not as ordinary as
asking her take off her hat; or as mundane as asking her to take off her
coat; or as simple as asking her to take off her shoes.
In Islam, the female body, excepting the face and the hands, is considered
"private parts" (awrat or juyyubihinna), and thus, the Qur'an (XXIV: 31;
XXXIII:59) and Ahadeeth have so decreed that it must be covered before
public eyes and even in private, i.e., home if in the midst of prohibited or
restricted males. Thus, the school
authorities are unaware that asking a Muslim student to take off her head
veil is tantamount to asking her to strip off her unmentionables, her
undergarments, or her underpants! Thus, such action is an encroachment
upon her right to privacy; it is synonymous to stripping her nude or to
physical transgression.
A Muslimah who wears the veil by choice, in her obedience and worship of
Allah as the Supreme Being fundamentally understands the wisdom of
being covered. It is a protection of her hayya (modesty or chastity) just as
the habit is as vital to a nun. How would a nun feel if one violates her
habit? The hijab of a Muslimah is her shield from the penetrating bullet of
evil desires of nafs/hawwa just as a knight would cover himself with an
armor or a cop protect himself with a bulletproof vest. How would a cop
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feel if he is deprived of his armor? One Muslimah in the name of Danah

Quijano said: It is my life; Islam is my life! Armed with her faith in Allah,
rather than disobey Allah and resolute in safeguarding her chastity, she
chose to deprive herself of a nursing career and shifted to RadTech. If you
take off my veil, you are killing me! I understand Danah's predicament, I
resonate her sentiments; and I know many Muslimah empathize with her.
How would an astronaut feel if he is deprived of his spacesuit which to him
is his lifeline?
Such incidents trigger worst memories in the mid-1990's of students being

expelled from schools and by some of them who countered by successfully
suing the French government; of one French student who staunchly fought
for her Islamic aqeedah and shaved off her hair in defiance of the
educational ban. She declared: "My decision to shave my head is dignified
than committing sins by taking off my hijab."
When "religious freedom in France was restricted by a law which outlawed

religious proselytizing by persons of all faiths," the French Minister of
Education severely interpreted such law as banning the wearing of the
hijab. Thus, he ordered the expulsion from schools of all female students
who wore it. President Jacques Chirac of France was even quoted to have
pronounced this statement: "Wearing a veil, whether we want it or not, is
a sort of aggression that is difficult for us to accept." The Roman Catholic
Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger was alarmed that enacting a law banning the
wearing of hijab in public schools would encourage an aggressive
anti-religious trend. He commented: "This clumsy law risks reopening...a
religious war."
It is clear that the State and International Laws affirm the right to Islam
and the right to wear the veil by Muslims is a fundamental right in as much
as it is a substantive right; and for these very reasons it is ordained to be
inalienable. The 1987 Constitution of the Philippines declares: The
separation of Church and State shall be inviolable. (Article II, Section 6),
and that, No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The free exercise and enjoyment of
religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference,
shall forever be allowed. No religious test shall be required for the exercise
of civil or political rights. (Article III, Section 5).
Furthermore, the right to freedom of religion and the exercise of it is

entrenched in Article 18 of the Universal Declaration on Human Rights and
Article 18 of the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights1
(ICCPR). In the Philippines, Islam, as a comprehensive ad-deen or way of
life, is also a deeply significant part of the cultural and ethnic identity of
the Bangsamoro people. As such the Muslim Filipinos' freedom of religion is
protected as both a cultural right by Article 15 of the International
Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR) and as a right
of minority groups by Article 27 of the ICCPR which states: In those States
in which ethnic, religious or linguistic minorities exist, persons belonging to
such minorities shall not be denied the right, in community with the other
members of their group, to enjoy their own culture, to profess and practise
their own religion, or to use their own language.
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April 10th, 2008, 07:17 PM #117
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bukid in the nursing profession i think it is only proper that hijab is

Fishful banned because we are dealing with people's health and in a hospital
setting everything had to be sterile that is why often times nurses and
doctors need a special attire that would enable them to perform their duty
without any hindrance.
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April 11th, 2008, 03:14 AM #118
RonnieR What's the fuss on this veil? The women Moslem nurses in Indonesia are
Registered User wearing the prescribed nurse cap and not the veil. In Turkey, the women
are not obliged to wear veil.
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April 14th, 2008, 04:35 AM #119
uncle rob I herd this place is not safe for us forieners its a shame.
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shaKEIRa what other universities and colleges ang may MINSUPALA na subject?
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August 27th, 2007, 07:38 PM #101

kiretoce Sangki appointed head of Office on Muslims Affairs

Ampatuan was the former head of the Philippine Overseas Employment

Sangki, who finished a management course at the University of Manchester

of Datu Sangki Dilangalen Ampatuan and Hadja Sophia "Pinanogod"

Sangki is married to Hadja Tita Lim-Sangki of Buluan, Maguindanao. Their

Sangki said he would continue Tomawis’ programs and sustain them in

OMA is mandated by Executive Order No. 122-A to preserve, promote and

"The charter of the bank provides that my qualified successor shall be

Sangki, a former OMA deputy executive director, is a member of the

Sangki’s appointment lauded by Christian and Muslim solons

Christian and Muslim members of the House of Representatives lauded

"Sangki’s profound background as a technocrat, management expertise and

Susano, chairwoman of the House Special Committee on Metro Manila

be very useful in running OMA, one of the most sensitive government

A management graduate of Manchester University in England, Sangki was

September 6th, 2007, 12:52 PM #102

Sinjin P. Islam values to be taught in Lapu-lapu

The proposal is based on the memorandum of agreement (MoA) between

It further states the role of DepEd in identifying prospective ALIVE

ALIVE classes are to be conducted in Basak, Pajo, and Poblacion Primary

Helpful links: Cebu Pacific | Eat&Shop | Sinjin's House | Cebu Daily

September 6th, 2007, 01:27 PM #103

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September 7th, 2007, 02:31 AM #104

Louman I've heard of something like that happening in Malaysia too.

September 20th, 2007, 08:15 AM #105

The Philippine nation is a pluralistic society and culture compared to other

Like the Turkish government, the Philippine government constitutionally

governmental efforts. Instead of fighting against poverty and illiteracy and

inexpensive compared to other universities in the region.

When I interviewed, Dr. Tamano, a prominent Muslim, who is highly

Good administration and politics emphasize rights, the superiority of law,

However, today the Turkish government lags behind the Philippine

Further, in Turkey the government program still uses a military solution to

as well as reconciliation are possible, but if the government is run by

The majority of Muslims in the southern Philippines (the Moros),

Now more Moros have been appointed to national services. A code of

economic development. The Minister of Educational Culture has been

Duterte, Rodrigo. Mayor, Davao City . Personal Interview. 10 July 2007.

Ferrero-Waldner, European Commissioner for External Relations and

Gulerce, Huseyin. “ Diyarbakýr 'ýn mesajý doðru okunmalý .” Zaman.

Mindanao, Cotabato City , Regional Secretary Regional Department of

January 29th, 2008, 09:06 PM #106

Sangki, appointed to OMA by President Arroyo in August, 2007 to "fix and

The observance, to be held at the OMA central office at Jocfer Bldg. on

OMA’s mandate is to "preserve and develop the culture, traditions,

Sangki said a group of "sheikhs" or hajj guides, led by Ustadhz Mohammad

Arroyo appointed Sangki to OMA when his predecessor, Sultan Yahya

EO No. 697 received mixed reactions from OMA employees – some

OPAPP Undersecretary Nabil Tan allayed these apprehensions, saying "we

January 30th, 2008, 10:33 PM #107

kiretoce DepEd to boost mainstreaming of Muslim schools

"Mainstreaming Madrasah Education in our system of basic education is

Undersecretary for Muslim Affairs Manaros Boransing said the project

"While the ALIVE Program is integral to their education, we also recognize

Part of the assistance is expected to go to capability building, which

February 12th, 2008, 11:10 PM #108

Based on a comprehensive study of Philippine languages and dialects, Dr.