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Occupy Valley protesters aim to 'awaken the people'

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With police forces guarding the entrance of Chase Bank branch on Van Nuys Boulevard in Van Nuys on Saturday, Oct. 29, 2011, protesters from the Occupy San Fernando Valley movement march with their signs. ( Ernesto Elizarraraz/Los Angeles Daily News)

VAN NUYS - Police nearly outnumbered a small group of protesters who marched down Van Nuys Boulevard on Saturday, railing against banks and corporate greed as part of the new Occupy San Fernando Valley movement. About 30 protesters made stops at branches of Chase Bank, CitiBank, Wells Fargo and Bank of America along the main throughway. Police positioned themselves between the bank entrances and the demonstrators as the group shouted, "Stop the banksters," and "Banks got bailed out, we got sold out." "It's the banks that have their hands in politics and government," said Chris Palomino, a 24-year-old student from North Hollywood. "I just want to get as much information out to the population, try to get everyone educated out of the illusion that the corporations, that the banks are trying to put them in. We need to awaken the people." But the march, which was escorted by bike police and at least one patrol car, also attracted critics who said the movement's disorganization and lack of clear goals made it pointless. "They're not going to be taken seriously by their actions," said Dee Reynolds, 34, of Northridge, who stopped by to argue with the protesters. "Go occupy a job. Go clean up a neighborhood. "People need to worry more about their day to day lives, and their own personal business," Reynolds said. "They don't really have any demands they can ask for." The turnout was much smaller than both police and organizers had anticipated. Nearly 500 people had `liked' the group's Facebook page, which members hoped to mean that more people would eventually show up to join their cause. "It's unfair that the establishment has taken away from the people of this country for so long now," said protester Antony Cernuto, 46, a musician from Canoga Park. "It has to be fair for everyone, or it can't be fair for anyone." Police, meanwhile, laid out a strict set of rules in stark contrast to the encampment that has sprung up around City Hall downtown. There were to be no
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up around City Hall downtown. There were to be no tents, camping, or writing, painting or affixing signs to trees or public property. Although protesters remained peaceful, police said they plan to enforce the 7 p.m. curfew rule in the plaza, which is surrounded by city, state and federal buildings including the Van Nuys Superior Court. "This isn't a park," said Sgt. Mitzi Fierro of LAPD Media Relations. "This is a government facility. "We're supportive of people exercising their First Amendment rights as long as they follow the rules," Fierro said. Protesters said they would sleep on or roam the sidewalks until 6 a.m., when the plaza reopens, and move back in.

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Do these people not realize that they were also bailed out. If the banks failed, the economy would have collapsed and what we now see as a recession would be a grave depression.There will always be corporate greed in an economy based on capitalism. Should corporations turn their profits over to the people? Sure, to their stockholders, those that invested and took part. Those that didn't, don't see the big picture. Reply 1 Like Follow Post 2 hours ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer Yes, but that does NOT mean that we should ignore the CORRUPTION that necessitated the bailout! Seriously, think about it. You're FOR corruption? You think letting big money do whatever it wants is a GOOD idea? The financial meltdown BENEFITTED you and society? We're better off for it? Come on. Shed the talking points you hold on to so tightly and have a man's conversation about it. Reply 1 Like 2 hours ago Top Commenter Woodland Hills, California

Paul Shively

Rob Miller No one said that we should ignore corruption. You put a lot of words in my mouth and took most of what I said out of context. The talking points are simply this: If you, I or anyone else does not meet the credit worthy guidelines established as part of the Bail Out Guidelines, then we will not benefit and may lose our homes. The Bail Out intention was not that the banks should just hand out

homes. The Bail Out intention was not that the banks should just hand out money to all that asked, but to salvage what could be salvaged of our economy. Reply 1 Like 2 hours ago

Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer Paul Shively "we will not benefit and may lose our homes." Which is wrong. And why Occupy exists. Reply 1 Like 2 hours ago Top Commenter

Steve Fischler

Paul Shively I get it now... NOW they have "Credit Worthy Guidelines" as before the guideline to get a house was basically if you were breathing and could sign on the line. Of course a lot of these people shouldn't have qualified but was that their fault or the corps (banks) loaning the money. Be that as it may, we are now in the situation that we are in. As far as the banks handing out money... ha, like I said earlier they won't even load money to those that are more than qualified. If you were loaned a lot of money on the pretext it would go certain places and you decided to keep it yourself... what would happen... would they just shine that one? Of course not, so what are the banks different? Reply Like about an hour ago Tom Enright Rob Miller // you exist for now.. but NOTHING will change...you are screaming down an empty hallway . You better pray that a real commie agitator does not bring a gun , infiltrate your band of useful idiots and shoot a policeman from your ranks. WHen that happens..and I think it has a good chance of happening God forbid...you will be destroyed. Obama will have no choice but to put a stop to this bs and look like the halfwitted leftist turd he is....so in that regard , thanks for your help in destroying the commiecrats and electing a Republican President, Senate and House...you will see jobs flooding back and the economy turn around in weeks . Reply Like about an hour ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer Tom Enright Ah yes, when logic fails, it always becomes about "bring[ing] a gun." I grew up in Alabama -- i'm quite immune to that kind of rhetoric. And if you for one second believe that getting rid of anyone in the bought & sold White House and replacing him with another bought & sold politician is going to make ANY difference, then you haven't been observing both democratic AND republican presidential politics for the last 50 years. Or you're just willfully ignorant. Reply Like about an hour ago Yonatan Moya Top Commenter

lazy punks looking for a free ride.. i used to live in L.A until i got a good job offered over seas :D Reply 8 Like Follow Post 11 hours ago Steve Fischler Reply Top Commenter

Glad you're gone....You negativity is stifling... 5 Like 6 hours ago

Tom Enright Steve Fischler ...get a job loser Reply 8 Like 5 hours ago Top Commenter

Steve Fischler

Tom Enright Who me, Ha! Yeah right... I'm unemployed... Ha! I have never been so busy in the last 3 years. Reply 3 Like 5 hours ago

Tom Enright Steve Fischler Let me get this straight...Your'e Unemployed...and youv'e never been so busy in the last 3 years ???....Mental patient is NOT a career choice son ...err....loser. Reply Like 5 hours ago Paula Boutte North Hollywood, California Yonatan, the fact that you had to leave the country to follow the good job you have speaks for itself Reply 2 Unlike 4 hours ago

spc7ray (signed in using Yahoo) overseas--American you are --yea right Reply Like 3 hours ago Rebecca Downs Top Commenter

why is it "looking for a free ride" to protest the theft of billions from the economy by a now obscenely wealthy few? why is it lazy to protest the rewriting of law by lobbyists paid for by the very wealthy, to favor the wealthy in tax law and in de-regulation? protesting is the american way to be heard when you are not rich enough to be heard through a lobbyist. Reply 1 Unlike about an hour ago

Alina Szpak You guys are hartless idiots - I just wait and see what you will do if you get sick and loose jobs and all your savings - banks will not help you when you are poor! Reply Like 30 minutes ago Tracy Brandis "Go occupy a job!" ...that's priceless...LOL Reply 6 Like Follow Post 5 hours ago steamingpileofchrist (signed in using Yahoo) Or occupy Sesame Street. Most occupiers failed in learning it seems. Reply 3 Like 4 hours ago

spc7ray (signed in using Yahoo) You need to be carefull of the youth today--they are much more violent than in the 60s---If something isnt done soon all of you spouting this commy crap will be in real trouble--People are losing there homes and jobs ( overseas-so the corps can get richer) Do you think the corporations care about our country?-If our country goes down theyt will just take there money and go somewhere else then where will all of you be?--There is much more here at stake than just the kids here-Cops-Firemen Teachers are all losing there jobs--Occupy is simple 99%needs help--1% are rich and dont care! Reply 3 Like 3 hours ago

Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer steamingpileofchrist Like learning the Golden Rule? Seems like Occupy is the only one who seems to REMEMBER that one. In case you're unclear: Occupy is protesting corruption in politics and the financial sector. It's really quite simple. Reply 2 Like 3 hours ago

Karen Taylor Riggs Huntington Beach, California It takes an incredible amount of dedication to do what they are doing, braving the elements, intimidation and negativity of people who don't see the big picture. Reply 5 Unlike Follow Post 5 hours ago Tom Enright Are you insane? Reply 2 Like 5 hours ago

lgdevelopment742 (signed in using Yahoo) And what is the big picture? Reply Like 5 hours ago spc7ray (signed in using Yahoo) Tom Enright --I think you need to look a little bit more Reply Like 3 hours ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer lgdevelopment742 The big picture is this: Occupy is protesting corruption in politics and the financial sector. It's really quite simple. Reply 1 Like 3 hours ago Top Commenter

Rebecca Downs

It is very difficult to figure out a next step, but the first step is for our voices to be heard. One regulation after another has been altered to suit the the wealthy over the last 30 years, in response to corporate lobbyists who write our laws and no-one has spoken up - and the result was the wall street crash - from which a favored few benefitted greatly. Now the taxpayers have bailed out the very institutions that gambled and took down their economy, making a few more people VERY rich (and both Democratic and Republican lawmakers supported that choice) So clearly voting one way or another did not help. So now, without the benefit of lobbyists, this is what a citizen must do in order to be heard. Reply Like about an hour ago Alina Szpak spc7ray no Tom its you who is insane, pardon me... just stupid. Reply Like 29 minutes ago Rhonda Ellermann San Bernardino Valley College, The American College These kids look way to young to know what they are doing. Reply 4 Like Follow Post 10 hours ago Jessenia Martinez Top Commenter

That's probably because they are just out there doing it because everyone else is... Reply 4 Like 9 hours ago

Tom Enright These morons aren't even fully cooked yet.... Reply 3 Like 5 hours ago

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steamingpileofchrist (signed in using Yahoo) Young and dumb is precisely what the commie organizers of these OWS protest are counting one. Useful idiots the whole bunch of them. Reply 3 Like 4 hours ago

Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer "And these children that you spit on, as they try to change their world, are immune to your consultations. They're QUITE AWARE of what they're going through." In case you're unclear: Occupy is protesting corruption in politics and the financial sector. It's really quite simple. Reply 1 Like 3 hours ago

Tom Enright Rob Miller ..I'll say it again ..WHAT ARE THAY ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING WITHOUT ELECTING THEIR CANDIDATES??.....zero....Moron Reply Like 2 hours ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer Tom Enright Replacing one bought & sold politician with another one isn't going to accomplish anything. The "taking sides" mentality you (and so so many others) are still stuck in is just an illusion created to distract us from the real issues. Reply Like 2 hours ago Tom Enright Rob Miller then YOU and these other f'n morons have only one goal....overthrow of this government and institution of full communism...since you losers are actually 1 one thousanth of one percent ...we, the real 99.999 percent will just have to take measures to protect our Republic . You aholes are in for a very nasty surprise..... Reply Like 2 hours ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer Tom Enright We have no such intention, and you know it. No one is camping out in the streets to make things WORSE. Occupy is here to stay until those in power -- those who ALREADY have the tools to fix the problems, just not the political will to do so -- start to summon that political will and start to fix the real problems that big money has allowed to divide this country so horribly. Again: Make no mistake: You may be taking sides, but Occupy isn't. You may be entrenched in your outdated partisan positions, but we are NOT. ...See More Reply Like 2 hours ago Rebecca Downs Top Commenter

Tom Enright you seem to need to call anyone you don't agree with a moronwhich demonstrates that you don't really have a handle on what reasoned debate or free speech really are- or that living in a democratic republic includes many different voices. OWS is having a problem with the clarity of its message because so many different kinds of people have been hurt in the last 10 years their retirements have been stolen - yes, stolen, and handed to corporate CEO's as "bonuses". (read "Retirement Heist") Decent jobs have been shipped overseas for the last 30 years. I am bewildered by your belief that protesting these things is a desire to institute a communist agenda of some sort, but that again is kind of a typical boogeyman people are trying to insert into this conversation, where it actually has no place. (along with socialism, marxism, terrorism...) Reply Bernie Miller 1 Unlike about an hour ago

Top Commenter West Los Angeles, California

No one is looking for a free ride. We are tired of the corruption that you are encouraging with comments like this. Banks were bailed out with my taxes, but the people were not. Reply 3 Unlike Follow Post 3 hours ago Steve Fischler Top Commenter

One of my points exactly. I have friends with excellent credit that are eligible to refi their home but the banks won't cut loose with the money. That was part of the deal when they got bailed out... If that doesn't speak of corruption you tell me what does? Reply Lee Cox 3 Unlike 3 hours ago

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These protesters are no better than the ones in Greece. First, they are paid to do the dirty work to distract from the lack of leadership in Washington. They blame the banks and cooporations. Where were they when they or their parents signed phoney loans for their homes? They lied then but it was OK. Our state needs jobs but that won't happen as long as the unions and Sacramento remove regulations that make it possible. Banks won't loan as they don't know what the future brings. Liberals offer free rides to illegals and businesses won't hire. There's plenty of money for pay raises and benefits. I'm sick and tired of the double standards. These protesters should go to Washington that's where the blame is. Reply 2 Like Follow Post about an hour ago Tom Enright EXACTLY CORRECT LEE !!!! Reply Like about an hour ago

Bernie Miller

Top Commenter West Los Angeles, California

I encourage everyone to watch the movie too Big To Fail and there is one comment in there that answers this question: "Will they do with the money what we want them to do?" The answer was "I hope so".. They did not.. They took the money, invested it in hedge funds etc, and paid out huge bonuses... And congress did nothing.. The $4trillion was for the loses the banks incurred from the housing market.. However no one ever handed over $4trillion to the people to cover their loses... So the people instead of being bailed out were foreclosed on... Where is the justice? Reply 2 Like Follow Post 2 hours ago Top Commenter Minneapolis, Minnesota

April Sonnestrom

Saw the OWS crowd in my hometown. There were about 10 people holding signs. Looking at the people there, I swear OWS stands for Old White Socialists. Reply 2 Like Follow Post 6 hours ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer And read another report, and we're supposed to be a bunch of stupid kids. Keep trying to divide. It won't work. Make no mistake: You may be taking sides, but Occupy isn't. You may be entrenched in your outdated partisan positions, but we are NOT. We are NOT going to be forced into ANY partisanship or divisiveness. We represent ALL of the 99%. (Yes, you AND me. Red AND blue and every color in between) Our ONLY opponent is the 1% who control DC. Reply 3 Like 3 hours ago

steamingpileofchrist (signed in using Yahoo) Corp "greed" is what supplies people with jobs you idiot protestors. Reply 2 Like Follow Post 4 hours ago spc7ray (signed in using Yahoo) It will be seen sooner than most think! Reply Like 3 hours ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer Corporate and other big money interests' CORRUPTION does NOT supply anyone with a job. Stop spouting talking points and LOOK AROUND YOU. You're just a dollar sign to the MSM you're parroting. Wake up. We're both on the same side. You are us, and we represent ALL of the 99%. (Yes, you AND me. Red AND blue and every color in between) Our ONLY opponent is the 1% who control DC. Reply 2 Like 3 hours ago Top Commenter

Rebecca Downs

actually corporate greed is why a lot of people are out of jobs. CEO's fire a bunch of people and then the money that is saved goes into the pockets of a few as a bonus. Reply Glenn E Grab Reply 2 Unlike about an hour ago Top Commenter Los Angeles, California

would any employer hire these cry-babies?... 2 Like Follow Post 2 hours ago Tom Enright 100% of employers can spot these losers in any reasonable interview process...They show their true colors and never get hired...they do this to themselves and are expecting us , the REAL 99.99 to pay their way...not happening...these turds are in for a nasty surprise . Reply Like about an hour ago Rebecca Downs Top Commenter

so you are saying that 12-20% unemployment in our country is a result of the fact that your fellow americans are crybabies no-one wants to hire? is that also the cause of the wall street crash? Reply 2 Unlike 55 minutes ago

Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer again, ad hominem attacks are used by those who have no actual argument. They can't argue with Occupy's stance. And Glenn? I HAVE A JOB. I'm one of the lucky ones. I consider it an honor to be able to have the means to Occupy, and I'm there (and here) on behalf of all those who can't. (or choose not to for now, like you and Tom Enright) Reply 2 Like 38 minutes ago

Alina Szpak Rob Miller, thank you, you definitely speak for me. Reply Like 27 minutes ago Bernie Miller Top Commenter West Los Angeles, California

No they would not.. Why? They don't live in China or India... Reply Like 14 minutes ago

Pamela Verrinder

Top Commenter Redondo Beach, California

Why is a story about 30 people a big deal? The bigger deal is the number of people who did NOT show up. One of OWS issues for people tuning out is they are letting everyone have a voice with no clear topics or goals. Of the people who are protesting how many have ever filled out a tax return? Reply 1 Like Follow Post 4 hours ago spc7ray (signed in using Yahoo) I have for 40 yrs! Reply 1 Like 3 hours ago Top Commenter

Steve Fischler

I have filed my returns for decades... In fact, I ended up sending the I.R.S. a check for $8,000 for this last year. That hurt! ....but I always say, if you make the money you pay the taxes.. and being in the 25% bracket doesn't help either. Reply 2 Like 3 hours ago Top Commenter

Rebecca Downs

so you think that the economy is in great shape, that wall street SHOULD have been bailed out, that 12-18% unemployment is awesome and that the CEOs that paid lobbyists to get the rules changed so that they could plunder the retirement accounts of millions of workers were being innovative and smart and deserved to pocket that money? Reply Michael J. Menna 2 Unlike about an hour ago Subscribe University of the Arts

Before getting out of your bed in the morning to start your day there is one thing that you must first do and that is to open your eyes and wake up to your surroundings. We can't go through our day with our eyes closed now can we? Now what we choose to see is another story. What do you see when you open your eyes in the morning? Reply Like Follow Post about an hour ago Alan Di Top Commenter California State University, Northridge

Corporate greed is what keeps their parents working and puts food on the table. Without corporate greed, there wouldn't be any colleges for them to learn how to protest. Reply Like Follow Post about an hour ago Rebecca Downs Top Commenter

corporate greed is why their parents lost their pensions - pensions they EARNED as part of their pay package - and why there are no jobs in this country for them Reply Robert Gone 2 Unlike about an hour ago

Top Commenter Sherman Oaks Center For Enriched Studies

These guys have a righteous cause, unlike like the tea baggers. Now those people are looney cowards! Reply Like Follow Post 2 hours ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer Don't point fingers or take sides. We're all in this together, Tea Partier and Occupier (and 99% of everyone else) alike. Reply Glenn E Grab 2 Like 2 hours ago Top Commenter Los Angeles, California

the only thing that will awaken us is your bad smell!! Reply Like Follow Post 2 hours ago Phil Osopher How long did it take you to come up with that gem? WTF does it mean? Reply Like about an hour ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer ad hominem attacks are classy. Reply Like about an hour ago Sam Park Fort Irwin, California these people need to get a job. . .then get a life. . . Reply Like Follow Post about an hour ago Rob Miller Works at Freelance Producer I HAVE A JOB. I'm not fighting for me -- I happen to be one of the lucky ones. And once again, Sam Park: We're on the same side. The big money interests in power WANT us to take sides and bicker amongst each other so that we ignore their crimes, and they pay to have the law rewritten so that what they do BECOMES legal. It's not red vs. blue. It's an old idea that has gotten us nowhere. Time to try something else. Something like working toward the unity of all of 99% of us for whom this government was created, so that we can wrestle power away from the big money 1% that have been buying and selling our country to make a buck for themselves. Reply 1 Like about an hour ago

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