Club 24 Thread: The Great Xpert Debate Thread

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Muskateer mne: The Great Xpert Debate Thread Skrivet: 2008-03-13 13:20:17 There are a lot of quality managers in this league, and a lot of people who contribute to the main forum etc. Trouble with the main forum is, it's full of idiots who chip in with useful comments such as "i got lots of injuries or id be ranked in the top10 easy i won my private leaguye cup in season to" and shit like that, which you have to sift through to get to the people whose opinion you might actually value. And Dr. Flugel is on there. So all in all, surely this forum represents a good opportunity to discuss stuff without the tools? As in, you know, stuff about the way the game works. Chrille and Duffster both differentiate, at times, between playing to win and playing to suit the game's ranking system, for example - that's pretty interesting. Or how many trophies people have won versus their ranking - can you consider yourself good if you've not got anything in your cabinet except a division 6 winner's medal? Even if you're ranked extremely well? Or what about's Bloc's contention that certain formations 'beat' other ones, as opposed to all being created equal? This thread'll probably die on its arse and no one will contribute anything because they don't want to give info to their rivals, but personally I'd like to see what discussions develop.. Just an idea, innit. Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-13 13:22:09 So for example, does anyone else have tactics to win that are slightly different from tactics to get ranking points? The obvious example that everyone sites is playing offensive away against shit or low-form teams - probably a good idea, but the game penalises you for it. But Duffster, you went from my sort of ranking to top-50 in about a week! Just by deciding to 'play the game' as it were surely you didn't just start playing cautious away from home? What other factors have such a strong effect? Blu3red Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-13 13:38:12 I only know one secret. If your opponent is playing "tigthen the centre" then you should play "wing plays" Muskateer Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-03-13 13:44:41 Ah, so that's why you're ranked 42! Holidays Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-13 14:34:24 Uppdaterat: 2008-03-13 14:36:19 I pretty much play 3-5-2 Defensive all the time with most of my teams... this side being the only exception right now, and next season I imagine I will build a team to play that every game. Both ranking and result wise it seems to work brilliantly against every formation really. I do agree with Bloc and disagree with Duffster... I am in the camp that believes certain formations beat others, and am pretty confident I know most of the combinations to get an advantage. This said, I've realized recently the benefit of consistency.. play 1 formation all the time. If it's predicted then you don't lose anything, if it isn't you gain a big advantage. The key for me is getting everything else right. YGA Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-03-13 15:09:18 Ursprungligen postat av: Holidays play 1 formation all the time. If it's predicted then you don't lose anything, if it isn't you gain a big advantage. The key for me is getting everything else right. That's exactly what i do in one of my teams, and i think should do that with the others as well, but i can't do it now in the xpert league as i will lose some points in the next coming two to three matches while i'm in great need of points. The best formation imo is 4-5-1. I rarely lose matches with that formation if i have a very good midfield. Muskateer Svar till: YGA Skrivet: 2008-03-13 15:14:12 Yeah I used to use 4-5-1 a lot, but then it sort of lost its shine for some reason..

Part of me does think that 3-5-2 is fundamentally an ace formation. Particularly when used with pressure but not offensive so no late goals conceded. Not to self: go back to playing 3-5-2 all the time.. Muskateer Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-13 15:15:03 p.s what's with 'Dudek Michel' being your sub-keeper...? Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-13 15:43:42 Uppdaterat: 2008-03-13 15:45:14 Citera Svara 3-5-2 with 3 good, reliable defenders and a quality goalkeeper is the way I like to build teams. I always play Defensive because it's works really well away, and at home makes most opponents look too attacking, even when they're not. 3-5-2 is an attacking formation anyway, so chances are always created anyway even with the cautious edge. I think 3-5-2 Defensive is the best tactic on the game for me, and when I move Xpert teams, hopefully to a team I'll stay right until I leave the site, I'll switch every team to that as default. In Xtreme, people all know what they're dealing with when they play my team, and I make a point of it that the onus is always upon the opponent to break it down. I'm the highest ranked manager in that league by quite a long way, so it shows it works from a ranking point of view, and results recently haven't been bad either, considering the team is very young and I play Careful as Default. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-03-13 16:43:30 Citera Svara Hmmm, that is bizzarre that the game rewards 3-5-2 defensive every time with a 12-rating though, don't you think? I might try it with my Portugal side, seeing as I only care about that league and not about the team... Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-13 17:22:33 Citera Svara Nah i'am the opposite of thinking formations work i know they sound good i.e the common one like 4-3-3 v 3-5-2 etc..& how manager x always counters certain formations then manager y will come up with a game that says otherwise etc.. it's all dependant on your own team and the next opponents team mainly strenght for me & what area too expose (try) one

thing i always do with my xpert team is look at my opponents form in each area via team stats that gives me a good idea & first incline to his formation & weak areas then where best for me to set my formation etc.. like tonights cup game i have they are not a bad d5 team & i have swapped formation about 4 times already today i think he may go 4-5-1 & i can't auto say i have a formation to beat that it's more what areas can i get the better of for this one game, is keepers are rather low on form & attack looks weak those 2 things will prob decide on what formation i use. Everyone has there own ways of doing things thats one of best things the game has imo as you hear all the time about how little tactics on offfer yet there is loads of different opinions on how best to use the little variety we do have .

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan YGA [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [YGA] Blev medlem: 2007-01-10 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-13 19:02:55 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer p.s what's with 'Dudek Michel' being your sub-keeper...? I changed my player names to the players of madrid, and the last name of our sub-goalkeeper is Dudek, but i dont know his first name, so i just put it randomly lol...

Once a madridista>>> <<< Always a madridista Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: YGA Skrivet: 2008-03-13 19:16:29 Citera Svara It's Jerzy Dudek, lol

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Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-03-13 19:18:18 Citera Svara I through ranking out the window a few seasons ago as i was pissed off with not being promoted. I then preceded to do well in the Cup and get promoted a couple of times but my ranking stayed static. With recently losing out on a team that I really wanted and the hearing that the Swedish leagues would go international I decided to go back to working on my ranking again and it is going ok so far. I agree with both Muskateer and Duffster. There are certain formations that tend to do very well against others, but I also feel that there is no substitute for trying to find patterns in your oppositions play. Holidays, I disagree that 3-5-2 is always the best formation for any team and i think i proved that in the euro xtreme. It is, however, a fantastic formation when you are at home.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-03-14 08:32:53 Citera Svara I think that no formation is better than any other, but blatantly in some situations an area of the side is just too weak to cope - so 5-2-3 is very rarely going to work against a 5-man midfield, even if the defenders and three attackers give you a big advantage in those areas. Interesting what you said about viewing form of each area in the team stats, Duff. I've already set my team up for our game today so I won't use it this time! I basically used to be totally in the 'certain formations are good' camp, and also used to think 3-5-2 couldn't be used away and stuff like that, but now I pick everything on its merits of the specific game, and it's got me up from a 2000-ish ranking. Although that may only be temporary... Basil how are you doing in the heady heights of Div 2? Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-14 09:31:57 Citera Svara I used to use 3-5-2 a lot, my start was similar to holidays when i got my very first team i was in the power lge i used 3-5-2

a lot with that team & stayed unbeaten with them for full season,since i wasn't getting a good challenge and too many easy games in lower division i applied for Brampton Hitmen in D2... Last nights cup game i ended up going for 3-4-3 against that team i thought would go 4-5-1 ..also marked his striker rather than a mid, he went 4-5-1 and we win 3-1.... but i changed that formation a few times -433-442-352-before i made my mind up. I only use the form search for my xpert team, would take too much time for all teams.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-14 10:48:07 Uppdaterat: 2008-03-14 10:50:12 Citera Svara My ranking has been very high at times but the fact that I've not got any trophy in my cabinet makes the ranking look pretty stupid. The thing I'm good at in this game is playing in Divisions, you know, when you play home & away games and in the end, the team that comes 1st wins the league. As for the C.L System, I've won many Groups but I always seem to fail when it comes to that shitty Xpert Arena. I've never had a full season with the Mooses, so I hope the season coming now will be a good one even though my team is one of the weakest sides there due to having a few youths. EDIT - I also believe that being prepared for your opponent's formation has a great impact on the game and going for your opponent's formation and FAILING has a greater impact too.[/EN] Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-03-15 10:57:39 Uppdaterat: 2008-03-15 10:58:25 Citera Svara Its a bit odd being back to pushing for ranking now, but I also know how Karisma feels when I got my ranking down fairly low and could not win jack shit. Not sure that you will be suffering that feeling for too long as the Mooses are a good team. I would totally agree with Dufster about checking the form of each section of a team (and how time consuming it is) but I would add one thing. I always try and keep 20 players in my squad at all time. Some of them will never play or may come on as a sub in a real crisis but they are there to help disguise my form in particular areas. It is best when their form is as low as possible. I then sack them at the end of the season before the skill update. Muskateer - To be honest it is a bit dull and not half the challenge that division 3 was. I expected a lot better but only Spiry has been a challenge when I got a draw at hers. She was not best pleased when I marked her keeper who was on a

syringe, either. I have beaten once by my old team in the bounce games but even I did not think he would have the stones to play 4-2-4 two games in a row. And absolutely nothing will compare to the last game of last season when you relegated Illuminations and did a great press release showing him up as the inept twat that he is

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-03-15 15:04:24 Uppdaterat: 2008-03-15 15:05:10 Citera Svara Most my teams have 19 or 20 players and I still think we should get at least 23 players in a squad. The problem with that is that I'm always struggling in getting someone out to replace him with another and since there is no time sometimes, you just have to sack an 'okay' player. Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-03-15 16:03:11 Citera Svara I feel like i was a better manager about 3 months ago then i am now, I've hit a "wall" in my ranking where it stays in the 2000's. I feel i should counter better then i have lately, maybe thats my fault because i havent had the time like i did a while back. I play mostly to my strengths, as i feel some formations dont work for my team. 4-3-3 is the trickiest to me. I just cant get good results from it, 4-5-1 and 3-5-2 are my favorite's to use in leagues but i always use one league to test tactics out to see how each works. Flytta till verst p sidan 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ...

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... Frfattare Meddelande James_gregg [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-25 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2008-03-18 00:59:08 Citera Svara ha ha i dont really have much of a story, only that im in my second team in the xpert league, and previous to sunday, was doing better than uncle wilf, whom i remember rapped me on the knuckles months back when i was being a noob in the forum oh how times change. So seeing as all of you have a lot more experience than me i need some advice. I've always wanted to win in the Xpert leagues, i use my private teams for a good laugh and experiment, but xpert leagues i strive to win, and one day i hope to get into the Hall of Fame (ok high hopes but a boy can dream ) So obviously thats going to be tough, so should i: A - Stay with my current team, bring in a few younger players, but basically stick with my winning formula, and aim for my dream B- Do what i can with this team but keep looking at the Job Centre

or C - Sell all my players, bring in a load of youngsters, and try and build a phenomanal team As i said, you lot are more experienced, so please enlighten me Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: James_gregg Skrivet: 2008-03-18 01:21:08 Citera Svara No need to dream,confidence never harmed anyone common problem on this site is though ppl think you set to high or a little far-fetched if you think like that.. ah well you can tell them that when you do it funny enough this topic came up today again .. as for me i would work at your ranking keep a close eye on the J/C and make the right move when it suits you & feels right. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=2716445&forumid=26&read=1

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan James_gregg [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-25 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-03-18 01:24:31 Citera Svara ha ha literally 30 seconds before reading this i applied for majestic reds. have withdrawn though, whats the point joining a team which are going to get relegated, when there is a good chance im going to get promoted Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: James_gregg Skrivet: 2008-03-18 01:41:14 Citera Svara Be better teams than that out there, Basil picked up a nice team today too, that one in the ultimate lge is a nice outfit

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-03-18 10:52:34 Citera Svara [horrified gasp] Basil has left the dream league..? Flytta till verst p sidan The_Manc [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-08-04 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-18 11:18:47 Citera Svara Crossed the line and gone Swedish Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: The_Manc Skrivet: 2008-03-18 11:45:22 Citera Svara Well, I suppose that is acceptable.. Great new opportunities and all that. My wife got a new job today too (in real life, rather than xpert..) - maybe that is in some way significant! Maybe I secretly wish to marry Basil. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-18 19:34:30 Citera Svara My wife would object, hopefully Yep, I have gone to pastures new. Dont take it the wrong way Muskateer, but the Dream League has not been much of a challenge really and I think you will find thats why more of C24 and Euroextreme are winding up there as there is a great chance of making it to the XCL.

Although the Knights were good, it was the defense and goal keeper (and of course my strategies) that kept the team going. The midfield and attack had youth coming through but you are talking 4-6 seasons. I would have made it up to D1 at the end of this season but so will Duffster and his team was much better than mine, though we have yet to play a competitive game against each other . With Stutz bagging Portom there was going to be some tough managers in the way of winning the Dream League so I though I would take a gamble and go for a new team in uncharted waters. Its a risk, and it will either pay off or it wont, but if you don't take chances in life (or x11), where do you get?? The team I have now is a step up and because there are a couple of uber teams in the Job Centre at the moment there were a lot of people applying for them so I managed to get my new team.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-03-19 14:33:27 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Basilbrush303 My wife would object, hopefully Yep, I have gone to pastures new. Dont take it the wrong way Muskateer, but the Dream League has not been much of a challenge really and I think you will find thats why more of C24 and Euroextreme are winding up there as there is a great chance of making it to the XCL.

Very true, but my theory is if you stick with a league long enough it will eventually reach a plateau at the same level as the best leagues - a player can only get so good in his career, afterall. Anyway, since I read this about you I'm glad you've left... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/mar/18/television.race Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-03-21 00:06:00 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer Very true, but my theory is if you stick with a league long enough it will eventually reach a plateau at the same level as the best leagues - a player can only get so good in his career, afterall. Anyway, since I read this about you I'm glad you've left... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/mar/18/television.race Its totally not true. I said 'Tim' and they dubbed my voice over with Gyppo!

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-03-21 11:30:48 Citera Svara Happens all the time.. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-04-07 20:58:21 Citera Svara I have a question: My natural instinct is to train players for games. As in, they finish before or on the day of the game. I imagine(d) this was pretty normal. An idiot in my league says he trains to finish the day after the game. I dismissed this at first, partly because he's an idiot and partly because it seems stupid, and to involve an awful lot of guess work. But now someone has told me CosmicRichie also does this, and I can kind of see why it isn't as stupid as it first appears. So, does anyone else do this and is it any good? Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-04-10 00:28:22 Citera Svara I usually train to finish around the time of my game with xpert team, in priv lges i try do the same but never works that way due to lack of funds,unless you have a nice pot of cash to sort training into a routine it's difficult to keep to, coupled with unforseen injurys (knocks).

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http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan StatesideWhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-07-18 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-04-10 01:17:03 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer I have a question: My natural instinct is to train players for games. As in, they finish before or on the day of the game. I imagine(d) this was pretty normal. An idiot in my league says he trains to finish the day after the game. I dismissed this at first, partly because he's an idiot and partly because it seems stupid, and to involve an awful lot of guess work. But now someone has told me CosmicRichie also does this, and I can kind of see why it isn't as stupid as it first appears. So, does anyone else do this and is it any good? In my Xpert team, I train the day after matches. I only have one match a week and they finish before the next match with a few days to spare of hopefully good training results. IN private leagues, I do try and have the player finish the day after matches to offset the match effects and get them ready to go for the next one. But with two matches a week sometimes you have to pick and choose which game you want them in top form and which match you want them to train during. I have good results in season updates, but in the end it depends on the player and his tendencies. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: StatesideWhite Skrivet: 2008-04-21 13:24:08 Citera Svara I like to train when I have money and I always train youths (16-18), even when on very high form. I also like to do predictive training when i think that hidden form will turn negative. I noticed that bloc put a forum post about what he sees as the increase in 'minimal effect'. In my estimation the reality of the situation is that there is increase in players with hidden negative form who are being trained, rather than an increase in 'minimal effect', as minimal effect is the best result in form training you can get.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11

Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-04-24 01:58:09 Citera Svara I have something i ant to ask everyone. What's your feelings on the proposed morale changes etc.. by iwe?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-04-24 07:37:25 Uppdaterat: 2008-04-24 07:47:24 Citera Svara News to me. Did I miss something?? Edit: Yes I did......seen it in ideas and suggestion. Any idea of timescale??

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-04-24 09:43:59 Citera Svara To me it looks ever so slightly random.. and like it might undermine manager skill.. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem:

2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-04-24 10:31:05 Citera Svara Just wish they would take the time to explain things proper when they come up with stuff, it's now a guessing game as to what exactly it is going to bring & what effect.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-04-24 10:53:12 Citera Svara Sounds like Iwe been playing Football Manager again . Flytta till verst p sidan 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ...

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... Frfattare Meddelande Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-04-24 10:53:12 Citera Svara Sounds like Iwe been playing Football Manager again . Flytta till verst p sidan YGA [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [YGA] Blev medlem: 2007-01-10 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-04-24 13:01:12 Uppdaterat: 2008-04-24 13:02:47 Citera Svara I'm sure you would all love it, and i would as well, but that is because we will know how to deal with the game if implemented, but to a new manager, these things are very complicating, and very hard to deal with especially if they knew no one on the site. Think of it: form; Morale; losing red heart, etc... .

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[Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: YGA Skrivet: 2008-04-24 23:00:27 Citera Svara I have several 'ideas' about this. 1. iwe has been banging on about developing a team and using the youth system much more. I think he is about to make the youth talent which comes with the heart much more valuable. 2. As there will now be team expectations coupled with players with low morale it may no longer be possible to put out 'your best team' as far as ranking is concerned. It will have to be a balance between form and morale. Since i imagine winning will be the best thing for a teams morale, there will be more emphasis on winning a game and not getting manager ranking than ending up with a draw that might give you more ranking. 3. i have posted in the ideas and suggestion forum and would very much like to know if team expectations will be known to the manager or not. if they are then this could make a massive difference

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-04-28 19:15:54 Citera Svara I see we have some new referees. I put an thread in the Xpert forum, but does anyone know how many there are and their values??

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-05-12 11:59:05 Citera Svara

And now the change to playing friendlys? A lot of folk seem to be getting upset by a lot of fourthcoming changes. i never let changes annoy me tbh and i'm usually quick to adapt, i try not look in the main forums as much now as this was one of the things annoying me when i was Mod (having to read constant moans) was having a negative effect on my game, but i still scan the forum for info on changes and stuff & now read what/when i want, was just sitting reading through the friendly game changes. what do others feel about them?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-05-12 12:12:53 Citera Svara Well I got into a row with Fucktor Flugel about it, so I'm probably going to be follow your example and just stay out of it in future... I don't like the change, but felt that any chance of people (crew) taking people's feelings seriously was completely undermined by Flugel and others bleating on about favouring the Swedes (for God's sake - they're opening up all the xpert leagues so I really don't know how anyone can bother with the conspiracies anymore). But yeah, I really need friendlies late on in the Xpert and EuroXtreme to get my average form up, so I thought the change was a bit of a blow. Like you said though, it's easy enough to adapt rather than moan! Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-05-12 15:56:25 Citera Svara i hear he's been banned for 1 month. (flugel)

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Citera Svara Whaaat? From the forums of the whole game..? Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-05-12 16:02:03 Citera Svara Yes. 2008-05-12 13:35:31 16676 iwe FB, abuse. Gone to far. Starting to insult other people. Will be banned from the forum for a month.

Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-05-12 16:05:54 Citera Svara Wow. Any Flugel fans on here before I celebrate with wild abandon? Flytta till verst p sidan The_Manc [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-08-04 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-05-12 16:33:36 Citera Svara Er.....Nah. *Looks around room to make sure* Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: The_Manc Skrivet: 2008-05-12 19:55:03

Uppdaterat: 2008-05-12 19:55:47 Citera Svara Everytime a new change comes in people always moan about it, but after awhile it seems to be accepted by people. Mainly cause they have to adapt to it, So for right now i'm holding my opinion about the friendly notation changes. I dont like the change, but after my Xpert league season if i see anything different then you'll know my opinion.

Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-05-12 20:05:56 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster And now the change to playing friendlys? A lot of folk seem to be getting upset by a lot of fourthcoming changes. i never let changes annoy me tbh and i'm usually quick to adapt, i try not look in the main forums as much now as this was one of the things annoying me when i was Mod (having to read constant moans) was having a negative effect on my game, but i still scan the forum for info on changes and stuff & now read what/when i want, was just sitting reading through the friendly game changes. what do others feel about them? I don't like it in champion league set ups as I often use the games at the end of the season to play friendlies and get my average form up. It non champion league set ups it wont matter to me.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-05-12 20:27:49 Citera Svara Ye the EuroXtreme's Amsterdam Tourny will prob have around 2 teams lol.

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Flytta till verst p sidan The_Manc [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-08-04 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-05-12 21:06:04 Citera Svara In the USL we have something similar. 1st round losers enter the bingley tourney followed by the second round losers up to 16 teams. So far we have 6 entries with the 1st round just finished, so it hasnt bothered these guys. Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: The_Manc Skrivet: 2008-05-12 21:38:08 Citera Svara I am one of very few I know of that actually like the change. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-05-17 20:49:02 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-17 20:49:30 Citera Svara What about this to reignite this thread, seeing as lot's of good stuff is getting lost on scribble: Long-Shots is the best attacking tactic. (Because it requires both centre-tightening and pressure to counter it fully, so teams with 2 or 3 man midfields or teams playing offensive or very offensive who don't want to their already knackered players to concede late goals are fucked as they can't use pressure.) Discuss.

Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-05-17 22:09:09 Citera Svara No.. actually long-shots is the worst attacking tactic because it can be countered either with pressure and tighten the

centre. So if you use pressure, in my opinion is like you guessed his tactic. It's good to do both(pressure+tighten the centre) but you don't actually if your opponent plays long range shots. Best attacking tactic is wing plays, because not many managers know that wing plays is not just countered by tighten the wings.

Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-05-17 22:27:44 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-17 22:28:41 Citera Svara I quite like playing long shots but occasionally as most managers don't expect it. If I am playing a team that normally does not play pressure then some times I do play it and its works quite well.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan YGA [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [YGA] Blev medlem: 2007-01-10 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-05-18 00:45:43 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-18 00:46:24 Citera Svara I try to change my offensive and defensive tactics as much as i could, and imo long range shots is the best one out of through plays and wings plays, but i only play them if 1)i have at least one midfielder with shooting power s.q. 2)if i know my opponent wont be playing tighten the center. I dont care if my opponent plays pressure, but at the same time have the weaker midfield, and the reason is obvious; Your midfielders are better > more possession of the ball > more chances! I know playing pressure would make your possession of the ball lower, but from my point of view long range shots is not very influenced by pressure (in the situation i mentioned of course). Maybe some of you would disagree, but every one of us has his own tactical views.

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Ursprungligen postat av: Blu3red No.. actually long-shots is the worst attacking tactic because it can be countered either with pressure and tighten the centre. So if you use pressure, in my opinion is like you guessed his tactic. It's good to do both(pressure+tighten the centre) but you don't actually if your opponent plays long range shots. Best attacking tactic is wing plays, because not many managers know that wing plays is not just countered by tighten the wings. Hmmm, that's interesting... So it really is one or the other (tighten centre OR pressure)? I always thought it was both but given your ranking I'll believe you... And that teaser about Wing Plays - any more clues about that or are you going to leave us guessing!? Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-05-18 12:52:25 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-18 12:53:54 Citera Svara I agree with Blu on one thing, Wing Plays is the best attacking tactic. However the confusing bit about not being the countered by just Tighten the Wings is just conjecture. Of course, the best way to tighten the wings IMO is to defend Normal and put a player with Aerial abilty in goal, and a player with heading in Defence. Unfortunately I don't have any aerial keepers in any team apart from FF at the moment. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-05-18 14:05:23 Citera Svara No the best way is to tighten the wings Perhaps what Blu is on about is the old chesnut, that some believe if yo tighten the wings then DON'T use pressure with it. I do lke wing play tbh and use it quite a bit across my teams, but LRS is a very decent tactic aswell and i have had a lot of luck with it, only drawback is it's not s great when used away from home.

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Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-05-18 14:21:49 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster No the best way is to tighten the wings Indeedy.. RPS said always counter the tactics regardless of the SQs, and I'll always go with what he says! Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Perhaps what Blu is on about is the old chesnut, that some believe if yo tighten the wings then DON'T use pressure with it. Whaaat? Tightening the wings and not pressure is somehow better? How come? Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster I do lke wing play tbh and use it quite a bit across my teams, but LRS is a very decent tactic aswell and i have had a lot of luck with it, only drawback is it's not s great when used away from home. I find long-range shots works well as non-SQd players seem to be very good at it. For my Zildjian side, where I have a low manager rating becuase I use it a lot of the time even though people know I will and then I beat them anway (mwahahahahaa!), a lot of the non-specialists bag a lot of long-rangers. Why would you say lrs is worse away from home, Duff? Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-05-18 22:00:47 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-18 22:05:25 Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster No the best way is to tighten the wings In terms of ranking, you possible can't argue. But in match situations, if you have a goalie with Aerial ability AND heading in Defence, then Normal I'm sure can be the better option, as your covered pretty well in the aerial battles aready, and protecting yourself from the other attacks is then important. In fact, I know managers who try to fill their defence with heading players and always tighten the centre, and in principle it sounds like a really good idea. I'm not convinced, despite his greatness that RPS78 is spot on with his view of always defending the way the opponent plays, for the simple reason I believe he in part undervalues sq's. In ranking terms maybe, but in pratical terms I'm not sure. I also feel that Wing Plays only increases the attacks that way slightly. Although breaks might be less prevelent when you use this, they still occur quite frequently. And crucially, I'm not convinced, once a breakaway chance has been created that a team will be less likely to score because they went wing plays. I feel it's all about creating chances, not chances taken. One interesting thing I've noticed in this league. I've played 19 matches, 14 times I've gone wing plays. 0 times have I had the wings tightened. It's almost too easy to play it now Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-05-19 07:41:21 Citera Svara

Nah i still stick by my own way, i'm not an SQ or a this formation beats this formation man. Muska it's just smething a few managers do (pressure) i forget who told me, you may find something in xpert forum search. LRS not working aswell away, is just from my own experience.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-05-20 10:59:59 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-20 11:01:55 Citera Svara I need opinions about who to Tightly Mark in the next game for the Mooses. http://www.xperteleven.com/lastLineUp.aspx?TeamID=102131&dh=1 - Here's the opponent's last line-up! Alekseij Parashuk has been his playmaker in the last 3 games, but even though his opponent's have tightly mark him, he still managed to get something out of the game. Do you think I should go for someone else? Thanks Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-05-20 12:10:52 Citera Svara Well if he's getting stuff out the game anyway, maybe that's freeing up the better player who got the highest rating anyway.. I never know about this - some people say always mark the playmaker no matter what but that seems limiting. On the other hand, I have a very good striker for Zildjian who people always mark (instead of my playmaker) and it doesn't help them any - he's still been in the xpert11 for 15 out of 15 rounds! Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-05-20 12:20:50 Citera

Svara I've always went for tightly marking a playmaker, always. But I remember someone mentioning something that if your opponent plays with more Midfields than you and you tightly mark his playmaker, there is no point as he'll still have 4 other Midfields, but I'm not sure... Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-05-20 19:55:05 Citera Svara Normally i'd go for the playmaker. But looking at his mids they are all great scorers & providers, so that would make me cautious of marking one in a 5 man midfield. I think you are going to go 3-5-2 ye? with him 4-5-1 .. so i'd mark Mavrkij Igonin , along wih pressure and tighten wings to try thwart his mids.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-05-26 18:23:32 Citera Svara In my Xpert League forum (which happens to be the Xpert League) there is a thread about the introduction of the random draw of in the Cup. Lionpaw then makes a comment in Swedish and is answered by Iwe which I don't understand, but which luckily gets translated and put in one of Gunners threads http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3093339&forumid=26&read=1 "What does that have to do with an eventual help-factor? That weve decided to design the game so the difference between a team with 10 skill-bars and 5 skill-bars isnt very big is something completely different and doesnt have to do with the Cup. Its a general rule of the game. A team with 10 skill bars isnt twice as good as a team with 5 skill bars which one could easily think. This is because weve given each player has a base-strength which is a hidden trait. This is something that can explain why there are several unexpected results in the games. But to state that theres a helpfactor that helps the weak teams beat the strong teams is just absurd." This explains a lot as far as lesser teams getting better than expected results. I am not a 'Swedish conspiracy' type of manager but it does amaze me how sometimes this sort of thing can get talked about on the forums in a Swedish league.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Denninde [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-12-28 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:06:19 Citera Svara Ok, guys. I am no tactic genius, but I have read thru this thread. The first thing that hit me when i read this is, why 3-5-2 Defensive? I maybe has misunderstood something, but too me it sounds weird to ALLWAYS play 3-5-2 Defensive. Explanation please? Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Denninde Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:13:23 Citera Svara It's a great tactic... attacking formation played Defensively. It's kind of like an alternative 4-4-2 Normal, but I hate that because it's so boring (although I did play just that with my xpert team today and it worked well). Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Denninde Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:14:05 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-26 21:14:26 Citera Svara . Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Holidays

Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:16:07 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-26 21:16:20 Citera Svara Holidays's success with 3-5-2 defensive, across various teams, is unbelievable, so I was persuaded to try it on two occaisons - and both times I lost! Must be some golden touch he has.. Generally, defensive has never worked for me in any scenario. Flytta till verst p sidan Denninde [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-12-28 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:19:05 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Holidays It's a great tactic... attacking formation played Defensively. It's kind of like an alternative 4-4-2 Normal, but I hate that because it's so boring (although I did play just that with my xpert team today and it worked well). But at home? Is it really working at home? Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: Denninde Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:20:56 Citera Svara 3-5-2 defensive sucks. Most overrated tactic in X11, why? Because you can't always have results with it! Good for the ranking but bad for results. A great manager is the one who knows how to combine ranking and results. And playing always 3-5-2 defensive is not the way. I don't know why the server(Iwe) like this 3-5-2 tactic, it really sucks. Let's not forget, Rps78 was ranked number 1 so much time because of playing 90%3-5-2. Skakiz reached number 1 only playing 3-5-2. And other many examples. So my question is WHY 3-5-2 has so much impact on the ranking system?

Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Blu3red

Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:29:22 Citera Svara Wow I didn't realise that.. He seriously reached number 1 only with 3-5-2?! It was always my favourite formation, now I know why! Flytta till verst p sidan Denninde [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-12-28 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:30:59 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Blu3red Let's not forget, Rps78 was ranked number 1 so much time because of playing 90%3-5-2. Skakiz reached number 1 only playing 3-5-2. And other many examples. Was they using Defensive always or not? Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Denninde Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:33:19 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Denninde Was they using Defensive always or not? I doubt it. He used to like 3-5-2 Cautious. The defensive thing I kind of nicked from Iwe himself. Flytta till verst p sidan 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ...

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... Frfattare Meddelande Denninde [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-12-28 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:36:06 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Holidays I doubt it. He used to like 3-5-2 Cautious. The defensive thing I kind of nicked from Iwe himself. So Cautionous both home and away?

Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Denninde Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:42:42 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-26 21:50:01 Citera Svara I can't remember. I think he liked offensive at home, but it depends on the situation. I massively disagree with Blu on just about everything regarding 3-5-2 Defensive, it's a tactic that does yield results (this team is basically a 3-5-2 Defensive team bar the last couple where I experimented. A pretty good example). But there are 3 factors to the a match. Winning (obviously), creating most chances and holding the most possession. 3-52 Defensive is a great tactic for doing the last 2, which helps the winning part. This is why the system loves you playing it. What I like about 3-5-2 Defensive is it's also very consistent. I know in general I can take home games 1 or 2-0, infact I expect to achieve this with teams of equal strength. This is something else I disagree on. I think it's actually a better home tactic because the away team in normally more attacking that you which isn't good in general. Blu thinks it's a better away tactic. Which is right? None of us probably LOL, but there you go. Bear in mind though, he thinks it sucks but uses it almost as much as I do . Work that out Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:47:55 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-26 21:49:49 Citera Svara I've been playing 3-5-2 Cautious/defensive more but still dont have that good of results so i try experiment with it, I mainly stick to 4-4-2 in my xpert league(as i play it 75% most the time now) but am going start playing 3-5-2 more as i think my team is set up for it. The Formation i have most trouble with is 4-3-3 i never have good results with that So never try play it.. Flytta till verst p sidan Denninde [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-12-28 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:54:23 Citera Svara 3-5-2 << Formation >> 4-5-1 Defensive << Playing style >> Very offensive Wing plays << Offence >> Through plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> No

Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> No None << Playmaker >> Don MacAvery Don MacAvery << Tightly marked >> None Frank Lampard << Captain >> Jamie OCallaghan Possession: 49 - 51 (51-49) Chances: 9 - 3 (7-2) Me left. Just for example, was I making any mistake? The manager I was playing against was inactive from the league. Could I have done it any different? 3 - 2 was the final score btw. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2008-05-26 21:56:57 Citera Svara I am currently under the impression that 3-5-2 is half of the equation. You only get 40% from the tactics you set up. The other 60% is from the team you field. If your team is principally a 3-5-2 team (say 5 defenders, 7 midfielder and 3 forwards) then picking your best players in a 3-5-2 will normally get you the maximum result (managerial points wise) I am currently testing this with a friend who has agreed to be a guinea pig. He was ranked very (51,000) low but we managed to get his ranking up to 17 000 in 5 games. I think Blu is right when he says that a great manager is one who combines winning with ranking, because it is so hard. I have said this before and I will say it again, I believe the morale feature will effect managers who play for ranking. If your team is not reaching its set goal then morale will suffer. If players who think they should be playing and are not then morale will suffer. With a set target for the team I think that winning will have more emphasis. But we will just have to wait and see what happens. I agree with blu that 3-5-2 defensive is a great away formation but I find it easy to counter if I know its coming. I also agree with holidays that 3-5-2 defensive works well at home and is very good for the ranking. But I do prefer going offensive with it at home if I have excellent defenders and a keeper. Since i tend to build my teams from the back, out, this suits me.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Denninde Skrivet: 2008-05-26 22:01:45

Uppdaterat: 2008-05-26 22:03:08 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Denninde 3-5-2 << Formation >> 4-5-1 Defensive << Playing style >> Very offensive Wing plays << Offence >> Through plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> No None << Playmaker >> Don MacAvery Don MacAvery << Tightly marked >> None Frank Lampard << Captain >> Jamie OCallaghan Possession: 49 - 51 (51-49) Chances: 9 - 3 (7-2) Me left. Just for example, was I making any mistake? The manager I was playing against was inactive from the league. Could I have done it any different? 3 - 2 was the final score btw. You created 9 chances to 3. Thats the battle won. If you lose after that, then I would say formation isn't the reason for that happening. You did well. In this situation you nullified his V Offensive threat by being Defensive, he was too attacking and you created a hatful of chances. Flytta till verst p sidan Denninde [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-12-28 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-05-26 22:10:37 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Holidays You created 9 chances to 3. Thats the battle won. If you lose after that, then I would say formation isn't the reason for that happening. You did well. In this situation you nullified his V Offensive threat by being Defensive, he was too attacking and you created a hatful of chances. Ok, but if my opponent has played Cautions or Defensive, should I also play Defensive then? I have slightly less skilled team then my opponent. Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08

Svar till: Denninde Skrivet: 2008-05-26 22:37:21 Citera Svara I would never play defensive at home against a manager who plays offensive away from home. Rps78 himself said that at home he always plays normal or offensive, and that's the right thing to do from my opinion too. And for Holidays: 1) I play/played 3-5-2 defensive at my xpert team in the matches without any chance of winning.. because somehow 3-5-2 defensive is a tactic for ranking.. and I like to keep my ranking. But when I have chances to win, like I've had this season.. I will always play 3-5-2 offensive at home.. 2) 3-5-2 defensive at home is not a great tactic! But people don't know how to counter it. And strange.. especially the good managers don't know how to counter it and that's because no one thinks(from the good managers) that playing offensive/normal away from home is the best solution for beating 3-5-2 defensive, and that's why you lose or draw more often to poor managers when you guess them perfectly.. and you win against great managers without such a good tactic. Am I partially right? Think about it. Are you always satisfied with your results when you play 3-5-2 defensive? Or when you lose or draw, you are still feeling good because you know that you still made a good tactic? I used to think like that, but in the last 6 months I've changed my way of thinking the problem and the game, even if in my opinion (and not only) I make an excellent tactic.. I always try to find why I didn't won the match. How many times did you lose with excellent tactics? In my case.. many times. I will always prefer to have results instead of making perfect tactics . The tactics in X11 are grouped in two major categories: -tactics for rankings -tactics for results And how was I saying.. the manager who discover tactics that are great for results too and for ranking is a good manager. Personally I've discovered many of them.. but I am not satisfied with all of them. 3) I played 3-5-2 defensive AT HOME way ahead of you, and I have almost two years of experiments more than you. Not saying that you have to believe me.. but 3-5-2 defensive at home is not a great tactic. I have at least 10 other favourite formations for playing at home. Somebody stop me.. Too bad that I have to write in English and don't always find the perfect words. Maybe I will write a X11 Book. In Romanian of course

Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-05-26 23:08:45 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Blu3red The tactics in X11 are grouped in two major categories: -tactics for rankings -tactics for results And how was I saying.. the manager who discover tactics that are great for results too and for ranking is a good manager. Personally I've discovered many of them.. but I am not satisfied with all of them. I could not agree more. Since I am now out of the cup I am going to have to wait until next season before my ranking will peak. Then i am going to go for a really good team and forget about ranking.

I have to say its more fun just playing for results.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-05-27 00:06:21 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Holidays In this situation you nullified his V Offensive threat by being Defensive, he was too attacking and you created a hatful of chances. In this type of situation, playing Normal is best to get the result. that's my opinion. (edit) later...

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-05-28 04:48:02 Uppdaterat: 2008-05-28 04:49:12 Citera Svara Need some help. Cup game in Dream League, Guy is most likely going play 3-4-3. I've decided go 4-4-2 against him, But having trouble deciding what to do about the ref. He's (S 9, H 5) what do you suggest? Also its on neutral grounds, what would you do play offensive or Normal against him? Mind you he is a six skill team but he has had some games where his offense has ratings of 10+ but defense and midfield were just average at best.

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Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2008-05-28 10:54:29 Citera Svara I think play offsides, and I think go offensive unless he's stronger than you, which is he isn't, and which should catch out his lack of men at the back. But I know nothing! I always get knocked out of the Cup very early... Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-06-02 16:23:20 Uppdaterat: 2008-06-02 16:32:57 Citera Svara With my Mooses team, I've got a semi-final to play next, I would just like to get opinions on what Keeper to play: Steven Prager 31 years old Legend at the Club 12 Skill 9 Form Jon Higgs 25 years old Normal Heart 8 Skill 18 Form I always get confused when it comes to picking between 2 players... Flytta till verst p sidan Denninde [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-12-28 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-06-02 16:27:15 Citera Svara I think Steven Prager, 3 "formdots" are equal 1 visible dot, if I understand everything right? So with one dot marginal, Steven Prager Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Denninde Skrivet: 2008-06-02 21:21:27 Citera Svara

Yeah I agree (not that I am in a position to give you any advice after today's game!) - often big, high-rated players put in high-rated performances even if they are in poor form, I find. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-06-02 21:42:07 Citera Svara I would play Jon as long as his last set of team work values with the defenders he is playing with are 18 or better.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-06-03 12:14:00 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer Yeah I agree (not that I am in a position to give you any advice after today's game!) - often big, high-rated players put in high-rated performances even if they are in poor form, I find. Yes I know high rated players give out higher ratings BUT: I'd also like to know this, which player performs better in a game where: Player A, is 12 Skilled ... Played 11 Skill bars which is bad. or Player B, is 8 Skilled ... Played 10 Skill bars which is good. This is a general question, is it on the ratings (more rating, better performance) or on the difference between the player's skill and his rating? This is a good question me thinks. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-07-15 12:05:04 Citera Svara

bump.. Don't follow you? if it's what i think your asking then surely the one playing 2 bars above is giving you a better peformance than the one having a not so good game playing below skill even if it's a bar higher than player (b).

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-07-24 19:07:03 Citera Svara Figured i'd get this back and going. Is there a point to playing Cautious? Would it just be better to play Normal or Defensive in away games? How do you decide what style to play away, as i have most trouble deciding on this tactic. Flytta till verst p sidan YGA [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [YGA] Blev medlem: 2007-01-10 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2008-07-24 19:48:09 Citera Svara Here's what i play away (formation: tactics): 4-4-2: Normal or defensive 4-5-1: cautious or defensive 4-3-3: defensive or v.defensive 5-4-1: Normal 5-3-2, 5-2-3: Cautious or defensive 3-4-3: v.defensive 3-5-2: cautious or defensive 4-2-4: never played it before i never play offensive in away matches. imho, what matters when playing away is playing normal or below (or maybe cautious or below)

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Catious imo used to be great against offensive away, then around 5-7 month ago i found it was getting less and less effective, i now use defensive mostly away, i swear the effective of cautious has been tweaked. (personal opinion)

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Haywood [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-06 Svar till: YGA Skrivet: 2008-07-24 22:08:37 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: YGA Here's what i play away (formation: tactics): 4-4-2: Normal or defensive 4-5-1: cautious or defensive 4-3-3: defensive or v.defensive 5-4-1: Normal 5-3-2, 5-2-3: Cautious or defensive 3-4-3: v.defensive 3-5-2: cautious or defensive 4-2-4: never played it before i never play offensive in away matches. imho, what matters when playing away is playing normal or below (or maybe cautious or below) agree mostly, obviously theres other thing to bare in mind such as team strength but i would never play defensive on a 53-2, with 5 men at the back you would get away with normal or cautious in my eyes. i'd play normal Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: YGA Skrivet: 2008-07-24 22:28:00 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: YGA Here's what i play away (formation: tactics): 4-4-2: Normal or defensive 4-5-1: cautious or defensive 4-3-3: defensive or v.defensive 5-4-1: Normal 5-3-2, 5-2-3: Cautious or defensive 3-4-3: v.defensive 3-5-2: cautious or defensive 4-2-4: never played it before

5-4-1 --- Normal 5-3-2 --- Normal 4-5-1 --- Normal 5-2-3 --- Normal 4-4-2 --- Normal/Cautious 4-2-4 --- Cautious (though I never play 4-2-4 period) 3-5-2 --- Defensive 4-3-3 --- Defensive (though I never play 4-3-3 away) 3-4-3 --- Very Defensive Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-07-24 22:36:56 Citera Svara What way are you guys working that out?? away games on similar skill/age??

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Garybrewje [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-04-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-07-24 22:48:13 Citera Svara Going from something like that is silly you should take each game as it comes and depending on how in form you are and how strong you are to them are the more adventurous you should be im ranked 6736 i should know Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Garybrewje Skrivet: 2008-07-25 09:48:21 Uppdaterat: 2008-07-25 09:49:08 Citera Svara Yeah I'm with low-rank - I'd never have a system that concrete.. 5-3-2 cautious I've found extremely effective, as my team (I'm talking xpert here) is usually weaker than my opponents. I upgraded to Normal when the other guy went VO, but otherwise I've got a lot of good/results (and ranking points) by doing

that. Generally I find cautious is fine, but that's because I almost never use Defensive - I have a skewed view of it though, as I've used it in games I'm doomed to lose for one reason or another, so I associate it with losing! I'm using it today as it happens, for the first time in about 6 months - I'll let you know what happens.. edit: in all the above I'm talking about away games - but since I won Dream League Cup MOTR using 3-5-2 cautious at a neutral venue I've started using it in Cup games too, which has also proved very effective. Flytta till verst p sidan Roberto11x [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Roberto11x] Blev medlem: 2007-04-28 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-07-27 21:02:20 Citera Svara I play 5-3-2 regularly with two of my teams and unless I'm playing for a draw I'll always go normal away. Its just too hard to create chances with defensive/cautious unless the mdifelders are strong. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Roberto11x Skrivet: 2008-08-01 12:46:11 Citera Svara Just having a read through this quality and informative thread. One things baffles me, how any can have a set formation and style baffles me. I always set every game with regards to my opponant, surely it comes down to the quality in the different areas of the opposition's team to decide your strategies. Unless of course you're looking at ranking first and opposition later.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Garybrewje Skrivet: 2008-08-01 13:15:08 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Garybrewje Going from something like that is silly

you should take each game as it comes and depending on how in form you are and how strong you are to them are the more adventurous you should be

Ya, he agrees and so do I! Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-08-02 00:20:19 Citera Svara Sorry to break-up the moment ppl. What are the thoughts on the urban myth formation that is >>>> 4-2-4? Do you use it? how often? what style? What results? Are a few.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-08-02 00:42:17 Uppdaterat: 2008-08-02 00:46:24 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Saint_Ash Just having a read through this quality and informative thread. One things baffles me, how any can have a set formation and style baffles me. I always set every game with regards to my opponant, surely it comes down to the quality in the different areas of the opposition's team to decide your strategies. Unless of course you're looking at ranking first and opposition later. Well, in most cases, I play to my above system, but in a way that tries to foil an opponent just as you say. There is a difference for instance to playing 5-3-2 Normal rather than 3-5-2 Cautious. The key to understanding this is that my formation isn't affected by anything predetermined. First and foremost, pick the best players and a formation that should work at beating an opponent. (The exception is this team, Anfield play a strict 35-2 - thought that is actually for team building % issues only). What is mostly pre-determined is once I've chosen a formation... how I play that. It's quite a key difference. I don't choose

to play 5-3-2 because it fits my code... but once I've chosen to play 5-3-2 for sensible reasons, then I will play it Offensive/Very Offensive at home and Normal away. Some call it narrow minded, but I play what I think works. People talk about ranking, but it's not like Careful, where playing it might win ranking points, but not necessarily matches. It's a choice that if helps get ranking points, it helps you win games. If 5-3-2 Offensive is good for ranking, it's good for results and importantly, vice versa. Flytta till verst p sidan YGA [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [YGA] Blev medlem: 2007-01-10 Svar till: YGA Skrivet: 2008-08-02 01:20:01 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: YGA 4-4-2: Normal or defensive 4-5-1: cautious or defensive 4-3-3: defensive or v.defensive 5-4-1: Normal 5-3-2, 5-2-3: Cautious or defensive 3-4-3: v.defensive 3-5-2: cautious or defensive 4-2-4: never played it before Let me clear something here; this "formation and tactics that go with it thing" is just an example of the good tactics played away. When i wrote this i didn't mean that i always play these tactics with the formation, but they are, from my point of view, the best i see. Every match has its own taste and sometimes i follow what i quoted above and sometimes i dont.

Once a madridista>>> <<< Always a madridista Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-08-02 01:25:15 Uppdaterat: 2008-08-13 23:32:22 Citera Svara You can't set 5-3-2 or anything regards to formation..unless the players can suit to this formation, it's like when you had the final lge team, you put too much emphasis on formations rather than the strength of the sqaud, and at home you would play defebsive/cts/normal rather than the risk + the 4-4-2 what was to that teams strength. I agree you gotta narrow all tactics down(best as) to maximise the result, but if you look in forum it's still the same story..<random> I reckon the random factor is small. [Oh FFS drunk post]

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-08-02 01:28:47 Citera Svara OMFG look what i just done ..it turned out undelined..you see that..well do you../ Ye wasn't me.. i'll take the credit..looks like a fucking book page, from a simpleton..(prob can't even spell that one) Eat my nipple.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-08-02 01:53:21 Citera Svara You're so fucked!

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Indeedy..so prob delete when i wake up (yup typed this in my sleeeeep)

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-08-02 09:31:23 Uppdaterat: 2008-08-02 09:32:19 Citera Svara This Careful thing. From my experience, the time your most rewarded is when you use it in a game and win the match. So if I use Careful and win, I go Normal and win, I would get more ranking points for the former. My theory is if you use Careful 5 times, and it backfires twice, on the once you won't be rewarded much. But the 4 times it did work would equate to more than the 5 without. Hence why Careful is best for ranking, even when it's not. But like most tactics, whats best depends on the situation, and the better you get at the game the better you can judge the situation. One thing is clear though... in here I used to play Careful every game. I was top ranked in the league all that time (except season 1). Last season, I changed to playing Normal every match, won the league and won a lot more matches. Ranking wise, I'm nowhere now. It's no coincidence I'm sure. It's not so much the matches you don't win, it's the ones you do. Imagine you get 6,6,6,6,6 for winning 5 games with Normal (depending on other tactics of course). You play Careful and only win 3 games, losing 2. 12,12,12,3,3 are the scores. That is pretty much how I think it works. Not the numbers, but the principle. The ref values affect a lot too. No one should play Careful with a 2,1 for instance. Duffs, I think you got what I was getting at yes. I choose a style, based on a formation. But formation is based upon whats best in the circumstances. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-08-02 15:14:24 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Holidays ... in here I used to play Careful every game. I was top ranked in the league all that time (except season 1). Last season, I changed to playing Normal every match, won the league and won a lot more matches. Ranking wise, I'm nowhere now. Where does that put the 21 managers ranked below you, then..? Mongolia, probably. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303]

Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2008-08-03 12:40:56 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Holidays One thing is clear though... in here I used to play Careful every game. I was top ranked in the league all that time (except season 1). Last season, I changed to playing Normal every match, won the league and won a lot more matches. Ranking wise, I'm nowhere now. It's no coincidence I'm sure.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-08-13 23:32:47 Citera Svara Any opinions on this.? Had a game tonight that had me think over this situation again. Marking a Player I face teams sinilar to this on a daily basis throughout my lges, but often it's my last added tactic through unable to make my mind up. When you know or at least have a good report base on the team & know they won't use a playmaker.. Do you mark anyone?? before you say > yes the skilled player, i'm on about balanced teams, more so the 3 in the middle teams that use none.. do you still opt to mark a player, knowing they ain't going to PM & boosting those around him/her - same as up front manmarking.... I had this again tonight in WWV it's end of season so have a lot of tactic reports on the team it's rare for him to use a PM and noticed most teams marked the same player in the middle but he seemed the one gaining from that each time, same in SS with a team in my division & Xpert lge with 2 teams last season - never use PM but still very productive. Tonight i marked his opposite PM & he ended up choosing him as PM so got lucky, so learned nothing as i hoped he'd use none as he has done 80% in last 6 games. Whats your take on marking? any thoughts? Some go for obvious like intelligent MF/skilled striker/most productive player/formations...etc..

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Citera Svara I have literally exactly your situation with my Zildjian side on Saturday! Im playing a team who are so strong theyre always there or there abouts, but who dont have a manager who does a lot of actual managing, and never selects a playmaker (despite this theyve won loads on the bounce, taking points off other title challengers). He also has a very balanced midfield 5 of them all of similar skill. So Im not going to mark anyone. Hell be playing 4-5-1, and I know Ashd say (or I think he would dont want to put words into your mouth mate, not now I know what else has been in there - SLIGHTSEXUALINSINUATIONLOLLZ!) I should mark the forward, but hes not really that good, so Im just going to leave it I think. Definitely not going to mark any mids, as all the rest would just play better in all their extra space. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-08-14 16:39:36 Citera Svara MARK THE FORWARD MUSK!!! I always mark someone, don't know why, I just feel I'm missing a gap out in the tactical play if I don't, same as always trying to prepare for a formation when the oppo changes all the time, I will look at the team and previous formation and go with my best judgement instead of copping out and picking none. If I know they will play one up front and I know who that striker is I will mark him! End of dicussion there where that is concerned, rightly or wrongly I know he's been selected to play up front to score and if he's stifled then that won't happen. I would also then Pressure, hoping to close down the midfield as they're now the only option to score. I would also only play with a formation like 3-5-2 then. If not one up front then and all the midfielders seem the same I would see who provided the most assists or goals and probably mark them. I amnot adverse to marking defenders tho. Iwe might have said to Duff that the system aint clever enough to cope with marking goalies but who ever is marked with play considerable less skilled than his counterparts. So if I know that a team will play 3-5-2 and has an awesom defender and the rest of the team is similar I might mark the defender, especially if I was going 3 up front! Very rarely have I done it though and I haven't done it in a big game scenario!

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If the forward is as good as the mids, I'd mark him. If not, I'd have absolutely no qualms about not marking.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-08-14 16:51:24 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Saint_Ash MARK THE FORWARD MUSK!!! Last time I took your advice on that it was against Motis Club, who beat me and went on to win the Dream League Cup! Now I'm not saying that was your fault entirely of course, but... (But it was indeed your fault entirely!) Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-08-14 16:53:02 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer Last time I took your advice on that it was against Motis Club, who beat me and went on to win the Dream League Cup! Now I'm not saying that was your fault entirely of course, but... (But it was indeed your fault entirely!) You didn't take all my advice tho! I said DON'T LOSE! See

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[Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-08-14 16:53:36 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn If the forward is as good as the mids, I'd mark him. If not, I'd have absolutely no qualms about not marking. You're happy about not marking at all then rich?

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If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-08-14 17:03:14 Citera Svara I suppose that way your players and theirs are on an even field and no one is far superior due to man marking going on. I still feel uncomfortable not marking though! Probably irrational as I wouldn't worry too much in real life if the team was all the same.

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Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-08-14 17:51:51 Citera Svara It tends to be on rare occasions that I choose not to mark; normally at least one player in a line-up is a suitable target.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-08-14 17:54:28 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn It tends to be on rare occasions that I choose not to mark; normally at least one player in a line-up is a suitable target. Thats probably it! I always tend to find a suitable target!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-08-28 17:57:22 Citera Svara 4-2-4 Of all the formations i find this one the most difficult to be confident about, i've used as much as i can in last 6 month or so trying to find a sensible way of getting something out of it. Whats your take on it.? had any luck with it.like it, think it's piss?.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-08-28 19:44:46 Citera Svara Definitely the worst among equals. I think basically it only has extremely specialist circumstances in which it might work - perhaps when playing 4-3-3 and they're midfield is totally wank? It's rubbish, anyway... I did once play it in here for a laugh, and just lost. Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-09-04 15:36:34 Citera Svara 4-3-3 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Normal Wing plays << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Tighten the wings No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Thomas Voeckler << Playmaker >> Malcolm Starkie None << Tightly marked >> Richard Paquette Gert Steegmans << Captain >> Lawrence Haddington I'm the away team. What did i do to deserve a loss via a 95th minute goal Go on, debate about it Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29

Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2008-09-04 15:53:01 Citera Svara Did your team deserve a point based on chances? I thought cautious (or maybe defensive) away against a stronger, older team would be the way forward.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2008-09-04 15:56:14 Citera Svara Because your midfielders are shit

Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:01:25 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn Did your team deserve a point based on chances? Just realised that's the reason. 7 chances to 2 Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:02:05 Citera Svara

Ursprungligen postat av: Blu3red Because your midfielders are shit Lolz! Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:03:10 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Blu3red Because your midfielders are shit But i'm still in the top two after 4 games Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:04:28 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer Lolz! Keep your gob shut Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:11:26 Citera Svara

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Ursprungligen postat av: NortonAntivirus Just realised that's the reason. 7 chances to 2 Well, if one of the bucketloads of other chances had gone in instead of the one in the 95th minute, you probably wouldn't be bitching about it. In fact, you'd have probably built a bridge and got over it, because your team got dicked.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:18:38 Uppdaterat: 2008-09-04 16:19:49 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn Well, if one of the bucketloads of other chances had gone in instead of the one in the 95th minute, you probably wouldn't be bitching about it. In fact, you'd have probably built a bridge and got over it, because your team got dicked.

I would, i would. My complaint/post was mainly regarding tactic vs tactic and not when the goal was scored. 2-1 is getting dicked then Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:19:38 Uppdaterat: 2008-09-04 16:21:02 Citera Svara But that's not what your initial question suggests. Edit: If I had 7 shots to 2, I'd expect to win more than 2-1, and I'd expect it to be more than 2-1 a decent percentage of the time.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan

NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:21:10 Uppdaterat: 2008-09-04 16:22:29 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn But that's not what your initial question suggests. Ooopsy, re-read it and i'll admit i phrased it in an incorrect and totally unacceptable manner. I hope you forgive me for it. You love editing posts don't you <bangs head on desk Wilfy type>

Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:21:49 Citera Svara Personally I think you are an utter shitbag mate. Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:23:04 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer Personally I think you are an utter shitbag mate. I applaud your honesty. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:41:30 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: NortonAntivirus

I applaud your honesty. I abhor your honesty. Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-09-04 16:55:46 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer I abhor your honesty. And i'm meant to care? Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2008-09-04 17:19:29 Citera Svara NO!

Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-09-05 10:41:54 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer NO!

Thought so. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: NortonAntivirus

Skrivet: 2008-10-27 14:18:29 Citera Svara Putting this in here as it could be a handy bit of info! Tried to calculate my manager points for yesterdays game with the killers and at first I thought I must've calculated wrong as I won away, 6 chances to 0, marked their playmaker and prepared, also played 3-5-2 for the 3rd time which wasn't prepared and squad over 26. I got motr so thought would stack the points up. Worked out I got 11. I also did bedazzledazs, he drew 0-0 away and had 1 chances to their 7, he got 13 points. Now, The team I played hasn't logged in since the 07/10 and his team was a mess, goalies in midfield and all that. I think the point system is right and I think it might actually remove manager points if you play a fucked up team, as you don't have to be a brilliant manager to beat them, and as nothing has changed for them I could counter easily. This would make the manager point system pretty sophisticated but would make sence, why should I rack up manager points against a team not being managed?

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-10-28 12:22:49 Citera Svara I don't understand the question! What was it Holidays said about marking people? That should be in here. Mark the bit where you are strongest, eg you play 4-3-3 you mark their keeper, you play 4-5-1 you mark their midfield or whatever? Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-10-28 12:45:53 Citera Svara I was just writing a general statement really that you don't get anywhere near as much manager points beating a team that hasn't been managed well or is just shit. I think it has a massive influence on manager points beating decent teams. My tactics were pretty much spot on as I knew exactly what I was coming up against but didn't get many manager points. Yeah, holidays was saying that you mark the opposite of where you're heavy, if 5 defenders mark a striker, if 3 strikers mark a defender or the keeper. Interesting stuff. Makes sense, one player will be focusing on marking and you have plenty of back up in that area.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-10-28 12:55:00 Citera Svara Hmm, is the game sophisticated enough to allocate duties to different players though?! Anyway, I'm playing 4-3-3 with Zildjian next match so I'll mark their keeper and see what happens.. Stupid keeper-marking seducing me into trying it. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-10-28 13:20:39 Citera Svara I thought it'd be too sophisticated but obviously not. Would make sense though as shit leagues would produce awesome managers. Mark that keeper out the game! you could do a defender aswell though.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-10-28 13:42:58 Citera Svara Yeah but his keeper is pretty good, and played badly last game - so he's more of a key man AND might be off-form, in which case Roger Sterland sticking his cock in his face the whole game might put him off even further - w00t! Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem:

2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-10-30 20:33:50 Citera Svara I reckon the diff between playing against good set of tactics over a mangerless one would be around 0.5 Pts and no more than 1 Pt.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-10-30 23:57:45 Citera Svara I think the below game shows that it can work quite well http://www.xperteleven.com/cupGameDetails.aspx?GameID=889742&dh=1 marked the keeper and went with his only 3 up front. worked a treat. if you have any suggestions for the return leg.............

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-10-31 07:19:13 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer I don't understand the question! What was it Holidays said about marking people? That should be in here. Mark the bit where you are strongest, eg you play 4-3-3 you mark their keeper, you play 4-5-1 you mark their midfield or whatever? So if you play 4-4-2 does that refer to their best player??? or would it be midfielder......Man this is DEEEEEEEEEP

Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-02 11:08:15 Citera Svara I have a question concerning the 3-5-2 formation.. I'm going for a 3-5-2 in my next game with the Mooses and I got 3 good defenders at the back. It's at home, and I was thinking of going Offensive. Is it right to go Offensive with 3 at the back. I have never played this way before (3-5-2 offensive) for some reason, so I don't know if it would be smart or fine. All I need is to know if it's right or wrong? Flytta till verst p sidan 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ...

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... Frfattare Meddelande PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-11-02 11:22:47 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Karisma-1st I have a question concerning the 3-5-2 formation.. I'm going for a 3-5-2 in my next game with the Mooses and I got 3 good defenders at the back. It's at home, and I was thinking of going Offensive. Is it right to go Offensive with 3 at the back. I have never played this way before (3-5-2 offensive) for some reason, so I don't know if it would be smart or fine. All I need is to know if it's right or wrong? No problem, I do it all the time. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2008-11-02 13:03:05 Citera Svara Yeah me too - I am a one trick pony and that is my trick. The only variant is if I'm playing pressure I use Normal, but we all know on here that I don't undertsand pressure, or how and when to use it...! Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2008-11-02 20:31:27 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: PrinceCharming77

No problem, I do it all the time. Cool, thanks. Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer Yeah me too - I am a one trick pony and that is my trick. The only variant is if I'm playing pressure I use Normal, but we all know on here that I don't undertsand pressure, or how and when to use it...! Haha, I don't like to mess with pressure either so let's go with Offensive. Thanks Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-02 20:58:20 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Saint_Ash Putting this in here as it could be a handy bit of info! Tried to calculate my manager points for yesterdays game with the killers and at first I thought I must've calculated wrong as I won away, 6 chances to 0, marked their playmaker and prepared, also played 3-5-2 for the 3rd time which wasn't prepared and squad over 26. I got motr so thought would stack the points up. Worked out I got 11. I also did bedazzledazs, he drew 0-0 away and had 1 chances to their 7, he got 13 points. Now, The team I played hasn't logged in since the 07/10 and his team was a mess, goalies in midfield and all that. I think the point system is right and I think it might actually remove manager points if you play a fucked up team, as you don't have to be a brilliant manager to beat them, and as nothing has changed for them I could counter easily. This would make the manager point system pretty sophisticated but would make sence, why should I rack up manager points against a team not being managed? So how does one go about calculating their managerial points?

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-02 22:26:03 Citera Svara Does anybody here know have many skillbars a player has as base skill? Ive been thinking about this for some time because its quite important when it comes to decide who to pick to do freekicks and penaltys.

I know that the guys in Expert Tactics have put some thought into this but I dont know if they have come to some kind of conclusion. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-11-03 11:15:59 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Basilbrush303 So how does one go about calculating their managerial points? Well it's far from perfect and no doubt it can be ripped to shreds but I think it's about as close as you can get to working it out... It can only work upto about top 80, go any higher than that it's difficult for a couple of reasons. Anyway, you see managers in their groups of rankings for example there could be 4 mangers ranked 100, then 5 ranked 104 then 5 ranked 109 and so on. These managers are on the same points so the next grouping must be 1 point different other wise it will be 100, 101, 102. So what you do it make a note of your rank the day of your game and all the other managers that are ranked the same as you (your group). The next day after you've played your game you count from your new rank the number of groupings till you see the managers that were in your group the day before. The number of groupings you count equals the number of points. Some of the managers that were in the same grouping as the day before might not be there now due to playing a game on the same day or a game coming off their cycle, this is why it gets harder as your rank gets higher. Also s you get higher some managers are singular and not in a group so you can't tell if there's one point seperating them or more. So a fairly simple process really as long as you're in the groupings stage. But as I've said it might not be perfect but I think it's a decent indicator of roughly how many points you are getting for a match.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-03 11:59:51 Citera Svara I can't imagine ever doing this, but it seems like it's a pretty sound and well sorted method mate.. Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem:

2006-04-02 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-03 12:00:57 Citera Svara Its not the best method imo.

Please help African orphans by sponsoring me to climb Kilimanjaro at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/RobertTreweek Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-11-03 12:05:42 Citera Svara No one's interested in your 'o', mate. Now run along, I've-thought-of-something-better-boy.. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-11-03 12:27:27 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Doomonyouall Its not the best method imo. It's all open for discussion so lets hear your better method...

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Er, I think you'll find no one is interested in his 'o'.. Please read all my posts and agree with them before approaching your keyboard.

Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-03 12:41:09 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer Er, I think you'll find no one is interested in his 'o'.. Please read all my posts and agree with them before approaching your keyboard.

Need to approach my keyboard to read your posts to agree! I'll agree with you though!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-03 12:54:09 Citera Svara Well I would say but I feel bullied and unwanted

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Ursprungligen postat av: Doomonyouall Well I would say but I feel bullied and unwanted Come on snuckums, there there! You can't say you have a better way then not say what it is....

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-11-03 12:58:54 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Doomonyouall Well I would say but I feel bullied and unwanted Ah I've changed my mind in light of this development - give us your 'o' then.. Flytta till verst p sidan Sherwyn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Sherwyn] Blev medlem: 2007-05-16 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-07 08:51:40 Citera Svara Long Range Shots? Im a bit confused by its use. I know that its an ideal tactic when the opponent does not use pressure, but Im not sure how to use it effectively. I always thought that you have to win the midfield battle for LRS to be most effective, so on the recent times which I have used it, I played 4 or 5 in the midfield with pressure... Im now recently seeing a 3 man midfield play long range shots, sometimes even with long balls, and these teams dominate matches and win manager of the round, so thats basically blown my theory to shreds. So the question is... What formation is most suited to play long range shots and whether to pressure or not? My 3 best midfielders in my xpert team all have long shots so Im desparate for a bit of variation. Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29

Svar till: Sherwyn Skrivet: 2008-11-07 08:55:31 Citera Svara I thought formation was irrelevant and that it was just a "shoot on sight" policy.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-11-07 09:52:01 Citera Svara Personally I don't choose whether to use Long Range shots based on my own tactics, only on the opponent's. So their formation is relevant - if they use 3 in midfield it's a good option; five in midfield it is best avoided. Similarly, if they are using a formation (or are in a situation generally) where they are less likely to use pressure, then it's o good option there too. Personally I think it's the best attacking option - with the other two, you only need to do one thing to effectively counter it (tighten the relevant bit) where you need pressure and centre tightening for LRS (although as long as I've used pressure I don't mind too much if someone is playing LRS and I've not tightened the centre). Not only that, but it's the only tactic where defending against it dictates how you play - you are much less likely to use VO, or offensive, or Bruise, for example, cos of needing pressure. Flytta till verst p sidan Sherwyn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Sherwyn] Blev medlem: 2007-05-16 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-13 18:26:57 Citera Svara Heres my tactics the past week. Me on the right both times League game Ref H2, S9 3-4-3 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Normal << Playing style >> Cautious Through plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Careful No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No

No << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Nigel Murray << Playmaker >> Arjen Bruggink Eilif Brenne << Tightly marked >> Nigel Murray Eugene Hoffman << Captain >> Rolv Br Won 2-0 Cup Game Ref H3, S8 4-5-1 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Cautious << Playing style >> Normal Wing plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the wings No << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Careful No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Bernard Stewart << Playmaker >> Zurab Fomin None << Tightly marked >> Jesse Verzijlberg Jelle van Beuten << Captain >> Rolv Br Won 3-0 I thought the cup games tactics were not so hot coz they created 4 chances and had a piss poor team. Flytta till verst p sidan Sherwyn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Sherwyn] Blev medlem: 2007-05-16 Svar till: Sherwyn Skrivet: 2008-11-13 18:32:24 Citera Svara Heres the report for the return cup fixture today Me on the Left Ref S4,H4 4-4-2 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Offensive Wing plays << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the wings << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> Yes Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> No Arjen Bruggink << Playmaker >> Jesse Verzijlberg Jesse Verzijlberg << Tightly marked >> None Rolv Br << Captain >> Jelle van Beuten the opposition created no chances

Won 7-0 I thought this was the better of the two tactics in the Cup Tie...Maybe I can work som magic in the game on Sunday. You never know.... Flytta till verst p sidan 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ...

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Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Sherwyn Skrivet: 2008-11-13 20:14:54 Citera Svara Great stuff thanks. I rarely play wings with 442 and rarely play pressure away from home so it's good to understand potentially niether have a negative effect on rank. I'd have played normal rather than careful with both those refs too - I guess if you have enough ammo elsewhere to justify playing careful you can take the rank points...if that's what you're after.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Sherwyn Skrivet: 2008-11-14 01:07:36 Citera Svara Winning a match away from home using careful and creating more chances I think played a massive part in your winning the motw.

Please help African orphans by sponsoring me to climb Kilimanjaro at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/RobertTreweek Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-11-14 09:40:34 Citera Svara If you play an opponent who has one strong defender - 12 bars - and the next best being 5 bars, would there be any value in man-marking the 12 bar defender so my other attacking players have an easy time against his weak defenders?? http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=86136&Boost=0&dh=1 Not sure I'd do this as I have plenty in hand anyway, but seems the right time to test such a hypothesis.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more.

Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2008-11-14 09:43:39 Uppdaterat: 2008-11-14 09:44:31 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS Great stuff thanks. I rarely play wings with 442 Eh? Formation should make little or no difference to how effective an attacking tactic is. Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS and rarely play pressure away from home so it's good to understand potentially niether have a negative effect on rank. I don't understand why they would? I use pressure away from home all the time - because I'll be playing cautious, so the only negative effect of pressure (conceeding late goals) is taken away, adn the postive ones (boosting midfield, stopping LRS) remains. Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS I'd have played normal rather than careful with both those refs too - I guess if you have enough ammo elsewhere to justify playing careful you can take the rank points...if that's what you're after. You'd play normal with a 2,9 ref? You'd give away so many freekicks they'd probably score from one and any advantage from not going careful would be lost. I'd only use Normal with that ref if they had no decent FK takers. edit: I feel the need to add IN MY HUMBLE OPINION to offset the fact that I happened to disagree with every point you made! Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-14 10:21:46 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer ........good stuff...... I agree 100% with what you said and thats how I play also. Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Muskateer

Skrivet: 2008-11-14 10:29:55 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer

You'd play normal with a 2,9 ref? You'd give away so many freekicks they'd probably score from one and any advantage from not going careful would be lost. I'd only use Normal with that ref if they had no decent FK takers.

Doesn't just depend on their FKs for me, so usually I'd play normal as well.

Please help African orphans by sponsoring me to climb Kilimanjaro at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/RobertTreweek Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-14 10:34:32 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer edit: I feel the need to add IN MY HUMBLE OPINION to offset the fact that I happened to disagree with every point you made! Ouch!! 1. Yes I know formation and style are mutually exclusive...I just rarely use wings with 442 based on previous experiences...but I'll check the data and reconsider my view accordingly. 2. I play pressure away from home when I know my opponent will also play pressure, but if I have 5 in midfield and my midfield is stronger and opponent does not play pressure I do not like playing pressure away. With 5 in MF I pretty much play it religiously against 4/5 man midfields at home, but give it a miss against 3 man midfield. 3. Yeah I do play normal with S2H9 ref...haven't seen that freekicks have been a problem, but I'll go back to my databases and do some quantitive analysis shiz, before admitting this is an err.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21

Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2008-11-14 10:43:07 Uppdaterat: 2008-11-14 10:44:57 Citera Svara 4-4-2 wing plays with 2 headers up front would be awesome, especially if the oppo didn't tighten them.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2008-11-14 11:01:24 Uppdaterat: 2008-11-14 11:02:13 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS Ouch!! Yeah sorry about that.. Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS 1. Yes I know formation and style are mutually exclusive...I just rarely use wings with 442 based on previous experiences...but I'll check the data and reconsider my view accordingly. 2. I play pressure away from home when I know my opponent will also play pressure, but if I have 5 in midfield and my midfield is stronger and opponent does not play pressure I do not like playing pressure away. With 5 in MF I pretty much play it religiously against 4/5 man midfields at home, but give it a miss against 3 man midfield. 3. Yeah I do play normal with S2H9 ref...haven't seen that freekicks have been a problem, but I'll go back to my databases and do some quantitive analysis shiz, before admitting this is an err.

1. If your previous experience suggests 4-4-2 wing plays doesn't work, then either a: you've found what is basically a flaw in the system, or b: it just happened not to work in your sample.. There's no reason for the game engine to stop wing plays working with 4-4-2 independant of other factors, that I can think of. I know some people use wing plays with 4-3-3 cos it's like what Chelsea used to do in real life with Cole and Robben (not saying you do this GB, obviously!), but that's attributing the game engine with too much sophisitication I reckon. I remember when Champ Man got sophisticated ebough that if you played a right-footer on the left-wing, he'd take more shots than a left-footer who'd cross it more - I nearly jizzed myself when I read that (in fact at that age I probably did jizz myself) but xpert is no where near that level and never will be cos it needs to be playable in two 5-minute chunks per week if neccessary. 2. But why not play pressure away? And I'm asking this as someone who just doesn't get pressure, no in an accusatory way.. Unless the rules don't mention some important stuff about pressure, then as far as I can see the only draw-back of it is that it makes the players tired. So, using it away is ideal, surely? 3. Well I've occiasonally forgotten to use careful with that ref, and just got fuck-loads of cards and given away fuck-loads of freekicks. Of course you might get lucky, and they might not have any cheaters to exploit it, and they're FKer might be

on low form - but basically, the FK SQ is so strong as to almost be like a loop-hole in the game engine (with it making playerseffectively double-skill when taking kicks that means they're almost certainly much much stronger than the keeper they are facing) so anything that can be done to counter that is a good idea, for me.. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-14 11:15:56 Citera Svara This is a good debate in the great debates thread! I don't think formation hinders a tactic. Some say that they don't do wing plays with 4 mids and definately not with 3 but if you have a 4-3-3 formation you have 3 attackers in the box that can put the ball in the back of the net when it gets swung in. Same goes with through plays, one player up front, who is quick, can give the defence and keeper a torrid time. Taken from the rules, note the lone attacker part.. Through plays If you choose this strategy the team will try to hit more through balls. This can be a good tactic if you have fast attackers and your opponent's defenders are not so fast and their goalkeeper is not very good against a lone attacker who has broken away from the defence. Anyway, there is no definitive right and wrong with setting decent tactics. What works for one with a certain formation and tactics might not work for others as there's so much else to take into account.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-14 12:09:40 Citera Svara Yeah indeed - soooo much else. I actually think someone like Holidays could be higher ranked if he did less good tactics in that, the better your tactics are the more focused they are to every little nuance of the sitution, so therefore if you've misdjudged anything or your opponent behaves in an unpredicatble way, the worse your tactics become... Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2008-11-14 12:29:34 Citera

Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS If you play an opponent who has one strong defender - 12 bars - and the next best being 5 bars, would there be any value in man-marking the 12 bar defender so my other attacking players have an easy time against his weak defenders?? http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=86136&Boost=0&dh=1 Not sure I'd do this as I have plenty in hand anyway, but seems the right time to test such a hypothesis. Lol at his defence GB! Looking at that I would probably mark him an make his defence even weaker. I would want to play with 3 up front though if I was doing that, but would you want to risk a 6 skill striker up front? 4-4-2 should be ok though I reckon.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-17 20:06:57 Citera Svara Hi. I've just an idea so simple and good, I'm waiting for someone to point out the obvious massive flaw in it. It's this: I tend to buy 3 tactics reports per match, right? For Hellmoppers, not every team. I tend not to buy Cup ones so much, as people behave differently in the Cup (neutral venues, totally different skill opponents, etc). So it's just occured to me, there's only 8 teams in an xpert division. So that's only 3 games a week you aren't in. So why not just buy all 3 of the other league game's tactics reports? That way, you have a dossier of every single game played in your division to look back on for each game - you automatically accrue every report of your opponent, before you even come to research them. Total tactical knowledge - like God, but in xpert. Is that good? Or am I missing something? Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-17 20:29:54 Uppdaterat: 2008-11-17 20:42:01 Citera Svara Musk you started a post with "Hi"?

Err Hello. I've pretty much got all tactic reports in the xpert lge in past 3 seasons for who i played (danger teams), and past 2 seasons i've collected their reports from they're last season that way it gave me a bit of a start and knew how they played - I just used my notebook for it, one look let me know the style they're likely to use their ref workings etc.. bit like training in advance only tactics in advance. Example http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scr129d944hg4.jpg

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-17 20:30:55 Citera Svara I've missed loads of posts in here, they couldn't have showed on my log-in page.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-11-18 09:28:42 Citera Svara (I'm getting the same thing, mate - it's a bug, deffo.) Cool, I'll take a look at that image. Whole of the previous season too, eh? Blimey! Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2008-11-18 14:46:09 Uppdaterat: 2008-11-18 14:46:29

Citera Svara I'm on the verge of finally understanding pressure, just need a few more things. (I know it's a special moment) Is there any wrongs done by playing Long Range Shots and Pressure together? Other than the opponent countering them or any other, does it affect my team negatively? Thanks (and Duff, I sorta do the same but with several teams, not only 1 or 2, and around 6 to 10 reports of them each season. It's not costy as they help me pick tactics against one of the teams) Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-11-18 15:21:07 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Karisma-1st Is there any wrongs done by playing Long Range Shots and Pressure together? Other than the opponent countering them or any other, does it affect my team negatively? Thanks I don't think they affect each other at all, one is with the ball the other is without. If you have the ball and getting ready to crack off a long ranger you won't be adding pressure, but if they have LRS selected then you can pressure.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-18 17:49:27 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer Cool, I'll take a look at that image. Whole of the previous season too, eh? Blimey! Nah mate not the whole of their previous season, in week 12 when I knew I was heading for Dream lge,I started to take

notes of the teas i'd face that season & buy their tactics (handful) from their current season to understand their style make a rough guess at how they're likely to play, so as soon as my game was finished on a sunday night, i'd refer to the notes for a quick set-up of my tactics, then adjust nearer the game, but I still changed sometimes minutes before K/O, so all in all it was prob pointless.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-11-18 18:02:14 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster I started to take notes of the teas i'd face that season Always knew you were a tea lady!

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... 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ... Frfattare Meddelande Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-18 18:10:42 Citera Svara Milk & 1 pwease.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-11-28 12:34:49 Citera Svara Just wondering what people think about a marking situation.

My first game in the new dream league season starts this sunday and I've set my team up ready for it, pretty straight forward what I'm doing but I had to think long and hard about marking. I'm pretty sure he'll got 4-5-1 with his only decent striker up front. But he also has something like the second best player in the whole of the Dream Leagues that is a 15 skill midfielder. First off I thought it was pretty straight forward to mark the striker as his chances will be minimal and marking the 15 skiller with my 9-11 skilled mids would be pointless. But then I thought that if I marked the mid it will reduce the chnces of passes that he can provide and my decent defence and goalie should be able to stifle anything that the lone striker can do. I will be playing 4 at the back. Thinking about it so much I have myself confused now! So far it's set to marking the lone striker.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-28 12:41:17 Citera Svara I'd mark the striker unless he uses his 15-skill mid as a playmaker, in which case mark him. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-28 12:43:20 Citera Svara Funyn you should say that, sometimes he does sometimes he doesn't. I think he knows that he gets marked all the time so has another mid as a playmaker. But the 15 mid is always their motm when he's marked and not playmaker!

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I'm with Musk, would mark him if he's the playmaker.

Please help African orphans by sponsoring me to climb Kilimanjaro at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/RobertTreweek Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-11-28 12:50:32 Citera Svara what if there's a 1/4 chance he will be the playmaker so only 25% sure? Err to the striker? What about 50/50 chance he might be playmaker?

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-28 12:52:43 Citera Svara I dunno, in this situation I often wuss out and mark the striker cos it takes the responsibility out of the decision! Even if the playmaker is MOTM it's still worth marking him, as it is him that the attacks are channelled through so you may be able to prevent as many happening despite him being mint. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2008-11-28 12:57:14 Citera Svara Going for the striker. last few games he hasn't had his awesome mid playmaking. So I'm tightening the centre and pressuring aswell, suppose I could go the whole hog and do longballs aswell. Hmm, summat to think about.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-28 13:49:24 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Saint_Ash what if there's a 1/4 chance he will be the playmaker so only 25% sure? Err to the striker? What about 50/50 chance he might be playmaker? I don't know, flip a fucking coin.

Please help African orphans by sponsoring me to climb Kilimanjaro at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/RobertTreweek Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-11-28 14:29:58 Citera Svara I'd take out the incredible Mr. Potty. I'd probably mark him as well.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-11-28 15:23:25 Citera Svara Rich, are you of the opinion that if they have one striker up front (who is only a 10 skill) then my defence and keeper can cope with him? (total combined of 52 skill) Thats the only thing making me think not to mark their lone striker!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-11-28 15:23:40 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Doomonyouall I don't know, flip a fucking coin. Such anger young hippo!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-11-28 15:45:52 Uppdaterat: 2008-11-28 15:46:31 Citera Svara I see Potty as the bigger threat, hence I'd mark him. I'd expect a 4-man defence to hold the one forward at bay.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-11-30 13:25:13 Citera

Svara In my coming Xpert Ladies game, I play somehow an important game but it isn't that much important, I'm safe from relegation and play-offs is a probability but I don't have my eyes on it. http://www.xperteleven.com/standings.aspx?Lid=2574&Lnr=71&dh=1 Anyways, I'm playing a team at home, they have a better midfield and play 3 or 4 midfielders in a game. I'm not sure which one he'll go for next game but what I know is that my fielded midfield will be weaker than his and younger I guess. His team: http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=178404&Boost=0&dh=1 I'm going for a 5-3-2, Offensive. My team: http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=78974&Boost=0&dh=1 What I need to know is, should I go for Pressure or Long Balls? I have pressure as an option since if he plays 3, we'll have the same amount in midfield and his stronger. What do you think? Thanks Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-11-30 13:41:22 Citera Svara I think Long Balls because Offensive tires your players out and so does pressure leading to late goals. If you look at the Club Stats, he concedes a LOT of late goals compared to you - could be coincidence of course but it does suggest he's vulnerable late in games, which you could exploit.. (whilst bypassing his stronger midfield a bit anway.) Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-01 10:58:23 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Saint_Ash Going for the striker. last few games he hasn't had his awesome mid playmaking. So I'm tightening the centre and pressuring aswell, suppose I could go the whole hog and do longballs aswell. Hmm, summat to think about. Second before the game I changed to Potty and their striker scored!

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Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-12-01 13:37:36 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Karisma-1st In my coming Xpert Ladies game, I play somehow an important game but it isn't that much important, I'm safe from relegation and play-offs is a probability but I don't have my eyes on it. http://www.xperteleven.com/standings.aspx?Lid=2574&Lnr=71&dh=1 Anyways, I'm playing a team at home, they have a better midfield and play 3 or 4 midfielders in a game. I'm not sure which one he'll go for next game but what I know is that my fielded midfield will be weaker than his and younger I guess. His team: http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=178404&Boost=0&dh=1 I'm going for a 5-3-2, Offensive. My team: http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=78974&Boost=0&dh=1 What I need to know is, should I go for Pressure or Long Balls? I have pressure as an option since if he plays 3, we'll have the same amount in midfield and his stronger. What do you think? Thanks I'd use LB if you're going with 3 in the middle, but don't have any probs using pressure with LB & looking at his team he's scoring a few of late from LRS, i'd only include pressure if he's using LRS. I'd prob be tempted with 4-3-3 over 5 at the back though, as i don't reckon they are far greater than you, and might gain more of a chance taking the game to them.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-03 12:55:46 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-03 12:56:32 Citera Svara Just checked the MotW's cup match in the Master League (which got them MotR in that as well); would you ever play 3-52 offensive away from home with a weaker side? 3-4-3 << Formation >> 3-5-2

Offensive << Playing style >> Offensive Through plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> No Careful << Aggression >> Careful No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Zacharias Harrington << Playmaker >> Nilesh Baldeep Pontus Normell << Tightly marked >> Zacharias Harrington Leslie Fallon << Captain >> Pehr Bellhammar

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-03 12:57:18 Citera Svara I'd never play 3-5-2 offensive away from home at all, but I guess it worked because 3-4-3 offensive leaves so many gaps at the back, like Newcastle in their Apsrillia/Cole/Beardsley hey-day.. Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:10:13 Citera Svara It was not an away game.. it was on neutral.

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... 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ... Frfattare Meddelande Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:11:18 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-03 13:11:37 Citera Svara 2nd round, 1st leg; it was away. I'm in the ML and I have my 2nd leg tomorrow. Unless I've done a Hellmoppers.

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Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:11:30 Citera Svara Oh yeah, sorry. Strange then.

Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:20:34 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn I've done a Hellmoppers. Stick that in your Urban Dictionary!!

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:21:09 Citera Svara mega s.. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem:

2006-09-11 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:28:05 Citera Svara After seeing that, mayhaps i'll go offensive against Nobego away. Strange one though, even if it works you'd still expect the system to score it otherwise, unless the playing style on it's own wasn't enough to stop MOTW.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:40:10 Citera Svara I probably would do it if I knew the home side were going to play 3-4-3 and were shit but he didn't prepare for 3-4-3 and his team was better. So basically we have to figure out why it worked!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:47:22 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-03 13:47:49 Citera Svara The only explanation is that he marked his playmaker and that reduce drastically the scoring chances. My opinion, again is that this tactic is the most important in the game, especially when you are the away team. Then 3-4-3 offensive on paper is more offensive than 3-5-2 offensive. We all know that away from home we should play a little less defensive than the home team. Well, he did. He won with a weaker team and that's why he was elected manager of the cup, and then manager of the week.

Nothing out of ordinary here.

Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-12-03 13:53:57 Citera Svara Anybody care to check these results and discuss? http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=3897767&dh=1 http://www.xperteleven.com/cupGameDetails.aspx?GameID=420166&dh=1 Long time ago like, but I was just checking to see what tactics my mate played when he got MotW and was stunned to see 4-2-4. Twice.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-12-03 14:01:35 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Blu3red The only explanation is that he marked his playmaker and that reduce drastically the scoring chances. My opinion, again is that this tactic is the most important in the game, especially when you are the away team. Then 3-4-3 offensive on paper is more offensive than 3-5-2 offensive. We all know that away from home we should play a little less defensive than the home team. Well, he did. He won with a weaker team and that's why he was elected manager of the cup, and then manager of the week. Nothing out of ordinary here. Seems like he got in the lobby through luck then than decent tactics, if Playing 3-5-2 offensive gave him a lot of points because the oppo played 3-4-3 offensive (that he didn't prepare for). Played careful in both games by the look of it aswell.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-03 14:16:20 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn Anybody care to check these results and discuss? http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=3897767&dh=1 http://www.xperteleven.com/cupGameDetails.aspx?GameID=420166&dh=1 Long time ago like, but I was just checking to see what tactics my mate played when he got MotW and was stunned to see 4-2-4. Twice. Even though a lot of people disregard some formations like 4-2-4 I do belive there is a time and place when every formation can be applied and when it's best suited for it. I suppose your mate might have got everything right, decent tactics, won the games, more chances, got the ref right etc. 4-2-4 worked there. Maybe the formation doesn't create many manager points but what the tactics are in conjuntion with the formation makes the points.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-07 10:37:59 Citera Svara Is it okay for me to play 4-5-1 away to 4-3-3? I assume I shouldn't use pressure, and I want to use a playmaker who he will mark. I have 3 7 skillers and 1 9 skiller. He'll probably mark the 9 skiller, so should I use them anyway as they are my best player or not? I want to mark an attacker, because one is 8 skill and everyone else is 6 or less. Is it worth it bearing in mind he has three attackers?

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[GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-12-07 11:23:02 Citera Svara Doom...my view of 451 vs. 433 is it can be very effective but mostly on the assumption that you can play LRS as your opponent will rarely pressure.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2008-12-07 11:41:53 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-07 11:42:03 Citera Svara Yeah was gonna do that anyway, as he'll probably go for normal defence and I have no players really with SQs that would make a difference.

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[Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-07 16:24:21 Citera Svara http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=501950&Boost=0&dh=4 Okay, would you not mark anyone then ? (he changes formation every round, I may be predicting it wrong, but I don't think he'll risk a slightly injured player). Game not long away, quick answers appreciated!

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Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2008-12-07 17:16:19 Citera Svara

Erm...now I don't know. Wish you fucking high ranks could agree more often!

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Flytta till verst p sidan Karisma-1st [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-10-07 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-12-07 19:24:13 Citera Svara Their midfield form is much worse than their forwards' so I would go for marking one of their forwards. Flytta till verst p sidan Sherwyn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Sherwyn] Blev medlem: 2007-05-16 Svar till: Karisma-1st Skrivet: 2008-12-07 20:04:57 Citera Svara If u know he is going to play 3 up front, I would mark nobody rather than a forward. It seems he has only two midfielders from which to choose a playmaker, I would mark the 27 year old. played above his skill level which suggests that he is on higher form. Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Sherwyn Skrivet: 2008-12-07 20:08:27 Citera Svara Well I outchanced him but drew 0-0, guessed his formation wrong anyway

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Skrivet: 2008-12-13 23:02:54 Citera Svara No one replied in the scribble and it got lost so thought I'd stick it here aswell. Has anyone got any good examples of using 3-5-2 at home beating 5-3-2 cautious or defensive. Thats what I'm looking at doing tomoro for the killers but have my reserves. I think 5-3-2 longballs is perfect counter but if I go 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 I play a new defender without a heart. On the verge of changing to 4-3-3 though. cheers

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-15 11:28:18 Citera Svara So the 5-3-2 worked for them Ash.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-15 11:39:36 Citera Svara Yep. I was umming and ahhing all the time, changed it to 4-3-3 then back to 3-5-2 in the last minute. Even though I knew exactly what he was going to do, it was bad managerial shit on my behalf. I thought if I had 5 in the middle and pressure his 3 with long balls it might help. Didn't. I jumped up over 100 places from 400-300 though even though I lost and counted about 8-10 managerial points. So get everything right apart from their playmaker and the right formation for me to play. Note to self, 5-3-2 is great against 3-5-2!

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Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-15 11:50:23 Citera Svara Can't say 've tried 5-3-2 against it (prob somewhere tho) Player dependant i'll keep that in mind, maybe better to use that away & 4-3-3 at home against the much loved 3-5-2, with the right players.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-15 12:14:09 Citera Svara Thatswhat I was thinking. 3-5-2 was my strongest lineup and tactcs were decent, suprised to lose at home by such a score. 5-3-2 longballs is the way forward!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-15 12:16:26 Citera Svara Got him MOTR too Ash. 532 is the new 352

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2008-12-15 12:19:18 Citera Svara I wish to fuck I had 5 defenders to play on wednesday against Perishers, I can see them getting 5 or 6 goals.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-15 12:23:16 Citera Svara He did GB, he had decent tactcs to be fair. I just knew what they were going to be and fucked up myself. If I won the game I'd have got manager. Not that I'm worried about that, I'm worried about the fuckin points on the board! 5-3-2 would be nice against Perishers Duff, you cannae do it then?

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-15 12:46:50 Citera Svara Not unlessI use a youth, so ruled that out. Form is so bad, and have no real win bonus, I don't think whatever I do will matter to the result tbh.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-15 12:52:54 Citera Svara gonna be very defensive is it? all about damage limitation. goal difference can count a lot I reckon!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-15 12:58:24 Citera Svara Maybe it's time to try offensive away, LB,Pressure,Cheat,Offside,Bruise,Kitchen sink. On yersel random factor!!!!

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-15 15:23:20 Citera Svara Have a look at these two games, this is the second time i've seen the system go for the team that uses offensive away, or

can you take something else from the teams to award MOTR? that lovely 3-5-2. Note I have a far weaker team too. 4-4-2 << Formation >> 4-5-1 Offensive << Playing style >> Normal Varied << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No No << Cheating >> Yes No << Win bonus >> Yes None << Playmaker >> Russ Edwards None << Tightly marked >> None Bhangra Shaker << Captain >> Russ Edwards (REF 2-2) http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6359467&dh=4 4-4-2 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Cautious << Playing style >> Offensive Long range shots << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> Yes Yes << Cheating >> No No << Win bonus >> Yes None << Playmaker >> Aye McPie None << Tightly marked >> None Johann Galea << Captain >> Craig Gordon (REF 7-2) http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6359493&dh=4

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-15 16:23:14 Citera Svara Has playing offensive away always thought to be a death sentence??? Flytta till verst p sidan

Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2008-12-15 16:29:06 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-15 16:29:58 Citera Svara Well it isn't always the cleverest things to do, but in games like the one above fair enough as the team is predictable and Archie obv knew what tactics he plays, but that's not my point, the engine should imo see it as a bad move on playing style. Or doe's it.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-15 16:34:12 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-15 16:34:57 Citera Svara India turned out a pretty poor 11 tbf, and I wouldn't have used pressure in your match. Playing more offensive may work when you're stronger but I'll admit it's been a while since I played offensive away.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-15 16:38:23 Citera Svara But he was going normal, so I had to cover the attack proper, I don't know how much diff is between the skill with me & India, and in genral i've played as the weaker team all season, haven't noticed any gain for that, when we get a result. I don't disagree it can't work (offensive) I know it can in situations, my point is how the engine has graded it.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-15 17:01:22 Citera Svara I personally think 4-5-1 is the systems favourite formation for ranking points. India were just proper shit though mate, that's why you never got it!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-15 17:21:50 Citera Svara I beat rich with good ol 5-3-2 away!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-15 17:23:41 Citera Svara Ash, pretty much everybody's beat me playing pretty much anything, so don't look into that one too much!

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[Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-15 17:29:58 Citera Svara I have to put it down to my managerial genius or I might give up after last night's game with the killers!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Dochawkes [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Dochawkes] Blev medlem: 2006-09-15 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-15 21:15:26 Citera Svara Here's an interesting one for y'all to chew over guys.... played Viola squad in the dream league sunday night, and I absolutely forgot to set any tactics for the game at all.. (set up the tline-up, the system set the f/kicker and peno taker by default) The tactics report is pasted below for you..... The 'interesting' bit is the fact that i won manager of the round by NOT setting any tactics at all....lol... go figure eh!! (I won 2-0 by the way.... thank f**k for Kramer and Duke...) Doc Viola squad...........................KnightHawks 4-4-2 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Normal << Playing style >> Normal Through plays << Offence >> Varied Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> No John Marcu << Playmaker >> None Jonathon Grenier << Tightly marked >> None Sten-ke Hedenhs << Captain >> Nick Kramer

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2006-04-12 Svar till: Dochawkes Skrivet: 2008-12-16 09:32:29 Citera Svara Haha, you got MOTR for 4-4-2 normal/varied/normal?! Ace! Flytta till verst p sidan Doomonyouall [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Doomonyouall] Blev medlem: 2006-04-02 Svar till: Dochawkes Skrivet: 2008-12-16 16:24:19 Citera Svara Well, your tactics could have been worse, as he didn't prepare for you, 4-4-2 normal is probably okay when he does the same at home, you won an away game which helps a good amount, and no one else in the league won away, which always helps people. And his offence/defence didn't really give him an advantage. I notice the only other two managers to win a game have low manager skill, so clearly no one else had great tactics.

Please help African orphans by sponsoring me to climb Kilimanjaro at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/RobertTreweek Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2008-12-16 16:55:56 Citera Svara In otherwords Doc, the best from a shit bunch!

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Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-17 02:07:41 Citera Svara You have such a luverly way with words Ash Daaahling But i would rather be the best of a shit bunch than the shittest m8..... And for doom, I see what you mean, Ta for the elucidation mon ami..... Doc

"If at first you dont succeed.... Do a flugelfish" Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Dochawkes Skrivet: 2008-12-19 17:51:48 Citera Svara Just wondering how many people were aware of this little snippet of info re farming: Ursprungligen postat av: Teh Xpert Daily!!!!!!1111 When a player is transfer listed his/her average form will count and the player will get a skill update when he changes club if the player's average form is based on at least 8 form notations. http://www.xperteleven.com/xpertdaily.aspx?DartID=66&S=3&lang=EN Now, I'm assuming that still applies (but I'm gonna get it checked out), but it certainly suggests that any farm brought in with knackered form may not be affected when they get shipped out again (if you do it quick enough).

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-19 18:02:16 Citera Svara I have sold players on again after a month and their form was about 3 and they haven't decreased in skill to the buyer and I've aways had my suspicions about it. Nice to know it's true. Also helps when looking for an undervalued to check how long the player has been at the team and if he's had enough notations.

Good find Rich

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-19 18:05:26 Citera Svara It would be a good find if it were true: Ursprungligen postat av: My mailbox!!!!1111 No. The part of counting form notations is not used any more. It is based on the match experience and the part of the season the player has belonged to the club. Regards Iwe The X11 Crew Got back to me in about 10 minutes. Iwe must be having a quiet day.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-19 18:10:05 Citera Svara Hmmm, Part of the season? I wonder then if you sell the player early on in the season he might stay the same and if you sell him towards the end of the season with no ME he might go down but the players I've bought and sold to create funds have been sold at varying times of the season and only stayed with me for the month and they've never decreased in skill, even with 0 ME and 2 ave form.

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Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2008-12-23 10:54:11 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-23 10:55:08 Citera Svara http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6359525&dh=4 5-4-1 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Defensive Wing plays << Offence >> Long range shots Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> No Careful << Aggression >> Careful No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Gustavo Baraja << Playmaker >> Valentin Lazariuc Valentin Lazariuc << Tightly marked >> Russ Edwards Russ Edwards << Captain >> Valentin Lazariuc This game was very annoying, we had great forms going into it they didn't. OK they are stronger but still harsh they create more? & i'm left with a big drop in form and countless red arrows, feel violated.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-23 11:17:24 Citera Svara Looks like pure strength did it. if you ha 1 more chance you probably would've got motr! that would've been a pisser!

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[Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2008-12-23 11:19:32 Citera Svara So was mine in here yesterday..... 5-4-1 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Normal << Playing style >> Defensive Through plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the wings Yes << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Ed Bolton << Playmaker >> Ricardo Moutinho Ricardo Moutinho << Tightly marked >> Errol Higgins Mark Wiggers << Captain >> Noel Ross .....and I got owned 0-2 at home. I hate playing 5-4-1 at home but needed to to play my youngest defender and did not want to have to do it in my last game. Now I have to win not to go down. bah humbug!

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2008-12-23 11:31:07 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-23 11:31:30 Citera Svara Looks like 5-4-1 pressure might be a no no at home when oppo is defensive. And other factors, but that's what I was first from both matches.

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Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2008-12-26 21:54:58 Citera Svara So Rich, isn't this a massive cog in the farming system then? I asked Arc about this and he didn't seemed concerned at the time, but it is something I thought about almost right away. If nobody else is having issues with it I will just shut up, but surely finding these undervalues only has marginal value if when evaluated they go right back down in skill when you try to sell them on.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Roberto11x [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Roberto11x] Blev medlem: 2007-04-28 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2008-12-26 22:06:26 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-26 22:08:14 Citera Svara Been wondering about this myself with some players I've bought undervalued. Got a player the other day for my Xpert Team on market as an 18*4 but evaluated as a 5 skill. Well worth 'farming' this player, because even when I sell him there will be several bidders who won't evaluate due to the reasonably low value of the player. So even if he doesn drop back down in skill, he should still sell at 2.5m+ which is still a owrthwhile profit. However, for higher valued players it would be unlikely many people would bid without evaluating first and seeing that the player was worse than listed. For this reason I reckon its best to only 'farm' players of low-ish skill, whilst the better undervalued players should only be bought if you want them in your team long-term. Flytta till verst p sidan Roberto11x [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Roberto11x] Blev medlem: 2007-04-28 Svar till: Roberto11x Skrivet: 2008-12-26 22:07:12 Uppdaterat: 2008-12-26 22:07:41 Citera Svara . Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan]

[Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Roberto11x Skrivet: 2008-12-26 22:10:40 Citera Svara Ya, I got a 19/6 intelligent FW on the market now that I payed 1.1M for that I stand to make a huge profit on. He is only on like 4 or 5 AF at the moment, so I wonder if he is appearing as a 6 or a 5 when evaled. He's in for 4.7M right now which I think is a great deal for whoever gets him; hopefully I can squeeze more out but not overly concerned.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Roberto11x [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Roberto11x] Blev medlem: 2007-04-28 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2008-12-26 22:16:32 Citera Svara Yeah, a 19*6 would be one of those borderline players on which to evaluate. Most of us in here would evaluate such a player, but as its "only" 5mil, I can easily imagine some managers wouldn't spend the 250k However, lets say you bought an 18*6 who was really a 7 skill, and got him for about 10m. If you wanted to sell him on in a month's time then I can't imagine any manager who wanted him not evaluating him before bidding first. If he then evaluated as a 6 skill then you'd be lucky to recoup the 10m you spent on him, rather than making a big profit. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Roberto11x Skrivet: 2008-12-26 22:36:58 Citera Svara yeah, that is definitely the case. We might need to get some clarification on this, as the evals and the risk are not worth it if the player loses his transfer cashout when you list him right away if his form is sub 10.

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Mottollolages last 3 away games.........However he will only have 3 midfielders available...Hes played 532 and 433 the same number of times This is kinda scary when you play with the big boys Tighten the wings anyone???????????? 5-4-1 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Defensive << Playing style >> Offensive Wing plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Careful Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> No Gordon Kit << Playmaker >> Ernst Brander None << Tightly marked >> None Gordon Kit << Captain >> Gerhard Sverkersson 5-4-1 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Defensive << Playing style >> Offensive Varied << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> No Careful << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> No No << Win bonus >> No Lorik Curri << Playmaker >> Anthony Etherington Fred Kihlstedt << Tightly marked >> Lorik Curri Lorik Curri << Captain >> Rufus Axelsson 5-3-2 << Formation >> 3-4-3 Offensive << Playing style >> Offensive Through plays << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Klavier Dugarry << Playmaker >> Anthony Etherington Ernst Brander << Tightly marked >> Klavier Dugarry Zachery Ware << Captain >> Erik Engelbrekt Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:08:56 Citera Svara 424 v. offensive, bruise and mark the GK.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:10:00 Citera Svara Just my thoughts...Cheers the Zinkster Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:10:32 Uppdaterat: 2009-01-06 19:11:45 Citera Svara I suspect as one of his defenders is slightly injured and not back until the 9th, he may not have great form. Therefore 4-33 wouldn't surprise me at all here. Looking at your squad, I think 5-4-1 is probably the best formation to deal a 4-3-3. The wings problem is a risky one he's a top manager, perhaps defending Normal would be my choice here with Pressure Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:12:21 Citera Svara Well hes played it the last 3 times....can he be that good...(obviously ignoring the Ranked number 2 thingy on his profile Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:16:16 Uppdaterat: 2009-01-06 19:16:53 Citera

Svara Yeh, ignoring he's that good Bear in mind, he played it 3 games ago against a good manager. The last 2 managers haven't been great though, one an 8 skill and one a 4 skill so he will know he can get away with it. Bearing this in mind, if it's a preferential way of playing then he can do it all he likes. Not against you though, your a good manager and he'll know that. Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:22:27 Citera Svara so you saying that itll be 4-3-3 maybe varied Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:27:37 Citera Svara yeah, look at his last opponents. i agree with oli, but it takes some steel to go tighten the centre in the face of 3 consecutive wing plays if you think he might switch to thru plays.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:31:31 Citera Svara Would it then be a safe bet to go normal then.....If it was somebody else id have tightened the wings but like you said seeing as though he knows hes playing me hes prob.shitting it and wondering whether to change Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan]

[Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:32:10 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: IW5ECs so you saying that itll be 4-3-3 maybe varied No, I think he will go Through or LRS, but thats an equal gamble. I do think 4-3-3 is most likely, and as I say, I'd counter that with a 5-4-1. But as Colin says, it takes steel to defend the centre so I'd probably hedge my bets with Normal and pressure. Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:35:53 Citera Svara well juding by that...here are the three in between games hes played, all at home, and so this now opens a whole new can of worms ...... 3-4-3 << Formation >> 5-2-3 Offensive << Playing style >> Normal Wing plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Bruise No << Long balls >> Yes Yes << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Anthony Etherington << Playmaker >> None Carl-Gunnar Hallstensson << Tightly marked >> Gunnar rleskog Rufus Axelsson << Captain >> Wes McConnell 4-3-3 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Cautious Long range shots << Offence >> Long range shots Tighten the wings << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> No Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Inge Tengblad << Playmaker >> None William Adelberg << Tightly marked >> Anthony Etherington Rufus Axelsson << Captain >> William Adelberg 4-4-2 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Offensive

Through plays << Offence >> Through plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the wings No << Prepared >> No Careful << Aggression >> Bruise No << Long balls >> Yes No << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> Yes No << Win bonus >> Yes Ernst Brander << Playmaker >> Milot Kosova Milot Kosova << Tightly marked >> Ernst Brander Ernst Brander << Captain >> Feniks Mehmeti Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:39:49 Citera Svara Actually it tells you that he isn't just going to pick wing plays blindly; he will think about the best way to catch you out. You should also consider is he good enough to realise that you might be aware of the fact that he could bait you and then decide against it? A tough call indeed...

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:41:17 Citera Svara Do you reckon i mai lhim and ask what tactics hes gonna use lolz Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:48:20 Citera Svara

Ursprungligen postat av: IW5ECs Do you reckon i mai lhim and ask what tactics hes gonna use lolz Hehaa Euro I reckon he'll go 4-4-2. (what tactics are his from second post?) Are you going to consider going normal with that ref to claw back some diff in skill against his careful and cup random factor? 4-5-1 or 5-4-1? I find very defensive in the cup against weaker teams a nightmare to get past, might be good idea here aswell.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-06 19:51:23 Uppdaterat: 2009-01-06 20:36:25 Citera Svara Edit: Bla bla. Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2009-01-06 20:19:08 Citera Svara Hell be playing a player out of position though Duff as hell onl;y have 3 fit or elligible mids........ The second posts are the middle three games hes played , they are ALL his home games... Must say 5-4-1 was my original thought, however im not sure now Dunno what the ref is lols...ill have a look now Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 20:37:39 Uppdaterat: 2009-01-06 20:38:13 Citera

Svara The two on a card are back for the cup game against you! And I reck he'll play a slightly injured player or the yoof I reck 4-4-2 aswell. You can beat him, think positive!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-01-06 20:45:46 Citera Svara Ahhhhh big massive Doney bollocks..forgot he got an Xpert Champs game first hasnt he Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-06 20:52:50 Citera Svara His team is looking better all time! Fucking Doneys! Go 3-4-3 Very defensive

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-01-06 20:55:33 Citera Svara Simliar to donkeys but have larger testicles Great, another formation

I might see tomorrow and asess his team and any injuries...Seen the team hes playing......like fuckin 35 skill team Flytta till verst p sidan ... 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ...

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Skrivet: 2009-01-06 20:56:22 Citera Svara 424 FTW!!!!!!!!!!

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-07 21:49:13 Citera Svara OOOOOOO fuck.....hell now onloy have 1 player unavailable....... He drew 0-0 with 35 skill bar FC tonight..............with these tactics..i reckon hell go bak to wing plays......4-4-2 just a felling like 5-3-2 Very defensive << Playing style >> Defensive Through plays << Offence >> Through plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> No Careful << Aggression >> Careful No << Long balls >> Yes Yes << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> No No << Win bonus >> Yes Nang-Klao Chai << Playmaker >> Anthony Etherington None << Tightly marked >> Gert Kastrup Doinel Nichita << Captain >> Erik Engelbrekt Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 15:59:58 Citera Svara Decided what your going to do (apart from pray) - best bet is to gamble normal against his careful, the random factor added might be kind to you.

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Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-09 16:34:31 Citera Svara Ah for fuck sake...was gomnna go very defensive for the annoying option Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 16:40:31 Citera Svara You can go very defensive and normal!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-01-09 16:45:08 Citera Svara That is true..Please ignore me as i still have a virus and dunno what im doing...so may win then haha!!!!!111111!!!!!19999 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 16:57:22 Citera Svara V Defensive is a good option against a team like that, normal aggression will be a gamble but tbh it's worth it as a

peformance reduction against a team like that is last thing you need. Have you checked your own tactics from last few games?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:00:01 Citera Svara Yes and they are shite Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:00:45 Citera Svara He hasnt actually looked at my side for about 4 days Flash Fucker Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:04:38 Citera Svara Yet he's looked at mine 3 times in 2 days. Euro I think he'll go 4-4-2 LRS & prob mark your striker.

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[Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:07:40 Citera Svara He's obviously worried about his number 2 rank Duff!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:10:18 Citera Svara He'll have 18 bars back after playing tonight.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:12:02 Citera Svara After he's dicked Euro yeah!

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Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:17:12 Citera Svara HEHA..

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:18:02 Citera Svara I was gonna go v def 541 normal THC and pressure?? Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:37:42 Citera Svara Are you marking his keeper? Seems to be the new craze atm, that's twice in 2 days i've had a GK marked.

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Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:50:06 Citera Svara Nah im gonna bruise the fooker..Take him down a bar or 10 Flytta till verst p sidan Holidays [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Holidays] Blev medlem: 2007-08-09 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:54:02 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Are you marking his keeper? Seems to be the new craze atm, that's twice in 2 days i've had a GK marked. Who would play such a bush tactic Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Holidays Skrivet: 2009-01-09 17:57:23 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Holidays Who would play such a bush tactic Prob an Englishman & a German, that's my guess anyhoo.

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Uppdaterat: 2009-01-09 18:11:33 Citera Svara Euro this is my guess on him. 4-4-2 << Formation Normal << Playing style LRS << Offence Tighten Centre ---<< Prepared Careful<< Aggression No << Long balls Yes<< Pressure Yes << Offside traps No<< Cheating Yes << Win bonus Ernst Brander << Playmaker Bruno or Ray Berg << 4-5-1 being your strongest formation. prob best not guessing PM tho.

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... 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ... Frfattare Meddelande IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-09 18:07:12 Citera Svara ok thanks mate 4-2-4 it is then eh Zokin Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 18:20:40 Citera Svara YUUSSSSSS!!!11!!!!!!!1!! Don't forget v. offensive, longballs, and mark the GK.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-09 18:21:12 Citera

Svara And no win bonus Mrs.Spain.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-09 18:35:37 Citera Svara lollages..i got raped 4-1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 18:37:07 Citera Svara Your keeper had a shitter. 5 at the back for him. monster DEF.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-01-09 20:31:42 Citera Svara Hmm....tricky against a 19 bar defence. I would take a compliment from that Euro that he put his strongest eleven against you.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan IW5ECs [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-11-29 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-01-09 20:35:42 Uppdaterat: 2009-01-09 20:35:52 Citera Svara I know 19 bar defence.....Flash fucker Couldve given me a chance like Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 22:01:52 Citera Svara you should have listened to me...

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-09 22:45:53 Citera Svara Is 19 that good? I have managed a 19 offence

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Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-01-09 23:46:53 Citera Svara That Slottat (sp) against me in the XCL played a 20 offence, .. Bas you must have cracking strikeforce there. Euro, you defended his LRS + V Def, just shows how strong they are, and that's with careful.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan NortonAntivirus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: IW5ECs Skrivet: 2009-01-09 23:53:01 Uppdaterat: 2009-01-09 23:53:18 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: IW5ECs lollages..i got raped What goes around comes around. Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: NortonAntivirus Skrivet: 2009-01-25 19:51:58 Uppdaterat: 2009-01-26 15:48:19 Citera Svara 4-3-3 << Formation >> 3-4-3 Offensive << Playing style >> Defensive Varied << Offence >> Through plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the wings Yes << Prepared >> No (he hasn't played 3-4-3 in last 3 matches, I played 4-3-3 once) Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> No

No << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes (50k) << Win bonus >> Yes (400k) Alexandre Pato << Playmaker >> Marinko Karega Don Dusobriznik << Tightly marked >> None Gianni Rivera << Captain >> Don Dusobriznik referee:s6,h4 result:1-2, chances:2-4 link: http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6483984&dh=4 individual ratings: home team: 7-9,7,11,8-9,9,9-11,9,6....tot=95 away team: 8-9,9,8-11,9,10,10-9,8,8...tot=99 me on the left here... so what do you think? how bad were my tactics? was huge win bonus, me marking wrong player, and poorer performance from some of my players enough for the away team to snatch away win? or... Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-01-26 13:03:40 Citera Svara Quick question regarding form. If you had a load of players on 17/18 form with ave form of 14ish would you stick them on training knowing it would finish after a game, pre emptive training. Risking overtraining on a load knowing thr form won't be up again in time for the next game. Or if the form was that high would you wait till the game and then decided to stick them on. Could miss out on valuable training days that way though. Is it worth doing to get the ave form as high as poss?

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-01-26 15:17:32 Citera Svara Mistra, can you link us up to the match? Seems a tad harsh, but that gap in win bonus probably covered your home factor...but still 433 longballs should beat a 343 more often than not without a large gap in skill...

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad!

Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-01-26 15:20:23 Citera Svara I assume the players have down arrows? If not it is kind of silly I'd say...I am not sure about this one since form tendecies change after each game randomly and if you player stays the same or goes up, that form train could be a heavy overtrain. Wouldn't be awful tho since even tho form goes down with an overtrain, the tendency I believe remains positive (pretty sure that is right...).

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-26 15:27:19 Uppdaterat: 2009-01-26 15:28:05 Citera Svara Aye, overtraining guarantees a positive FT. There are times when a player can have a green arrow or very high form and I'll train - an uncharacteristically high gain in form after a match or a massive gain from training when the player had a suspected -ve FT prior to that are two examples. Also, I may train before big matches where there is a reasonable chance that my side will lose. So, most of the time basically.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-26 15:27:38 Citera Svara

I've got a question/thought...for a while I've been playing more aggressive in C24 than I do elsewhere. I have a shit load of toughs in my team, but basically with a 10 game season I believe the importance of suspensions is reduced. i.e. It's harder to rack up 3 bookings with fewer games. Is this logic flawed, or do you do anything else differently here than in other leagues??

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-26 15:29:18 Citera Svara Down arrows just show you how you performed last match, that is no indication of how the tendancy is going right now. I hate to train when on seriously high form but lets say I did it before the game today, I would have 2 games before it finished and in that time the players form could've dropped considerably. The maximum percentage a player can drop after an over train is 25, so if I have a player on 18 form and he overtrains then he'll go to 13-14 form b ut then he can't over train straight after. Also there's only 20% he'll overtrain so the figures to me make sense to train them!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-01-26 15:35:18 Citera Svara I'd listen to Fenn personally...but the risks are there no matter what you choose.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink]

Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-01-26 15:39:15 Citera Svara Now it is the Boxfresh so ultimately I don't care about the result but this one was too shady not to put up here...sorry Euro but this is the scalp of the century for you unless your home factor is better than Celtic's or Galatasaray's... http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6613499&dh=4 4-3-3 << Formation >> 4-3-3 Cautious << Playing style >> Defensive Wing plays << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Tighten the wings No << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Bruise Yes << Long balls >> Yes No << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes No << Win bonus >> Yes Abda Rizal << Playmaker >> Elom Muller Ion Micu << Tightly marked >> Abda Rizal 1-0 scoreline 7-1 chances...and my team has an 11 offense rating...

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... 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ... Frfattare Meddelande GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-03-03 08:17:26 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-03 11:15:15 Citera Svara In recent weeks I lose ranking when my one game a week comes off on a Thursday, and gain on a Saturday - and now Tuesdays with my cup re-started. I guess due to February being a short month today is the first time in ages I've gained and lost a game on the same day. Overnight I've gone from #114 to #145. Looking at the ranking groupings it looks like my net loss is either 5 or 6 manager points. Yesterdays tactics look decent enough to me, particularly relative the the game that came out of my cycle. GB at home - S3H3 ref - 2 March 09 3-5-2 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Normal << Playing style >> Normal Wing plays << Offence >> Varied Normal << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> Yes Yes << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> No Caracario Stroppa << Playmaker >> None None << Tightly marked >> None Anders Engstrm << Captain >> Caj Kihlstrm I don't have the tactics saved of the game of 1st September 08 I believe I have lost, but it was also a home game where I played 352 and I certainly would have played normal aggression, no offsides and cheat.

http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=5757296&dh=1 My question, brethren of C24, is from the outside the two games look quite similar - so what could I have done in my game yesterday that lost me the 5-6 points my ranking drop suggests. Cheers in advance for any thoughts... Edit - If by some mysterious chance I've actually lost the match of 8th September - I was the away side I didn't win or create more chances or do anything decent tactically, so I really am at a bit of a loss here...

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-03-03 17:26:26 Citera Svara Not sure tbh, only thing i can think of is the game that came off scored more tactically because the manager played decent tactics against? as the one above has no tactics set really it could've been worth less, also perhaps a better sqaud selection etc.. might turn out the points lost are not as much as 5/6 points? Sure you didn't use careful with the 2/9?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-03-03 17:33:18 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Sure you didn't use careful with the 2/9? It's very unlikely but I guess not impossible as I don't play careful with this ref...period In the scheme of everything 5-6 points just seems a lot for such relatively small things.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more.

Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-03-03 17:36:42 Citera Svara It doe's, as that would be around a quarter of the 100%, yeah. I reckon it ends up boggling trying to work out the little points, that's not a bad thing all the same.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-03-03 17:49:00 Citera Svara In the first game your average age would've been +26 but it was under for yesterday. shouldn't make a great deal of difference though. You could always buy the match report and post it!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-03-03 18:11:55 Citera Svara between 2008-09-01 and 2009-03-02 there are 182 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date or 6 months, 1 day excluding the end date... i never really payed too much attention about these things so i don't know the exact duration of the ranking cycle? are you sure that your game of 2008-09-01 came out of the cycle today?

Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-03-03 18:34:36 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-03 18:35:03 Citera Svara if I presume that you're correct, there are also other managers that gained and lost the game on the same day (Final League, Major League, Pro League, Ultimate League and Xpert International) so maybe some of them had a crappy game going out of their ranking cycle making them improve their ranking and going ahead of you... I think these factors combined made you drop to #145, not only tactics Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-03 18:39:26 Citera Svara Sure...it's just on days when you don't lose a game you barely ever move, so it should be swings and roundabouts I thought...

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-03-03 19:04:48 Citera Svara The ranking cycle is 6 months +1 day until the opposite is proven A few points: (would have been easier if you had bought the other tactic report) 1. Manager points for winning takes the opponent into consideration. So you got more from winning against an equal opponent than your weak cup-opponent yesterday. 2. When the opponent use varied-normal, you will not get as many points as you would have if he had tightened the centre to your wing plays and you preparing for his varied with normal defence will not gain as many points if you had prepared correctly for wings/centre/lrs.

Depends on the first match, but just here I think you could have lost the 5-6 points. 3. You did not get extra manager points from preparing the right formation since he had used it the last 3 times. 4. You will not get a lot of extra manger points if he prepared for None (my guess) to your 3-5-2 when you had played it just 1 of the last 3. 5. Since he didn't choose a playmaker, you did not get extra manager points from choosing none either. 6. My experience is that when you don't play your best players/best possible line-up, you will not gain as many points as you would if you had choosen the "right" line-up. You choosed two new youths, a goalkeeper and a striker. (of course you should use it due to exp. but tactically it was not the right choise.) To sum up: It's very hard to get manager points from weak opponents, and when they play varied/normal/none/none and so on, the only thing you can rely on is your team strength.

If I act like stupid, it's just because I want you to understand me. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-03-03 19:09:21 Citera Svara Thanks SS...that sounds about perfect to me. Appreciate all those who took the time

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-03-03 22:08:00 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: SuperSprint 1. Manager points for winning takes the opponent into consideration. So you got more from winning against an equal opponent than your weak cup-opponent yesterday. are you sure about this SS? i read somewhere, dunno when or where, about the amount of manager points you get for winning home/away, drawing etc, also winning on chances home/away, and i didn't see anything about this thing you're talking about. the amount of manager points was fixed for particular situation, it wasn't mentioned that it can vary with the strength of the opponent

Flytta till verst p sidan SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-03 22:48:53 Citera Svara Have it from the developer. The 4-3-2-1 manager points for winning/drawing is only true when the team strength is equal. I'm sure the no.1 manager on this game can also verify this.

If I act like stupid, it's just because I want you to understand me. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-03-03 23:20:18 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-03 23:35:16 Citera Svara SS is correct, its all about the comparison (as I am sure sleeping bear would agree ) between the teams. But its not just for ranking either. Its form too. When I had Prima I could tell which areas of the team would have negative form after a match before looking at team.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-03-07 10:48:53 Citera Svara http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scr18974f.jpg Surely a 27y/o can't double jump? of course he won't but that's pretty high avg form I just noticed he had.... until looking at that screenshot I'd never noticed the hulk symbol as tough.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-03-15 22:37:09 Citera Svara dunno if you read my PR, to put it short my team managed to score amazing 2 goals so far, current low in the entire C24. here are some numbers: 6 games, 2 goals, 22 chances, 9% conversion rate, on the other hand my offense has an average rating of 9, second best, and my attackers managed to score total of 0(zero) goals! anyone has an idea? any feedback appreciated Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-15 23:50:10 Citera Svara Wow! that is shocking to see.. I don't know really why you're not scoring but it could be just the teams have really strong defenses. Only thing i can think of. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-16 12:01:50 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Mistra dunno if you read my PR, to put it short my team managed to score amazing 2 goals so far, current low in the entire C24. here are some numbers: 6 games, 2 goals, 22 chances, 9% conversion rate, on the other hand my offense has an average rating of 9, second best, and my attackers managed to score total of 0(zero) goals! anyone has an idea? any feedback appreciated Quit your complaining! You're not in relegation and you'll probably put about 5 past me later!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-03-16 15:37:15 Citera Svara See, Stop your whinging!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-03-16 15:52:34 Citera Svara haha, I had to make sure they take me seriously, on top of that I marked your goalie, it was about time they start scoring... 5 chances, 4 goals, all of them scored by my forwards, and match rating of 16! about fuckin time Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-16 15:54:13 Citera Svara what was your win bonus?

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Svara 250 000, no greedy players though...but I reckon it would have been the same, even if I used 50 000 Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-16 16:36:43 Citera Svara Alright cocky spunker! I let you win coss I felt sorry for you and your whinging ways!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-03-16 17:02:15 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Saint_Ash_PR Always happens, as soon as I start thinking on development and resign my self to the fact of relegation a few points start popping up and I think I might have a chance to get out. you started thinking about winning again and getting out of the relegation zone and that's no way to collect points so I let you lose in order for you to start winning again no need to thank me though Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-18 19:25:11 Citera Svara I got this from my brother, Do you agree with how to play the refs or are there some inaccuracies with it? Referees

A lot of you asked how to play a referee, and often do not know. We have to mention that there are many variations, but for me these variations have borne fruit very often. I will use Skill (skill) and Harshness (strictly) We have: S1 H2 - Cheating YES, NO Offside S1 H8 - Cheating YES, NO Offside, is probably the best referee for cheating S2 H8 - Cheating Yes, NO Offside S2 H9 - Cheating YES, NO Offside S3 H3 - Cheating YES, NO Offside S4 H2 - Cheating YES, NO Offside S4 H4 - Cheating YES, NO Offside S5 H3 - Cheating YES, NO Offside S5 H5 - Cheating YES, YES Offside - there are risks when you play both, I advice you to play both at home, none or only cheating away. S5 H6 - Cheating YES, YES Offside - there are risks when you play both, I advice you to play both at home, none or only cheating away. S5 H9 - Cheating YES, YES Offside - there are risks when you play both, I advice you to play offside at home, none or only offside away. S6 H4 - Cheating YES, YES Offside - there are risks when you play both, I advice you to play both at home, none or only cheating away. S6 H6 - Cheating NO, YES Offside S6 H9 - Cheating NO, YES Offside - many consider that it goes cheating if you have cheaters in your team. S7 H2 - Cheating NO, YES Offside - I personally play offside at home and none away. S8 H2 - Cheating NO, YES Offside - like the S7 H2 S8 H6 - Cheating NO, YES Offside S9 H2 - Cheating NO, YES Offside S9 H5 - Cheating NO, YES Offside S9 H9 - Cheating NO, YES Offside Refs for Careful: S1 H8 S2 H8 S2 H9, generally those who have little S and H large Refs for Bruise: I advice you to play this tactic only when your opponents doesn't have a good freekick taker, S2 H1, S4 H2, S3 H3, and both S and H to be small. Refs for Normal - the rest of them. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2009-03-18 19:32:55 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-18 19:34:01 Citera Svara These look like Blu's values... I think you can make an argument for most if not all being a good choice - though for me personally I don't use cheat as much as listed above and more emphasis on offsides with middle refs in particular, I don't use both with any refs, is usually favours offside traps or none.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17

Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-03-18 20:19:35 Citera Svara Is your brother Sinik? Blu helped out with the final translation of this whic he posted in both of his league. I then posted it in Euroxtreme and possibly Euro's league. Its quite old now and does not contain the new refs. Having done some research i would say that you can definately cheat more (ie with higher S values refs) at home than you would away.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-03-18 20:24:36 Citera Svara No, my brother is Systemize Yeah, I found that interesting about home and away. I've never considered that really until i read this. Flytta till verst p sidan Nando19 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Nando19] Blev medlem: 2007-08-13 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2009-03-18 23:17:06 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-18 23:20:46 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: SmokinAces S4 H4 - Cheating YES, NO Offside S5 H3 - Cheating YES, NO Offside S5 H5 - Cheating YES, YES Offside - there are risks when you play both, I advice you to play both at home, none or only cheating away. S5 H6 - Cheating YES, YES Offside - there are risks when you play both, I advice you to play both at home, none or only cheating away. S6 H4 - Cheating YES, YES Offside - there are risks when you play both, I advice you to play both at home, none or only cheating away. S6 H6 - Cheating NO, YES Offside S7 H2 - Cheating NO, YES Offside - I personally play offside at home and none away.

I'd only consider some of those options under certain circumstances and would never use offside traps with refs S5 H5, S6 H4, etc. Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Nando19 Skrivet: 2009-03-19 02:18:16 Citera Svara I would useally use offside traps with a S6 H4 ref. S5 H5 isnt as clear cut and you can make a argument both for and against, it depends on the situation. Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-03-19 02:19:35 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster though for me personally I don't use cheat as much as listed above and more emphasis on offsides with middle refs in particular, I don't use both with any refs, is usually favours offside traps or none. Agreed, exactly the same in my case. Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-03-22 21:38:04 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-22 21:39:16 Citera Svara had an interesting game today with one of my private teams, thought of posting match report considering the previous topic and while i am at it feel free to criticize my tactics: 4-5-1 << Formation >> 3-4-3 Offensive << Playing style >> Very defensive Long range shots << Offence >> Varied Tighten the wings << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> Yes No << Pressure >> Yes

No << Offside traps >> Yes Yes << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Achiles Vallas << Playmaker >> Alexandre Pato Per-Elvis Torell << Tightly marked >> Aslan Narnijski Aleksandr Skrinjar << Captain >> Gianni Rivera referee is S6 H3, me on the right, lost 3-1, interesting part were 2 yellow cards + 1 red card for me, + freekick for him from which he scored, all that with 0 cheaters in his team, what do you think of this? coincidence? and if anyone has any advice regarding my tactics, didn't expect to win to tell you the truth, had much weaker team + problems with av. age +TW values for attack are shit, but if there was anything i could have done differently feel free edit: 0 tough players in my team Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-22 22:24:59 Citera Svara got a match link?

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-03-22 22:26:06 Citera Svara sure, here you go: http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6730223&dh=4 Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-22 22:57:33 Citera Svara

You did what you could and i would have gone defensive rather than very defensive which limited you to 1 shot in the match. With your teamwork values for up front at 12 you did well to score. The problem was creation, rather than finishing, especially as your average age for MF+F was 23.4. At the end of the first half it was 1 shot and one goal each and he murdered you in the second half. Perhaps not playing pressure might have prevented the third goal. It looks like you really got 3 yellow cards with the one player getting 2 leading to a red card. As far as i am aware you don't need cheaters in your team to effectively cheat and as a 6-3 ref and at home he was just within the boundaries for cheating at home. I will quite happily cheat on a 5-7 ref at home but would not dare if I was away. I don't think having any tough players would have made any difference. Very defensive+low average age for mid and forwards meant you got pumped.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-22 23:09:19 Citera Svara damn, teamwork up front is trash...but basil is dead on; didn't create enough chances in midfield and he ended up running over you as a result.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-03-22 23:15:05 Citera Svara 5min before the game I changed it to V. Def, opted for it due to big margin in skill and 343 away, but like you said defensive might have been a better option, guess I should have taken a bigger risk considering his goalie and the fact I man marked him... I agree with you that you don't need cheaters to effectively cheat but they do help if you have them,..thanks for the feedback Basil Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra]

Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-23 01:03:23 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-23 01:04:13 Citera Svara some info regarding the new features I got a hold of, Big Man's to-do list: [empty quote] few things are very interesting imo, #8, #9 and #10, and #8 in particular imo, will be interesting to see how will all this turn out, but #8 could mean one whole new thing, end of the world as we know it ...any thoughts? edit: i would appreciate if this is not copy-pasted around Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-23 01:12:26 Citera Svara Who you paying for this info Misty? And what's the faces? new smileys. > > No morale on the horizion.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-03-23 01:14:44 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-23 01:15:28 Citera Svara Fuck # 9. seriously that would be bullshit, training doesn't need to be tampered with, we get enough god damn injuries as is. I don't get the ME + Avg. Form? How would that work i wonder. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: SmokinAces

Skrivet: 2009-03-23 01:16:08 Citera Svara whats been the point in rehab training if we go back to training in injuries.

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... 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ... Frfattare Meddelande Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-03-23 01:20:02 Citera Svara i think faces would be like the ones they do on hattrick if you are vip....and a waste of time.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-03-23 01:22:08 Citera Svara Yeah, I don't care what my players looks like. Unless i have a womans team and they can be naked! Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2009-03-23 01:32:50 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-23 01:35:16 Citera Svara I think that some of the injuries will come as events in this case, not during proper training, but during "training" if you get what i mean, frequency of injuries would stay the same, but in this case subs would pick some too and not only starting-11 players, which is good imo, very good, chances of picking an injury during the match will decrease Flytta till verst p sidan Slump [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-03-01 Svar till: Mistra

Skrivet: 2009-03-23 08:34:28 Citera Svara Would presume match injuries would decrease like you say if this was implemented, but we already get 'training' injuries when players pull a muscle rescuring a cat from a tree, or dropping a tin of pinepples on their foot, or other odd Inbox messages. Merging ME and av.form is the big one there for me, could change a lot depending on exactly what it means! Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Slump Skrivet: 2009-03-23 09:36:23 Citera Svara Got No problem with injuries after the match if it was going to happen during the match anyway, means the players finish the game then find out they have an injury later.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-23 11:34:27 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Mistra [empty quote] Well, I don't really think faces will add much. Setting tactics for multiple matches looks a great idea - the lack of a holiday mode and not wanting to risk a sitter does suck quite a bit. I'm not sure whether "injuries in training" explicitly means injuries caused by the use of the paid training itself, or just injuries outside of matches. It helps out teams that are playing 2 / 3 matches a week and, if it provides extra impetus to play in the cup, then that can only be a good thing, IMO. Interested to see how planned subs would work and the connotations for ME.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem:

2007-08-17 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-03-23 14:17:35 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn I'm not sure whether "injuries in training" explicitly means injuries caused by the use of the paid training itself, I'm pretty sure it wont be like that Ursprungligen postat av: Slump but we already get 'training' injuries when players pull a muscle rescuring a cat from a tree, or dropping a tin of pinepples on their foot, or other odd Inbox messages. Merging ME and av.form is the big one there for me, could change a lot depending on exactly what it means! yes we have it, but I can't remember last time I got something like that, although I'm pretty sure Alex can agree with you about merging ME and AF in one, it could totally change things Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-23 15:27:17 Citera Svara Thing is, Av form and ME are two totally seperate things, I can't see how they can be merged!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-03-23 16:11:34 Citera Svara 4-3-3 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Defensive Wing plays << Offence >> Through plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal

Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> No Yes << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes None << Playmaker >> Boris Cichon Boris Cichon << Tightly marked >> Bengt-Gran Lange Tito Santi << Captain >> Michael Caine me on the left, Blu on the right, referee S6 H4 http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6714320&dh=4 Blu completely destroyed me, and I find it a bit strange considering my tactics, not that I'm saying that my tactics were perfect but I would expect more from it... can anyone give me few reasons why we were totally annihilated in this game? we were run over by Blu's midfield? playing offside traps was a bad call? Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-23 16:34:30 Citera Svara Again creation is your main problem. You stuck 3 up front but he nailed your playmaker meaning that your oppertunities were much fewer. He owned the midfield and got 3 players on the x11 including captain.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan BenWalker7 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-06-30 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-23 16:36:30 Citera Svara Only advice I can give you mate (from personal experince) if your going to play 433 at home vs a team simular skill to yours play normal as 433 is already an attcking formation same for 352 and 343 etc... Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: BenWalker7

Skrivet: 2009-03-23 16:42:42 Citera Svara 3-5-2 defensive and very defensive seems to be the dogs bollocks!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-03-23 16:45:22 Uppdaterat: 2009-03-23 16:49:45 Citera Svara Basil, it's other way around, I nailed his playmaker, and I admit, his midfield was superb today, but then again: I nailed his playmaker, Blu man-marked player I didn't use, I played LB to overcome his midfield, played 3 up front who were much better than his 3 defenders, my defenders played very good today, his player was sent-off (marginal player I agree and attacker, but nevertheless) so he was with 10 players and yet he managed to score twice, I played home, used 250k win bonus... I'm not saying that my tactics were superb and i agree that Blu's midfield kicked-ass today, call me a sore loser but i still can't accept the chances ratio Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: BenWalker7 Skrivet: 2009-03-23 16:48:04 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: BenWalker7 Only advice I can give you mate (from personal experince) if your going to play 433 at home vs a team simular skill to yours play normal as 433 is already an attcking formation same for 352 and 343 etc... usually I play normal, but he had only one decent striker and all of my defenders were in a good form + i wanted to take advantage of my 3 forwards vs. his 3 defenders Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-03-23 17:08:30

Citera Svara His midfield was just too good today. I think if you went with the 442 longballs and played normal that you could have gotten the result. Tough break tho, probably shouldn't have lost with that tactics board and being at home, especially with the player sent off.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-03-28 15:06:11 Citera Svara Anyone else noticed Chrille is up to 5= in worldwide rank today, but has never played anything but 352 with his Mr Madness team? wtf is that all about? Think I may buy his match reports and set myself up to do the same with my Xpert team next season

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Waynederanged [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Waynederanged] Blev medlem: 2006-08-17 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-03-28 15:19:13 Citera Svara That's a typical Chrille team! When I was in Super League I noticed fan75 was always quite highly ranked with FK Serbia and always played 3-5-2. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-03-28 18:21:14 Citera

Svara This isn't anything new, really. Blu did this and got to 5th as well I believe.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Patongniakos [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Patongniakos] Blev medlem: 2006-08-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-03-30 23:51:18 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster I have something i ant to ask everyone. What's your feelings on the proposed morale changes etc.. by iwe? Time sure flies. Almost 1 year ago. Not much happened. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Patongniakos Skrivet: 2009-04-03 12:34:58 Citera Svara What's peoples views on skill and form? Bit of a dilemma for the weekend, I have a few decent players on shit form but less decent players on better form. Main dilemma is 10 skill mid (23yrs) with 8 form or 8 skill mid (20 yrs) with 19 form. Another important factor is that the ref is Tony Nolan (9,9) and the 20/8 mid has cheat and talks too much. Obviously I won't play cheat but is it ingrained? Also I don't want him being sent off for being a loudmouth cock.

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... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ... Frfattare Meddelande SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-04-04 18:22:13 Citera Svara Don't know if the games passed for you Ash but I think the 10 skill will still perform to a 10 skill and the 20 yr old will prolly play to a 10 as well. If it don't hurt your avg. age then maybe the 8 skill. Flytta till verst p sidan

Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2009-04-06 18:31:15 Citera Svara Teamwork. http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6870334&dh=4 What do you make of the teamwork values for this defence? the league isn't really based on competition so delayed building any sort of team, but got sick of the 5skills and decided to buy a new (average) defence, played the 4 of them together today - first game for all four players, but was bemused to see they came out with 15 overall TWV..... so what's the morning glory here? just lucky and selected 4 players who clicked on the scale straight away or is it not such a suprise. *Note keeper is a diva too.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-04-06 20:33:32 Citera Svara It is a suprise when the rest of your team didn't have TWV over 10. It's strange though, I revamped my whole team in VEEP too and looked at my TWV everything looked like i thought it would but in offense i had a TWV of 19. Is that normal? http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6870285&dh=4 Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2009-04-08 13:02:42 Uppdaterat: 2009-04-08 13:05:54 Citera Svara That's a little fortunate but, then again, it is only two of your four strikers. Mind, I've found teamwork is a strange beast, having had one of my defences drop from 13 to 8 before now.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-04-14 18:49:47 Citera Svara Mine are upto 16 TMV after a few games, I don't think that's realistic, but then like you say it ain't half a strange thing to work out is the teamwork, oh well.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-04-14 18:56:14 Citera Svara Looking for some info on the S3-H5 Ref doe's anyone else find this ref value the most frustrating of all? and if anyone has the time at some point can they post the number of cards they pick up with & without the use of cheat when you face this ref. The number of cards they issue is shite when using cheat, I stopped using cheat with that value in the official lges a while back, but still use it in priv lges the odd time out of interest.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-04-15 12:40:22

Citera Svara Cheated with an S3, H5 on Sunday with my Pythons team - my opponent opted not to. One booking each.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Nando19 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Nando19] Blev medlem: 2007-08-13 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-04-15 13:20:28 Citera Svara Here you go: http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6714364&dh=4 Both teams played cheat. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Nando19 Skrivet: 2009-04-20 18:28:26 Citera Svara Cheers lads. Had 3/5 ref against Sherwyn today, I avoided cheat he used it, no bookings, and I honestley think that's the first time i've avoided a booking with my least favourite ref.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Waynederanged [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Waynederanged] Blev medlem: 2006-08-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-04-20 19:44:08 Citera Svara

In my game with This is Anfield today: Ref Travis Tee S6 H4 Both played normal, Oli played cheat, I didn't. 3 yellows and a straight red for me nothing for Oli. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Waynederanged Skrivet: 2009-04-20 22:37:36 Citera Svara Ouch! As Cleveland would put it... Thats nasty!!

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Waynederanged Skrivet: 2009-04-20 23:32:30 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Waynederanged In my game with This is Anfield today: Ref Travis Tee S6 H4 Both played normal, Oli played cheat, I didn't. 3 yellows and a straight red for me nothing for Oli. which IMO shows the difference between home and away. there is definitely a difference. i would play cheat right up to a 7/5 ref if i was at home. the only way to counter it is to play careful

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Flytta till verst p sidan Waynederanged [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Waynederanged] Blev medlem: 2006-08-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-04-22 16:18:01 Citera Svara When I started on X11 and moaned at being beaten by a high-skilled incredibly old team I was told that old players were less likely to retire if there were several other oldies in the team. Is there any truth in this do you think, or was it a load of pony? Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Waynederanged Skrivet: 2009-04-22 17:44:34 Citera Svara I reckon it's pony, way I see it is individual rather than team based.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Waynederanged [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Waynederanged] Blev medlem: 2006-08-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-04-22 18:01:38 Citera Svara I thought that as well but he did have a couple of 38s and a 39 as well as some lower thirties. Just coincidence I suppose.

Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Waynederanged Skrivet: 2009-04-28 10:56:27 Uppdaterat: 2009-04-28 10:58:10

Citera Svara LOL went out of the cup today. I was up 3-1 put then he did 3 goals between minute 85 and 89 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-04-28 11:01:27 Citera Svara ----> OuCh!!! Pressure? Shoot the keeper!

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-04-28 11:13:26 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster ----> OuCh!!! Pressure? Shoot the keeper! Yeah pressure. My usual keeper is injured thats why I had to put this idiot in the lineup. But he will be taken care off. I knew it was going to a hard match to win but to lose like this. Thats just sick. I didnt wach it live, thank god, would have had a heart attack or something. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster]

Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-04-28 11:31:59 Citera Svara You wouldn't have a screen to post this had you watched it live. That is harsh, BUT shows how important an established keeper is. I need to bear this in mind too when using certain formations/playing styles with my xpert team, which i'm learning the hard way atm.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-04-28 11:39:29 Citera Svara Yeah, I was thinking about going 451 instead of the cautious 352 i finally choose so I would have a stronger defense. But I had used 451 in my last 3-4 cup games so I thought he would be prepared for that formation. I also only had 4 defenders availiable due to red cards (no allround players). To have a good keeper is cruicial. Since my keeper got injured Ive lost two in a row. Before I had like 13 straight wins or something.

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... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ... Frfattare Meddelande Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-04-28 11:44:01 Citera Svara His 3 strikers against you 3 def coupled with your pressure ended up too much for the young keeper eh!!.... exciting game all the same, you'll need to put that top 10 on hold for now.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-04-28 12:24:20 Citera Svara

Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster His 3 strikers against you 3 def coupled with your pressure ended up too much for the young keeper eh!!.... exciting game all the same, you'll need to put that top 10 on hold for now. Didnt think he would go for 433 since he only had 3 strikers and in his last game he played one of them as a defender. Couldnt expect to win the game with my tactics to be honest but to lose in this way aint fun. Top ten might be possible, depending on my cycle compared to the others. Last time I made top 10 I only had one game a week. But its unlikely. Will probably have to wait until next season And one more to get into XCL and the top spot. Or I have to do a Chrille but thats no fun.

Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-04-28 13:36:48 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: PrinceCharming77 To have a good keeper is cruicial. Since my keeper got injured Ive lost two in a row. Before I had like 13 straight wins or something. It really is...in the top divs there are tons of teams with crappy managers and average teams, but have a 14+ skill GK that keeps them alive. When they play a blinder you can't win... That just annoys me to no end.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-04-28 14:01:49 Citera Svara Especially if they are moody. Isn't that right Doc

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We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-04-28 19:00:33 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Colinzink It really is...in the top divs there are tons of teams with crappy managers and average teams, but have a 14+ skill GK that keeps them alive. When they play a blinder you can't win... That just annoys me to no end. Yeah for real, I think i was in division 3 and a team had one the best GK's i believe he was 14 or 15 but we got a win and a draw i was shocked! Now i can't even get a damn goal in my xpert league against a 10 skill GK. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: SmokinAces Skrivet: 2009-04-28 19:06:29 Citera Svara yeah, saw that u were not doing so hot and that was the first thing I checked; sorted by skill and by keeper and saw u miles behind....

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-04-29 01:00:29 Citera Svara Yeah Col, it's definitely been a challenge this season. Injuries has been a major problem for me cause I believe my tactics have been decent in my opinion, its just the other teams always outperform me in skill and i get over powered everytime. I'm lucky to still be close enough to get out of relegation so thats what i'm aiming for.

Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-05-03 16:48:56 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Colinzink It really is...in the top divs there are tons of teams with crappy managers and average teams, but have a 14+ skill GK that keeps them alive. When they play a blinder you can't win... That just annoys me to no end. Poor managers with highly skilled keepers is rather annoying indeed. What do you all think about buying a player with the intention to have them jump then sell [private leagues cause you can obviously just farm in official]? What do you think an optimum age/skill is? I'm thinking 19/5, I'm also thinking whether a keeper would be a better choice as they achieve ME at a quicker speed. Opinions?

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-05-03 17:24:50 Citera Svara If they're young ME should be pretty straight foward regardless. I reckon 19/5 is the worst age bracket for the seller, if you can get them to 20/6^ then that's better. A league like this (quick) is decent to buy/sell.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!]

[Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-05-03 17:26:36 Uppdaterat: 2009-05-03 17:28:18 Citera Svara ..........

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-05-03 17:27:38 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster If they're young ME should be pretty straight foward regardless. I reckon 19/5 is the worst age bracket for the seller, if you can get them to 20/6^ then that's better. A league like this (quick) is decent to buy/sell. 19/5 sounds good. I'm thinking of picking up one for my NJS side as a temporary cash cow with an SQ to sell on. I did the same with an 18/4 forward with FK + header, purchased him for 1m, sold him as a 19/5 the following season for 3.7m or so, and he joined quite late on in the season as well. I love 6 team leagues so I generally develop my strategies for these kinds of leagues.

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I'm looking for a cricket score against an unmanaged team (default tactics, 442 normal/varied/normal) with my Xpert side but I don't think I've ever played very offensive - and certainly not with 343. http://www.xperteleven.com/compareTeam.aspx?ATEAMID=129198&BTEAMID=388179&dh=1 Is offensive enough or too much, else can someone with experience of playing very offensive advise whether they'd go this route here. I'm playing one youth in midfield and one upfront so to increase performance I'm bruising and 150k wb. Welcome any thoughts. Cheers.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-05-06 08:51:45 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS I'm looking for a cricket score against an unmanaged team (default tactics, 442 normal/varied/normal) with my Xpert side but I don't think I've ever played very offensive - and certainly not with 343. http://www.xperteleven.com/compareTeam.aspx?ATEAMID=129198&BTEAMID=388179&dh=1 Is offensive enough or too much, else can someone with experience of playing very offensive advise whether they'd go this route here. I'm playing one youth in midfield and one upfront so to increase performance I'm bruising and 150k wb. Welcome any thoughts. Cheers. Hmm. http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=5208992&dh=3 It's not 3-4-3 but 4-3-3 isn't far off. I went Very Offensive in this game and as you can see I scored 9. I think the onus is on whether you think their tactics are SO poor that they will make 0 chances. If so, definitely go for it as you have nothing to lose. Although the strength deficit in your favour means I reckon you can get away with it anyway in all honesty.

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Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-05-06 09:38:54 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Basilbrush303 Especially if they are moody. Isn't that right Doc damn right there basil old mate.... KnightHawks have a couple of the main ingredients needed for success.. 1. Top Keeper 2. Great free kick taker. 3. Decent defenders (at least 3 required, 4 is better) We need some more depth in midfield and some new strikers Oh yeah... and then we need a manager that can actually work out tactics... I think i could do with some honest input on forward planning for KH... Any takers??? The division is as tight as a nuns chuff thats for sure.... Doc

"If at first you dont succeed.... Do a flugelfish" Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-05-06 17:23:58 Citera Svara V Off is the shitest playing style on this game, offensive is attacking enough regardless of the state of a team imo.

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My Xpert team finally lost (2-0) their unbeaten league record today after a 38 game streak (last defeat 1st August '08). Terrible way to go to a team with 11 form, no wb and 442 NVN. 4-4-2 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Normal << Playing style >> Normal Varied << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No No << Win bonus >> Yes Charles Thomas << Playmaker >> Pra Tantasatityanon Anders Engstrm << Tightly marked >> Charles Thomas Declan Kilbane << Captain >> Antonino Pagliarini ...probably inevitable as my opponent hadn't won for 16 games either

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-05-16 09:30:53 Uppdaterat: 2009-05-16 09:34:09 Citera Svara Preference against opponent playing offensive 343 with pressure on neutral ground? I like 433 normal long balls, but there seems to be a ton of options...

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-05-16 18:39:28 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS My Xpert team finally lost (2-0) their unbeaten league record today after a 38 game streak (last defeat 1st August '08).

Terrible way to go to a team with 11 form, no wb and 442 NVN. 4-4-2 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Normal << Playing style >> Normal Varied << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No No << Win bonus >> Yes Charles Thomas << Playmaker >> Pra Tantasatityanon Anders Engstrm << Tightly marked >> Charles Thomas Declan Kilbane << Captain >> Antonino Pagliarini ...probably inevitable as my opponent hadn't won for 16 games either Very harsh IMO GB. Coincidentally FC Rox in your league began supporting me..

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan SmokinAces [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2007-05-19 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-05-16 21:40:04 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS Preference against opponent playing offensive 343 with pressure on neutral ground? I like 433 normal long balls, but there seems to be a ton of options... I've always had good results playing 442 against a 343, but i haven't played against that formation in quite awhile. I would guess 433 would be ideal though. I'm not a fan of 433 to be honest. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-05-19 00:36:36 Citera Svara Am I too late? Appear to have overlooked this post.

4-3-3 LB seems good to me as well.

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Please help African orphans by sponsoring me to climb Kilimanjaro at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/RobertTreweek Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Doomonyouall Skrivet: 2009-07-24 07:48:28 Citera Svara Well as this thread has been bumped I might as well use it. I have a question about when to cheat and when to play careful or Bruise. I like to play cheat again a Bruise, and careful against cheat, I think they work well with the right ref value. But there is no point playing cheat against a 1,1 ref and thinking it will work. So do you think you should play the ref values or do you set up against your opponent? Or does this change depending on the ref values? Is it just a matter of knowing the ref values like offside is, or is there more to these tactics like what your opponent is playing? Personally when setting tactics, I will always try and buy a report with the ref value in it. I will then decide if I should change from the ideal values depending on what I think the opponent will play and the ref value. For example a 3,3 ref and my oppoent is playing Bruise Cheat, I will counter with Normal Cheat. What's everybodies thoughts?

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-07-24 10:58:23 Citera Svara Why not play cheat with a 1,1 ref? He's thick as shit and you won't get a booking for your diving!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-07-24 11:07:58 Uppdaterat: 2009-07-24 11:17:38 Citera Svara He wont give a free kick for your diving either. EDIT: I think you should play cheat against a 1,1, but I don't think it matters too much. Like predicting somebody's formation when the play it every week doesn't have as much of an affect as predicting a new formation out of the blue.

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-07-24 11:49:44 Citera Svara This is something I will try to figure out in the next couple of days and I would love to get some input. I will be playing a very important game on saturday. My opponent is a little stronger than me. I played him to a draw in a away game last week and this time Im at home. The ref is S2H1 I have a lot of cheats in my team (5-6 in my starting lineup) He has a very good freekicker (three bars better than my keeper) Ive heard that Ill have a advantage with the ref since Im at home. Dont know if thats correct though. I will play cheat since I have a lot of that kind of players but do you think I should play bruise? I never do that but this is a very important game and I need all the advantages I can get but I cant afford to give him freekicks. What to do? Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21

Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-07-24 12:00:16 Citera Svara Wooo, that's a good un to figure out. I would definately cheat, but I suppose the question is to whether bruise or not. You could always mark the free kicker and bruise and hope to injure him (in a nice way) Must be Charlie Fender, he is the softest ref so you might not concede too many free kicks but with a monster of a free kick taker you only need 2 or 3 attempts and you could be screwed!

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-07-24 16:11:36 Citera Svara Well. Ive been thinking about marking his FK, GK or his PM. Just cant decide. Ill be meeting the same team on tuesday in the cup so if i injure one of them it would be great. None of my players are injury prone so thats good. His GK:s has a average form of 18 so it will be hard to score on his number one keeper (last game was 0-0). My keeper is S13 and his FK is S17 (and has scored almost 40% of his goals this season) Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-07-24 16:18:20 Citera Svara prob best not to bruise then if he's got a monster like that. I would prob mark him though as it should reduce his skill a bit.

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2008-01-18 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-08-03 16:35:32 Citera Svara I don't get this one at all, not even a little bit... http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7140438&dh=4 3-5-2 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Normal << Playing style >> Normal Through plays << Offence >> Through plays Normal << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> No Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Alan Beardsley << Playmaker >> Hlynur Steinsson None << Tightly marked >> Ciprian Marica Ciprian Marica << Captain >> Disnadda Hitapot I am so fucking shit in VEEP this season it is ridiculous and this is just the latest in a long line of rubbish results.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-08-03 17:24:12 Citera Svara I would have done a couple of things differently perhaps, but you should have won that one regardless. Its strange that the possession was 51-49 and he won the chances. With 5 in the mid, home pitch and pressure you should have owned possession. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-08-03 17:29:13 Citera Svara yeah, normal varied normal was the call the last 3 matches and no prep on 352 on past usage so I felt safe using it, also

no PM so a few things changed on me but surely a loss with those player ratings is taking the piss.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-08-27 22:11:15 Uppdaterat: 2009-08-27 22:11:32 Citera Svara Ok, ladies and gents. My next opponent in the xpert leagues uses a normal defence in every match and he has a slew of headers in his squad so normally I would be all over thru plays...but I have Tony Nolan for the FOURTH time in a row this season and when he is the ref I usually prefer to rock out wing plays... So, do u think I should still go with thru plays, or does the impact of Nolan outweigh the SQ bonanza? Here's the team I am playing against: http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=135342&Boost=0&dh=1

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-08-28 01:28:11 Citera Svara Does your opponent look au fait avec les refs? Take that answer, and the opposite is whether you should play a la through.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11

Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-08-28 01:29:31 Citera Svara Wouldn't have a problem using through plays regardless of Nolan if it was a good attacking option for a particular game. Are you using 4-5-1?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-08-28 02:17:24 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Are you using 4-5-1? I wasn't planning on it as it isn't particularly a good option for me. If u look at my side, a 433 would be a sneaky formation to use with Ansved up front, but I just did that against the Roar and won so I am a bit shy to use it again. He has used the 451 in all of the last 3 matches, but an injury makes that an unfavorable formation for him...he might still force it in tho so it is making me a bit nervous; if he was a better manager i would be more inclined to prep the 442 and take that gamble but I am uncertain.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-08-28 02:18:43 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn Does your opponent look au fait avec les refs? Take that answer, and the opposite is whether you should play a la through.

what... I'm too dumb for riddles.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan _angst_ [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [_angst_] Blev medlem: 2006-08-23 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-08-28 02:25:27 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Colinzink what... I'm too dumb for riddles. I'm no French riddle solver but I think he's asking you if you're opponent plays on the ref. And the answer to that question will help you solve the task at hand.

"I've seen the future baby, it is murder" Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: _angst_ Skrivet: 2009-08-28 02:34:19 Citera Svara ah, of course...and I bought his last 9,9 report...cheated with no traps. Thru plays it is!

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[_angst_] Blev medlem: 2006-08-23 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-08-28 02:35:22 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Colinzink ah, of course...and I bought his last 9,9 report...cheated with no traps. Thru plays it is! We would be one awesome francophone detective team!

"I've seen the future baby, it is murder" Flytta till verst p sidan Stevejohnston [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Stevejohnston] Blev medlem: 2008-09-18 Svar till: _angst_ Skrivet: 2009-08-30 12:48:13 Citera Svara Any one got any ideas for my xpert playoff against a stronger team with a monster fk'er and a S4 H8 ref?, was thinking cautious, careful and no cheat, but dont know if thats just just gonna help me get even more battered Flytta till verst p sidan ... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ...

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... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ... Frfattare Meddelande Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Stevejohnston Skrivet: 2009-08-30 13:25:05 Citera Svara did you check how he plays that ref? does he cheat, what's his aggression? anyway, i would probably play normal, and no cheat. imo careful would be like a white flag against that team, so i would rather take my chances with the ref, rather than being handicapped for 90 minutes Flytta till verst p sidan Stevejohnston [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Stevejohnston] Blev medlem: 2008-09-18 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2009-08-30 13:49:09 Uppdaterat: 2009-08-30 16:19:48 Citera Svara He will definately cheat, and most likely normal aggression. I wont cheat, and couldnt decide careful or normal, edging towards normal now, thanks for the help. Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan]

[Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Stevejohnston Skrivet: 2009-09-10 02:18:59 Uppdaterat: 2009-09-10 03:01:13 Citera Svara So then, I fancy playing offsides with Frank Redkard (S4, H8). Retarded, or brilliant? Oh, it's in my Xpert league. In the last game. That will secure me a place in the top flight.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-10 02:54:45 Citera Svara I'm thinking retarded. If you believe you will seriously counter your opponent tactics wise though and his midfield sucks and your defence are awesome (haven't checked) then consider it, you could limit him to 0 chances.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-10 03:20:34 Uppdaterat: 2009-09-10 03:23:05 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn So then, I fancy playing offsides with Frank Redkard (S4, H8). Retarded, or brilliant? Oh, it's in my Xpert league. In the last game. That will secure me a place in the top flight. I would be tempted if you were also playing tighten the centre, or you were at home.

EDIT: You are at home, but it looks like he plays wingplay more judging by his stats, but you'll have a better idea. I would play it with normal or TTC, but not TTW.

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-10 08:10:13 Uppdaterat: 2009-09-10 08:11:06 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn So then, I fancy playing offsides with Frank Redkard (S4, H8). Retarded, or brilliant? I've used it to strengthen my defence/experiment a couple of times in friendlies with (4-8), didn't notice anything untowards, I think the last time me & Stash met in a friendly in Veep we both used it too. I've been thinking about offsides lately with low (s) refs - i'm going to experiment with it further from a defensive view with one of my teams, most likely Zeppelin.... My defence posted their best in here with (3) - In TCC again a couple posted their best on tuesday with (3) - I wouldn't knock anything until it's tried proper, unorthodox or not. If they'll use through play then i'd think twice.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-09-10 10:38:21 Citera Svara I think they're toying with through plays, but I've been getting a surprisingly high number of disallowed goals in my favour with (S5, H>5) and am thinking that it could work with a baby step down in skill.

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[Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-10 11:56:16 Citera Svara Disallowed goals aren't part of the chances though are they? I thought they were just put in there as random things to happen and not actually anything to do with tactics? Could be wrong though

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-10 12:32:18 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn I think they're toying with through plays, but I've been getting a surprisingly high number of disallowed goals in my favour with (S5, H>5) and am thinking that it could work with a baby step down in skill. I use it with the 5/5 at home as well.. 4/8 is too far a step for me though..

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-09-10 12:51:23 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Saint_Ash Disallowed goals aren't part of the chances though are they? I thought they were just put in there as random things to happen and not actually anything to do with tactics? Could be wrong though That is an interesting point. I presumed it was an indicator that using offsides was a good thing, though.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-10 12:54:44 Citera Svara Yeah, could be. I had a goal disallowed recently where it said "Goal disallowed, wrongly called offside" or something. I wish I could remember when and who it was though as would be interesting to see if the ref was highly skilled or not.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-10 12:57:47 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn That is an interesting point. I presumed it was an indicator that using offsides was a good thing, though. That's what I've thought as well.

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Svara Found a game where a goal was wrongly called offside and it was Constance Paine S2 H9 ref so that goes with what you were saying Rich about the offside calls. Now then, does this mean you can do offside traps with him? If a player breaks it and scores will it be called offside wrongly?

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-09-10 13:49:25 Citera Svara I don't know whether disallowed goals just pick a random sentence or are specific to the ref / situation. Checked a recent match where I went with traps with an (S5, H6). They had one disallowed (clear offside), but did get a breakaway chance later which they missed, despite them playing wing plays.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-10 14:07:24 Citera Svara Were you tightening the wings though?

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2006-03-29 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-09-10 14:33:46 Citera Svara I was normal defence.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-09-10 14:51:16 Citera Svara I used OT here against their TP and they had a goal disallowed for offside: http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7065364&dh=1 3-5-2 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Normal << Playing style >> Offensive Wing plays << Offence >> Through plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> No No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Rak Prasertchai << Playmaker >> Lars-Gran von Geijer Lars-Gran von Geijer << Tightly marked >> Dinkha Sharro Evert Ottosson << Captain >> John-Olof Lindekrantz

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I had match today won 1-0 with a s8 h6 ref we both played ofsides. Chances 2-0 to me at home but doom had one chance ruled out for a "close call" offside. So i guess a lower skilled ref would have let it slip through? or thought he was 20 yards offside and called it? Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Stevejohnston Skrivet: 2009-09-10 21:37:03 Uppdaterat: 2009-09-10 21:37:22 Citera Svara http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx? threadID=2849690&forumid=26&read=1&search=1&messageid=2876592#2876592 technically speaking no (and thanks to richard for the link in a separate thread), you would have always won 1-0. sometimes makes me wonder what the tickbox is there for, unless its just to stop an attack and we just dont know about it. ie: team 1 has an attack, is it offside yes/no, if no then proceed to shoot at goal etc, etc

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-09-12 06:32:02 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Saint_Ash Found a game where a goal was wrongly called offside and it was Constance Paine S2 H9 ref so that goes with what you were saying Rich about the offside calls. Now then, does this mean you can do offside traps with him? If a player breaks it and scores will it be called offside wrongly? This is something I've been wondering for a while. I mean, is the refs so unskilled that you get the calls whether or not you play OT, or does the ref know you're playing the offside trap and is just a bastard and doesn't like the attacking side? I'm leaning towards the first option, but I don't think OT with a 2,9 is as bad as it's made out to be.

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Svara Here's how the tactics looked with Redkard (S4, H8): 4-3-3 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Offensive Wing plays << Offence >> Through plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> Yes Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Mika Witt << Playmaker >> None Stan Vtafu << Tightly marked >> Cody Duxbury Kenny Porter << Captain >> Stan Vtafu I gibbed on offsides in the end, but my opponent went with them. The winner came from a breakaway despite using WP, and I had another breakaway disallowed after that.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Mcneilis [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mcneilis] Blev medlem: 2008-06-11 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-13 21:20:31 Uppdaterat: 2009-09-13 21:20:47 Citera Svara I'm surprised you didn't win more comfortably in the end as those tactics are very good (I wouldn't go offsides with that ref either) and the gap in team strength is quite noticeable. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2009-09-13 21:36:26 Citera Svara I was looking back on my notes, and noticed that when I win MOTW (second one) in the cup game I used both offside & cheat with the 4-8 ref.. albeit that game was the least important of the ones that win it as we were far stronger,

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Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-02 00:11:32 Citera Svara ==========================

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-02 00:12:35 Citera Svara Facing a team that'll play defensive at home.. have you faced it?? have you beat it?? have you been frustrated by it? (By being the stronger team) Or general opinion should you face it.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Mcneilis [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mcneilis] Blev medlem: 2008-06-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-02 00:27:25 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-02 00:28:12 Citera Svara Well my opinion won't be shared by too many and I think I've mentioned this on the general forums before too, but I find

that people overestimate the importance of the opponent's playing style. I wrote down in my notes all the playing styles combined with formation that I might play for home and away games, and the only other variables I considered were opponent strength/form and perhaps manager skill. It would be very rare that I'd let their playing style affect my choice, and perhaps only if they went very defensive or very offensive. That being said, if formations are equal and I'm the stronger away team, I would use a normal playing style, which would be one notch up on my typical cautious style for closer matches. Flytta till verst p sidan Roberto11x [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Roberto11x] Blev medlem: 2007-04-28 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-02 00:41:41 Citera Svara I've faced it a few times lately, mostly in VIPI where I have the strongest team. It's worth pressing the strength advatage and going normal/catious, but not with 3 at the back (I still plump for defensive/v.def) I've used def/v.def loads at home during my unbeaten run with Knights... makes for boring matches, but the results speak for themselves It's great with 3 high-skill strikers... few chances, but lots of 1-0 wins Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Mcneilis Skrivet: 2009-10-02 00:48:07 Citera Svara This is (IMO) prob the most important aspect you get correct. But... it's something that ain't clear cut.. because no matter how good you set-up.. for it to work proper you need the opponent to set-up in order for what you've done to pay-off or even have a chance to create. This area you got to anticipate what they'll use..the balance can shift by a fair bit if wrong choice is made.

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Ursprungligen postat av: Roberto11x I've used def/v.def loads at home during my unbeaten run I agree here with you, As much as it doesn't make best of sense or a draw should be more fair... Looking ahead with past results & trying to figure having stronger team (official) my notes & past games show defensive as the best counter towards Defensive/Cautious - against home team.. Normal has worst outcome & then catious is just as bad.. more so if they use cautious.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan StuartWheatley [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-06-13 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-02 00:59:36 Citera Svara Would you recommend coupling this with an attacking formation ....... or just the best formation for your squad? IME, normal away from home (with a 352/451 built side) is very effective though. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: StuartWheatley Skrivet: 2009-10-02 04:08:13 Citera Svara Playing offensive away from home can be good. One of my favourite away formations is 4-5-1 offensive. There are many situations where I am happy being the more offensive side away from home, especially if I'm stronger.

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Citera Svara I wouldn't mind 451 offensive away and you see it quite often, but the likes of 442 and 352 offensive away are risky if not a lot stronger. With my Jaa team, I've played five home matches this season, and for some reason all my opponents (four out of five are or have been top 1000 managers) have gone offensive away from home against me and we're all around the same team strength. I battered two of them 5-1 despite even chances for both sides, and most of the other matches were high scoring draws which they got lucky in. Offensive away is just too unpredictable I think, unless coupled with that defensive formation like 451 or 541. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Mcneilis Skrivet: 2009-10-03 03:27:41 Citera Svara True, I do prefer it with a defensive formation, but 4-5-1 is my favourite to go offensive away from home with. Because you can control the midfield without having a weakness, the way you would with 3-5-2 at the back. Here's an interesting prose which might be related. In my knights side, I play very offensive every match, at the halfway point in the league I'm undefeated in the league, but have failed to win in the cups (2 cup matches). Now it's only 2 matches, both matches were against better sides, and I probably fielded a more of a youth side for the cup, but is that a coinsident, or something else?

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-10-04 23:44:09 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-04 23:45:14 Citera Svara =========================================================== OK, here's a question I think is interesting... You have an opponent that has 4 midfielders/forwards in his starting 11 that have the header SQ (none have quick SQ) and he scores a whopping 65% of his goals from crosses. The curious thing is he never uses wing plays and alternates between through plays and varied. Do you tighten the wings regardless?? Edit - I am defending varied although I'm 90% he'll go through plays.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-10-05 00:18:32 Citera Svara I'd defend varied in this situation. 50-50 chance of getting him on the tactics, and if he through plays when that many headers I think he's a fool.

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan Xbytelizer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Xbytelizer] Blev medlem: 2006-03-07 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-10-08 19:16:58 Citera Svara Has anybody really unlocked the secret behind the possession stat. I must be stupid or somewhat retarded (not anything new tho) as I can't find anything useful with having more possession. It doesn't seem to correlate with the amount of chances or performance of the midfield rating wise.

You don't have to win it, just don't lose or draw it. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Xbytelizer Skrivet: 2009-10-09 19:22:44 Citera Svara It's a strange area indeed..... I think tbf it's more what you do with that possession than the deluded figure that you've controlled a match or deserve to lose because the opponent has somewhat controlled the match... So for me it's more down to the tactic played that'll decide the outcome on good chances through whatever time you have on the ball & a good tactic that'll reduce the opponent from creating a "dangerous" chance despite the overall possession the seem to

have after the game. As soon as you play LB you will 9/10 times lose possession stat... but that doesn't mean you'll lose the chances on goal or creating the better chance on goal or limit what they can do through the extra possession. On flip side, if you go into a game knowing you're going to get the extra possession then you want to play the better tactic and make that extra time on the ball count.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Xbytelizer Skrivet: 2009-10-10 00:07:47 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Xbytelizer Has anybody really unlocked the secret behind the possession stat. I must be stupid or somewhat retarded (not anything new tho) as I can't find anything useful with having more possession. It doesn't seem to correlate with the amount of chances or performance of the midfield rating wise. I have an extremely farfetched theory that playing a tactic that dominates possession is the best counter to an opponent who uses pressure, as your opponents will naturally spend more time chasing the ball.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-10-10 00:44:22 Citera Svara Is farfetched the operative word here? Idealistic games are one in a turd.

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Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-10 02:08:11 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Is farfetched the operative word here? Idealistic games are one in a turd. Very much so, I have little to support it.

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... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ... Frfattare Meddelande Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-10-15 17:03:27 Citera Svara Apologies to SC & TP for "free" reports here, but i'm a tad bemused at not creating a single chance in 2 games with stronger team & great forms in both matches, ok SC went VD but I still think the tactics should've at least created a chance or 2? and then today on paper we're 3 bars above TP's team and he only has 25 avg age yet creates 8-0 chances wtf is that all about? only thing I regret is switching to varied from WP prior to K/O but we set up nice imo against his LRS which I thought would be used & my defence forms were 17 - 18-19-17-18-18 .. but go and let in 3 goals?? both strikers had 17 form & the MF was little less hence LB. http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7462559&dh=4 4-5-1 << Formation >> 3-4-3 Very defensive << Playing style >> Defensive Through plays << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Careful No << Long balls >> Yes Yes << Pressure >> No Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Ryan J Giggs << Playmaker >> Lester Burnham None << Tightly marked >> Ian Rush Ian Rush << Captain >> Cronos Rhea Kronos http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7462585&dh=4 4-5-1 << Formation >> 5-3-2 Normal << Playing style >> Cautious Long range shots << Offence >> Varied Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> Yes Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Noel Ross << Playmaker >> Dexter Morgan

Lester Burnham << Tightly marked >> Lennox Corpe Alfonso Lorieri << Captain >> Cronos Rhea Kronos

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-15 18:42:37 Citera Svara As I told you earlier I didnt get our game either. The only major thing about your tactic is that I personally never had a good experience using both pressura and LB. Also since I knew I had to beat you to have any chance of finishing in the top two I used the full 1 million win bonus. My experience is that it doesnt really give you a lot of extra chances but rather makes the chances more efficent. My teamvalue for defence was really poor also as usual (I have two divas in defence ) Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-15 19:16:11 Citera Svara Game 1 - Extremely harsh, I'd go as far as to say those tactics were exactly how I'd have played it pre-game. In hindsight, defensive hurt you (due to SC's mentality), and LB was potentially not needed, but to make no chances is harsh. Game 2 - TP went in sitting high and mighty here, 4-5-1 LRS against 5-3-2.. perfect matchup IMO, in addition, you pressured, from my experience, pressuring with 2 less in midfield (and in addition, a weaker midfield) screws you over big time, 8-0 chances wise is probably harsh considering you did prep for the LRS, but it's a good matchup. Pressure was the nail in the coffin, here is a good example I have where ticking pressure instead of long balls (I know you ticked both, but I don't have an example of that in memory ). http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6685810&dh=1 3-5-2 << Formation >> 4-3-3 Cautious << Playing style >> Cautious Varied << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No

No << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Povel Nordahl << Playmaker >> Rak Prasertchai Isak Demian << Tightly marked >> Povel Nordahl Brian Silver << Captain >> Isak Demian Yet I got spanked on chances.. never been that effective for me. I'd say game 1 is extremely harsh, game 2 doesn't tell the true story of the match from the scoreline but TP did well IMO.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan SpaceChicken [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-09-03 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-10-15 23:57:22 Citera Svara duff you bottled the first game by going defensive i had poor form and injuries no choice but to go for the shutdown Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: SpaceChicken Skrivet: 2009-10-16 01:50:06 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Bejjita Pressure was the nail in the coffin, TP was using LRS - that was my first choice (Pressure) and would be everytime if we could re-run it.. I don't buy it was the difference, besides if any team can cope with using pressure it's mine, but appreciate your opinion. Prince... Had a feeling you had high WB (ratings) We had 200k - cheers for that info, can see why you win.. but still 8-0 chances is amusing imo... oh well. Ursprungligen postat av: SpaceChicken duff you bottled the first game by going defensive i had poor form and injuries no choice but to go for the shutdown Bottled it?

You play 451 VD yet we bottle it, That's one hell of LOL Chicken. You had 1 injury? form wasn't great, but.. still it was 14 overall in-game, so it wasn't shocking either & home advantage. I would've went cautious but noted you down as offensive (home), that was a fair guess, it was only a week before game you were saying to GB about teams that "bottle" offensive in the scrabble, so our defensive "would've" worked better with the attacking formation had you went what I anticipated.. was a suprise to see VD. No worries shit happens.. guess I felt like a whine this time.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-16 01:56:37 Citera Svara If it makes more sense, it's not so much the fact you used pressure (which was correct), it's more the 5-3-2 coupled with pressure that I think was the factor.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-10-16 02:08:06 Citera Svara Yeah mate I did get what you said, but it's not my experience of that formation with pressure & something i'm comfortable using for sure. Besides.. it's what I used last time we met. (away) http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7335300&dh=4

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Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-16 02:12:51 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Yeah mate I did get what you said, but it's not my experience of that formation with pressure & something i'm comfortable using for sure. Besides.. it's what I used last time we met. (away) http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7335300&dh=4 Fair enough. You inevitably have a lot more experience with the set up than I do, I absolutely hate using pressure with less than 4 midfielders so in fairness I cannot claim to have experience with it. What little I know is up there though, hope it helps. The game engine can be a mystery at times indeed. I might post a few games with similar setups to yours (as in vastly superior matchups across the tactical board) which had lead to poor output and see what any of you think, tomorrow though.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-10-16 02:22:57 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-16 02:25:34 Citera Svara I have one team I use for LB+Pressure with just about every game (USA) had another team too.. in WWV that I used it for 9/10 times for 2 seasons... trying various formations etc.. out with it.. 5-3-2 is not bad with it... but maybe something in it's effect to LRS.. i will give that a look/thought. Last time I win with it (532)was only last week, against one of lges strongest teams, whilst we are one of weakest. http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7394262&dh=4

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[Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-16 02:26:35 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster I have one team I use for LB+Pressure with just about every game (USA) had another team too.. in WWV that I used it for 9/10 times for 2 seasons... trying various formations etc.. out with it.. 5-3-2 is not bad with it. Last time I win with it (532)was only last week, against one of lges strongest teams, whilst we are one of weakest. http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7394262&dh=4

Very good result. I suppose for me, the big loss in performance comes with the pressure with 2 less men in midfield, that's when I've seen worst results. That was against the 4-4-2 in your aforementioned match, and I think that LB + P can work pretty well there (used it with 3-4-3 a few times against 4-5-1's, think I posted the games on the forum here somewhere)

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Dmandmythdledge [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Dmandmythdledge] Blev medlem: 2006-06-04 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-16 03:37:33 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster TP was using LRS - that was my first choice (Pressure) and would be everytime if we could re-run it.. I don't buy it was the difference, besides if any team can cope with using pressure it's mine, but appreciate your opinion. Using pressure vs LRS in a situation like this always intrigues me...pressure is obviously the natural counter to LRS but would you gain an advantage or disadvantage from using it? My take on it is that is could well be negative...same principle as to when you use pressure with a weaker midfield you actual weaken yourself rather than strengthen. Could well me wrong though just my theory on it. :0 Also perhaps you had particular reasons for choosing 532 but with TP's midfielders a bit weaker than yours and your knowing 451 LRS was coming surely 352 would have been the best option to choose considering what you have at your disposal???

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Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-16 03:42:36 Citera Svara Game 1 - Agree that this one is harsh, but I once had a side which won promotion to a league they had no hope in, 3 seasons younger and average age problems. Really should have thrown a few matches, but that's not my style. Anyway, point is I used Chicken's tactic here a bit, 4-5-1 defensive or v. defensive, and pressure, I did I got most of the rest wrong and it still finished 0-0 most times. I'm not really confortable with a 3 man defence marking a striker either, I mean I would have done it for this game too, but I still don't really like it. Also, not as much point marking a striker when they've gone v.def. Careful probably didn't help matters either. I don't really think the marking of the striker and the careful aggression had much to do with it. I think it's all down to SC going for the shut out. 3-5-2 offensive or 3-4-3 Normal would have done you well here, but you don't play that into a 4-5-1 offensive, unless you're a lot better or fucken nuts. Game 2 - Agree with Bejjita here, in so much as I like 4-5-1 pressure against 5-3-2. Midfield of 8 v 13 sums this up for me. A little harsh maybe, but I think it's a fair result. Also noticed that TP and SC have nice home ground advantages, especially SC.

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan SpaceChicken [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-09-03 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-16 17:05:50 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-16 17:10:41 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Bottled it? You play 451 VD yet we bottle it, That's one hell of LOL Chicken. You had 1 injury? form wasn't great, but.. still it was 14 overall in-game, so it wasn't shocking either & home advantage. I would've went cautious but noted you down as offensive (home), that was a fair guess, it was only a week before game you were saying to GB about teams that "bottle" offensive in the scrabble, so our defensive "would've" worked better with the attacking formation had you went what I anticipated.. was a suprise to see VD. No worries shit happens.. guess I felt like a whine this time.

duff let's be fair you side was hugely more skilled than mine

offensive was definitely the way forward for you Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: SpaceChicken Skrivet: 2009-10-16 17:15:11 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-16 17:41:34 Citera Svara Where doe's offensive away get you? more so if "thinking" the home team will play offensive? I'd be writing the same press you wrote at weekend in DL... so I guess 1 point off you in away game will have to do. *Not many skillbars between our teams tbf either, not enough to think one will walk it with offensive away for sure.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-16 21:22:20 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-17 02:06:15 Citera Svara http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7286627&dh=1 5-3-2 << Formation >> 3-4-3 Defensive << Playing style >> Normal Through plays << Offence >> Long range shots Tighten the wings << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes None << Playmaker >> Boris Herberger Vilhelm Borglund << Tightly marked >> Martin Dahlin Birgir Steingrmsson << Captain >> Mario Ginman Better tactics, NOT perfect, fine now?

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Flytta till verst p sidan Dmandmythdledge [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Dmandmythdledge] Blev medlem: 2006-06-04 Svar till: Blu3red Skrivet: 2009-10-17 01:13:19 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-17 01:13:47 Citera Svara I don't think is as big of an injustice as you are making out. Obviously you are frustrated; better ratings, better tactics, 4 chances to 1 and still not pick up the victory but... Ursprungligen postat av: Blu3red Honestly, how can a keeper (not so skilled) can kill off 3 good forwards (and very in form before the game) ? Two of your chances were free kicks so only two chances from play which isn't an awful lot. He outperformed your strikers (probably because of the clean sheet though to be fair) but I don't think the skill difference between him and your strikers is big enough that you can feel hard done by...unlucky yes but he could have had incredibly high form for all you know, be a moody player or be a greedy with a high win bonus being used. Ursprungligen postat av: Blu3red This is fucking frustrating, really. To have one of the best team from the game and to manage to have such perfect tactics at this level and still be denied by.... what?! Home advantage? Or what? I really can't understand. I'm not too sure if the tactics were perfect...better obviously and damn good tactics but I would have used three at the back if I knew long balls were coming (didn't make much difference here though) and would have gone for five in midfield using long range shots to get more of an advantage there. Yes that would mean 451 vs a five man defence and also chance potency but with long range shots the midfield is weighted more so that would not be a problem in my mind. Ultimately though I think this does come back to your point about home advantage. With his defensive mindset coupled with the home advantage I think you need perfect tactics unless you have a pretty decent skill advantage.

The Chaos Cartel...simply the best Free the Karlos 1 Flytta till verst p sidan Blu3red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Blu3red] Blev medlem: 2006-01-08 Svar till: Dmandmythdledge Skrivet: 2009-10-17 01:52:01 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-17 01:56:36 Citera Svara Believe me, I am a very good manager when it comes to explaining weird results. The bottom line is that with a team like mine, in 7 of 10 cases a good tactic is not necessary and the team should win a game without my help. Judging the game by every aspect, I was better than him at absolutely every chapter of it (apart from teamwork 20 vs 19),

from strength to tactics. A 3-4-3 normal formation was the obvious choice. Normal, because I knew he will play defensive and if I would have gone cautious or defensive, it would have been worse for sure, 1-1 chances or something. 3 forwards to ensure the efficiency (which didn't helped me), 4 midfielders because of me playing long range shots and against no pressure, tighten the wings and 3 midfielders, I should have created more chances, and 3 good defenders because he had only 2 forwards (and I guessed he will play 5-3-2, which he did), because I marked one of his forwards and because I knew he will play defensive. My ONLY mistake was that I didn't played pressure (pressure against defensive is good for the recovery of the ball), but it was not a big mistake as he played long balls and I don't know if it would have been worse or better to play pressure. From my point of view, I did absolutely everything in order to get the win and from my experience the only thing that stopped me was my home advantage. When you have a big home advantage is very hard for you to create chances away from home. With a smaller home advantage it would have been something like this 1-7 chances and at least 0-1 or 0-2

Happiness is not so much in having as sharing. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. Flytta till verst p sidan SpaceChicken [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-09-03 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-18 23:53:59 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Where doe's offensive away get you? more so if "thinking" the home team will play offensive? I'd be writing the same press you wrote at weekend in DL i was gambling on a side coming off a good change report putting up huge numbers you pretty much knew you'd slam me in the skill battle face it duff you screwed up Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: SpaceChicken Skrivet: 2009-10-19 00:51:09 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-19 00:52:40 Citera Svara Of course you were m7te. Afraid not Chicken, nothing I would've done different going into that game 10 times over, we nailed you perfect on the tactics, I predicted offensive from you... that was the only downfall in this game + I don't go too attacking with careful away. You shat it & shut-up shop after predicting an "easy" game. I need shot if you finish above us.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Sherwyn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Sherwyn] Blev medlem: 2007-05-16 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-20 18:42:56 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-20 18:52:24 Citera Svara In the long term which player is a better option? A 17'4 trainer or A 16'4 non trainer? Ignore price and other SQ's Flytta till verst p sidan ... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ...

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... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ... Frfattare Meddelande PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Sherwyn Skrivet: 2009-10-20 18:49:52 Citera Svara Depends on if you want the player long term or not. Flytta till verst p sidan Sherwyn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Sherwyn] Blev medlem: 2007-05-16 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-10-20 18:55:09 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: PrinceCharming77 Depends on if you want the player long term or not. Question altered. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Sherwyn Skrivet: 2009-10-20 19:04:19 Citera Svara In a private league I would rather have the 17/4 trainer since I think that they should catch the 16/4 on development by

their late 20s and on the road to that, they will in general have higher form which means better performances. In the xpert leagues, I think I'd rather have the 16/4 since u can just dump the cup and get the most out of training with 1 game/week. I think the 17/4 trainer still could catch up, but it isn't as likely.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-10-24 10:03:40 Citera Svara Posting my last Xpert game just to confirm you get very little credit for seemingly decent selections on the tactics page if the rest of your set-up is rubbish. Yes, my tactics were pretty poor but I'd expected probably 4 points and was interested to see I only received 2. Im the home team, ref S2H9, score 1-1 (3-4) http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7287312&dh=1 4-3-3 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Normal << Playing style >> Offensive Wing plays << Offence >> Varied Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Georg Jback << Playmaker >> Danut Casteleanu Danut Casteleanu << Tightly marked >> Antonino Pagliarini Antonino Pagliarini << Captain >> Melker Ingelsson

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-10-24 12:07:53 Citera Svara less points for not winning and no points for shots (and at home), so now that we have the bleendin' obvious out of the

way i have a question or two. You are judged on the other 60% (lest just say its that or 55%) on team selection, skill of that selection, form, best players against formation you could play, teamwork values and of course how you compare against the other team. so for you GB, 1. why did you expect 4 points? For everybody, When being judged on the team you put out does the system take into account injuries or not? And by this I mean do you have any actual proof. Or will you get 'marked down' for not selecting your best team even though some of them are injured. I also considered the fact that you played your injured keeper. If somebody can answer the above question I wondered what effect that would have (though possibly not much). I have to say that with getting his playmaker (even though at home) getting a draw, playing pretty much your best available team ( i am assuming better form of higgens over kerr) I would have expected more than 2 points too. Dont mean to be rude GB, but are you sure you only got 2 points?

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-10-24 14:53:01 Citera Svara Yes, I only got 2 points. Over the last two weeks my scores have been... 9/10 Excession(a) W2-1 +12 points (7-2) 451 vs. 433 total 267 points / 36 games = 7.42 average -10/4 lost game Droylsdon(h) W4-0 -3 points (9-5) 433 vs. 424 total 264 points / 35 games = 7.54 average 12/10 Fiddez(n) W2-0 +4 points (11-3) 451 vs. 442 total 268 points / 36 games = 7.44 average 16/10 Romshank(a) D0-0 +7 points (3-0) 343 vs. 352 total 275 points / 37 games = 7.43 average -17/4 Whitefield(h) W6-0 -12 points (11-4) 352 vs. 442 total 263 points / 36 games = 7.31 average 19/10 Red Bulls(n) W2-1 +6 points (6-3) 343 vs. 451 total 269 points / 37 games = 7.27 average 23/10 Erpingham(h) D1-1 +2 points (3-4) 433 vs. 442 total 271 points / 38 games = 7.13 average My point was I know my tactics were VERY poor with the exception of... - I guessed playmaker and he didn't guess mine. (1 point?) - My offence and defence styles were right although I have no headers for my wing plays. (I thought I would have got 1-2 points here?) - I started 10 of my strongest available eleven (strongest would have been 442 and I was concerned he would dominate me if he played 352 as I expected). (0 points?) - He pressured with 4 in midfield and I used longballs with 3 up to negate this. (0 points?) - Didn't dare play careful with the S2H9 ref, but seemingly I got nothing for cheating and no offsides. I'd assumed previously the only points you get from ref is using careful AND getting a positive result where the result points are then weighted. (1 point for result?) Pretty much everything else was terrible!! I hate 433 vs. 442, and I think offensive vs. offensive would have been MUCH better for me as my team were slightly stronger (in fact anything but normal would have been more effective).

I was interested in showing the margins between a high scoring game and a low scoring game can be relatively small.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-10-24 20:28:12 Citera Svara Wasn't really doubting you just seemed a bit low. You guessed his playmaker but he created more shots so do you still get the point for that? Did you start your strongest 10 by skill, or by skill and form? I reckon when you say you did, that you did, but I am just asking. What the system thinks is the best players and what formation they should be in is. Had you played offsides you would have got negative points rather than just getting points for not playing them. To be honest it seems fucked up that you only got 2 points and i am at a loss to explain it.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-10-28 18:36:01 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS Yes, I only got 2 points. Over the last two weeks my scores have been... 9/10 Excession(a) W2-1 +12 points (7-2) 451 vs. 433 total 267 points / 36 games = 7.42 average -10/4 lost game Droylsdon(h) W4-0 -3 points (9-5) 433 vs. 424 total 264 points / 35 games = 7.54 average 12/10 Fiddez(n) W2-0 +4 points (11-3) 451 vs. 442 total 268 points / 36 games = 7.44 average 16/10 Romshank(a) D0-0 +7 points (3-0) 343 vs. 352 total 275 points / 37 games = 7.43 average -17/4 Whitefield(h) W6-0 -12 points (11-4) 352 vs. 442 total 263 points / 36 games = 7.31 average 19/10 Red Bulls(n) W2-1 +6 points (6-3) 343 vs. 451 total 269 points / 37 games = 7.27 average 23/10 Erpingham(h) D1-1 +2 points (3-4) 433 vs. 442 total 271 points / 38 games = 7.13 average My point was I know my tactics were VERY poor with the exception of... - I guessed playmaker and he didn't guess mine. (1 point?)

- My offence and defence styles were right although I have no headers for my wing plays. (I thought I would have got 1-2 points here?) - I started 10 of my strongest available eleven (strongest would have been 442 and I was concerned he would dominate me if he played 352 as I expected). (0 points?) - He pressured with 4 in midfield and I used longballs with 3 up to negate this. (0 points?) - Didn't dare play careful with the S2H9 ref, but seemingly I got nothing for cheating and no offsides. I'd assumed previously the only points you get from ref is using careful AND getting a positive result where the result points are then weighted. (1 point for result?) Pretty much everything else was terrible!! I hate 433 vs. 442, and I think offensive vs. offensive would have been MUCH better for me as my team were slightly stronger (in fact anything but normal would have been more effective). I was interested in showing the margins between a high scoring game and a low scoring game can be relatively small. How do you count your points? Maybe you have explained in another place here?

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-10-28 18:56:12 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-28 18:57:04 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 How do you count your points? Maybe you have explained in another place here? There is a number of managers in here that count the manager points to a certain rank then it becomes tough, I can't.. actually I can barely count.. anyway i've had it explained to me by a few and don't understand it, most points are weighted & bar fact nobody knows exactly how points are awarded, but it doe's seem a close opinion on what gained. GB - See you posted 2 points gained above? if the result-value has awarded 1 point alone then doesn't 1 point for the rest of your selection come close to what a inactive manager would gain?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem:

2007-09-24 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-10-28 19:11:50 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 How do you count your points? Maybe you have explained in another place here? I learnt it yesterday. If you check my post in this thread it might clear things up: http://www.xperteleven.com/viewLeagueMessageN.aspx?threadID=5096899&read=1&Lnr=0&dh=4 Its the second last at the moment Flytta till verst p sidan SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-10-31 01:40:44 Uppdaterat: 2009-10-31 01:42:41 Citera Svara This game feels like it's a joke sometimes. After 10 straight wins I loose when my tactics is almost "spot on" as some might say. This was an important game as this was the fight for 2nd place. so put a 350k win bonus. I knew he where going to mark my lone striker so had to play with 2 attackers. Wouldn't you do the same? Managed to prepare right even though he hasn't played it for the last three. Just realized it wasn't the smartest ting to play wing plays when my header was marked. Crap! Got MOTR btw... Any other aspects would be welcomed... My latest xpert game: http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7242552&dh=1 Score 2-0. Chances 3-4. 4-3-3 << Formation >> 4-4-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Normal Through plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Denis Buzar << Playmaker >> Caj Rocha Jukka-Pekka rni << Tightly marked >> Jacob Almljung

If I act like stupid, it's just because I want you to understand me.

Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-10-31 02:01:11 Citera Svara Easy to say after the match but... Stand out mistake was the playmaker choice on both fronts, if you know the striker will be marked the greatest choice is to let your most skilled MF carry the weight of play, more so if confident on tactics, and likewise you didn't mark their most skilled MF who happened to be intelligent, if in doubt perhaps wiser to just not mark at all more so if you know they're going to bypass with the 433. Personally don't like a 433 home V 442 away unless I use the LB with them, so reckon they had upper hand on more dangerous chance, pressure wasn't really needed as you had the middle won before K/O - unless you prepared LRS, I don't know. And of course Normal PS only leads to an enhanced home attack unless most of the game is in the away team favour, wasn't the case here, no suprise you lost the match.. prob harsh you didn't at least score, though looking at the home keeper it's maybe not a suprise.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-31 12:37:09 Citera Svara Yes the playmaker was a bummer but he didn't create more than 3 chances. I have to say the defence especially my GK where in bad shape after loosing in cup on Tuesday but I couldn't do anything about that, so I had to get the tactics right. And when you get a lot right in a tricky position it's hard to accept that it still wasn't enough... Prepared for LRS, why pressure. What about Normal playing style? Should I have played careful? PS! Climbed from ranked 14 to 10. That's a good game considering I could have got 5 more points for winning the game.

If I act like stupid, it's just because I want you to understand me. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!]

[Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-10-31 15:56:01 Citera Svara No not careful!! "PS" as in maybe cautious against the offensive, Harsh scoreline all the same.. but guess you had a little more that may have helped the PM being one of those choices... I had a weird scoreline not long ago which annoyed me, iwe agreed it was strange scoreline but not result, but added letting my lesser skilled MF carry the weight wasn't a wise choice, I reckon you'd get he same answer for this game. Top 10? not bad eh! will you beat the elusive 8 now? Noticed McNeilis has got into N#7 too.. harsh he's went out the cup or lobby without XCL was realistic!!

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Dmandmythdledge [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Dmandmythdledge] Blev medlem: 2006-06-04 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-10-31 16:05:12 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS - Didn't dare play careful with the S2H9 ref, but seemingly I got nothing for cheating and no offsides. I'd assumed previously the only points you get from ref is using careful AND getting a positive result where the result points are then weighted. (1 point for result?) Perhaps you lost point(s) for not using careful? My take on it (well parroting Duff tbh ) is that the most important aspects are: *formation *playing style *aggression I don't think you got any of these right so that's why I think you scored so lowly.

The Chaos Cartel...simply the best Free the Karlos 1 Flytta till verst p sidan SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem]

[SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-10-31 16:24:17 Citera Svara Oh eehm sorry. I meant cautious. In Norwegian we use "careful" for both playing style and aggression. How many chances do you think it would have been with cautious? Quality guess. If the master says so, but then we may debate if the choice of playmaker is too heavy weighted?

If I act like stupid, it's just because I want you to understand me. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-10-31 16:39:59 Citera Svara When two teams of similar strength play against each other, and the choice of playing styles for both teams are quite offensive, then it is very likely that in most even games tactically, that the team with more strikers upfront will win.. For the same reasons as mentioned here: http://www.xperteleven.com/viewLeagueMessageN.aspx?threadID=4910360&read=1&Lnr=0&dh=4

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-10-31 18:59:17 Citera Svara I think you did a good match! From my statistic its a good choice to use pressure against long balls away. You play normal when he plays offensive. And you win the chances. His defence was a little stronger and this day i think it was decisive. 350 in win bonus is good too. You take tightly mark his midfielder and i think it is a good idea to mark in the weakest part of the opponent. The biggest misstake is to not have a better playmaker. You have Caj Rocha and inspite of his playmaker he does 14 and the other one makes 16, 15. (I think you gets around 0-2 extra points for the playmaker role). But you have still great performance from your team so i dont think you could do much better.

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-10-31 20:22:53 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 . You take tightly mark his midfielder and i think it is a good idea to mark in the weakest part of the opponent. Even if that is the wrong PM in a 3 man middle? that surely will only enhance their midfield, more so if stronger MF will carry the play.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-01 02:19:58 Citera Svara Thanks Zanza, but about pressure vs LB. Hasn't Iwe given a hint that it could be wise to use long balls&trough plays facing a strong pressuring midfield? What's your idea behind this or why do you think pressure is effective? With the marking of weakest part. Do I understand you right that you would still prefer marking the right PM of course, but would you prefer marking a midfielder (not the PM) instead of marking none or a striker because he's in the weakest part?

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Won my first league game this season. Im the away team. Ref was S8H8. Team skill 11 vs 7, starting lineup was 10 vs 8. I have 293 manager points today. Really curious to see what this game will bring me: Possession: 44 - 56 (52-48) Chances: 4 - 9 (1-6) Home - Man Of The Match - Away Per-Albin Grning rjan Wilhelmsson

Tactic report 3-4-3 << Formation >> 4-5-1 Normal << Playing style >> Defensive Through plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the wings No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Careful No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No No << Win bonus >> Yes None << Playmaker >> Edgar Hellhoff None << Tightly marked >> None Giovanny Bertuzzi << Captain >> rjan Wilhelmsson Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-11-03 21:21:09 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-03 21:25:59 Citera Svara When I use the good offence style with comparable "right" choices to those I've scored 12-14 points for a deserved away win. I've copied the tactics/points from my last 2 away wins below (12 and 11 points) and the highest score I could find which was 6 months ago - I might be wrong here but I can only find 2 instances of 16 points in my recent (I was achieving much better scores a year or so ago when I didn't record them all) history. I tend to be similar or stronger with my current team so maybe your game will help show some weighting for team strength?? 12 points (away win) http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7287320&dh=1 4-3-3 << Formation >> 4-5-1 Normal << Playing style >> Cautious Varied << Offence >> Long range shots Normal << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No No << Win bonus >> Yes None << Playmaker >> Antonino Pagliarini

None << Tightly marked >> None Gujn Arnthorsson << Captain >> Antonino Pagliarini 11 points (away win) http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7287348&dh=1 4-4-2 << Formation >> 3-4-3 Offensive << Playing style >> Defensive Varied << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> Yes No << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes None << Playmaker >> Ugo Zampagna Antonino Pagliarini << Tightly marked >> Karl-Erik Eklf Ren Ulestedt << Captain >> Antonino Pagliarini 16 points (away win) http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6534368&dh=1 4-4-2 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Cautious Varied << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Caj Collander << Playmaker >> Ugo Zampagna None << Tightly marked >> Alfredo Sarasua Peyton James << Captain >> Anders Engstrm

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-03 21:43:39 Citera Svara Thanks GB, nice to have something to compare with. 12-15 point might seem resonable. I wonder about the playmaker though. I had picked one but he didnt field him and he didnt choose any other PM. Wonder if that gives me more or less points. Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24

Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-11-03 23:52:00 Citera Svara Looked at my old games. Will this match come of my cycle this night or did it come of today? http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6596831&dh=1 Flytta till verst p sidan SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-11-04 02:10:49 Citera Svara Came off 10 minutes ago. Nice move Prince.

If I act like stupid, it's just because I want you to understand me. Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-11-04 08:53:48 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: SuperSprint Came off 10 minutes ago. Nice move Prince. Well, its annoying. Now I wont know how many point I got from yesterdays game I have 301 today so it gave me eight more than the one that came off. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-11-04 09:43:11 Citera Svara

Be patient and you'll (probably) find out in 6 months when it drops off

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-04 12:54:48 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-04 21:49:02 Citera Svara It's the Neo can't get over the result post, and like that time when I was 14 and got my bum pinched by a 60 year old steward at the footy, is not sure whether to be confuse or pissed off. So go on, I'm home. He had an average age of 24, I don't know what mine was, but it was more than 26. 250k win bonus. Basically Eson play 5-2-3 pressure, instead of 5-2-3 long ball, I mean wtf? http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7419326&dh=1 Tactic report 4-4-2 << Formation >> 5-2-3 Very offensive << Playing style >> Defensive Varied << Offence >> Varied Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Marciello Guimares << Playmaker >> Max Eriksson Reginald Gahan << Tightly marked >> Marciello Guimares Aaron Stanhope << Captain >> Noa Nsholm

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-11-04 13:01:51 Citera Svara You went very offensive You marked a striker which was ineffectual seeing he played 3. He marked your playmaker.

He tightened the centre and pressured which nulls 2 of the attackes from varied. You went normal with a 7H ref when he had a better freekicker than your keeper. His 5 defenders kept out your two strikers and midfield (from a rampaging very offensive tactic) and he scored from a set piece from a good freekicker. Seen harsher results.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-04 14:12:31 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-04 14:27:14 Citera Svara Then a new game will come into play. I will never know Flytta till verst p sidan SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2009-11-04 15:44:00 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: PrinceCharming77 Then a new game will come into play. I will never know Probably a bigger chance that you're ranked too high to count your points exactly then. So be glad you can still count it exactly mate. It's annoying being ranked this high, glad it's silly season soon.

If I act like stupid, it's just because I want you to understand me. Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-11-04 19:49:53 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-04 19:52:14 Citera

Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Even if that is the wrong PM in a 3 man middle? that surely will only enhance their midfield, more so if stronger MF will carry the play. Yes i think its better to be active and mark someone than to not. What do we have for "stated truths" in english/swedish forums from members/crew about marking forwards when meeting 4-5-1, marking the best midfielder or second and so on? Do we have some thread here in the forum with links to threads with something extraordinary interesting from members or crew? I have read the rules but heard so much from time to time about tactic settings so i cant believe in anything :D And the rules are from the beginning of the game and much has happened during the time.

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-11-04 20:17:33 Citera Svara This is the eternal question - is it good with long balls against press beacuase the midfield are too high up in the field or do the press from the midfielders force the defence to play too quick or just fritters away the boll? Im unsure today and try to figure out with statistic and im unsure about the rules which is old at this time. Its the same with pressure. In which cases is it good to use pressure and with what kind of formations? Do we have some "truths" here? Im unsure about the weakiest part but i think its advantage to take some choice especielly away.

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7

Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-04 21:04:41 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 Do we have some thread here in the forum with links to threads with something extraordinary interesting from members or crew?

We used to have a thread with forum links to this sort of thing but i think it has gone. I am sure we could assemble another quite quickly.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-11-05 11:29:11 Citera Svara I made this thread zanza with some nice links in. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewLeagueMessageN.aspx?threadID=4834291&read=1&Lnr=0&dh=4

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Ursprungligen postat av: Bejjita I made this thread zanza with some nice links in. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewLeagueMessageN.aspx?threadID=4834291&read=1&Lnr=0&dh=4 nice thread, couple of things in there i hadn't seen (and some very embarrassing opinions i expressed a couple of years ago) Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-11-05 19:48:30 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Bejjita I made this thread zanza with some nice links in. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewLeagueMessageN.aspx?threadID=4834291&read=1&Lnr=0&dh=4 Great job and congrats to MOTW!

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-05 19:51:27 Citera Svara Thanks zanza!

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gildar [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [gildar] Blev medlem: 2004-02-08 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-08 02:50:18 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-08 02:51:18 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 Yes i think its better to be active and mark someone than to not. I think you are wrong here. Marking a lower skilled player will strengthen the opponents midfield unless that player is also playmaker. Quote Iwe: "What happens is that you lower one of his players but in return you give the rest of his players more space. If the player is playmaker or a single forward you will still gain from it, but otherwise you will probably lose more than you gain if the opponent has an evenly skilled team". (translated from http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx? threadID=47238&forumid=2&read=1&search=1&messageid=47242#47242 ) In this case they weren't even evenly skilled, the marked player was two bars lesser than the PM. Though the opponent's use of long balls will have decreased the effect of his PM and therefore also the effect of marking the wrong player in this game. Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 What do we have for "stated truths" in english/swedish forums from members/crew about marking forwards when meeting 4-5-1, marking the best midfielder or second and so on? There are loads of info in Iwe's old posts from 2003-2004. Two things that apply when meeting 4-5-1: * The marked player's skill will only be lowered by 5-10% but a very large percentage of the chances that player is involved in will just be removed. * Marking players generally has a bigger impact on team parts with few players in. Marking the PM will always give the best effect, but unless you're fairly certain which player that will be, I'd usually mark the forward when up against 451.

~~ Team Sweden ~~ just nu *nst* bst i vrlden! :) Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: gildar Skrivet: 2009-11-09 11:14:23 Citera Svara I was talking to Chrille a few month back about not using a PM at all in the midfield when it's balanced on skill like my official team) think posted it in here somewhere too but can't find it. Anyways here is another bit from iwe that isn't in the forums:

"For example when assigning the lowest skilled player as playmaker the overall performance of the midfield would be drawn towards his skill level and not make the use of the other midfielders skill. So it would be better not to assaign a playmaker instead of chosing a lower skilled player." The last part of that should be noted.

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... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ... Frfattare Meddelande GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-11-09 11:27:40 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster "For example when assigning the lowest skilled player as playmaker the overall performance of the midfield would be drawn towards his skill level and not make the use of the other midfielders skill. So it would be better not to assaign a playmaker instead of chosing a lower skilled player." The last part of that should be noted. Wowsers!! I often use a low skill playmaker so they never get marked

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 11:35:54 Citera Svara Great quote Duff! The overall performance of the midfield is drawn towards his skill level. That's an interesting way to put it, not sure if that's just a quirk of the maths, as the play maker would basically have a greater affect on the midfield skill, or if it's saying something else. Does raise another good question, if you have one outstanding midfielder who always get marked, how much better than the other midfielders does he have to be for you to use him as a play maker knowing he was going to get marked.

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Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-11-09 11:43:20 Citera Svara When I managed this team I always used Mitch Sharpe as playmaker and he alomst always got marked. On the whole results were good and it was the period when my ranking was at its highest. http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=101458&Boost=0&dh=1 Sharpe was 14 skilled with a bunch of 10 skills alongside him in midfield when I used him as PM.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:01:51 Citera Svara Interesting shit there duffer! So always pick your highest player as playmaker whether he gets marked or not? All the players in the midfield with him are drawn to his skill, ALSO the other players will perform better when the playmaker is marked so is that a further increase? No brainer then to have the highest skilled mid as playmaker every game!! On a side note though, a lot of quotes from Iwe are probably from 3-4 years ago and the engine is being tweeked constantly so how much of what he says from a while ago still stand?

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan gildar [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [gildar] Blev medlem: 2004-02-08 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:03:37 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Anyways here is another bit from iwe that isn't in the forums: Another quote (from an old forum post) along the same lines:

"If your midfielders are of equal strenght, you will not gain anything from using a playmaker. And if you make one of your lowest skilled midfielders playmaker, it will be directly bad for your team to have a playmaker". Ursprungligen postat av: Neowhite Does raise another good question, if you have one outstanding midfielder who always get marked, how much better than the other midfielders does he have to be for you to use him as a play maker knowing he was going to get marked. Never ever put a player you know will be marked as playmaker. Quote Iwe: "If a playmaker is marked, all the other midfielders' skill will be significantly heavier weighed than the playmaker's" This means that the marked player will contribute more to the team if he is not made playmaker! Also, a marked player will automatically lose a large percentage of his chances, regardless of skill (I think either 66% or 75% of the chances that player is involved in are just removed), and since the playmaker will be involved a lot more than the other midfielders in creating chances, this will be very harmful for your offence.

~~ Team Sweden ~~ just nu *nst* bst i vrlden! :) Flytta till verst p sidan gildar [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [gildar] Blev medlem: 2004-02-08 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:08:22 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-09 12:09:23 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS When I managed this team I always used Mitch Sharpe as playmaker and he alomst always got marked. On the whole results were good and it was the period when my ranking was at its highest. Maybe the tenskillers were good enough to win you the games anyway? There is an old example at the link below (in swedish) where a team has a midfield full of four-skillers and one 8-skiller, and Iwe explicitly says it would be bad for the team to use the 8-skiller as PM if you know he will be marked. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=41813&forumid=2&read=1&search=1

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Ursprungligen postat av: gildar Also, a marked player will automatically lose a large percentage of his chances, regardless of skill (I think either 66% or 75% of the chances that player is involved in are just removed), and since the playmaker will be involved a lot more than the other midfielders in creating chances, this will be very harmful for your offence. So, does that mean that correctly marking a PM should be more effective when your opponent uses an offensive playing style? Something I thought I'd noticed but never really chased up. The logic is that their playing offensive allows you to create more chances and, if most of their stuff goes through the PM and you cut a huge chunk out, you will benefit more in chances overall.

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: gildar Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:11:28 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: gildar Maybe the tenskillers were good enough to win you the games anyway? There is an old example at the link below (in swedish) where a team has a midfield full of four-skillers and one 8-skiller, and Iwe explicitly says it would be bad for the team to use the 8-skiller as PM if you know he will be marked. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=41813&forumid=2&read=1&search=1 Mint link thanks

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan gildar [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [gildar] Blev medlem: 2004-02-08 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:14:47 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS Mint link thanks You could always google translate it

~~ Team Sweden ~~ just nu *nst* bst i vrlden! :) Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: gildar Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:26:12 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-09 12:27:37 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: gildar You could always google translate it Sure I had done this and why I said it's an excellent link. Ursprungligen postat av: iwe Form scale is between 0 and 20. A player's accumulated skill has a minimum value and maximum value. No matter how good player you have to play conductor to serve you never to use him as a conductor on the games he will be tough, guarded than if he had not been playing conductor and hard guarded. Hard Guard is partly what percentage of the player's reduced ability. But since you let most go through the game playing conductor so hard guarding will stop a large proportion (percentage) of playing games from the conductor also regardless speldirigentens skill. Ursprungligen postat av: iwe If a game gets hard conductor watched the rest of your mittfltares ability to get significantly more weight than your speldirigents skill, because it becomes hard guarded, also will have its capacity severely impaired. So if you have a midfield consisting of 4s and an 8 as you turn the game conductor. If you then have the tough coverage on your 8th so will your 4: Eeyore's ability to have a much greater emphasis on the midfield. This means that you could have earned for failing to bring 8th game as conductor. Moreover, as will your players to try to play through your 8th and because your opponents are hard to watch him, you will create fewer chances than if you did not put the 8th to play conductor because your players then had fluctuated play more and not let they go through the 8th so much. With your 8th been hard guarded so have your other midfielders have more space and would then be better able to handle playing in a good way. It is a bit complicated to explain this because it is quite a lot variables that are affected. Anyway, it is best not to bring a player who bets conductor if the player will be hard guarded no matter how high skill player.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:28:38 Citera Svara

Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS Sure I had done this and why I said it's an excellent link.

Did you put your response through Google Translate too? Sounds like English > Swedish ? English to me... Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:29:21 Citera Svara Bork!! Bork!! Bork!!

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Muskateer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-04-12 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 12:30:34 Citera Svara va? Flytta till verst p sidan audub [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [audub] Blev medlem: 2005-06-11 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2009-11-09 13:22:55 Citera Svara Actually, Johan Johansson infamous song about the correlation between wealth and happines was named "VA?!", not "va?". I'm sure the Swedes remember this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cgZSVt5mFM

There are ten types of people in the world, those who are innumerate and karlos9. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: audub Skrivet: 2009-11-09 13:25:27 Citera Svara Was this before or after he played for Charlton??

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan audub [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [audub] Blev medlem: 2005-06-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 13:26:59 Citera Svara That was Jonatan Johansson, and he was finished, not swedished.

There are ten types of people in the world, those who are innumerate and karlos9. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: audub Skrivet: 2009-11-09 13:28:20 Citera Svara Mate, he's not finished, he's still playing in Scotchland with St Johnstone

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan audub [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [audub] Blev medlem: 2005-06-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 13:29:20 Citera Svara Yes, even though born in Sweden, he is finished. Case of point; he has over 100 caps for Finland.

There are ten types of people in the world, those who are innumerate and karlos9. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: audub Skrivet: 2009-11-09 13:32:00 Citera Svara He is certainly not finished. Case of point; Johansson was named in the starting line up for St Johnstone's Scotchland Cup quarter final tie against Dundee United on 27th October 2009

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 13:42:19 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS Mate, he's not finished, he's still playing in Scotchland with St Johnstone I would say he's finished then!

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[audub] Blev medlem: 2005-06-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 13:45:54 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS He is certainly not finished. Case of point; Johansson was named in the starting line up for St Johnstone's Scotchland Cup quarter final tie against Dundee United on 27th October 2009 Finns cannot play for St. Johnstone?

There are ten types of people in the world, those who are innumerate and karlos9. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: audub Skrivet: 2009-11-09 14:46:25 Citera Svara So Johansson is really Swedish?

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-11-09 14:53:00 Citera Svara By coincedence he is not finished and he was born in Stockholm

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more.

Flytta till verst p sidan audub [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [audub] Blev medlem: 2005-06-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-09 15:19:54 Citera Svara His birth place is irrelevant as Finns get their citizenship Jus sanguinis`.

There are ten types of people in the world, those who are innumerate and karlos9. Flytta till verst p sidan Xbytelizer [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Xbytelizer] Blev medlem: 2006-03-07 Svar till: audub Skrivet: 2009-11-09 17:44:53 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-09 17:45:04 Citera Svara Johansson is our Ibrahimovic. Wonder why Barca didn't choose him instead

You don't have to win it, just don't lose or draw it. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Xbytelizer Skrivet: 2009-11-11 10:33:49 Citera Svara What would be the chances of this player still getting a visible increase next season? http://www.xperteleven.com/player.aspx?playerid=9786753&dh=4 I'm unsure if I should sell him just now or keep, he's just double jumped to a 21/8 & only came in as an 18/4 - HT & Moody.. even though he's left with 13 avg which would = a very low 8 yeah?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: gildar Skrivet: 2009-11-11 19:28:24 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: gildar I think you are wrong here. Marking a lower skilled player will strengthen the opponents midfield unless that player is also playmaker. Quote Iwe: "What happens is that you lower one of his players but in return you give the rest of his players more space. If the player is playmaker or a single forward you will still gain from it, but otherwise you will probably lose more than you gain if the opponent has an evenly skilled team". (translated from http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx? threadID=47238&forumid=2&read=1&search=1&messageid=47242#47242 ) In this case they weren't even evenly skilled, the marked player was two bars lesser than the PM. Though the opponent's use of long balls will have decreased the effect of his PM and therefore also the effect of marking the wrong player in this game.

There are loads of info in Iwe's old posts from 2003-2004. Two things that apply when meeting 4-5-1: * The marked player's skill will only be lowered by 5-10% but a very large percentage of the chances that player is involved in will just be removed. * Marking players generally has a bigger impact on team parts with few players in. Marking the PM will always give the best effect, but unless you're fairly certain which player that will be, I'd usually mark the forward when up against 451. Ok first thing dont trust statistic but at this moment i think much i rules has been screwed up or down due to new implants and so on. Nothing particulary with that. The ground rules of course is correct in some way. I have done many tests about many variables in the game and i think its advantage to mark someone. Even if not play maker. From statistic. That you have linked to or write i suppose is the latest said from the crew. You use to be up in date. I would never mark a lousy player but to mark someone ought to be a good choice. In other cases the truth is that if you doesnt manage to mark playmaker or forward against 4-5-1 you are the looser in this choices. It cant be so simple? Why mark someone at all when probability is too high to loose points? When it comes to mark forward i agree it has important affect. But 75% of the chances will not result i something?! This number i put question mark on. I think the meaning is to be active. The clichee says dont trust in statistic but i do. But in the same way look at my rank...:D Iwe said: "If the player is playmaker or a single forward you will still gain from it, but otherwise you will probably lose more than you gain if the opponent has an evenly skilled team" Also i think it should be very complex for Iwe to get it fair with mark a player thats not the play maker so today i think this maybe has been changed.

This maybe is what i supposed: * Marking players generally has a bigger impact on team parts with few players in. "Marking the PM will always give the best effect, but unless you're fairly certain which player that will be, I'd usually mark the forward when up against 451. " Marking PM is the best but to miss the forward against 4-5-1 i dont think has too much affect. As said before of course rules is correct but today we dont know how much imply it has. I think there is much secrets between the rows and maybe we need statistic to find it.

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-11-11 19:39:16 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster ... "For example when assigning the lowest skilled player as playmaker the overall performance of the midfield would be drawn towards his skill level and not make the use of the other midfielders skill. So it would be better not to assaign a playmaker instead of chosing a lower skilled player." The last part of that should be noted. But then we have the form and what happens in the match. If the player isnt too bad he must be possible for PM?

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17

Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2009-11-11 19:48:39 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Muskateer va?

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-11 19:48:57 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 But then we have the form and what happens in the match. If the player isnt too bad he must be possible for PM? Can't say I play by this, I too often use a lesser skilled MF - but thought it was worth sharing & let you's make up your own mind. At that time I questioned a scoreline, the lesser skilled MF I used as PM had 18 form going into the match.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-11-11 20:03:27 Citera

Svara A while back Holidays mentioned something in scribble about marking players where you have quite a few players in that area. So if you are playing 5 in midfield the mark a midfielder or if you want to mark the keeper then play 3 up front. zanza67 to you have any information on this? do you think there is an impact as i have always wondered.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-11 20:06:00 Citera Svara I'll post this here too because some may have missed it in the scribble at the time, what I found interesting was the fact that each player with the SQ was awarded x amount - I wonder just how many in the past have racked up a fair whack of points by packing their team with SQs, really unfair flaw.... but tbh I can't really think of many who have loads of SQs in their team over the years? that got advantage. Ursprungligen postat av: iwe Well there was an advantage linked to having a lot of SQs but it has been removed now. What it was all about was that if you play for example from the wings then it was good if you had players with the header SQ. If all the players had the header SQ then it was award for each player with the SQ. But this has been removed since a while back when it became appearent to us and now it doesn't have any direct effect on the manager skill any more.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-11-11 20:12:38 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Basilbrush303 A while back Holidays mentioned something in scribble about marking players where you have quite a few players in that area. So if you are playing 5 in midfield the mark a midfielder or if you want to mark the keeper then play 3 up front. zanza67 to you have any information on this? do you think there is an impact as i have always wondered.

To mark defender or goalie seems to be worthless.

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-11-11 20:18:05 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster I'll post this here too because some may have missed it in the scribble at the time, what I found interesting was the fact that each player with the SQ was awarded x amount - I wonder just how many in the past have racked up a fair whack of points by packing their team with SQs, really unfair flaw.... but tbh I can't really think of many who have loads of SQs in their team over the years? that got advantage.

Great posting again Duffster. In the beginning it seemed good to have SQ but i have never copied that but then we have Alexander112 in the top? I cant get what he do to gain first spot5?

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-11 20:36:51 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-11 20:38:38 Citera Svara

As some here already know my lad did a "Chrille" (or subsequently Alexander112) during his 3 month stay on the site over the summer holidays. Team packed full of headers, quicks, and hard shooters, and set up 352 (offensive at home, cautious away), offensive: wing plays and defensive: tighten the centre, with pressure EVERY game, regardless of how opponent sets up or how likely it was opponent would buy tactic reports and counter every single tactic. Playmaker was rotated between the two highest skill players, neither of which had intelligent SQ. I advised him how I would play the refs and this is the only variable he changed...no wonder he got bored. He managed his team less than 3 months and despite being countered fairly regularly he averaged around 11.5 points a game when his VIP ran out and he didn't want to shell out for more. Had he run 40 games in a 6 month cycle that average would have equated to 460 manager points and NINETEEN frickin' bars - likely enough to make him world #1. I scored a few of his games as I score all my own and of the handful of games I noted there's a run that scores 16, 13, 16, 14. Probably about every other game he got reasonably countered by opponent but still scored highly regardless. That is why Alexander112 is ranked #2 Edit - The only time Charlie changed his tactics he had a stronger team in the cup and got dicked playing something other than the 352 above.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-11 21:00:07 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 To mark defender or goalie seems to be worthless. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx? threadID=3888666&forumid=26&read=1&search=1&messageid=3888898#3888898 I have always felt that marking the keeper with bruise always seems to have an effect but have no evidence to back it up. With the above thread perhaps I only thought this due to scoring from freekicks and corners, but i would not expect many freekicks as the ref would have a low H values. which brings me to this. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx? threadID=3888666&forumid=26&read=1&search=1&messageid=3888898#3888898 if marking the keeper has an effect on freekicks should marking the freekick taker not also have an effect?

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-11 21:07:14 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: GRASSBANDITS As some here already know my lad did a "Chrille" (or subsequently Alexander112) during his 3 month stay on the site over the summer holidays. Team packed full of headers, quicks, and hard shooters, and set up 352 (offensive at home, cautious away), offensive: wing plays and defensive: tighten the centre, with pressure EVERY game, regardless of how opponent sets up or how likely it was opponent would buy tactic reports and counter every single tactic. Playmaker was rotated between the two highest skill players, neither of which had intelligent SQ. I advised him how I would play the refs and this is the only variable he changed...no wonder he got bored. He managed his team less than 3 months and despite being countered fairly regularly he averaged around 11.5 points a game when his VIP ran out and he didn't want to shell out for more. Had he run 40 games in a 6 month cycle that average would have equated to 460 manager points and NINETEEN frickin' bars - likely enough to make him world #1. I scored a few of his games as I score all my own and of the handful of games I noted there's a run that scores 16, 13, 16, 14. Probably about every other game he got reasonably countered by opponent but still scored highly regardless. That is why Alexander112 is ranked #2 Edit - The only time Charlie changed his tactics he had a stronger team in the cup and got dicked playing something other than the 352 above.

Absolutely bang on the money GB! This is the formation I always recommended when writing a guide on ranking and used with several manager who I have helped dramatically raise their ranking. Also http://www.xperteleven.com/xpertdaily.aspx?DartID=2096&S=1&lang=EN shows that 3-5-2 appears to be the best tactic on the win/loss ratio. As long as you keep hammering away with players in good form and as you said changing the playmaker you can really abuse the system and raise you ranking. i would add that making you team a 1-5-7-3 meaning that picking 3-5-2 (plus a keeper) means that you are constantly picking your best team under a 3-5-2, which i feel the system rewards you for.

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Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-11-11 21:17:06 Citera Svara This was the team and when they were in full swing they went a fair few straight wins. http://www.xperteleven.com/players.aspx?TeamID=617143&Boost=0&dh=1 Flugel obviously did the same to get his last Xpert team. As well as the ranking system being fucked so that you score highly for the same tactics every game from the outside I don't think there was enough downside in performance when you're countered anything other than perfectly as the constant in your own team still wins through. I think what Chrille may have done is play wing plays as default but through plays whenever opponent "spied" on his team and only a decent opponent would have noticed this.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan gildar [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [gildar] Blev medlem: 2004-02-08 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2009-11-12 00:19:59 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 Ok first thing dont trust statistic but at this moment i think much i rules has been screwed up or down due to new implants and so on. Nothing particulary with that. The ground rules of course is correct in some way. I have done many tests about many variables in the game and i think its advantage to mark someone. Even if not play maker. From statistic. That you have linked to or write i suppose is the latest said from the crew. You use to be up in date. I would never mark a lousy player but to mark someone ought to be a good choice. Yes, most interesting quotes are old and we generally don't know to what extent they apply today. But, still, the crew has a constant high workload just keeping the site running and handling support issues, so in many cases I think they are very reluctant to change things that work. One of the things I like about this game is that almost everything has two sides, use it correctly and at the right time and you will benefit, use it in the wrong way and you'll suffer from it. This is the way it has been from the start and it is obviously the way Iwe wants it. Therefore I just don't see the logic in changing for example the marking of players - or use of playmaker - from this way to make it an option that is almost always good and you'd have to be dumb (or a newbie) not to use in most cases. Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 When it comes to mark forward i agree it has important affect. But 75% of the chances will not result i something?! This number i put question mark on.

Found the link http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx? threadID=179182&forumid=2&read=1&search=1&messageid=179202#179202 Of course, 75% of the chances that player is involved in doesn't equal 75% of the chances for the whole team!

~~ Team Sweden ~~ just nu *nst* bst i vrlden! :) Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-11-12 10:58:50 Citera Svara If it's been removed though, then the lad at N#2 can't be getting it from his SQs. unless he still has games in his cycle from points picked up through SQ.

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... 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Frfattare Meddelande SuperSprint [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [SuperSprint] Blev medlem: 2006-07-07 Svar till: gildar Skrivet: 2009-11-12 13:33:09 Uppdaterat: 2009-11-12 13:34:14 Citera Svara Mint link gildar So it's that high... You can always question if it has changed since then. But let's dig this out from the article "Understanding the Tactics": Link to refresh your memory: http://www.xperteleven.com/xpertdaily.aspx?DartID=332&S=3&lang=EN Nevertheless its easy to get an idea of that you have set the perfect tactics if you only look at the most obvious choices as Off.Strategy, Def.Strategy, Playmaker and Defence against. If you hit those perfect its easy to think that you made everything right Conclusion: "We will review the tactical space and restore the importance of some of the more obvious tactical settings if needed. These changes will be done gradually and it isn't likely you will notice anything on the short term but you might do it in the long term." It wouldn't surprise me that marking the right playmaker is the single most important tactical choice in this game nowadays. So it could be the same or even more important than this quote says. Has anyone "noticed a chance in the long term"?

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2005-06-23 Svar till: SuperSprint Skrivet: 2009-11-27 13:40:30 Citera Svara Some good stuff on here chaps and a few older conversations i could have chipped in on but i won't backtrack too far now. I am a reasonable tactician but i still have plenty to learn and it looks like this league is a great place to pick up bits and pieces. What's everyones opinions on playing offsides with a ref with low S and high H values. Someone along the lines of Constance Paine (S2, H9) , George Buske (S2, H9) , Tage Duvhage (S1, H8) I wouldn't usually do it myself as i'd have said the skill is too low for them to get it right, however i recall a post on here which i read the other day about particular refs and disallowed goals. I had Constance Paine in my last game against Mr Men and Bedazzledaz played offsides. I had a 94th min goal disallowed to equalise. Did anyone ever look at stats on whch refs this is most likely to happen with as it seemed to be suggested that certain refs were more likely in the previous post (think it was Audub)?

That's what I'm talking about! Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Tyr775 Skrivet: 2009-11-27 15:48:10 Citera Svara I'm sure there is a link floating aroudn somewhere with that sort of information, I think Gildar might have posted it. I think the trouble with looking at stats for offside, is that there are 2 reasons to call off side, because it is offside, and because your an arsehole ref and just want to. And does whether you play offside trap affect whether both of these are called or not. For me those 3 refs would be high on the list of refs who get the offside call wrong the most, and are basically the most random for offside. However I find the effects of the offside trap too minimal to get a proper feel for.

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Ursprungligen postat av: Tyr775 Some good stuff on here chaps and a few older conversations i could have chipped in on but i won't backtrack too far now. I am a reasonable tactician but i still have plenty to learn and it looks like this league is a great place to pick up bits and pieces. What's everyones opinions on playing offsides with a ref with low S and high H values. Someone along the lines of Constance Paine (S2, H9) , George Buske (S2, H9) , Tage Duvhage (S1, H8) I wouldn't usually do it myself as i'd have said the skill is too low for them to get it right, however i recall a post on here which i read the other day about particular refs and disallowed goals. I had Constance Paine in my last game against Mr Men and Bedazzledaz played offsides. I had a 94th min goal disallowed to equalise. Did anyone ever look at stats on whch refs this is most likely to happen with as it seemed to be suggested that certain refs were more likely in the previous post (think it was Audub)? http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pg4_f0ML31K-XOItOIft-EQ&output=html That's gildar's spreadsheet with the refs in that Neo speaks of.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-12-07 11:19:43 Citera Svara What's peoples thoughts on form over skill? I think it's one of the trickiest things to figure out sometimes. Things like do you play a 15 skill mid with 8 form or a 9 skill mid with 20 form? Obviously things like ave age come into play aswell but if it's not a factor and it's straight skill over form sometimes I get a bit stuck. In my cup game today, I have set up 5-4-1 offensive (my keeper and defence are high on form) but my 15 skill mid is on 8 form, now I'm thinking of taking him out and playing 5-3-2 with a 12 skill striker in his place who is on 12 form. Doing that would make me totally change the tactics I have set up. It's moments like this that lead to last minute changes and fuck ups!

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Svara I had similar situation last night.. play 15skill mid on 8form or 24/12 striker on 18 form.. which would mean 442 over 451.. opted for the 15skill who played to 15bars though dropped to 6form after the match I reckon yours will play between 13-15 bars.. WB might bring him to skill... so i'd go for the formation/tactic you prefer.

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Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-12-07 12:40:01 Citera Svara Aye! The 15 skiller on 8 form played to a 16 and went up to 11 form so good shit all round. Disappointed I didn't score more though as had 7 chances but it's all about the win.

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Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05

Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-12-07 14:29:07 Citera Svara Played Ash!

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-12-07 15:29:31 Citera Svara Cheers Lads Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Careful though? Yeah but had a 9 harsh ref and I'm hoping to win my league and get into the top div this season (as well as try for the cup) so need as many players as possible not to get cards. a 9H ref is the only one I definately play careful with unless in an extremely crucial game.

Do something special http://www.blood.co.uk/platelets/ Flytta till verst p sidan Tyr775 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Tyr775] Blev medlem: 2005-06-23 Svar till: Saint_Ash Skrivet: 2009-12-07 16:30:39 Citera Svara I have seen various calculations for form vs skill but the one i tend to use and i know this will contradict some of you as i have seen different values written in here by other managers is 1 skill bar = 4 form bars. I find that works for me as a rule of thumb, though i've often seen 3 bars written. To that end an 8 skiller to get to 15 skill would need an aditional 28 form bars and thus should never be picked ahead of him unless other factors (age, or ME) are the prime objective. Thats my 2 penneth

That's what I'm talking about! Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Tyr775 Skrivet: 2009-12-07 16:34:24 Citera Svara I don't really have a rule of thumb.. you just learn to feel how the player will perform at certain levels... then you pick according to instinct.. well I do anyway..

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Saint_Ash [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Saint_Ash] Blev medlem: 2007-02-21 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-12-07 18:05:04 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Bejjita I don't really have a rule of thumb.. you just learn to feel how the player will perform at certain levels... then you pick according to instinct.. well I do anyway.. Pretty much what I did mate!

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A question that perhaps most know the answer to?? Terry and I were searching for some Trainers today and i noticed something that I had before but dont have an answer for. When in the transfer market why do players appear when 'None of the special qualities shown above' is selected that don't when its not? As an example if you look in the Xpert transfer market and select Forwards with max/min age of 18 and max/min skill of 4 and set to Price then there is nothing between 138 100 and 169 100. If you then select 'None of the special qualities shown above' then 6 players appear between the 151 400 and 154 800 price point. Probably a simple answer but I would like to know.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Stevejohnston [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Stevejohnston] Blev medlem: 2008-09-18 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-12-07 23:43:22 Citera Svara Just looked at that very strange! However change from price to deadline and the players between those values appear?? Still trying to work out why though Flytta till verst p sidan Tyr775 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Tyr775] Blev medlem: 2005-06-23 Svar till: Stevejohnston Skrivet: 2009-12-08 10:33:51 Citera Svara I'll experiment with this later on, odd one that. There are things n the transfer market that are hidden i believe. Just ask hippo lord doom. He knows more than he lets on.

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Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Tyr775 Skrivet: 2009-12-10 14:48:19 Uppdaterat: 2009-12-10 14:49:33 Citera Svara Surprisingly all the recent stuff about playmakers and a few other things just appeared in the J4G league forum.

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... 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Frfattare Meddelande Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2009-12-10 14:54:14 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Basilbrush303 A question that perhaps most know the answer to?? Terry and I were searching for some Trainers today and i noticed something that I had before but dont have an answer for. When in the transfer market why do players appear when 'None of the special qualities shown above' is selected that don't when its not? As an example if you look in the Xpert transfer market and select Forwards with max/min age of 18 and max/min skill of 4 and set to Price then there is nothing between 138 100 and 169 100. If you then select 'None of the special qualities shown above' then 6 players appear between the 151 400 and 154 800 price point. Probably a simple answer but I would like to know.

Only 80 players appear, if there are 100 18/4's then 20 will not show up, filter it down to less than 80 and you get the full list of what you have searched for.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Roberto11x [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Roberto11x] Blev medlem: 2007-04-28 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-12-15 14:11:15 Citera Svara Forgive me if this question has come up before, but has anyone else noticed a significant drop off in the rate at which Freekicks are converted? Its not a recent thing, more something that I've been noticing over the last year or so. I'm sure when I started out in this

game, freekicks were accounting for a quarter to a third of my goals. But these days it seems much harder to score, even with highly skilled freekick takers. It used to be that a decent free-kick taker was the difference between a title winning team and the runners up, but I'm seeing a lot more teams doing well with no specialists in the team. Anyone else noticed this, or am a just yearning for the goold old days? Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Roberto11x Skrivet: 2009-12-15 14:26:51 Citera Svara I kind of thought maybe the same thing. Current stats (last 15 league games) from my Xpert team... Where, Goals For, Goals Against Penalty, 13.3%, 6.2% Freekick directly into the net, 0.0%, 0.0% Set piece freekick, 0.0%, 6.2% Long range shot, 20.0%, 12.5% Shot in the penalty area, 26.7%, 18.8% Header from a cross, 26.7%, 25.0% Header after a corner, 6.7%, 18.8% Shot after a corner, 0.0%, 0.0% Breakaway, 6.7%, 12.5% Own goal, 0.0%, 0.0%

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Rosscoe [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Rosscoe] Blev medlem: 2006-12-20 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-12-15 15:40:18 Citera Svara I would tend to agree that there has been a change over the years. Not a recent one, as you say. I reckon the typical conversion rate is about half that of a regular chance. Maybe the odds are NOT the same for: * A 6 skill FK taker v a 6 skill keeper * A 16 skill FK taker v a 16 skill keeper I have assumed the odds ARE the same, but if they are not, it might explain why as your teams get better, you score proportionaetly fewer free kicks...

Yes, I am a Statto. Flytta till verst p sidan Dmandmythdledge [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Dmandmythdledge] Blev medlem: 2006-06-04 Svar till: Rosscoe Skrivet: 2009-12-15 15:44:18 Citera Svara Don't know if this would apply to the free kick SQ as it is know how the skill value for free kicks works but iwe has said before that SQs have more of an effect the higher skilled the player so perhaps you are right in what you are saying and the higher the skill of the FK taker the higher the chance of scoring even against a same skilled keeper?

The Chaos Cartel...simply the best Free the Karlos 1 Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Roberto11x Skrivet: 2009-12-15 17:56:21 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Roberto11x Forgive me if this question has come up before, but has anyone else noticed a significant drop off in the rate at which Freekicks are converted? Its not a recent thing, more something that I've been noticing over the last year or so. I'm sure when I started out in this game, freekicks were accounting for a quarter to a third of my goals. But these days it seems much harder to score, even with highly skilled freekick takers. It used to be that a decent free-kick taker was the difference between a title winning team and the runners up, but I'm seeing a lot more teams doing well with no specialists in the team. Anyone else noticed this, or am a just yearning for the goold old days?

Not at all, check out Zach Porter in Incognito and Naithun Coles in my Coles side, monsters.

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[Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-12-15 18:20:44 Citera Svara It is interesting tho...I haven't scored many FK goals either...today I had 4 chances I think with a 10 skill FK taker over a marked 8 skill keeper and I didn't convert a single one of them which I thought was really odd.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2009-12-15 18:48:14 Uppdaterat: 2009-12-15 18:48:35 Citera Svara I reckon it's sensible to think it's been toned down by iwe, it was common knowledge that FKs were to heavy a source of goals on here & I wouldn't be suprised at all that it's less constructive now, this is also why I believe using careful is even harder than say 6 months ago to win by, which I mentioned the other day in the thread below about gaining less set pieces against normal.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Rbjayb [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Rbjayb] Blev medlem: 2007-07-08 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-12-15 19:01:46 Citera Svara last season in my Xpert side Dawlish my free kick taker scored 7,six of which were free kicks and this season a pittance

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MUFC, History makers, 19 titles Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-12-15 19:01:50 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster ..careful is even harder than say 6 months ago to win by, which I mentioned the other day in the thread below about gaining less set pieces against normal. I'd say annecdotally that sounds a pretty fair summary of what it feels like is happening.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Roberto11x [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Roberto11x] Blev medlem: 2007-04-28 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-12-15 20:01:01 Citera Svara Some interesting points, and Id definitely have to agree regarding careful. I rarely use it at all anymore, primarily because the freekick advantage seems to have been negated. I guess if you think of it in real football terms (never a wise idea, I know), then if you tell your players to play more carefully then they are going to shirk more challengers rather than stay on the ball and win freekicks. No idea if the X11 game engine is set up that way, but it might explain what Duffster is saying about careful yielding less set pieces You used to see threads in the main forum with people complaining about how easy it was to just buy a high skill (but usually old) freekick taker and keeper then just go ahead and dominate. But what used to be a guaranteed source of goals, now seems to be more of a novelty. Im quite happy benching Daniel Walker in my Knights team when I have to, as he scores so rarely from set-pieces that the team doesnt miss him! I havent noticed a drop off for demand for freekick players on the transfer market though. Their prices are as inflated as ever Flytta till verst p sidan gildar [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [gildar] Blev medlem: 2004-02-08 Svar till: Roberto11x Skrivet: 2009-12-15 20:06:17 Uppdaterat: 2009-12-15 20:57:54 Citera

Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Roberto11x You used to see threads in the main forum with people complaining about how easy it was to just buy a high skill (but usually old) freekick taker and keeper then just go ahead and dominate. My old, high skilled freekicker in the Country Club has scored 15 goals in 30 games. Not bad for a defender...

~~ Team Sweden ~~ just nu *nst* bst i vrlden! :) Flytta till verst p sidan franzie [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2005-05-25 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-12-15 20:07:52 Citera Svara Somewhere I read about that the importance should be reduced. Wasn't it about same time as the other changes in injuries and aggressivity choises? Or I''m dreaming? However, also I noticed that my teams scored less freekicks last winter. Flytta till verst p sidan ____Jeff [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [____Jeff] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-12-16 00:49:41 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster I reckon it's sensible to think it's been toned down by iwe, it was common knowledge that FKs were to heavy a source of goals on here & I wouldn't be suprised at all that it's less constructive now,. I hope this isn't true. I have just bought myself a squad of FKers hopeing to make millions in a few seasons

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Svara Conversely, does anyone think the benefit of SQ has increased at all?? e.g. Alexander112's team (previously Chrille's ranking project) were comfortably the weakest team in his Div3 Final League group last season yet he manages to get them promoted playing the same formation and tactics (same tactics last time I bought some of his reports). Whilst there's obvious benefit in playing to your strengths and being consistent a team that's listed as 9 skill and was ranked 6th in the group in average ratings should not be able to beat teams with higher performance on a consistent basis unless there's a significant benefit elsewhere. Their listing as weakest team is extended further when you look at the starting 11 they field against other starting 11's. Mr Madness averaged 6.3 chances per game for vs. 3.5 chances per game against last season and the emphasis of strong wing plays can be seen from 58,4% of goals coming from headers. It's always been stated by the crew that SQ merley makes a player specialised rather than better but does this make sense when a player has multiple SQ?? Is it just consistency that allows such teams to outperform everyone else or does the effect of their SQ have a much greater benefit than we're led to believe?? It's not just Mr Madness, every similar team with the same approach I've seen has similar results. http://www.xperteleven.com/vipClubStats.aspx?TeamID=37593&Sel=GEN&dh=1

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2009-12-16 13:14:19 Citera Svara When I started in C24, I made sure most of my players all had an SQ, to get a better feel for them. IMO when used correctly, SQs add about 1/3 to 1/2 a skill bar. A great example of this is RicardoDaLepp, he's always doing well with a weak team, but his team is always full of SQs. While Ricardo is a brilliant manager, I've always thought he did better than he should have done, and now I think this is down to his SQ approach. I think the same can be said of Mr.Madness.

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Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2009-12-16 13:52:36 Citera Svara http://www.xperteleven.com/viewLeagueMessageN.aspx?threadID=5378689&read=1&Lnr=0&dh=4

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2009-12-16 13:59:45 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Bejjita http://www.xperteleven.com/viewLeagueMessageN.aspx?threadID=5378689&read=1&Lnr=0&dh=4 Thanks, I'd forgotten this debate

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan franzie [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2005-05-25 Svar till: Muskateer Skrivet: 2009-12-18 23:47:58 Uppdaterat: 2009-12-19 00:01:41 Citera Svara Have only read about 1/3 of this thread yet, but the thoughts here of formations and playing style its very interesting. However, sometimes you cant see the forest because all trees. Couldnt it be that easy that described in the rules? That X11 has special tactics (we can call it rules). Not something that should be compared with real football? Ive tried to follow the rules and other statements, and by that I have a thought why 3-5-2 is so good in this game. Simply; to score goals you need to create chances, to create chances you need to have good ball possession or good midfield. With 3-5-2 you often have both. Then its also up to having a defensive that can provide chances backwards. Forwards mostly affect the efficiency on goal scoring. But of course that not so simple, many things affect it. Another thing (also described in the rules) is that more defensive give you more ball possession (which can give you more chances even if a defensive style decreases chances both ways). Therefore many feel that its better playing a little more defensive. And therefore, its often like there is some stone/bag/scissors-game.

But again, that not that simple, if you play defensive you have by several reasons hard to reach all the way to top. All its about having a very good balance. Here we also have tools like long balls and ball pressure, trying to get the balance to you. Ive always played by feelings, of course always tried to think about as many aspects as possible, but have never been counting figures(/numbers/stats?). Im good at mathematics, analysis and creativity, but very lousy (and lazy) at saving facts. :/ It seems to be a lot of dedicated and sharp-minded managers here. So Im very pleased if you give some feed back if your experiences/stats somehow can prove or deny my thoughts somehow. Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: franzie Skrivet: 2009-12-28 21:53:18 Uppdaterat: 2009-12-28 21:55:17 Citera Svara OK, so here's a question. We know pretty much there's no such thing as perfect tactics but please free to post what you feel is your closest to your perfect game. The reason I ask is I had a monster game off my cycle today and suprisingly although I didn't win it was comfortably the highest scoring game in my cycle with 18 points. I lost a lot of my old data when I had a load of uber-games but in the last year I've not been able to top 18 and it's very rare for me to get more than 16 points even with an away win with a nice set-up. My playmaker was my best player but the only header SQ in my team is in defence so potentially I believe tactics were still not perfect even if I'd squeeked a goal and picked up another 2 or 3 points for the result. I was at least 2-3 players off picking my strongest starting eleven too. http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6910193&dh=1 Result 0-0, Chances 2-3, Ref S5H9 4-4-2 << Formation >> 4-5-1 Normal << Playing style >> Cautious Long range shots << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Tighten the centre No << Prepared >> Yes Careful << Aggression >> Careful No << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> Yes No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Marcos Mereiles << Playmaker >> Antonino Pagliarini Pra Tantasatityanon << Tightly marked >> Marcos Mereiles Marinho da Silva << Captain >> Antonino Pagliarini ps I'm the away team.

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By the way, do you have a thread about ranking points here? It would be interesting then to debate ie motw points. Now I know too little about ranking points. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: franzie Skrivet: 2009-12-29 01:36:28 Citera Svara I think this is the thread Franzie. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewLeagueMessageN.aspx?threadID=5096899&read=1&Lnr=0&dh=4

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan franzie [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2005-05-25 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2009-12-29 01:42:01 Citera Svara Thanks! Another loooong thread to read then. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: franzie Skrivet: 2010-01-12 18:43:05 Citera Svara Anyone ever had a number of diva's in their sqaud or more specific in one area of the team? and had them work well together on values? I have a team I use for testing out tactics etc... atm i'm just building up some youth to sell on and create a team with certain SQ for each area to try out.... anways i have 5 diva's in this team, one in particular has impressed me my DEF Timothy Leary, he'll prob double this season, but his peformance each match is superb & consistent... bit like my freekick DEF in here ZZ.... Today I used all 5 of them for the first time in a line-up the 2 in defence didn't connect great as I already knew.... but look at the value for the midfield trio.....http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7221089&dh=3 3 Diva's still manage to pull the value in a postive way?

Anyone had that many in one area without TW being destroyed out of interest?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Waynederanged [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Waynederanged] Blev medlem: 2006-08-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-01-12 18:55:15 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster ...one in particular has impressed me my DEF Timothy Leary... Made quite an impression on me too! Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Waynederanged Skrivet: 2010-01-12 18:57:36 Citera Svara Turn on, tune in, drop out...

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-01-12 19:50:12 Citera Svara nope, that's incredibly lucky, lol. I've had a diva in my xpert side for over a year now, and we still can't get up to 20 teamwork...

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-01-12 21:34:15 Citera Svara In this team my keeper and 1 of my defenders are both divas. if you look at the xpert team for the first game of the season you will see that i own the back line. teamwork values currently at 17. i never worry about divas if they are young or old but will not touch them in between.

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2010-02-24 21:57:41 Citera Svara Is it just my imagination or have youth talents been getting a bit better recently?

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Sevenman [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Sevenman] Blev medlem: 2008-04-27 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2010-02-24 21:58:28 Citera

Svara If you regard 17/2 and 19/4 as better then yes.

7 (seven) is the natural number following 6 and preceding 8 Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2010-02-24 22:11:47 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Basilbrush303 Is it just my imagination or have youth talents been getting a bit better recently? Basil I posted in the scribble the other day as I'd seen a 16/5 from the youth team and at the same time there were 3 17/6's all direct from the youth coach on the Xpert market. I also saw some guy (smith88?) had two 16/4's (and a 17/4) in two weeks in his Xpert team. There was a time you wouldn't find a 17/6 on the Xpert market unless he was a 16/4 that had double jumped seems much better all of a sudden. ps. It's December 2008 since I last got a yoof of equivalent to 17/4 in my Xpert team

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: GRASSBANDITS Skrivet: 2010-02-25 18:01:03 Citera Svara Received an 18/5 youth with Skultorp.. don't recall my last decent youth in the official leagues prior to it.

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Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2010-02-25 18:22:15 Citera Svara I got a 16/4 last week with my TCC team, but had plenty of mediocre youth inbetween across my other teams. Perhaps "if" it was adjusted few month ago to reduce skill the lower the age & wipe out 16/6 youths then maybe they've thought the skill being dished out since that change was poor and have since increased some decent skill into the system. I'm not sure though, isn't something i've paid any great attention too.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2010-02-25 21:00:17 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Basilbrush303 Is it just my imagination or have youth talents been getting a bit better recently? Feels like more 18/4, 19/4 and lesser great talents?! But only to gratualte thoose who gets better talents.

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Svara Strange thing in todays c24 game. I was the away team and played 532, home team played 541. I accidentally choose pressure instead of long balls. I didnt mark his playmaker. My three midfielders are skill 13-9-8 and his were 13-12-9-8. I was very surprised to see that i won the chances with 1-5. Possession was 51-49. Any thoughts? Flytta till verst p sidan Dmandmythdledge [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Dmandmythdledge] Blev medlem: 2006-06-04 Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2010-03-05 00:48:29 Citera Svara Obviously the match ratings would have been effected by what happened in the match but would it have been possible that with the form of each midfield before the game that you would have only been a small bit weaker meaning that your use of pressure would have strengthened your midfield rather than weakening by using it when you would be completely overrun? Your defence was stronger than his which would have helped with preventing chances been created but again those ratings could have been heavily effected by what happened in the match. What playing styles did both teams use?

The Chaos Cartel...simply the best Free the Karlos 1 Flytta till verst p sidan PrinceCharming77 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] Blev medlem: 2007-09-24 Svar till: Dmandmythdledge Skrivet: 2010-03-05 21:01:46 Citera Svara He played normal and I played defensive and both of us used pressure. Its very strange that possession was almost equal since both of us pressuerd, he had one more guy in the midfield and was a little better skillwise. Perhaps the strikes toke a step back to the midfield because of my defensive playying style. I useally never pressure with three in the mid in situations like this. Perhaps its time to rethink that a little bit. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18

Svar till: PrinceCharming77 Skrivet: 2010-03-06 02:57:16 Citera Svara I don't get this at all, abeit it is a good thing for me...I got 16 manager points from my last game and I just do not see it... http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7665520&dh=1 4-4-2 << Formation >> 4-5-1 Cautious << Playing style >> Normal Long range shots << Offence >> Long range shots Normal << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Careful << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Christopher Thon << Playmaker >> Iain Facey None << Tightly marked >> Tony Vanberg Hans-Erik Fornander << Captain >> Tim Lindahl I'm on the right...to me these seem relatively pedestrian, ref was 3,6...I had used the 451 twice in the 3-set and my opponent had used 442 twice in his 3-set...the teams are about even strength, my starting 11 was probably stronger...anyone have any ideas?

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-03-08 08:40:10 Citera Svara I think 16 points is deserved here, you've done a few things I like: Marking his best striker when the other one was shit, and you marked a striker with LRS, nice move considering his attacking style. Basically there goes his attack. Also I liked your playing style in this situation, you want to play the football in your midfield, and that's soemthing normal does, especially when he's playing cautious. Winning and having more chances away from home, gets you a few points. (They all add up). As does you getting away with 4-5-1, and getting his 4-4-2, and pressuring his LRS (But you know this). Maybe Normal and not Careful got you some points here, a 3.6 ref is one of those refs we don't really like, but it's still a good ref to think about cheat and careful with, but maybe Normal is better. (I'm not really sure - seems pretty borderline to me) You certainly get away with Normal here, maybe because you went LRS, Normal was a good idea to help strengthen your midfield. He's also a pretty strong side, so you'll get a few extra point for that.

Finally was Iain Facey a cheater? I think you'd get extra for cheating with a cheater as your PM. It's certainly a tactic I love. All in all, that seems pretty close to perfect to me, if I could change one thing, it would be the obvious TTC defence, other than that I don't really see too many improvements you could make.

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2010-03-08 22:53:23 Citera Svara I think I had good tactics in this game, but I don't think it was the best game I've ever had tactically, yet here is this huge point tally. Thanks for the comments tho, maybe they are better than I first thought.

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... 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Frfattare Meddelande Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-03-10 20:49:09 Citera Svara Not perfect Zinko, don't like marking strikers when they use LRS with more than one upfront, and obviously you used LRS when they pressured, but apart from that you did very well sir, but if I am honest, I don't know how these tactical points work, I've never worked any of my games out yet! Will be interesting and will start tracking once my rank decreases.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2010-03-10 20:51:58 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Neowhite I think 16 points is deserved here, you've done a few things I like: Marking his best striker when the other one was shit, and you marked a striker with LRS, nice move considering his attacking style. Basically there goes his attack.

Disagree, although the fact he only had one good striker adds weight to your decision. Ursprungligen postat av: Neowhite Also I liked your playing style in this situation, you want to play the football in your midfield, and that's soemthing normal does, especially when he's playing cautious. Agree, excellent choice Zink. Ursprungligen postat av: Neowhite Winning and having more chances away from home, gets you a few points. (They all add up). As does you getting away with 4-5-1, and getting his 4-4-2, and pressuring his LRS (But you know this). Yup.. Ursprungligen postat av: Neowhite Maybe Normal and not Careful got you some points here, a 3.6 ref is one of those refs we don't really like, but it's still a good ref to think about cheat and careful with, but maybe Normal is better. (I'm not really sure - seems pretty borderline to me) You certainly get away with Normal here, maybe because you went LRS, Normal was a good idea to help strengthen your midfield. Normal would always be my first choice with this ref.. so I agree it is fine.

Ursprungligen postat av: Neowhite All in all, that seems pretty close to perfect to me, if I could change one thing, it would be the obvious TTC defence, other than that I don't really see too many improvements you could make. If it were me it'd be in priority order: Marking the PM Using TTC Changing attack style. But it is all quite trivial and are just small blips on a good tactical performance.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-03-10 20:53:09 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster Anyone ever had a number of diva's in their sqaud or more specific in one area of the team? and had them work well together on values? I have a team I use for testing out tactics etc... atm i'm just building up some youth to sell on and create a team with certain SQ for each area to try out.... anways i have 5 diva's in this team, one in particular has impressed me my DEF Timothy Leary, he'll prob double this season, but his peformance each match is superb & consistent... bit like my freekick DEF in here ZZ.... Today I used all 5 of them for the first time in a line-up the 2 in defence didn't connect great as I already knew.... but look

at the value for the midfield trio.....http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7221089&dh=3 3 Diva's still manage to pull the value in a postive way? Anyone had that many in one area without TW being destroyed out of interest? This Depor side had about 4 Diva's in or so and they gelled pretty quick, I think it is very much a luck thing in terms of how they gel, I will pull you out some proof and analysis sometime soon, but yeah the team did well, and I have several diva defenders (or did rather, but have some new ones now ).

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2010-03-10 22:33:48 Citera Svara Thanks for the feedback, Nathan. This opponent was actually relatively hard to read because he is the only other manager in a sea of spastics that is my division, lolz. So it is hard to tell what he really likes to do since the rest of the managers are standing still so it makes sense to adjust to them, rather than playing to strengths if you follow what I'm saying. I knew I'd have him in the midfield as he had a few players missing (hence the LRS), and that striker was the only player up front that scared me. Add to that the usual PM he goes with was injured and I thought prep 442, mark the best striker just in case he tried to match my 451 with his own. I really expected him to prep 451 and almost went 352 because of that, glad I didn't now!

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-03-10 22:39:12 Citera Svara And thank you for the post-match analysis. Always better to get a good view of a match when I have this information.. makes a lot of your choices more justified.. LRS seemed practical now, and already mentioned about marking the striker.. I mean, regardless, what you did was clearly good, as evidenced by result and tactical points, so it's all good.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2010-03-31 15:22:42 Citera Svara So what formation/style would you want to use against a likely 352/defensive in order to get you 2 goals + clean sheet?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-04-04 13:27:18 Citera Svara Does anyone have experience with bruise and the booking count? I barely use bruise and can't find much to see the card count, i'd like to use it in a must win game but i can't really afford any bookings. Bruise for low values I 'm after.. [Ref 2/1]

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan zanza67 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [zanza67] Blev medlem: 2005-01-17 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-04-04 14:05:34 Citera Svara Ca 25% chance to get 1 booking with 2/1. With bruise its ca 33% chance to 1 booking.

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2010-04-04 14:52:12 Citera Svara Cheers Z, not a great difference then & prob worth the use of it.

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Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-04-08 11:30:56 Uppdaterat: 2010-04-08 11:32:19 Citera Svara Nice! Or as we say in swedish "it was so little"

"Inga underverk ro strre n de minsta" "De sger att man ska vara sig sjlv, men det beror ju p vem man r ..." "Man fr gldjas fr det som gick bra" "ven p den gamla goda tiden var det bttre frr..." //Bsta ranking 7 Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: zanza67 Skrivet: 2010-04-08 15:47:40 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: zanza67 "it was so little" Haha, I think Duffs heard that before too...

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-05-03 13:28:20 Citera Svara

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-05-03 13:30:39 Citera Svara We haven't had a topic for a while now..... What about Pressure and yourv thoughts on when best to use it & when not etc... it's an area that has much opinion around it.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-05-03 13:49:53 Citera Svara As a rule of thumb pressure is relative to playing style for me. e.g. If I'm playing 352 offensively I don't use it, and if I'm playing 352 defensively I do use it. Favourite scenario for pressure is 451 LRS and pressure against 433.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Quercus [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Quercus] Blev medlem: 2008-09-14 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-05-03 14:19:50 Citera Svara

Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster We haven't had a topic for a while now..... What about Pressure and yourv thoughts on when best to use it & when not etc... it's an area that has much opinion around it. I have never liked it much and prefer not to play it. I will pressure to directly counter LRS from a strong midfield, or when I am playing 4 or 5 in the middle against what I think will be a like number of equally skilled opposing midfielders. I do not pressure against less in the middle, nor do I pressure against more in the middle when I feel the correct choice is LB. I know that was all very circular, but in essence, I do not pressure unless I feel there is a very good reason to do so and I often attempt to build my teams to punish pressure.

Have a nice day. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: Quercus Skrivet: 2010-05-03 17:18:58 Uppdaterat: 2010-05-03 17:19:14 Citera Svara 1. To counter LRS (although I think TTC is a better tactic). 2. When playing LRS 3. With 5 in the middle I basically always play pressure. If you're playing 5 in the middle, you're basically trying to win the midfield battle with 5, so pressure is almost always a must. 4. With 4 in the middle, when I think I'm playing another formation with 4 in the middle, or with 5 in the middle and I'm trying to avoid being overrun. 5. With a weaker side, I find pressure is more effective. 6. If in doubt.

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2010-05-03 18:53:44 Citera Svara This was in my notes.. in response to a thread in the main forum were someone had made a point against [Papabear I

think] never to use pressure against LB... which I never got around to posting... post it here because I know not all agree in this area. Just to throw you another take on that area of pressure... Wouldn't it be fair to say possession is key here with the 5 v LB? if you want to place importance on 5 in the MF against a reduced MF of say 3 with LB, then would you not try and reduce the opponents tactic of LB by gaining more control over the game thus decreasing their tactic/formation & increasing your own? That one area I reckon you got to win it with pressure it's more positive than allowing the LB team more time on their tactic to reduce the MF when you overlook pressure. It's based around the situation/tacics dependant of course, but the LB v Pressure area alone it's better to use it than not imo, based on 5 in the middle.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-05-20 18:44:31 Citera Svara I always get nervous that we will lose this thread...it is just priceless...maybe we should pin it? I'll let Duffs make the call tho, hate it when assistants pin threads in my leagues, just ask Sinik.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-05-23 01:50:49 Citera Svara And I hate t000 many pinned threads.. Kind of thread I hope is always prominent, 'bout time it was fired up again. We do lose the Hard ATrainer fred though.. which was harsh. Papa - Above was a reply to you in main forums before you hooked up here that I didn't get posting..

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Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-05-23 04:24:55 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Colinzink hate it when assistants pin threads in my leagues, just ask Sinik. haha, but guess what..I persevered and now it's pinned!

The next sentence is false. The previous sentence is true. Flytta till verst p sidan PapaBear [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [PapaBear] Blev medlem: 2008-11-16 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-05-23 12:05:06 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster This was in my notes.. in response to a thread in the main forum were someone had made a point against [Papabear I think] never to use pressure against LB... which I never got around to posting... post it here because I know not all agree in this area. Just to throw you another take on that area of pressure... Wouldn't it be fair to say possession is key here with the 5 v LB? if you want to place importance on 5 in the MF against a reduced MF of say 3 with LB, then would you not try and reduce the opponents tactic of LB by gaining more control over the game thus decreasing their tactic/formation & increasing your own? That one area I reckon you got to win it with pressure it's more positive than allowing the LB team more time on their tactic to reduce the MF when you overlook pressure. It's based around the situation/tacics dependant of course, but the LB v Pressure area alone it's better to use it than not imo, based on 5 in the middle.

An interesting take on it. I haven't seen any clarification from Iwe to make it an clearer unless others have? My number one thing with pressure and LB is that pressure is a defensive tactic (i.e. trying to win back possession) and LB is an offensive tactic (i.e. trying to by-pass the midfield with the ball). I feel too many people often think pressure is an offensive tactic, it only creates possession used as a defensive tactic used in the right situation. Loads of people say you can't use both together as one counteracts the other, I think that's bollocks. If you have 5 in midfield to the other teams 3 or 4 then you will automatically win your share of possession by out numbering then, you don't need to pressure them to win the ball more as well. Why have 5 guys running round like headless chickens trying to close down 3 and getting tired at the end of the game? It should work the other way, either when your outnumbered or underskilled with the same numbers you want to reduce the opponents midfields time on the ball so they have less influence on the game. Using a real life analogy, if you were watching an FA Cup tie with a Prem League team (say Chelsea playing a 4-5-1) against a non league team, which set of players would you expect to see pressuring the ball carrier? Not Chelsea. It's always the weakest team which does it to disrupt the better players and to try and give them an edge. Which team played pressure when Man Utd lost to Leeds this season? Use it because you're trying to make up a difference in quality

between two teams, either because you have a shit team or you are playing 3 in the midfield with LB. On LB I've always seen it as something the defenders do and not the midfielders. The equivalent of LB for midfielders is through plays, midfielders doing LB's should just be loads of goal kicks. I have always thought rightly or wrongly that pressure was for midfielders only as the rules refer to winniing the midfield battle, I suppose it could work for defenders but am not too sure. I rarely use pressure, maybe 25% of the time, always against LRS and then depending on the anticipated midfield matchup. I've been done too many times with late goals to wish to do it more often.

He shags who he wants, He shags who he wants, That boy Giggsy, He shags who he wants. Flytta till verst p sidan Neowhite [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Neowhite] Blev medlem: 2007-01-06 Svar till: PapaBear Skrivet: 2010-05-23 18:20:42 Citera Svara That's an interesting take on it Papabear, would you say that pressure is one of the main reasons why some managers are really good with poor teams, but can't win with good sides? The offensive LB, defensive pressure is one thing I've never thought about, and will have to try out. Thanks for the new perspective.

My signature mentions Jarb. Flytta till verst p sidan PapaBear [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [PapaBear] Blev medlem: 2008-11-16 Svar till: Neowhite Skrivet: 2010-05-23 20:22:55 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Neowhite That's an interesting take on it Papabear, would you say that pressure is one of the main reasons why some managers are really good with poor teams, but can't win with good sides? The offensive LB, defensive pressure is one thing I've never thought about, and will have to try out. Thanks for the new perspective. I'm not sure why Neo, I've never had a good team to be able to tell from a personal point of view. Probably a bit of a generalisation tosay it's why some stuggle with good teams. I think some people play pressure as they think it is the 'safe' option to take, I only play it when I feel like I have a genuine reason too. Has served me well so far, but I wish I knew if I

was right with my logic

He shags who he wants, He shags who he wants, That boy Giggsy, He shags who he wants. Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: PapaBear Skrivet: 2010-05-26 17:13:42 Citera Svara comparing the game engine to real life is a fallacy IMO, and it shouldn't be used as an argument...with that out of the way, i agree with you to some extent PapaBear; there's definitely no reason to use pressure if midfield battle has already been won, and by doing so taking unnecessary risks and allowing upsets late in the game for marginal improvements in possession - benefit-cost ratio is simply not big enough to justify its usage in this case. However, establishing whether midfield battle has been won is not so simple or straightforward, and in a way term winning the midfield battle is misleading or very ambiguous at least but i'll return to this in a bit. I do not agree with you on clearly defined division of roles within the team (i.e. defenders are doing this, and midfielders are doing that). IMO roles of defense and midfield are intertwined, as well as roles of midfield and attack, and playing style determines in what way and to what degree, so this must be taken into consideration when deciding whether to pressure or not. like we all know the use of pressure is very complicated issue and there are no clearly defined rules(as far as i know), so to define precisely when or where I use it is a bit problematic, especially since it depends on so many factors. so Ill start with few examples first; if Im in position of team with stronger midfield i don't want to permit my opponent to dictate the tempo and run the show, so in that occasion pressure is necessary tool to disrupt their plans. For example, if opponent is playing 442 defensive + pressure (away from home) i'll probably use pressure, even if i have stronger midfield. In aforementioned case, i simply don't want them keeping the ball (defensive+pressure) and controlling the game, cause if i opted to play with 5 in the middle in the first place then i want the ball as much as possible for the obvious reasons, and by pressuring i'll make sure this happens. On the other hand, if my opponent goes 433 offensive + LB (at home) i probably won't use pressure; by playing offensive and hoofing the ball constantly my opponent will bring the game to me, so no reason for my guys to run all over the place pressuring and decreasing their number/density in the place where the ball is going to come. Ive presented two simplified cases, however use of pressure is much, much more complicated than this. My thinking process behind it can be summarized like this: 1. Deciding what I want to do in the match (i.e. basic idea) <-> team selection & tic-tacs in line with the established plan 2. Weighing all contributing factors based on my set-up and predicted opponents set-up 3. Determining if pressure is needed by comparing the conclusions from step 2 and aims established at step 1 4. Tweaking Step 2 is like putting all influencing factors on a weighing scale; pros on one side and cons on the other. These factors are: relative strengths of midfield, as well as other team parts, whether opponent is using pressure, whether opponent is using LBs, whether Im playing at home or away, formations, playing styles, SQs so for example: Im thinking opponent (at home) will go with 532 cautious (MF skill: 10,10,10), pressure & long-balls and Im planning to use 442 cautious (MF skill: 10,10,10,10), so pressure yes or no? <<<Pros>>>: defensive formation coupled with rather defensive playing style (at home!) & pressure(!) = lot of possession for my opponent and we dont want that. Strong defense (5 defenders) who will help their midfield, both in creating the chances and keeping the ball we dont want that either. 2 attackers - by pressuring we are giving more space at back, and in this case 2 attackers against 4 defenders wont be so lethal. Im playing fairly balanced formation, with not so attacking playing style, so Im thinking I can play pressure without taking a big risk. My opponent has fairly strong midfield compared to

mine, mine is obviously stronger but hes playing at home and he has mighty defense to help them so it might be a problem for me to get hold of the ball, so another pro for pressure. <<<Cons>>>: opponent is using LB, thus giving me possession of the ball which is something I want. <<<Conclusion>>>: Pressure! Obviously there are more pros than cons, i.e. factors favoring the use of pressure, so in this case I would pressure. Like I said, decision about pressure is very complicated and there are no rules since there are so many factors influencing it, that are in the same time interconnected. also the process of selecting pressure(setting tactics in general) requires lot of tweaking, so sometimes after opting for pressure I will adjust playing style, or vice versa. Anyway, this is how I look at it, its hard to describe and explain it but hopefully you get the point -> there are no simple rules such as: if opponent is playing LB then dont use pressure! Its much, much more complicated than that, and this is just my attempt to make sense of it. Cheers. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2010-05-26 17:51:07 Citera Svara When the hell did you start playing X11 again? Anyway, never compare X11 to real life, it's the first step to failure.

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2010-05-26 17:54:00 Citera Svara do you have the rest of the steps?

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05

Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-05-26 17:57:57 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Colinzink do you have the rest of the steps? Nah I worked out real life is not the way to go in this game, turned around, took the other route and became good. I hope Blu3red doesn't mind me posting this, here's our match just recently in TCC, try cracking this tactical puzzle then. http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7761113&dh=3 4-4-2 << Formation >> 4-5-1 Offensive << Playing style >> Defensive Wing plays << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the centre Yes << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> No Yes << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Rory Seabury << Playmaker >> Nadir Husam Saban Kacemi << Tightly marked >> Archibald Pinnock Benedict Sherwood << Captain >> Saban Kacemi Now bare in mind, I was fully preparing for the 4-5-1 here.. so what went through my mind do you reckon.. why LB? Why P? Why both? Why gamble? Did I make the right choice? Could I have done something better?

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2010-05-26 18:15:01 Citera Svara Haha, the full yes ticket, love it. No you won't get me arguing with the 442 lbs and press combo against a stronger midfield. And obviously you should have tightened the wings...go kill yourself now.

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Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-05-26 18:22:03 Citera Svara I don't know why I don't have the balls to play 442 pressure and longballs more often. A while back I used it in back-to-back away games against my two closest rivals for a title and won 0-5 and 2-5

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2010-05-26 18:28:24 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Bejjita When the hell did you start playing X11 again? i'm like that volcano on Iceland, every 10 000 years i spit something out my computer is broken and can't work on my thesis, so i'm using this time to philosophize about x11 Flytta till verst p sidan Dfault [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Dfault] Blev medlem: 2009-05-26 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2010-05-26 22:02:54 Citera Svara I have never used them both in the same, to me it has been a contradicion to both use LB and P. What the h**l have I been doing for the first year on X11. Do not feed me ideas know, I will screw up and fall like a rock on the ranking. NEVER use LB and P in the same game, EOD. Do not have any figures or facts to base my beliefs in other than the rules says Ursprungligen postat av: Rules Long balls:

If you choose to play long balls you will lessen the importance of the midfield for you and your opponent. This tactic can be useful when your opponents's midfield is very strong. If you yourself are playing with a lot of midfielders you should avoid this tactic. Pressure: By putting pressure on the holder of the ball you will strengthen your midfield which should increase your possession of the ball But maybe Im reading them wrong

http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Dfault Skrivet: 2010-05-26 22:06:34 Citera Svara http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx? threadID=3646881&forumid=26&read=1&search=1&messageid=3646881#3646881 Hope that link works and you find it useful.

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan GRASSBANDITS [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [GRASSBANDITS] Blev medlem: 2007-11-15 Svar till: Colinzink Skrivet: 2010-05-26 22:18:14 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Colinzink http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx? threadID=3646881&forumid=26&read=1&search=1&messageid=3646881#3646881 Hope that link works and you find it useful. There's a really really long thread a bit before then if I can find it. I know it's there cos DrFlugel definately called me a cunt in it

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Dfault Skrivet: 2010-05-26 22:28:21 Uppdaterat: 2010-05-26 22:29:12 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Dfault I have never used them both in the same, to me it has been a contradicion to both use LB and P. What the h**l have I been doing for the first year on X11. Do not feed me ideas know, I will screw up and fall like a rock on the ranking. NEVER use LB and P in the same game, EOD. Do not have any figures or facts to base my beliefs in other than the rules says

But maybe Im reading them wrong

http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=7990091&dh=1 3-4-3 << Formation >> 5-3-2 Normal << Playing style >> Defensive Wing plays << Offence >> Wing plays Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal No << Prepared >> Yes Careful << Aggression >> Careful Yes << Long balls >> Yes Yes << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Bogdan Nichita << Playmaker >> Roland Alvbge Ronnie Kerr << Tightly marked >> Bogdan Nichita Hkan Zettervall << Captain >> Michael Berger That is when you don't use it.

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Svara Used two games running by the away team but never again iirc. http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6534390&dh=1 http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=6534375&dh=1 I justified using both at the time as reducing the randomness in the game engine as it will help normalise tactics of both teams and the advantage will lie with the stronger team. Got fuck all tactical points though.

Every time I think we have hit the bottom, the ground opens up again and we fall a bit more. Flytta till verst p sidan Dmandmythdledge [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Dmandmythdledge] Blev medlem: 2006-06-04 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-05-30 15:01:33 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster We haven't had a topic for a while now..... What about Pressure and yourv thoughts on when best to use it & when not etc... it's an area that has much opinion around it. I posted this in CC ages ago, still have it in my notes so may as well lash it out here and see what other people think...

Firstly pressure is the most important counter to long range shots (80% pressure, 20% tighten the centre I think are the figures) so it would be important to use it if you thought your opponent would go for it. There are some situations where I would avoid using pressure vs LRS but I will mention that more later on. I think one of the biggest misconceptions of pressure is that is ALWAYS strengthens your midfield. I don't think this is true in 100% of cases. If the gap of skill between your midfield and your opponent's is quite big I believe using pressure would have a negative effect (same reason while I would not use it against LRS in some situations but I would possibly set up my team differently so I would be able to use it). Think of it as a light heavyweight going up against a super heavyweight; using pressure would be akin to the light heavyweight going in all guns blazing. Pressure can be very useful though in bridging a gap between midfields, once it is not a big one. If my midfield was similar strength to my opponent's I would also use pressure to ensure that I won the midfield battle. Same would apply if I was slightly stronger. If I had a pretty big advantage I would only use it if I was using long range shots as I don't think there would be any need to take the risks that are associated with pressure when I am going to dominate the midfield anyway (LRS is an exception as midfield strength is weighted more than if you used through plays or wing plays). There are some cases where I would press anyway (I would take it by a case by case basis) but I would not take unnecessary risks if I was using three at the back or bruise. Pressure vs long balls... A topic of much disagreement. My take on it is that long balls is more favourable against pressure than not against pressure but with some situations (formations/number of defenders) I would not be too bothered by it. Mainly with three at the back + pressure long balls would be great and strengthened more because of the pressure (e.g. 433 long balls vs 352 pressure). But with four at the back I think it is quite minimal (e.g. 433 long balls vs 451 pressure) and certainly a lot less than the boost the team with 451 would get from using pressure. The problem with the 352 example is that the use of pressure leaves your defence more exposed than if you did not use pressure; 3 at the back is obviously weaker than 4 and then add in that your opponent is focusing their attack on your defence and not your midfield and you can see the problem with it.

Pressure with three at the back is something I've touched on already. I've said a decent bit about it already so not much more to add only that I would only use pressure with three at the back unless absolutely necessary and definitely not against long balls (although I would not use three at the back if I thought long balls were coming ). Pressure and bruise as a combo...I don't have any experience with the fall backs of this so can't really comment on it other than a lot of top managers would not use these two together. Some thing to watch out for anyway. Hope that helps Rankine, I don't think I left out anything I meant to say. EDIT: I did. The use of long balls and pressure are independent to each other so do not be afraid to use them both at the same time if you think it is necessary. The only thing I will say on this is that if you are using long balls it is likely that your midfield would not be strong enough to use pressure but in some situations you may find you will use both (e.g. with 442 vs 352). Also I would use long balls if the relative strength of my forwards compared to my opponent's defence is greater than the relative strength between our midfields. So I may only have a slight advantage in midfield but a bigger one upfront. In that situation I would more than likely use both.

The Chaos Cartel...simply the best Free the Karlos 1 Flytta till verst p sidan Mistra [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Mistra] Blev medlem: 2007-08-17 Svar till: Dmandmythdledge Skrivet: 2010-09-01 16:13:27 Citera Svara bump largest (and quite possibly the oldest) thread in C24 almost got deleted! Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Mistra Skrivet: 2010-09-30 14:47:59 Uppdaterat: 2010-09-30 14:55:53 Citera Svara I've just had a match with Huge Pythons where, despite having a stronger team, my defence got absolutely walked all over. Does anybody have any thoughts about this? I presumed my midfield would have romped it, or is 4-5-1 majorly rubbish vs. 3-5-2? Duxbury as my PM was 14 skill, but form was barely above 10 - is this going to be a major factor? http://www.xperteleven.com/cupGameDetails.aspx?GameID=1421657&dh=1 Ref: Seymour Red (S3, H8) 4-5-1 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Offensive Wing plays << Offence >> Varied

Tighten the wings << Defence >> Tighten the wings No (1/3) << Prepared >> No (1/3) Careful << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No Yes << Pressure >> No No << Offside traps >> No Yes << Cheating >> Yes Yes (200k) << Win bonus >> Yes Cody Duxbury << Playmaker >> Karlheinz Bchel Karlheinz Bchel << Tightly marked >> None Cletus Ormerod << Captain >> Hui Lian http://www.xperteleven.com/lastLineUp.aspx?TeamID=210425&dh=1 http://www.xperteleven.com/lastLineUp.aspx?TeamID=133901&dh=1

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Marcone [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-09-05 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2010-09-30 15:13:34 Uppdaterat: 2010-09-30 15:20:39 Citera Svara that's a really, really weird one. i'm not quite sure how they managed to create 9 chances with 352 offensive away being by far the weaker team... at first glance would have thought this was a recipe for a 3-0, 4-0 dominant home win. also weird he scored both goals via headers despite varied offense vs your TTW edited to say: i just realized this was a cup match so no home vs away, but still... the only thing i can think of is that your pressure paid off in terms of better possession but it was overkill in the sense that the MF battle was already well and truly won. when your attacks break down, he's got 5 offensively-placed MFs well placed to create chances and you have 5 tiring MFs chasing back. i also think for him to create 9 chances against your stronger 4 defenders, you must have really ended up overcommitted to going forward... do you have a breakdown of when his chances were created? Flytta till verst p sidan ... 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37

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... 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Frfattare Meddelande Colinzink [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Colinzink] Blev medlem: 2008-01-18 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2010-09-30 15:21:58 Citera Svara Well, you both went offensive and you lost the strat battle so I guess it isn't all that shocking to see the chances pile up. Plus your 4th defender was a youth. I wish there wasn't a sending off because it fucks up everything in regards to the analysis...

They took you nightman and you don't belong to them. They locked me in a world of darkness without your sexy hands, and I miss you nightman...sooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Colinzink

Skrivet: 2010-09-30 16:13:45 Citera Svara But Col, does a 19/6 in a four man def with a 14, 13 and 12 make more difference than a 20/7 in with a 12 and an 11, where avg. age is 25? That defence becomes a 7 and 12 too, where avg. age drops to 23.67 as well. Anyway, game shiz: Goal: Pythons, header from a cross (3 min) Chance: Stoapfalz, FK on goal (6 min) Chance: Stoapfalz, header (9 min) Chance: Stoapfalz, volley (20 min) Chance: Pythons, header (30 min) Chance: Pythons, toe-kick (34 min) Chance: Stoapfalz, LRS (42 min) Chance: Stoapfalz, header (43 min) Chance: Pythons, LRS (46 min) Goal: Stoapfalz, header from a corner (48 min) Chance: Stoapfalz, FK on goal (57 min) Goal: Stoapfalz, header from a cross (62 min) Red card: Stoapfalz (75 min) Chance: Pythons, shot in area (78 min) Chance: Stoapfalz, breakaway (87 min) Goal: Pythons, header from a cross (89 min) Goal: Pythons, shot in area (110 min) Chance: Pythons, header (118 min)

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Richardfenn Skrivet: 2010-09-30 19:07:25 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn!!!!! Ref: Seymour Red (S3, H8) Offensive << Playing style Careful << Aggression It's not a wise move, I've said for long enough that when using Careful simply drop the playing style by a notch to make it's use more effective, Esp.. on Neutral were I would tend to drop it by 2 dependant on formation/opponent. Ursprungligen postat av: Richardfenn Wing plays << Offence >> Varied Tighten the wings << Defence >> Tighten the wings

This match-up Varied v TTW is usually a great tactic on chances, I love this offence tactic. The above quotes is why your defence struggled imo, perhaps a shade lucky he was weaker/under avg & went offensive too, otherwise it could've been a sharp exit Rich.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Marcone [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-09-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-09-30 19:24:34 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster It's not a wise move, I've said for long enough that when using Careful simply drop the playing style by a notch to make it's use more effective, Esp.. on Neutral were I would tend to drop it by 2 dependant on formation/opponent.

3 skill bars difference, 16 form vs 15 form and the opponent playing 352 offensive. Thats a recipe for an offensive setup & steamroller; maybe not VO but is 451 offensive/careful really that unjustified? (rhetorical question I guess since Richs game already gives the answer). Not to mention Rich got the PM in a 5-MF setup. Agree on TTW, I rarely use it since it leaves you wide open through the middle, but Im still very surprised to see 9 chances conceded by that 4-man defense, especially with opponent having little possession & no LB. Very instructive game from the tactics standpoint - for me at least. Flytta till verst p sidan Richardfenn [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Richardfenn] Blev medlem: 2006-03-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-10-01 02:04:39 Uppdaterat: 2010-10-01 02:12:04 Citera Svara Oddly enough, I'm gonna pull up a game I stumbled on this afty, where 4-5-1 dicked on a more defensive 3-5-2, against the guy who was MotR for this round, no less. Mainly 'cos I think it sullies the waters. http://www.xperteleven.com/cupGameDetails.aspx?GameID=1406987&dh=1 4-5-1 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Offensive << Playing style >> Normal Varied << Offence >> Wing plays Normal << Defence >> Tighten the wings No << Prepared >> Yes Normal << Aggression >> Normal No << Long balls >> No

Yes << Pressure >> Yes Yes << Offside traps >> No No << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes Mark Noble << Playmaker >> None Valter Herz << Tightly marked >> Mark Noble Jim Boyd << Captain >> Maximilian Lenz Back to my match, interesting point with varied v TTW, but they got both from headers (although only one was a cross). I figured 4-5-1 was defensive enough and my defenders were up to the challenge, and I'm intrigued how a 2-man defence aged under 24 held me off so well for so long when my midfield should have been absolutely running proceedings. It's the centre of the park I don't get. 15, 14, 14, 13, 12 v. 12, 11, 10, 6, 6 should = game over, surely?

If all else fails, just sod it and go to the pub. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Marcone Skrivet: 2010-10-02 01:56:30 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Marcone 3 skill bars difference, 16 form vs 15 form and the opponent playing 352 offensive. Thats a recipe for an offensive setup & steamroller; maybe not VO but is 451 offensive/careful really that unjustified? (rhetorical question I guess since Richs game already gives the answer). Not to mention Rich got the PM in a 5-MF setup. Agree on TTW, I rarely use it since it leaves you wide open through the middle, but Im still very surprised to see 9 chances conceded by that 4-man defense, especially with opponent having little possession & no LB. Very instructive game from the tactics standpoint - for me at least.

Horses for courses and all... What I mentioned above about Careful is a tactic I've spent an age on "getting right" I am totally by the "book" regardless of how "big" a game it is & through this way of playing the game I've found consistency & effectiveness in finding a nice balance in the use of Careful, I will frown at Offensive with Careful and with reason. I don't really care for possession, it's not all that imho, Nando mentioned in the other thread about it being around 1mp for winning this area - I don't agree, it is likely worth something which will be a simple 0.5 of which the same as most areas in the visible tactics I believe to be worth, When a team is stronger then they usually always WIN possession, if it's above 2 bars then even a 433 etc.. will win it with LB. Not exactly compos mentis atm.. and what I say is my way of playing a situation above, however I'am naturally a more defensive minded player. Not surprised by the chance count given the tactics I already quoted, If you lose the Offence/Defence battle against a weaker team & throw in Careful via an offensive style and thus provoke a more dangerous chance against, then it isn't to me - a surprise, The strength will count if winning the tactical areas, when you lose thses areas then the weaker opponent becomes far more dangerous on chance.

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Flytta till verst p sidan Nando19 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Nando19] Blev medlem: 2007-08-13 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-10-04 21:28:37 Citera Svara Ye, 1 manager point for ball possession might be way off from the true value. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Nando19 Skrivet: 2010-10-16 01:11:40 Citera Svara BASE VALUE What would you "guess" base value is hmm?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-10-16 12:10:14 Citera Svara Do you mean the innate amount of skill bars a player has so that the difference between players (and ultimately) teams is not as large as things look?

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster]

Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2010-10-16 12:28:55 Citera Svara Aye Bejj the base skill. If I wasn't so drunk last night I might have worded that correct.

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Bejjita [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Bejjita] Blev medlem: 2008-06-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2010-10-16 12:38:02 Citera Svara I've never really thought about it seriously, but I remember in Leftblanks guide it was hypothetically explained to be +4 bars.. so that's always the image I've had in my head..

Deus Ex Machina.. future XCL winners. Flytta till verst p sidan Kknox86 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Kknox86] Blev medlem: 2007-08-08 Svar till: Bejjita Skrivet: 2010-10-16 14:14:24 Citera Svara Duff, I've never thought to go less offensive when I use careful + cheat. The thought process was I want the ball on their side of the field so when fouls are called, they are closer to their end of the field. Don't know if it works out that way, but a bunch of fouls at midfield while holding possession don't seem to help. You thoughts? Flytta till verst p sidan Villabolger [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2006-01-15

Svar till: Kknox86 Skrivet: 2010-10-20 10:26:31 Citera Svara If that was the case Knox, then realistically playing say a 4-2-4 would mean we should play very offensively as we would want the ball on their side of the field as that is where we have our numbers. Now we all know thats not a good idea and when you play more offensive formations you should play a more defensive playing style. So i agree with Duffster on this one, if you're weakening your team (by playing careful) you should compensate by playing more defensively (i've never included the use of cheat in my thinking for this decision though, it has no impact on the decision for me). Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Kknox86 Skrivet: 2010-10-21 01:18:03 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Kknox86 Duff, I've never thought to go less offensive when I use careful + cheat. Missed this KK, Each to their own when it comes to these situations, I never change my style with Refs, as in I won't play Careful x times then switch because I think the game is too "important" for letting the peformance drop, so it was imperative I found a balance inbetween the peformance drop and being competitive enough to justify it's use in matches you just can't lose, I prefer consistency. As for cheating, it's easy to view it as the offensive chance, you know? looking at it in a winning scenario, but if you take a step back and evaluate the game in-hand - Cheat then becomes your first thought to strengthen defence (of course dependant on if home/away/neutral and what they will use in aggression)... esp when using Careful, If you use Careful & opponent normal then more often than not you won't get that ball to keep on that side of the virtual field so to speak, and if they're using normal under a cheating/careful value you'll benifit more from use of cheating, but it nedds balance through your style of play as a rule of thumb. There is number of reasons and different combinations I use and can back-up, but then you'll counter me quite easy whenever we meet LOL! srsly though.. playing style the most important compliment, Cheating should be thought about on it's own and what's in front of you, which prob doesn't help.

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Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2011-01-01 23:22:31 Citera Svara bump

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Basilbrush303 [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Basilbrush303] Blev medlem: 2006-02-17 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2011-04-18 00:45:38 Citera Svara and again...

We are all Champions. We are all Walter Smith. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Basilbrush303 Skrivet: 2011-07-15 08:31:30 Citera Svara I wondered if any of you's have changed your game on how/when you use pressure since the change to indivdual player peformance?

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2008-09-14 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2011-07-15 14:10:43 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster I wondered if any of you's have changed your game on how/when you use pressure since the change to indivdual player peformance? I have never been a big fan of pressure (usually only out of the 451 and in rare instances the 442). So with greater fatigue involved my likelihood of playing it is still very low. From the other side, fatigue has given me greater confidence in playing LRS, since I think that half of the counter is now less likely.

Have a nice day. Flytta till verst p sidan Robbo_the_Red [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Robbo_the_Red] Blev medlem: 2006-06-29 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2011-07-15 20:30:38 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Duffster I wondered if any of you's have changed your game on how/when you use pressure since the change to indivdual player peformance? In my observations the use of pressure is still one of the most unpredictable elements of the game, and remains so

http://www.curiousplants.co.uk/ Flytta till verst p sidan Snirp [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] Blev medlem: 2009-05-21 Svar till: Quercus Skrivet: 2011-07-16 00:20:40 Citera Svara Ursprungligen postat av: Quercus I have never been a big fan of pressure (usually only out of the 451 and in rare instances the 442). So with greater fatigue involved my likelihood of playing it is still very low. From the other side, fatigue has given me greater confidence in playing LRS, since I think that half of the counter is now less likely.

Mmmmhhhh..... I feel there was a slight change in possession and its correlation to the creation of chances. Read: it became a bit more important. And as pressure increases possession I tend to use it more often recently actually Flytta till verst p sidan ... 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37

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Svar till: Snirp Skrivet: 2011-07-20 09:02:35 Citera Svara I used to use it all the time, but I am very wary of when to use it. It may be because my xpert team sucks compared to the others now

Maktub Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11 Svar till: Chuchutran Skrivet: 2011-09-17 23:02:20 Citera Svara What is the toughest Official top tier division on X11 atm..?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Roberto11x [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Roberto11x] Blev medlem: 2007-04-28 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2011-09-18 00:18:09 Citera Svara Euro League, although clearly I'm biased If it isn't already, then it will be next season if GB and myself promote from 1b. Flytta till verst p sidan Duffster [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Anvndaren r ligaboss fr ligan] [r med i Hall Of Fame!] [Duffster] Blev medlem: 2006-09-11

Svar till: Roberto11x Skrivet: 2011-09-25 11:41:50 Citera Svara http://www.xperteleven.com/gameDetails.aspx?GameID=9128578&dh=3 4-4-2 << Formation >> 3-5-2 Cautious << Playing style >> Cautious Wing plays << Offence >> Long range shots Tighten the centre << Defence >> Normal Yes << Prepared >> No Normal << Aggression >> Normal Yes << Long balls >> No No << Pressure >> Yes No << Offside traps >> Yes Yes << Cheating >> No Yes << Win bonus >> Yes David Beckham << Playmaker >> Bobby Long Mad Vlad Inatutu << Tightly marked >> Henry Bleazard Diego Lugano << Captain >> Offside My Arse Ref ---What do y'all reckon gained the home manager 5 stars?

The usefulness of a cup is its emptiness. http://www.xperteleven.com/viewGlobalMessageN.aspx?threadID=3841256&forumid=26&read=1 Flytta till verst p sidan Sevenman [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Ligaassistent] [Sevenman] Blev medlem: 2008-04-27 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2011-09-25 20:42:57 Citera Svara That's my old team, jesus he's hardly added any skill brs to that team since I left

7 (seven) is the natural number following 6 and preceding 8 Flytta till verst p sidan Patongniakos [Kontakta frfattare inom ligan] [Anvndaren r VIP-medlem] [Patongniakos] Blev medlem: 2006-08-05 Svar till: Duffster Skrivet: 2011-09-29 09:25:24 Uppdaterat: 2011-09-29 09:26:04 Citera

Svara So five stars means inch perfect tactics? 3 substitutes on the bench. All defenders including 1 lightly injured. This one is interesting ... played cheat and no offsides with a S6 H3 referee. Personally I wouldn't of played played 4-4-2 if I knew you would go for 3-5-2. 5-3-2 or 4-3-3 are better options in my opinion. Flytta till verst p sidan ... 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37

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