Ukedchat Archive 01 December 2011

Hosted by @Dailydenoument Thursday 1st December 2011
What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? status We should prepare the pupils to use tech of the future!The start of the future? Using iPads in the classroom http://t.co/WPJF7XQo #ukedchat @Primary_Ed Good post! I left you a comment. #ukedchat #edchat JJW @jackieschneider is that all? #ukedchat But effectively enough? RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - my contribution to tonight's discussion : life! @dailydenouement #ukedchat To think for themselves #ukedchat Does our present curriculum model have relevance for 21st century learners? #ukedchat - my contribution to tonight's discussion : life! #ukedchat to think for themselves and to be able to function outside the cotton wool of school @mrpeel - what else is there? #ukedchat RT @ufasarah: we dont really know...to paraphrase @karlfisch we're preparing yp for jobs that dont exist yet to solve problems we dont know yet #ukedchat http://t.co/dkMchnJR great to read about this happening in classrooms #ukedchat #edchat #ukedchat my vision is for preparation for life beyond school walls which means looking, in school, more at the real world for inspiration we dont really know...to paraphrase @karlfisch we're preparing yp for jobs that dont exist yet to solve problems we dont know yet #ukedchat Do we do that though? Culture of spoon feeding for tests? RT @passionateaboot: @dailydenouement #ukedchat To think for themselves RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat Kicking off tonight's discussion then: what are we preparing our students for? All thoughts welcome. Please use the hashtag. #ukedchat - I'm sure as hell NOT preparing them to be wage slaves to suit this bloody awful gov
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with the lack of 21st century skills on offer it feels like we're 20:02 preparing them for the 1890s! time travel maybe? #ukedchat #ukedchat Also, the greatest challenge out there is "how to live in a 20:02 sustainable manner" We should prepare for that! Preparing students for the challenges of modern life, being 20:02 independent thinkers and giving them essential life skills #ukedchat But does our curric allow that? RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat to think for themselves and to be able to function outside the cotton wool of 20:02 school #ukedchat to be independent thinkers and considerate citizens in 20:02 their adult life
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? I worry that we are not preparing them well enough for their digital 20:02 futures #ukedchat Or will pupils work it out for themselves? Feeling cynical... Droughts, working till 87, famine. Sorry just 20:02 watched the news! #ukedchat RT @nightzookeeper: http://t.co/dkMchnJR great to read about 20:02 this happening in classrooms #ukedchat #edchat #ukedchat I am trying to teach them to be people who know that a) 20:03 there are a wealth of choices available to them and... My partner is a lecturer & is seeing students coming through who 20:03 cant think for themselves #ukedchat #ukedchat Living in a sustainable manner requires all kinds of skills 20:03 tech, science, communication...reordering values RT @aangeli: with the lack of 21st century skills on offer it feels like 20:03 we're preparing them for the 1890s! time travel maybe? #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I'm sure as hell NOT preparing 20:03 them to be wage slaves to suit this bloody awful gov 20:03 @mikeatedji If it's your vision, what's in it for the kids? #ukedchat #ukedchat Have you ever asked your pupils what they want to be 20:03 prepared for? @ICTwitz digital futures? many can't write a formal letter of 20:03 application #ukedchat #ukedchat hmm want to join in but page not loading. Education is 20:04 for life skills (quals are part of this) but the "real world" bit is vital. @passionateaboot #ukedchat It doesn't become less relevant because I have a vision...it can be discussed and mutated and 20:04 argued with I'm missing #ukedchat tonight but I hope my fellow B.Eds will catch 20:04 me up on what went on :) RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat Also, the greatest challenge out there is 20:04 "how to live in a sustainable manner" We should prepare for that! @dailydenouement I think its got 2b about transferable skills. 20:04 Doing jobs that aren't even invented yet!Shift Happens! #ukedchat #ukedchat b) some of those choices involve much more and much harder work...but are generally the most rewarding financially & 20:04 emotionally! 20:04 @jackieschneider #ukedchat What is it then? #ukedchat mines, mills and sweatshops judging by the latest govt 20:04 policy... #ukedchat we're always three steps behind. future should be coding and web design, teachers should be learning along-side. 20:04 constant cycle.
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? Is it all about digital futures though? What about sustainability, 20:04 health etc? #ukedchat 20:04 @aangeli The curriculum needs a complete overhaul? #ukedchat #ukedchat Preparing people 4 jobs which don't exist yet, so need to be flexible but Gove wants to narrow the selection with the #EBacc 20:04 #fail Teaching for the World of yesteryear and occasionally today. NOT 20:05 for the World of tomorrow! #ukedchat critical thinking skills, IT, collaboration and team work all should be 20:05 skills that are used daily #ukedchat If you're new to #ukedchat and having trouble keeping up, try http://t.co/bajl8hOD and add #ukedchat in the Searches. #ukedchat time to work hand in hand with industry, need businesses to support modelling the curriculum. #ukedchat founder of our school said 'in the schools teach them what is necessary for life' when did she say it? about 1840 still drives us @HMIeducation If we enable them to think and learn for themselves is all this possible? #ukedchat Preparing people to get medical jobs to assist me when I'm still teaching in the classroom at 68! #ukedchat be a little wary of the 'jobs' that don't exist meme. Doctors, teachers, architects, web designers, Any of these disappeared yet? #ukedchat
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PhilWheeler1 JOHNSAYERS aangeli
ukedchat smile2learn
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mrpeel dailydenouement
#ukedchat current anger at govt will not solve this question -all 20:05 govts will be the same in this area over the coming years #ukedchat What would you add or take away from our current 20:05 curriculum to better prepare pupils? Using tools of now instead of yesteryear to teach/learn will help 20:05 build relevant skills for the students future careers #ukedchat #ukedchat We need to prepare chn/students to be independent 20:05 and assertive What we don't want is kids like hose on Apprentice. Money orientated, egotistical, non-collaborators. Not good role models. 20:05 #ukedchat #ukedchat at the moment we are not really equipping them for 20:05 anything other than jumping over the next "test" hurdle for me its more about learning dispositions than skills that yp need 20:06 to develop as learners. Things like curiosity & flexibility #ukedchat #ukedchat What, if anything, did you find useful preparation from 20:06 your own education? And what can we learn from this?
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @aangeli: critical thinking skills, IT, collaboration and team work 20:06 all should be skills that are used daily #ukedchat RT @PhilWheeler1: Preparing people to get medical jobs to assist 20:06 me when Im still teaching in the classroom at 68! #ukedchat RT @aangeli: critical thinking skills, IT, collaboration and team work 20:06 all should be skills that are used daily #ukedchat RT @HMIeducation: #ukedchat we're always three steps behind. future should be coding and web design, teachers should be 20:06 learning along-side. constant cycle. RT @learnbuzz: RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat Also, the greatest challenge out there is "how to live in a sustainable manner" We 20:06 should prepare for that! RT @nightzookeeper: pupils will, but it would be a great deal better 20:07 for future if they had more digital time built into curr #ukedchat Self-aware, empathetic and able to develop positive relationships 20:07 #ukedchat one thing seems rather clear, teaching children 'facts' in the age of 20:07 the internet, is not the best use of anyone's time #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat I'd remove some of the over load on PHSE. It tells them what to do/think and prevents independent 20:07 thought often #ukedchat primary really build in express and experiment with new 20:07 cutting edge tech. Secondary too content driven RT @aangeli: critical thinking skills, IT, collaboration and team work all should be skills that are used daily #ukedchat RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat would love see more links with industry at all levels - why go yo uni for maths if cant write well enough to deal with public? RT @ICTwitz: Did I see somewhere that coding should be treated as the new Latin? #ukedchat Should there be an emphasis on this creative aspect of tech? RT @mattpearson: RT @PhilWheeler1: Preparing people to get medical jobs to assist me when Im still teaching in the classroom at 68! #ukedchat Did I see somewhere that coding should be treated as the new Latin? #ukedchat Should there be an emphasis on this creative aspect of tech?
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cherrylkd JOHNSAYERS
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RT @smile2learn: #ukedchat time to work hand in hand with 20:07 industry, need businesses to support modelling the curriculum. #ukedchat would love see more links with industry at all levels why go yo uni for maths if cant write well enough to deal with 20:07 public?
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @teacherofy5 #ukedchat this is imperative.We teach students to be self aware and confident in their choices & to be aware of their choices) @ufasarah good point-extra curicular activites so important and being eroded in UK #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: @dailydenouement - abolish league tables, mix up the curriculum, give kids access to arts, sports, design, scientists, writers,#ukedchat Surely we should be educating our children to pass tests. As that's what makes a school good. Sure I heard Gove say that recently #ukedchat #ukedchat coding argument interesting, why teach coding when they get to work they'll use codes that don't yet exist- teach them maths yet it is exactly a return to teaching facts which has characterised Gove and Gibbs reign.... #ukedchat #ukedchat I found being involved in my education helped esp in the sixth form @dailydenouement I would say it was only by stepping outside of my comfort zone that I really developed as a learner #ukedchat #edchat Preparing them for the unknown... providing them with constant opportunities to be adaptable, flexible, and to try out new things #ukedchat RT @passionateaboot: #ukedchat Just finished a 4 day course with teachers who now describe themselves as facilitators of learning - is that what it's all about?
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RT @PhilWheeler1: Preparing people to get medical jobs to assist 20:08 me when I'm still teaching in the classroom at 68! #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: @dailydenouement - abolish league tables, mix up the curriculum, give kids access to arts, sports, design, 20:08 scientists, writers,#ukedchat #ukedchat Just finished a 4 day course with teachers who now describe themselves as facilitators of learning - is that what it's all 20:08 about? @dailydenouement thinking back on my education it was playing in 20:08 a sports team and the school band that taught me most #ukedchat @passionateaboot #ukedchat Less relevant to the pupils... in countless research pupils put sustainblty issues high up on list of 20:08 concerns #ukedchat so important to keep the development of the whole 20:08 child at the centre of all we do. Only happy children learn. @dailydenouement - abolish league tables, mix up the curriculum, 20:08 give kids access to arts, sports, design, scientists, writers,#ukedchat #ukedchat that academic grades are not nec indicative of success in 20:08 life? Page 5 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat Participation in the 21st century - and that means? Learners being empowered which means teachers changing their mindset. @mattpearson #ukedchat I looked into it here: http://t.co/LSV7S0DN See myth 1. To take responsibility and ownership of their own learning. #ukedchat @passionateaboot it can be seen as a new way of expressing older lessons. english and maths are best applicable online nowadays. #ukedchat #ukedchat children should be taught skills to become life-long learners, they shouldnt simply be spoon fed facts! #ukedchat resilliance at KS3 @dailydenouement on trips away - living with host families in France & Germany. I learnt resilience and confidence. In scl?? #ukedchat @mrpeel That's the worry!!! #ukedchat #ukedchat What part can or should enterprise education play in preparing pupils for their futures?
JanieT56 oldandrewuk CassieFielding
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a_p_martin ICTwitz dailydenouement
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mikeatedji jackieschneider
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#ukedchat Children are central but there are of course issues which 20:09 will affect them that need addressing - we can raise those #ukedchat - I worry our divided school system simply reinforces 20:09 class divisions RT @smile2learn: #ukedchat so important to keep the development of the whole child at the centre of all we do. Only 20:09 happy children learn. Sounds like education needs to take more of the role of the parent to show pupils how to behave and respect people? #ukedchat Using independent learning will help students become independent workers - More people will be self employers in the near future #ukedchat #ukedchat I believe the ed system is to make the nation internationally competitive.that's not what I believe I should be for though RT @Educationchat: Surely we should be educating our children to pass tests. As that's what makes a school good. Sure I heard Gove say that recently #ukedchat RT @imrandjk: #ukedchat we need to be preparing them for life in the 21st Century - to do this we need to be thinking about a curriculum overhaul
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RT @TeachToAll: #ukedchat children should be taught skills to 20:10 become life-long learners, they shouldnt simply be spoon fed facts! 20:10 @CassieFielding any strategies to help with this #ukedchat #ukedchat I agree with those who say trips, visits, extra-curricular 20:10 activities taught/prepared me much better than some lessons!
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @TestSoup i get involved in the #ukedchat a lot, when is the 20:10 #edchat? #ukedchat we need to be preparing them for life in the 21st Century - to do this we need to be thinking about a curriculum 20:10 overhaul @ICTwitz I think we have definitely moved more to teaching general manners & etiquette in a way schools prob didn't have to 20:10 before #ukedchat 20:10 #ukedchat Ok. Here's what I think: http://t.co/p9NYlnbJ @ICTwitz We also need to educate yp to be good enough parents 20:10 too #ukedchat @ufasarah @dailydenouement #ukedchat So what exactly did it 20:10 teach you? @smile2learn I would add confident and secure in their 20:10 environment to that as well #ukedchat Global Awareness, Financial, Economic,Business & Entrepreneurial literacy, Civic Literacy, Health Liteacy, Enviromental Literacy 20:10 #ukedchat @jackieschneider yes but does one size really fit all in the real 20:10 world? #ukedchat 20:11 @jodieworld It's a worry! #ukedchat Teachers as parents! #ukedchat In the current climate I think we need to teach children 20:11 to be flexible and adaptable as much as possible too! #ukedchat sustainability is going to be huge! Kids can't play 20:11 computer games and drink energy drinks forever! #ukedchat what's the question for tonight? I've just joined in and 20:11 can't find it... 20:11 @oldandrewuk Students do #ukedchat #ukedchat if we need IT graduates they need Maths and physics as 20:11 well as the basic in computing. then equipt to advance things. 20:11 @HMIeducation #ukedchat Have you seen the flipped classroom? #ukedchat What about citizenship? Are we teaching our pupils to 20:11 *really* be global citizens? Stds said today that they want to learn the facts they need to pass 20:11 their exam. Give us 50 answers and we will learn them. #ukedchat #ukedchat and on etiquette we need to teach e-etiquette and 20:11 managing and online identity @ConsultantHead It does sound as though schools are having to 20:11 play the role parents should be providing! #ukedchat @imrandjk New curriculum model: 1) solving interesting problems 20:11 2) leadership. That's all #ukedchat RT @TeachToAll: #ukedchat children should be taught skills to 20:11 become life-long learners, they shouldnt simply be spoon fed facts!
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? Education is only a ladder to gather fruit from the tree of 20:11 knowledge, not the fruit itself." #ukedchat RT @Joe_Mazza: Principals need to be the bridge for parentsteachers http://t.co/eEHX58Ht #cpchat #edchat #ptchat #parents 20:11 #eductaion #finnedchat #ukedchat @Educationchat #ukedchat You know you didn't. This is an obvious 20:11 straw man. Nobody thinks tests are the purpose of education. @paulhaigh re coding, I agree. I have computer studies O level, 20:11 included coding re 1979, no use today! #ukedchat #ukedchat working with community is something we need to build 20:12 into schools. Let's build a community spirit into our lives! #ukedchat students need to be the 'entrepreneur' in their own 20:12 learning RT @oldandrewuk: @Educationchat #ukedchat Nobody thinks tests 20:12 are the purpose of education. > students do! @nightzookeeper I think ur right. This gen of chldn will need to 20:12 harness the skills of preparing for a world in crisis #ukedchat we should of course teach all children to believe fervently that 20:12 Jeremy Clarkson is an idiot...That above all else :-) #ukedchat #ukedchat Asked my Y13s what they wanted to know/learn this 20:12 year. Most popular answer? How to cook & live on a budget. @passionateaboot no but I would love you to explain it as i look it 20:12 up! ^^. #ukedchat #ukedchat coming : climate change; diminshing resources; digitally connected; mass migration; multi-employed; local production... Despite government policy it's down to leaders to make sure the kids in our schools get the curriculum they deserve #ukedchat #bebrave #ukedchat YP need to be taught how to present themselves and how to speak well to groups. Interview process competitive and complex @GillDeCosemo #ukedchat yep don't think my BBC BASIC will get me a job at Google! #ukedchat i worry too many parents are obsessed with grades and do not look at wider issues... @CassieFielding #ukedchat So what can teachers do to facilitate that?
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dailydenouement HMIeducation
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#ukedchat unfortunately one of the things that we are having to do 20:12 is spoon feed students which is not really equipping them for life @nightzookeeper: @CassieFielding Another twitter chat tool is http://t.co/51wo4klt. You can adjust refresh speed as well. 20:12 #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat Here @TheBullAcademy we use our massive subsidy 20:12 from the DFE to teach students to stand on their own feet! RT @nightzookeeper: By using investigative learning in the classroom you will begin to see more independance in students 20:13 #ukedchat @dailydenouement how about global digital citizenship? 20:13 #ukedchat RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I think we need to teach our pupils to 20:13 'know what to do when they don't know what to do'. RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I think we need to teach our pupils to 20:13 'know what to do when they don't know what to do'. Yes - agreed! RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I think we need to teach 20:13 our pupils to 'know what to do when they don't know what to do'. @ICTwitz but we often don't develop the yp's skills in that area, yet most of the students will be parents for a long time #ukedchat @trisha_telfer #ukedchat topic is: What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? We should be teaching kids to locate info, sort & process it, form opinions & then put them forward in compelling, structured ways #ukedchat #ukedchat So we need to teach children to value things that won't be at peak: friendship; creativity; pleasure in doing things beautifully @ICTwitz I am happy to teach it - I think I do naturally as I was brought up with good manners. It's just hard to fit into a day! #ukedchat RT @ben_solly: #ukedchat this really made me think seriously about how schools are preparing young people http://t.co/fMqPxwN4 @SirKenRobinson #ukedchat I think we need to teach our pupils to 'know what to do when they don't know what to do'. RT @JOHNSAYERS: #ukedchat working with community is something we need to build into schools. Let's build a community spirit into our lives! #ukedchat this really made me think seriously about how schools are preparing young people http://t.co/fMqPxwN4 @SirKenRobinson What prepared me better was good organisational skills, guest speakers and practical skill days #ukedchat @LearningSpy parents do at my school #ukedchat By using investigative learning in the classroom you will begin to see more independance in students #ukedchat @mattpearson #ukedchat All thinking is underpinned by knowledge held in our heads, not on the internet.
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @aangeli #ukedchat Is it about a list of discrete subjects or 20:13 something that transcends rigid boundaries? #ukedchat I agree with all these teaching em HOW to learn and not 20:14 just facts but when they do GCSEs&SATs its the facts that matter. RT @JOHNSAYERS #ukedchat wrkng with com is something we need to build into schls. Let's build a community spirit into our 20:14 lives! >hear hear! RT @passionateaboot: So how can teachers hold that ladder to 20:14 support the learning? #ukedchat RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat point 1 should be to teach that facebook posts are not private and that their occasional lapses of judgement 20:14 will follow them RT @LearningSpy: RT @oldandrewuk: @Educationchat #ukedchat 20:14 Nobody thinks tests are the purpose of education. > students do! @dorristheloris yes interesting, essential code is algorithm and 20:14 lateral thinking, skills gained elsewhere in the curric? #ukedchat @jodieworld @ictwitz #ukedchat but shouldn't etiquette & manners be parents job? Too much time spent on this in schools @imrandjk completely agree teachers are not given the sufficient time to teach skills children need to become lifelong learners #ukedchat @oldandrewuk but I can get knowledge from the internet into my head very quickly with the right skills unlike 20 years ago... #ukedchat @JOHNSAYERS and make schools more real places and learning more real. Real reasons to learn, real challenges, real audiences #ukedchat RT @JenniH68: #ukedchat critical and creative thinking, more problem solving... totally agree. Focus on child-driven education. You may have seen this Sugata Mitra speech, if not, defs worth a watch: http://t.co/Ivh5M2VR #ukedchat @elanazak #ukedchat So how can teachers hold that ladder to support the learning?
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ufasarah PhilipEdmundson
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KiDu89 passionateaboot
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RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I think we need to teach our pupils to 20:14 'know what to do when they don't know what to do'. #ukedchat it would be good to think UK is pioneering industries 20:14 grassroots in schools like south Korea and technology/robotics #ukedchat point 1 should be to teach that facebook posts are not private and that their occasional lapses of judgement will follow 20:14 them 20:14 #ukedchat critical and creative thinking, more problem solving...
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @mattpearson @oldandrewuk agreed, knowledge is all stored in a search engine. You must be taught the desire to go and look for it 20:15 #ukedchat Great session with our #reading buddies today. Younger students had to 'interview' their older buddies :) #shoutabout #ukedchat 20:15 #tlchat @ufasarah @johnsayers #ukedchat is this like real learning as 20:15 prescribed by Guy Claxton? RT @LearningSpy: RT @oldandrewuk: @Educationchat #ukedchat 20:15 Nobody thinks tests are the purpose of education. > students do! RT @PhilWheeler1: Preparing people to get medical jobs to assist 20:15 me when I'm still teaching in the classroom at 68! #ukedchat Tonight's #ukedchat blog post: What is it exactly that we are 20:15 supposed to be preparing pupils for? http://t.co/q4veDwB5 @passionateaboot I'm not sure yet. There's a lot of frustration in this chat with the curriculum. But being supportive can't hurt. 20:15 #ukedchat @TeachToAll there isnt the time or the room in the curriculum to be able to deliver all that they need #ukedchat @imrandjk #ukedchat Do you have to spoon feed them? #ukedchat So how would/could we get all this into a 'timetable'? Or should we ignore this sort of structure? RT @JenniH68: #ukedchat critical and creative thinking, more problem solving...
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20:15 @innerquest Interesting - what does that consist of? #ukedchat In EYFS, I would say PSED is most important, followed by Lit and 20:15 Num? Same in following years? #ukedchat If #ukedchat is to be sponsored by Pearson in future, then maybe future of edu is preparing for exams using commercial SOL & 20:16 textbooks... Prepare them to be confident but not arrogant when delivering an 20:16 argument or involved discussion. To listen and appraise #ukedchat Well put MT @nightzookeeper: knowledge is all stored in a search engine. You must be taught the desire to go and look for it. 20:16 #ukedchat RT @smile2learn: #ukedchat so important to keep the development of the whole child at the centre of all we do. Only 20:16 happy children learn. RT @mattpearson: one thing seems rather clear, teaching children 'facts' in the age of the internet, is not the best use of anyone's 20:16 time #ukedchat @mrpeel as real as it can be - writing real stories to read to real 20:16 people e.g. younger classes - you know the kind of thing #ukedchat Page 11 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat losing timetable not a bad idea. The real world doesn't 20:16 fit into lit, then num then geog on a wed pm. 20:16 @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat Don't they need to *know* anything? 20:16 #ukedchat self-motivated and resourceful RT @LearningSpy: RT @oldandrewuk: @Educationchat #ukedchat 20:16 Nobody thinks tests are the purpose of education. > students do! @elanazak curriculum can be tweaked_ the obsession with grades, data and league tables defines what management will let us teach 20:16 #ukedchat #ukedchat We need to equip pupils with the skills to search for the 20:16 answers they require. #ukedchat Yes we should be teaching progressive skills; analysis; 20:16 sifting; synthesising...but what values to underpin these? #ukedchat @trisha_telfer - The ability to become the future custodians of our world and lives and the skills to live through 20:16 uncertainty. RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat i worry many parents are obsessed with grades and do not look at wider issues. Not just parents - many 20:16 teachers too @HMIeducation #ukedchat Look up the video on You Tube after 20:16 this tonight. I won't spoil the surprise. #ukedchat agree Dave need to stay at the forefront of growth areas, they change so quickly though so we need businesss to he 20:16 intergrated. @imrandjk #ukedchat if you are a school who is free to ditch 20:16 national curriculum you can make time @JOHNSAYERS #ukedchat Can also mean that we look to comm ed 20:16 workers and their informal learning approach. @cherrylkd @ictwitz #ukedchat Would be nicer if parents teach it but a lot of the parents were not taught it either so need to break 20:16 cycle @passionateaboot ok ^^. does it bring up any lessons that we 20:17 should bring into wider practice or try to embrace? #ukedchat #ukedchat What about 'stuff' like sexual health? Parenting skills? 20:17 How far do we go in preparing pupils for the variety of life? @ukedchat #ukedchat Should we be teaching kids at all or 20:17 facilitating learning? 20:17 @teachitso you had to mention Pearson!! #ukedchat @Mad_teach true but do u not think they are more likely to retain facts if u have given them skills to seek them out themselves? 20:17 #ukedchat We need to teach children to think, listen, question, be curious, investigate, care, be independent, to strive. Not a tall order? 20:17 #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @TheBullAcademy we teach that a soldier showing the Year 11s a video last wednesday means "school open as usual" #ukedchat @a_p_martin Guy Claxton's BLP has certainly worked for us -it's about being creative in delivery that makes sure it happens #ukedchat @dailydenouement did they want you to teach them that? #ukedchat #ukedchat need to rip up the pres structure and start again. Have longer lessons but fewer subjects and link subjects together eg IT & Maths RT @smile2learn: #ukedchat agree Dave need to stay at the forefront of growth areas, they change so quickly though so we need businesss to he intergrated. Tech savvy independent learners in world where jobs/communication/success arent measured by obsolete preconceptions of academia #ukedchat RT @SurrealAnarchy: @LearningSpy I worked in a school whose vision statement said they were preparing children for death #ukedchat @passionateaboot me personally? I try not to but then there is the unfortunate focus of targets and attainment #ukedchat @nightzookeeper you may be agreeing with me, I am afraid that you may not be able to count on agreement from @oldandrewuk #ukedchat #ukedchat let's face it, as professionals what do we do when we have a knowledge gap, look it up online @ufasarah #ukedchat if real=relevant, who defines this? @imrandjk exactly and if we listen to Gove it doesn't appear there will be any time soon :s #ukedchat @dailydenouement I think you can get this into the timetable if the traditional school 'timetable' changes #ukedchat #ukedchat no timetable gr8 idea! Should be teaching explaining/thinking/reasoning/debating/understanding skills thro real life situtaions @Mr_Chas #ukedchat What makes you say that? RT @KempsterD: We have to define what 'curriculum' means and why do we 'deliver' it @ the kids? 19th C model still perpetuated. Time 4 real chnge #ukedchat @imrandjk #ukedchat academies and free schools don't need to follow national curriculum We have to define what 'curriculum' means and why do we 'deliver' it @ the kids? 19th C model still perpetuated. Time 4 real chnge #ukedchat @ben_solly Sadly SKR does NOT have the answers: http://t.co/SK29a17S #ukedchat @LearningSpy #ukedchat They wanted it on their ideal PSHE programme.... I think they tire of UCAS etc Page 13 of 55
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dailydenouement paulhaigh
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @a_p_martin maybe...not sure, I do rate alot of his stuff but havent 20:18 read anything on real learning? #ukedchat @dorristheloris yepbetter to give the kids a project like Big Challenge 'enterprise' and then they find they need to learn to code 20:18 #ukedchat 20:18 @paulhaigh isnt that only in private education? #ukedchat Massively important that we prepare pupils for life in a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multi-faith society. Hence importance of 20:18 RE. #ukedchat @mattpearson #ukedchat I'm afraid short term memory is no bigger than it used to be. It takes as long as it ever did to learn a 20:18 times table. @UKCHAZ @smile2learn Happy children also want to learn. Don't 20:18 view it as a chore. #ukedchat @Mad_teach #ukedchat totally agree.eg Kids think writing only matters in literacy lessons not in geography/history/life! @GillDeCosemo And then what do we teach in the afternoon? ;-) #ukedchat @amoor4ed #ukedchat we apply part of BLP to student support. But I wonder if it would fit in with an opening minds approach. #ukedchat Has anyone asked their pupils this question? What do they say? Shouldn't they be the ones answering this? #ukedchat
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20:19 @mrpeel consequences sounds like a good lesson topic #ukedchat RT @mattpearson: I think schools have to draw some lines in the sand and admit they can't teach everything . . be clear about what 20:19 they can do #ukedchat #ukedchat shoelaces in y3 please ;) And telling the time should lie 20:19 with the parents imo RT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat no timetable gr8 idea! Should be teaching explaining/thinking/reasoning/debating/understanding skills thro real life situtaions #ukedchat i'm very much in favour of teaching children HOW to learn; learning to learn :D RT @KempsterD: We have to define what 'curriculum' means and why do we 'deliver' it @ the kids? 19th C model still perpetuated. Time 4 real chnge #ukedchat I think schools have to draw some lines in the sand and admit they can't teach everything . . be clear about what they can do #ukedchat #ukedchat Timetable will only change if testing changes @teachitso SSOO last week ;-) #ukedchat
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Facilitating RT @passionateaboot: @ukedchat #ukedchat Should 20:19 we be teaching kids at all or facilitating learning? #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? We still need rigour for ensuring progress but with a core ethos of 20:19 skill development #ukedchat it's all about effective teaching isn't it? @dailydenouement Good question! In EYFS, I find most of the dayto-day things are do are social skills, rather than academic. 20:19 #ukedchat @Educationchat Plenty of people don't live in such a society. 20:19 #ukedchat RT @StrictTeacher99: #ukedchat no timetable gr8 idea! Should be teaching explaining/thinking/reasoning/debating/understanding skills thro real life situtaions #ukedchat We need to question more and accept less, to help with eager and inquiring minds. RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I think we need to teach our pupils to 'know what to do when they don't know what to do'. Yes, that's vital @oldandrewuk Absolutely they need to know stuff; I teach them stuff, they can find stuff 4 self & they can also figure stuff out #ukedchat Apologies for my #clarkson moment RT @mattpearson @teachitso you had to mention Pearson!! #ukedchat @mrpeel good point, ideally a range of people and often the yp themselves? #ukedchat Just found the @thebullacademy on #ukedchat that nicely satirises a current edu trend #ukedchat We are collecting the links from tonight at http://t.co/NWqDxE0B so you can look later :-) @Mad_teach GCSE is more than just about facts; facts have to be used to form & present persuasive arguments, certainly in History #ukedchat @GillDeCosemo Ahhh of course! and cookery? Did we say cookery yet? #ukedchat @ufasarah #ukedchat Was it a feeling rather than a bank of set knowledge that enabled you to do these things? RT @GillDeCosemo: We need to teach children to think, listen, question, be curious, investigate, care, be independent, to strive. Not a tall order? #ukedchat
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RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I think we need to teach our pupils to 20:20 'know what to do when they don't know what to do'. @mattpearson Right but without knowing stuff how would know 20:20 where to look for more stuff? #ukedchat 20:20 RT @ukedchat: @teachitso SSOO last week ;-) #ukedchat I do think that in EYFS we have it easier in how flexible we are, 20:20 teaching social skills etc, rather than strict timetable. #ukedchat @pamela_nash Really impressed by this Pamela - the video would 20:20 be useful for teachers to use in PSE lessons! #ukedchat Page 15 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @Educationchat its great for children to lead the learning in this area. They are so knowledgeable about their own faith #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 It wasn't in your list. Yet it is probably the most important. #ukedchat #ukedchat To ensure we pick up your views in the archive, please use the #ukedchat hashtag. Lots of ideas in Hooray for Diffendoofer Day by Dr Suess http://t.co/tVme4d3S #ukedchat @dailydenouement Shouldn't there be an expectation that we share some of the responsibilities for these areas with parents though? #ukedchat @passionateaboot lightly #ukedchat
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#ukedchat we must respond quicker, curriculum planning needs to 20:20 have flexibility and personalised learning must become a reality. #ukedchat How to learn rather than 'game the system' - to look 20:20 beyond the grades. @markolambo I'm in the middle of a debate Mark #ukedchat Sorry 20:21 to clog your timeline 20:21 #ukedchat @smile2learn any good personalized learning strategies for us? 20:21 #ukedchat 20:21 #ukedchat how to accept defeat with good grace? @passionateaboot #ukedchat Do you ask seriously? They know waste; water footprint; climate change; rising food prices...or are 20:21 affected by @dailydenouement Solving intesting problems in the morning, 20:21 leadership in afternnon? #ukedchat #ukedchat offering pupils opportunities and experiences out of 20:21 their comfort zone #ukedchat Most of what our pupils will need to know when they leave school is yet to be invented. We need t (cont) 20:21 http://t.co/z1loEWYL @LearningSpy that is why I was careful to use the phrase 'with the right skills' which includes an awareness of what to look for 20:21 #ukedchat #ukedchat same as it ever was: the ability to understand & 20:21 manipulate the world around them 20:21 @ukedchat @dailydenouement @IaninSheffield I think so, yes - but some pupils don't get that at 20:21 home. Are we really preparing them if we ignore this? #ukedchat @GillDeCosemo that is how they come into school on Reception. 20:22 Current system bashes that out if them... #ukedchat RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat Yes we should be teaching progressive skills; analysis; sifting; synthesising...but what values to underpin 20:22 these?
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @andywhiteway: @JenniH68: #ukedchat offering pupils opportunities and experiences out of their comfort zone agreed! RT @paulbradshaw #ukedchat How to learn rather than 'game the system' - to look beyond the grades >>> This is THE MAJOR challenge facing us! @Educationchat Agreed, but not just RE! That should be part of everything! #ukedchat @passionateaboot dunno really...but I reckon it was based first and foremost on relationships with others #ukedchat @oldandrewuk need to know what to do next #ukedchat RT @neil_povey: Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever their strengths? #ukedchat @a_p_martin i can se my parents response... most want to pull girls from sex ed in PSHE #ukedchat Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever their strengths? #ukedchat
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20:22 @imrandjk #ukedchat Stuck between a rock and a hard place? RT @JenniH68: #ukedchat offering pupils opportunities and 20:22 experiences out of their comfort zone Interesting qu! RT @a_p_martin: @dailydenouement #ukedchat parenting skills - oh yes please. Then again is this just social 20:22 engineering? RT @epaceonline: #ukedchat We need to question more and 20:22 accept less, to help with eager and inquiring minds. @mattbuxton10 that's definitely the best skill at the moment. forming appropriate, functional arguments goes beyond grades . 20:22 #ukedchat do you think we should teach young people the mix of intellectual rigour and random craziness which is a twitterchat? #ukedchat @JenniH68: #ukedchat offering pupils opportunities and experiences out of their comfort zone agreed! @dailydenouement #ukedchat parenting skills - oh yes please. Then again is this just social engineering? Oooh that'd be great! RT @LearningSpy: @dailydenouement Solving intesting problems in the morning, leadership in afternnon? #ukedchat @Mad_teach so we are talking about interest then, children needed to be motivated to learn #ukedchat RT @JenniH68: #ukedchat offering pupils opportunities and experiences out of their comfort zone Simples.
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat get rid of tests as they stand at the moment often I feel like I'm teaching simply to pass test. I want to engage excite enthuse ! @neil_povey Define 'good'? #ukedchat RT @KempsterD: We have to define what 'curriculum' means and why do we 'deliver' it @ the kids? 19th C model still perpetuated. Time 4 real chnge #ukedchat RT @neil_povey: Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever their strengths? #ukedchat #ukedchat i would ban RE as nomenclature and focus on morals and ethics... maybe why I'm not a head #ukedchat @HMIeducation #ukedchat Yes it does. The flipped classroom is a different approach to teaching. The teacher facilitates the application @PhilWheeler1 #ukedchat linking subjects eg maths & ICT or Eng & history is SEN model. Only way they learn. Works well. RT @mattpearson: do you think we should teach young people the mix of intellectual rigour and random craziness which is a twitterchat? #ukedchat @TeacherToolkit A series of tweets I think ;-) #ukedchat @ePaceonline #ukedchat So our plumbers and builders won't be necessary? #ukedchat@mikeatedji Timetable will only change if testing changes. Agreed! Altho its the high stakes of tests that really need to change RT @huthart44: http://t.co/cGIlBJgg donations for our charity walk for help for heroes please RT #educators #ukedchat #teachers #soldiers If we are to prepare children for life, then what is the value of tests? Isn't getting along with people, teamwork more important? #ukedchat
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20:23 @a_p_martin opening minds ? is that a programme?#ukedchat @PhilWheeler1 #ukedchat We have 100min lessons - isn't clear yet 20:23 how successful that'll be. If we are preparing for life then tests am afraid ARE part of life. 20:24 Meeting deadlines is the daily test of any job! #ukedchat @dailydenouement ukedchat didn't being skint at uni teach you 20:24 better about personal finance than any lesson could? RT @amoor4ed We need rigour 4 ensuring progress but with core ethos of skill development #ukedchat all about effective teaching 20:24 >>> BRAVO! @mrpeel #ukedchat don't diss RS lots of mileage in teaching that 20:24 alongside ethics and philosophy 20:24 @Teachric even better solution #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @LearningSpy @oldandrewuk A good point. I was speaking tongue20:24 in-cheek. What's a straw man? #ukedchat 20:24 RT @TeacherToolkit: Simples. 20:24 @LearningSpy #ukedchat How do they do that then? RT @neil_povey: Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever 20:24 their strengths? #ukedchat RT @neil_povey: Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever 20:24 their strengths? #ukedchat #ukedchat What about personal finance? I could've done with 20:24 'Budgeting Basics' before I went off to uni! RT @neil_povey: Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever 20:24 their strengths? #ukedchat 20:24 RT @TeacherToolkit: Simples. #ukedchat Also making pupils (and ourselves) aware of the 20:25 consequences of our choices/actions...locally and globally RT @neil_povey: Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever 20:25 their strengths? #ukedchat @amoor4ed #ukedchat yes. KS3 skills curriculum model. The RSA have a framework but I believe there are others. Often used to 20:25 develop yr9 KS4 @mikeatedji #ukedchat Do they know someone has told them their view, or they have read it? Or do they know because they have 20:25 experience of? 20:25 Should there be a focus on vocational training? #ukedchat @TeacherToolkit totally agree. & by trying our best to be an example of that kind of person we might inspire something in the 20:25 kids!#ukedchat @paulbradshaw #ukedchat re 'gaming the system' - that's OK; it's just being efficient. So let's change the system for 1 not so easily 20:25 gamed #ukedchat RT @paulhaigh: @dailydenouement ukedchat didn't being skint at uni teach you better about personal finance than any 20:25 lesson could? @oldandrewuk fair play should have been- anything else is relatively irrelevant until they know stuff, knowledge from many 20:25 sources #ukedchat 20:25 @smile2learn what has the pupil forum found? #ukedchat Maybe! RT @paulhaigh: @dailydenouement ukedchat didn't being skint at uni teach you better about personal finance than any lesson 20:25 could? @amoor4ed @a_p_martin opening minds is a programme, google 20:25 RSA -opening minds #ukedchat 20:25 @dailydenouement ha yeah i'm sure we all could have #ukedchat 20:25 @oldandrewuk If they live in the UK then they do... #ukedchat Page 19 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @neil_povey #ukedchat Yes. If I am miserable and evil it is not my 20:26 teachers' fault. If I am stupid or ignorant on the other hand... RT @mattpearson: I think schools have to draw some lines in the sand and admit they can't teach everything . . be clear about what 20:26 they can do #ukedchat @mattpearson #ukedchat yes, we expect kids to produce individual pieces of work, in professions you never work alone RSA Opening Minds http://t.co/43Nd4CrO #ukedchat @ICTwitz I think any focus on what anyone but the child deems as the "correct" path is probably where it goes wrong. Give choices #ukedchat Look at the interesting work Ewan McIntosh is exploring with problem finders not problem solvers #ukedchat http://t.co/BvIoOied Make sure you use the #ukedchat hashtag for your tweets to be archived - ta! #ukedchat we need to prepare today's students to be good digital citizens. Especially hard for teachers who don't use social media or tech #ukedchat if we adopt happy planet index along GDP we should surely assess well-being along lit and maths results @ufasarah #ukedchat So what enabled you to forge those relationships with others? RT @ICTwitz: Should there be a focus on vocational training? #ukedchat not universally; vocational medics? RT @huthart44: http://t.co/cGIlBJgg donations for our charity walk for help for heroes please RT #educators #ukedchat #teachers #soldiers @passionateaboot facilitation is a key word. if education stops being forced and is embraced then everything is successful. #ukedchat .@Redsra: @GillDeCosemo >> we help them walk and talk, then tell them to sit down and shut up? #ukedchat Here @TheBullAcademy our Citizenship course teaches the total importance of other people providing us with public services. #ukedchat @jodieworld#ukedchat but I want more relevant tests do agree they're part of life #ukedchat strictteacher99 couldn't agree more! Key stage 1 SATs r a joke. @jodieworld true, but many deadlines are met by a team working together rather than an isolated individual . . #ukedchat #ukedchat Have you ever asked your pupils what they want to be prepared for? @passionateaboot do what? #ukedchat #ukedchat although education should look at transferable skills. I still think that the core of the subject is important. Page 20 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @jodieworld: If we are preparing for life then tests am afraid ARE part of life. Meeting deadlines is the daily test of any job! #ukedchat @Mad_teach what assessment method would you suggest at that age? #ukedchat @aangeli -sounds interesting -i'll check it out #ukedchat @a_p_martin although we're primary based -BLP has been fantastic with us @passionateaboot withdrawing support; encourage risk taking; seeing failure as vital part of learning #ukedchat
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@jodieworld meeting deadlines IS a part of the daily challenge of 20:27 life but being tested (as in examined) isn't #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat how can I keep up with the chat it's 20:27 too slow on tweetdeck Struggling to pick up the thread of #ukedchat this evening as a 20:27 latecomer! We're almost halfway through #ukedchat - lots of ideas, any solutions? HOW can we better prepare our learners for their 20:27 futures? Our SEAL course teaches children that it is possible to be kind and 20:27 nice as long as you get your own way #ukedchat @neil_povey so get rid of unnecessary testing and league tables 20:27 and allow joy in learning for its own sake #ukedchat @aangeli @amoor4ed @a_p_martin #ukedchat. That's the problem! We always look to programmes! Just be with kids and 20:27 open up WITH them. How about Conflict Resolution and Transactional Analysis? 20:27 #ukedchat @ukedchat: RSA Opening Minds http://t.co/tQZc6Dfv 20:27 #ukedchat thanks! RT @Mad_teach: #ukedchat strictteacher99 couldn't agree more! 20:27 Key stage 1 SATs r a joke. We've taught u that the earth is round,that red + white make pink, + something else that matters more-We've taught u how to think 20:27 #ukedchat @StrictTeacher99 KS3 in Wales is test free! All assessment done through project based learning and skills. I like it a lot #ukedchat @StrictTeacher99 @mattpearson True indeed. Both good points! #ukedchat For me tonight's #ukedchat addresses the fundamental problem with over obsession with grades @passionateaboot Perhaps a mixture - What do you think? #ukedchat
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Those addictive Angry Birds are back in our latest pack! Angry Birds 20:27 bookmarks - http://t.co/cWI2MMN4 #free #ukedchat #resources 20:27 @LearningSpy #ukedchat Hold the ladder 'lightly'
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @TeachToAll #ukedchat I agree. While we need to deliver content, showing children that learning is human, desirable and enjoyable is 20:27 key. #ukedchat best lesson obs last yr: GCSE dance - learning by 20:28 allowing failure and building skills 20:28 @paulbradshaw psht: the hashtag is actually #ukedchat... ;-) @elanazak #ukedchat they amaze us all the time, QR codes is the latest interest... And advising a business how to embrace facebook @PhilWheeler1 Yes, and look at the mess they're in!!! Erm...hang on.... #ukedchat RT @geraldhaigh1: It may be that herding children into buildings for compulsory adult-defined lessons isn't the best way to prepare them for life #ukedchat #ukedchat http://t.co/AhF6QRLm this is an idea of how we could be preparing pupils, I think RT @paulbradshaw I also think students need to know how to collaborate w/ others online - but how to avoid concerns about safety? #ukedchat
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20:28 @asober many are jealously looking across the border :) #ukedchat @StrictTeacher99 ditch tweetdeck, log onto http://t.co/FDzLU0Gg 20:28 (and thank me after)... #ukedchat It may be that herding children into buildings for compulsory adultdefined lessons isn't the best way to prepare them for life 20:28 #ukedchat Any suggestions folks? RT @StrictTeacher99: @dailydenouement #ukedchat how can I keep up with the chat it's too slow on 20:28 tweetdeck RT @jodieworld: @ICTwitz I think any focus on what anyone but the child deems as the "correct" path is probably where it goes 20:28 wrong. Give choices #ukedchat #ukedchat certainly in KS1 shouldn't it b fun fun fun so that they 20:28 WANT to learn more? 20:28 @Educationchat Really not true of all of the UK. #ukedchat RT @KempsterD: We have to define what 'curriculum' means and why do we 'deliver' it @ the kids? 19th C model still perpetuated. 20:28 Time 4 real chnge #ukedchat @mattpearson @StrictTeacher99 Maybe group tests ie a group output such as film project/group presentation (which is how IB 20:28 "test") #ukedchat @ConsultantHead @gilldecosemo as they move up the system they 20:28 are closed down and lead their own learning less n less #ukedchat @mrpeel But we still need manual workers, such as plumbers, 20:28 electricians etc in future society #ukedchat @Educationchat #ukedchat As a personal quality, yes. As an aim of education? Unlikely. Who I get on with is not my teacher's choice to 20:29 make. Page 22 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @JanieT56 it's about teachers having a basis of understanding to make sure skills and core curriculum are covered with purpose 20:29 #ukedchat @JanieT56 Of course - I meant vocational or academic choice. Not anything they want! #wouldbefunthough? ;-) #ukedchat @ufasarah :-) and we are jealous of your 604 more on avg per child over the border ;-) #ukedchat @dailydenouement you learnt through failure! Good teacher ;) #ukedchat @trees2066 Topic: What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat How many teachers/schools address global warming and make it a priority over tests/exams? #ukedchat RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat chn that 'require' adult support should be helped to cope without. Leaving school with learned helplessness can not be good RT @neil_povey: Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever their strengths? #ukedchat @neil_povey @TeachToAll children need to have positive experiences from an early age to enjoy learning #ukedchat On World Aids Day, are we doing enough of the 'big issue' stuff? Are we too narrow in our focus? #ukedchat @JanieT56 #ukedchat of course we will always need skills of plumbing etc but the technology they will use to do the work will be different! #ukedchat chn that 'require' adult support should be helped to cope without. Leaving school with learned helplessness can not be good RT @JoPearce: We've taught u that the earth is round,that red + white make pink, + something else that matters more-We've taught u how to think #ukedchat #ukedchat A balance is required: Yes to standards agenda & Yes to skills/qualities/competencies needed to thrive. Got to be about relevance! RT @PhilWheeler1: @ICTwitz It works in Germany, academic, vocational, technical, but backed by Gov and Industry #ukedchat @passionateaboot i think they don't have the time or resources to. facilitation takes more time to introduce, then flows freely. #ukedchat #ukedchat @KempsterD here here!! Shouldn't be just about exams but is this exam board or schools problem. @KempsterD #ukedchat underpinning this is notion that pupils selfdirect their learning and find problems rather than teacher giving problem #ukedchat pupils Can find facts & info for themselves when it becomes relevant. Teach them to be inquisitive&life long learners(&musicians) Page 23 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @mattbuxton10: There are some core concepts kids should be able to apply to knowledge; cause/effect, compare/contrast, sequencing, analogies etc #ukedchat @Redsra @paulhaigh of course some tasks are individual but some are team driven and school assessment is <e>always</e> individual #ukedchat @ben_solly all teachers should be made to view #ukedchat just once to see real value. Maybe a national inset and a 1 off daytime ukedchat @ufasarah #ukedchat so fewer silly rules, more your rules? There are some core concepts kids should be able to apply to knowledge; cause/effect, compare/contrast, sequencing, analogies etc #ukedchat RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat chn that 'require' adult support should be helped to cope without. Leaving school with learned helplessness can not be good many children now will enter jobs that yet exist wen they leave school so makes sense to develop flexible, lifelong learners #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: @trees2066 Topic: What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat>>@RonSymington there! #ukedchat could you all pause while I empty the dishwasher, I'm enjoying this @ConsultantHead Ha but besides passing exams, does he see anything else he wants to learn in school? #ukedchat @Redsra @gilldecosemo My favourite lessons are those when we spend a day being creative eg working in a wood building shelters #ukedchat @MusicEdLife absolutely - music is at the core of being - too often left out #ukedchat #frustratedmusician To prepare students to work in collaboration with others, teamwork is a key skill to have #ukedchat I think Thinking, Adaptability and Interdependence are key skills teachers need to help learners aquire #ukedchat @mattpearson it might just sell #ukedchat @passionateaboot presumably ;) #ukedchat That's why I love MoE. It encourages collaborative working, problem-solving, using initiative,decision making and reasoning skills #ukedchat
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#ukedchat We shouldn't over estimate the pace of real change 20:31 preparing students for _today_ would be a good start @davidhunter #ukedchat disagree, a need to create learners who actively look for help for learning opportunities from wherever it 20:31 comes from 20:31 We should be guiding them to be collaborators ! #ukedchat @ukedchat Preparing for the unknown. Anyone who dares to predict what job my 4 yr old will be doing in 2075 is braver than 20:31 me! #ukedchat Page 24 of 55
What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @passionateaboot #ukedchat That's a valid point but pupils are engaged in learning about sustainabty cos it is to do with their real lives @LearningSpy #ukedchat Presumably for teachers as well as students? @passionateaboot Very unlikely that Ss views come from experience co they're inexperienced. #ukedchat @davidhunter @dailydenouement Certainly an issue sometimes in our special schools #ukedchat @mrpeel if you can empty your dishwasher then thank a teacher (the bumper sticker they never made) #ukedchat
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20:31 @mattbuxton10 agree mustnt lose sight of those #ukedchat @KempsterD Nah I watch too many comedians... "The planet is 20:31 fine, the people are screwed" - George Carlin ;-) #ukedchat RT @JanieT56: @jodieworld @ICTwitz Has to be choice within 20:31 limits. Anarchy won't work. #ukedchat 20:32 @aiddy #ukedchat today is yesterday to quickly. At SLT mtg tonight, we discussed lack of transferable skills between 20:32 KS3-KS4. Skills, PLTS, SEAL etc. #UKEdChat #ukedchat @passionateaboot They can self direct their learning when they find about the stuff they use/eat/wear: Where/how was 20:32 it made? @amoor4ed agree. Rarely seen as vital to building confidence 20:32 socially #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat Cognitive psychology suggests our ability to apply knowledge hinges to a large degree on how well we 20:32 know it. RT @KempsterD: Look at the interesting work Ewan McIntosh is exploring with problem finders not problem solvers #ukedchat 20:32 http://t.co/BvIoOied I cannot even predict what MY job will be in ten years...let alone 29 20:32 other people's! #ukedchat Collaboration really is a key discussion. If children learn to facilitate, 20:32 it helps the learning process itself. #ukedchat RT @paulbradshaw PS: This is one example of doing that at MA 20:32 level: http://t.co/onhlAr5o #ukedchat RT @YMSchools: We would love more followers. Can you help us reach 500 by Christmas? Please RT! #ukedchat #teachers 20:32 #wellbeing bit.ly/ti82yx RT @PhilWheeler1: @ben_solly all teachers should be made to view #ukedchat just once to see real value. Maybe a national inset 20:32 and a 1 off daytime ukedchat @passionateaboot negotiated rules perhaps? what about you? 20:32 #ukedchat @HMIeducation #ukedchat What about the knowledge or 20:32 experience of as well?
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @ConsultantHead @dailydenoument #ukedchat an issue in 20:33 mainstream as I see it. Much rather see the chn help each other RT @C_Hendrick: Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 20:33 'right' questions, not memorize the 'right' answers. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Even more important then that children who do live in such a society know how to cope in a multi-cultural society. 20:33 #ukedchat @passionateaboot facilitation enables more informed and enjoyable education. more opportunities for new experiences as a 20:33 result #ukedchat @mattpearson #ukedchat yes we see the importance of group 20:33 work in learning but it doesn't surface in assessment (did at my uni) @trees2066 @ukedchat if there working then their paying into the pensions pot, so Gov will be happy. The only certainty @aiddy we talk about technology and the future but in reality, technology for children is the present! #ukedchat We can't get away from standards -that's why we need to be clever and focussed with curriculum delivery #ukedchat Perfect! RT @C_Hendrick: Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 'right' questions, not memorize the 'right' answers. #ukedchat @dailydenouement why have to slyly insert non-compliance into the curriculum #ukedchat @LearningSpy #ukedchat So whose view is it? Do teachers influence pupils with their slant of the knowledge and what they choose to present? @Mad_teach I would def agree with you, by testing so early you can destroy a child's love for learning, we are too quick to label #ukedchat RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I think we need to prepare pupils to navigate through media/cyber saturated lives carefully & recognise bias, manipulation etc RT @HMIeducation: Collaboration really is a key discussion. If children learn to facilitate, it helps the learning process itself. #ukedchat RT @TeacherToolkit: At SLT mtg tonight, we discussed lack of transferable skills between KS3-KS4. Skills, PLTS, SEAL etc. #UKEdChat Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 'right' questions, not memorize the 'right' answers. #ukedchat RT @KempsterD We have to define what curriculum means & why we 'deliver' it. 19th C model still perpetuated. Time 4 change #ukedchat >> YES!
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @nightzookeeper completely agree..this is a skill children can take with them throughout life...lifelong learning :D #ukedchat #ukedchat I think we need to prepare pupils to navigate through media/cyber saturated lives carefully & recognise bias, manipulation etc @Redsra even authors don't write alone, their editors work with them, I think it's rare to 'work' alone #ukedchat RT @Mad_teach #ukedchat certainly in KS1 shouldn't it b fun fun fun so that they WANT to lrn more?> always bt that's hw it shd be in evry yr
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20:33 @jodieworld I hoped to have retired in 10 years... #ukedchat @oldandrewuk No - but a teacher can help you develop skills needed to cope with all sorts of people, whether you like them or 20:34 not. #ukedchat #ukedchat NI Curriculum aims 'to develop each child as an 20:34 individual and contributors to society, economy and environment' @c_clark1 Exactly! They distort and pervert what is meaningful 20:34 about learning for life beyond schoool walls #ukedchat 20:34 @dailydenouement @C_Hendrick I like your thinking! #ukedchat RT @oldandrewuk: @neil_povey #ukedchat Yes. If I am miserable and evil it is not my teachers' fault. If I am stupid or ignorant on the 20:34 other hand... RT @mattbuxton10: @oldandrewuk @SurrealAnarchy I don't think the Trivium is a bad way of looking at it at all; the clothes line all 20:34 else hangs off? #ukedchat @ConsultantHead @Redsra Sounds like the perfect start to the 20:34 day! #ukedchat @mrpeel would love to be retired in 10 years can't imagine being 20:34 there still at 68!(in 19 years time) #ukedchat @JamiePortman Agree. Curriculum today is old fashioned already. 20:34 #UKEdChat 20:34 @paulhaigh aaahh but that would be cheating :-) #ukedchat RT @C_Hendrick: Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 'right' questions, not memorize the 'right' answers. #ukedchat @LearningSpy why be sly? Teach them to challenge intelligently when faced by obstacles #ukedchat @passionateaboot Inevitably - teaching is indoctrination - doesn't smell as sweet though #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @SurrealAnarchy I don't think the Trivium is a bad way of looking at it at all; the clothes line all else hangs off? #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @Educationchat: @oldandrewuk Even more important then that children who do live in such a society know how to cope in a 20:34 multi-cultural society. #ukedchat RT @C_Hendrick: Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 20:34 'right' questions, not memorize the 'right' answers. #ukedchat @mrpeel So did I ...but I would only be 43... ;-) #ukedchat ...Maybe 20:34 by 45... @JanieT56 #ukedchat agreed - point was I've been using the net since early 90s. Have recently moved from tech industry 2 edu & 20:35 am shocked *and* the children also problem-find during mantle of the expert. 20:35 Then they colaborate to solve the problems! #ukedchat Agree with @dailydenouement. As Media teacher feel like NC crying out for better digital literacy #ukedchat - jus look @ leveson! #ukedchat disciplines like ToK really help develop ability to see past media distortion #ukedchat I always come in late to #ukedchat and never know what's going on :( @mattpearson tweetchat sorted thank you @mrpeel Sly because schools teach compliance #ukedchat RT @jodieworld @KempsterD Nah I watch too many comedians... "The planet is fine, the people are screwed" - George Carlin ;-) #ukedchat >true
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RT @StrictTeacher99: @mrpeel would love to be retired in 10 years 20:35 can't imagine being there still at 68!(in 19 years time) #ukedchat #ukedchat I think outstanding teachers often use facilitation rather 20:35 than 'teaching' e.g. posing a student's question back to whole class @mikeatedji How is it to do with their real lives? Is it not to do with 20:35 their future lives? #ukedchat RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat i would ban RE as nomenclature and focus on morals and ethics... maybe why I'm not a head #ukedchat RT @dmchugh675: #ukedchat NI Curriculum aims 'to develop each child as an individual and contributors to society, economy and environment' Who should be 'in charge' of saying what we need to prepare learners for? #ukedchat RT @dailydenouement: Perfect! RT @C_Hendrick: Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 'right' questions, not memorize the 'right' answers. #ukedchat @passionateaboot No- It's to do with right now. If you use digital tech, someone has dug up the coltan. We are all connected. #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat I think we need to prepare pupils to navigate through media/cyber saturated liv (cont) 20:36 http://t.co/HB0FaVjV @nicwwfc Topic: What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat. Last 25 minutes or so. Join the 20:36 debate @mrpeel @LearningSpy agree, we need to give them challenges every day to solve instead of spoon feeding facts. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk But once they have secure knowledge of something they should do something with it? Agreed though knowing stuff is key #ukedchat @ufasarah #ukedchat PE and sport gave me the chance to be me, and not to have to listen or read someone else's idea of what I needed to know RT @Educationchat: Massively important that we prepare pupils for life in a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multi-faith society. Hence importance of RE. #ukedchat @StrictTeacher99 the 'thanking' bit was a tongue in cheek, but it is the best way to do busy chats.... #ukedchat @mrpeel Agreed. Amen. #ukedchat RT @dukkhaboy: @LearningSpy @dailydenouement #ukedchat we can also sneak non compliance into the WAY we teach if we cant control all the curriculum ;)
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@dmchugh675 The NI curriculum looks fab- I had to reference it for 20:36 some writing I did. Really impressed #ukedchat #UKEdChat Work with @iris_Connect today. 21st T&L technology in the classroom. Teachers & students improving their 20:36 own learning. #ICT @Educationchat #ukedchat "Coping" sounds like something taught 20:36 by a therapist, not a teacher. @amoor4ed the phrase 'curriculum delivery' doesn't fit with modern curriculum for me. Compounds a 'distributor of knowledge' 20:36 image #ukedchat RT @paulhaigh: #ukedchat I think outstanding teachers often use facilitation rather than 'teaching' e.g. posing a student's question 20:36 back to whole class @LearningSpy @dailydenouement #ukedchat we can also sneak non compliance into the WAY we teach if we cant control all the 20:36 curriculum ;) RT @markbrumley: Fun projects with web 2.0 sticky notes. Add 20:36 your favorite! http://t.co/CzF4vh5B #vitalcpd #ukedchat RT @dailydenouement: Perfect! RT @C_Hendrick: Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 'right' questions, not memorize 20:37 the 'right' answers. #ukedchat 20:37 #ukedchat - late joining! What are we talking about tonight?
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @passionateaboot So let's inform ourselves - e.g the food we eat, clothes we wear...fairly produced or not? Children r interested 20:37 #ukedchat RT @amoor4ed: @MusicEdLife absolutely - music is at the core of being - too often left out #ukedchat #frustratedmusician #ukedchat I teach in a girls' school - not gender specific but do feel need to prepare pupils to be able to say no & not cave in to pressure @mikeatedji #ukedchat So how do you decide what they need to know about what they eat/wear etc? RT Here here!@C_hendrick Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 'right' questions, not memorize the 'right' answers. #ukedchat
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20:37 @nightzookeeper @mrpeel @LearningSpy so true #ukedchat #ukedchat Ultimately to create and implement original ideas to 20:37 solve new problems. 20:37 @TeachToAll this is a myth #ukedchat 20:37 @nightzookeeper I know - with fewer prejudices... #ukedchat 20:37 @ukedchat thanks! Will do! @GillDeCosemo @redsra That's why it has to be embedded in the 20:37 ethos of a school #ukedchat RT@paulhaigh: #ukedchat I think outstanding teachers often 20:37 use facilitation rather than 'teaching'" - couldn't agree more! RT @Educationchat: Massively important that we prepare pupils for life in a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multi-faith society. Hence 20:37 importance of RE. #ukedchat #ukedchat @the_college 's outstanding and improving teacher programmes teach facilitation through modeling 20:37 http://t.co/pSTJSDj2 @SheliBB #ukedchat I used one of my chn as a teaching assistant 20:37 today @aangeli #ukedchat yes, a national curriculum can't serve the 20:38 needs of a kid in Surrey and Barnsley @andywhiteway @dailydenouement working on digital literacy project myself http://t.co/Owe3qgJk be great to hear your thoughts 20:38 #ukedchat Or rather teachers *should be* rather thank overcrowding brains 20:38 with information that will be regurgitated yet pointless #ukedchat Do we have to wait for the government to change the curriculum 20:38 before teachers make learning relevant?? #ukedchat @Slardack they won't be wageslaves, workfare did away with the 20:38 wage part...just slaves now!! #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @SheliBB: That's why I love MoE. It encourages collaborative working, problem-solving, using initiative,decision making and reasoning skills #ukedchat @HMIeducation #ukedchat How many teachers do you think have ever experienced really exquisite #facilitation ? @LearningSpy: @passionateaboot Inevitably - teaching is indoctrination - doesn't smell as sweet though #ukedchat <what we do is political @dailydenouement Students will be parents for a long time. #ukedchat @passionateaboot isn't that parental? Are we responsible for everything now? #ukedchat
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teachers are preparing their pupils to have the tools and thought 20:38 processes to be able to tackle what they want to in life #ukedchat @TeachToAll #ukedchat Which country do you teach in? In England 20:38 we have a 20th century "progressive" curriculum. What are we preparing pupils for RT @clairegowland: #ukedchat 20:38 late joining! What are we talking about tonight? @davidhunter promote them to teacher next! I love it when they 20:38 take over the classroom! #lazyteacher #ukedchat The curriculum should be adapted to the world we live in 20:38 #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I'm sure as hell NOT preparing them to be wage slaves to suit this bloody awful gov @RonSymington Definitely important. Especially if University is priced out of the majority... #ukedchat RT @SheliBB: *and* the children also problem-find during mantle of the expert. Then they colaborate to solve the problems! #ukedchat #ukedchat we should prepare children to be prepared... #ukedchat I may be idealistic but feel we should prepare pupils to fight against injustice, inequality etc - to stand up for selves & others @Cherise_Duxbury welcome, 'what are we supposed to be preparing students for in the future' #ukedchat @HMIeducation #ukedchat, you only have to see how pupils respond to a group work challenge or role play withi (cont) http://t.co/oLRR5KJ9 @LearningSpy #ukedchat Hmm, who would send their child to school to be indoctrinated? @passionateaboot find out what values pupils think r important.e.g fairness...rights...whatever. Then see if our lives measure up #ukedchat @trees2066 no, but we do need the insistance on % and league tables to go #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat Should be teaching them independence & as teachers we often forget that and 'over teach' Also that they can make a difference @PhilWheeler1 #ukedchat no. Gov should spearhead this as putting is at the front of global industries will pay the exchequer nicely RT @passionateaboot: @ufasarah #ukedchat PE and sport gave me the chance to be me, and not to have to listen or read someone else's idea of what I needed to know @passionateaboot and was that mainly extra curricular or in lessons too? #ukedchat @passionateaboot This is not indoctrination. It's finding out about values by measuring our lives against the ones we proclaim #ukedchat @Sian_Rowland it does and it is. We have a one page statement of minimum entitlement for each subject in KS3...that's it! #ukedchat RT @ikeontoast: #ukedchat we should prepare children to be prepared... RT @paulhaigh: #ukedchat I think outstanding teachers often use facilitation rather than 'teaching' e.g. posing a student's question back to whole class @mrpeel don't motivated learners who are resilient and resourceful and can collaborate through rich learning achieve high %s? #ukedchat we are preparing students for their future employability in a very competitive world. Attitude, work ethic and flexibility #ukedchat @MrAColley #ukedchat And thereby leaving them unable to cope with all the old problems? @passionateaboot We ALL want Ss to be indoctrinated with what WE think is right. Just an ugly word #ukedchat unesco's 4 pillars of learning are worth looking at 'Learning to know, do, be & live with each other google 'The treasure within'. #ukedchat @paulhaigh By facilitation thru questions do you mean using socratic questioning to lead them to understanding? Is still teaching? #ukedchat RT @Educationchat: @davidhunter @SheliBB Last week we had a takeover day. All Y6 took on jobs of adults. They were worn out but learned loads! #ukedchat
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#ukedchat I mean teaching chdn about moral issues and telling 20:40 them they will make the world what it will be in the future @passionateaboot many of the 1500 parents at my school - only 20:40 interested in "results" #ukedchat @clairegowland What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat topic. 20 mins to go. Join the 20:40 chat :-)
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat I try to teach them that the score/level/grade that their mate got is irrelevant. It's about if they've improved & how to 20:40 move on 20:40 @Cherise_Duxbury What are we preparing pupils for #ukedchat @davidhunter @SheliBB Last week we had a takeover day. All Y6 took on jobs of adults. They were worn out but learned loads! 20:40 #ukedchat @trees2066 loosely used in terms of what we need to deliver in school - certainly not bound in knowledge #ukedchat @passionateaboot You sound skeptical. Do you think not a lot? #ukedchat #facilitation We need brill new buildings not based on old model (oops BSF) but buildings that reflect real learning spaces not 'teaching' spcs. #ukedchat What are your students most switched on about? When do they get most excited in their learning? #ukedchat @oldandrewuk simply quoting recent research ive carried out on this one! #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat yes can be that, but also working with the learners questions put to the group rather than the teachers questions
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we should of course teach every child the difference between 'lose' 20:41 and 'loose', lest I 'loose my mind' . . . #ukedchat @trees2066 not if the teaching is solely to exam to get those grades which is why I like the IBDP post 16 #ukedchat RT @DepJo: #ukedchat I mean teaching chdn about moral issues and telling them they will make the world what it will be in the future @davidhunter totally agree but just can't see that happening whoever is in power #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Check your job description. Part of the job. You saying teachers shouldn't get involved in this sort of thing? #ukedchat @DepJo Agree with this, it the main area of focus for our curriculum in SEN, independence and life skills #ukedchat
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20:41 #ukedchat Can we ever really prepare pupils for their futures? #ukedchat I can't keep up with the talk tonight, but some really brill 20:41 comments. I love it RT @dailydenouement: @C_Hendrick: Ultimately we should be 20:41 teaching kids to ask the 'right' questions, Try #QFT. #ukedchat Perhaps we should prepare pupils how to vote idiots out of 20:41 government #ukedchat 20:41 @amoor4ed of course. Didn't mean to be #pedantic! #ukedchat Page 33 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? 20:41 RT @LearningSpy: @TeachToAll this is a myth #ukedchat RT @SheliBB: agree! @paulhaigh OfSTED have seen me twiddling my thumbs and pretending to fall asleep in outstanding lesson led 20:42 by children #ukedchat @oldandrewuk #ukedchat Understand how that can be seen as an 20:42 'old problem' though. @ConsultantHead they get excited about watching DVDs and the 20:42 weekend #ukedchat RT @ICTwitz: Perhaps we should prepare pupils how to vote idiots 20:42 out of government #ukedchat You can at least give them the basic tools they'll need RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat Can we ever really prepare pupils 20:42 for their futures? there's a blog post there I think! Can u deliver?@LearningSpy: 20:42 @TeachToAll this is a myth #ukedchat @mikeatedji So they benefit positively from the digging of the 20:42 coltan? when does it become a sustainability issue?#ukedchat agree! @paulhaigh OfSTED have seen me twiddling my thumbs and pretending to fall asleep in outstanding lesson led by children 20:42 #ukedchat 20:42 @LeeDonaghy SWEEPING statement.... #ukedchat RT @huthart44: http://t.co/cGIlBJgg donations for our charity walk for help for heroes please RT #educators #ukedchat #teachers 20:42 #soldiers @mattpearson and proper use of the apostrophe is critical too 20:42 #ukedchat @neil_povey @teachtoall however its sometimes difficult to get all 20:42 parents on the same page #ukedchat @Educationchat @davidhunter @shelibb That sounds great - is 20:42 there a blog post somewhere? #ukedchat @ConsultantHead What are your students most switched on about? << Independent research and fact finding activities/projects 20:42 #ukedchat @oldandrewuk #ukedchat No, but I haven't solved global warming etc yet, so teaching them to think like me won't help them do so 20:42 either. @ICTwitz: Perhaps we should prepare pupils how to vote idiots 20:42 out of government #ukedchat>>>like this RT @paulhaigh: #ukedchat I think outstanding teachers often use facilitation rather than 'teaching' e.g. posing a student's question 20:43 back to whole class The ultimate issue is balancing individual needs and bulk delivery of 20:43 knowledge #ukedchat @mrpeel agreed -of course. just think that the two go hand in hand if u have right approach to learning - results a nice byproduct 20:43 #ukedchat @paulhaigh (on more than one occasion too!) #ukedchat 20:43 #lazyteacher Page 34 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? Has anyone got a link to a nice interactive advent calendar that is 20:43 suitable for Reception? #earlyyears #ukedchat #advent #christmas 20:43 #ukedchat We need to help pupils to be resilient and responsible RT @geraldhaigh1: It may be that herding children into buildings for compulsory adult-defined lessons isn't the best way to prepare 20:43 them for life #ukedchat @passionateaboot Because child labourers are not going to school because of it...same with some choc we eat..clothes we wear 20:43 #ukedchat 20:43 RT @LearningSpy: @TeachToAll this is a myth #ukedchat #ukedchat we should teach kids to be able to adapt and deal with 20:43 new situations @PhilWheeler1 #ukedchat they threaten it from time to time. E.g. 20:43 that gaming report recently #ukedchat perseverance, creativity,self worth, entitlement. Values 20:43 of the elite! 20:43 @MusicEdLife It's on @OldAndrewuk's site #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat Strange thing is, when you know something well you don't have to be *taught* to do something 20:43 with it. RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat Can we ever really prepare 20:43 pupils for their futures? learning to learn! teaching children the skills for life-long learning! 20:44 #ukedchat 20:44 @KiDu89 lol not to mention pubic personae #ukedchat #ukedchat RT @GeoCollective: @dailydenouement no, but we can 20:44 prepare the future for our pupils... @dailydenouement We can only equip them for what we currently understand - look at the tech in the last ten years for example. 20:44 #ukedchat @dailydenouement we can try. Unfortunately we often end up preparing them for our past through dated ideas and practises. 20:44 #ukedchat #ukedchat Students need to be taught the importance of resilience, 20:44 that mistakes are a crucial part if learning http://t.co/u1T1eaFx @mrpeel This is the tail end of a conversation about sustainability not advocating teachers do the jobs of patents. Relieved? 20:44 #ukedchat 20:44 What part have industry 'experts' got to play in this? #ukedchat RT @GeoCollective: We need to close the gap between academic 20:44 research, government policy, curriculum and practice... #ukedchat @ukedchat how to utilise their strengths in everyday life and how 20:44 to use these strengths t become transferable skills
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat Can we ever really prepare 20:44 pupils for their futures? #ukedchat Far too easy to blame government...or buildings...or lack of this or that. Come 9 a.m. tomorrow, every teacher has another 20:44 shot! 20:44 @aangeli Thanks #ukedchat @mattpearson I get some children (Y5) writing about girls with 'grey tits' in their writing... meaning grey tights of course #ukedchat Tonight's #ukedchat debate is linked to the #purposed campaign. Check my blog post: 'What is the purpose of education?' http://t.co/VncIPykn RT @geraldhaigh1: It may be that herding children into buildings for compulsory adult-defined lessons isn't the best way to prepare them for life #ukedchat unashamed to admit I had to 'google' Coltan and find out what it was....but now I know... #ukedchat @mattpearson and is it a medicine? #ukedchat We need to make sure pupils can communicate when they want to in a variety of different ways. #ukedchat RT @gavinsmart: We should prepare the pupils to use tech of the future!The start of the future? Using iPads in the classroom http://t.co/WPJF7XQo #ukedchat RT @creativeartsco: #ukedchat how to utilise their strengths in everyday life and how to use these strengths t become transferable skills RT @JamiePortman: Tonight's #ukedchat debate is linked to the #purposed campaign. Check my blog post: 'What is the purpose of education?' http://t.co/VncIPykn RT @oldandrewuk: @dailydenouement #ukedchat It's always a dubious assumption that educaiton is about the future rather than the past. Read Hannah Arendt.
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RT @TeachToAll: learning to learn! teaching children the skills for 20:45 life-long learning! #ukedchat >> great L2L work - still really relevant RT @JamiePortman: Tonight's #ukedchat debate is linked to the #purposed campaign. Check my blog post: 'What is the purpose of 20:45 education?' http://t.co/VncIPykn @Redsra @learningspy #ukedchat Even in your classroom? Who's 20:45 in front of the pupils? #ukedchat Anyone mentioned Piaget yet? "Intelligence is what you 20:45 use when you don't know what to do". #ukedchat I tried to sum up what my school is all about and what's 20:45 the point at http://t.co/u7MfLJcf @dailydenouement #ukedchat It's always a dubious assumption that educaiton is about the future rather than the past. Read 20:45 Hannah Arendt. @ePaceonline Well said- resilience is so important for children. 20:45 #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @DepJo So is our job as teachers to create the learning 20:45 environment for that to happen? #ukedchat #ukedchat I think many of us have the problem that we are actually preparing our children for an economy an (cont) 20:45 http://t.co/XipiXC8Z @passionateaboot Of course these are sustainability issues. Looking into the source of our food/goods is an issue of equity 20:45 #ukedchat RT @mattpearson: 'learning to learn' may not be enough..it may 20:46 have to be 'learning to learn to learn' #ukedchat >> it's a start! @ben_solly totally agree. What was it Edison said...'I haven't failed, 20:46 I've just discovered thousands of things that don't work.' #ukedchat @ePaceonline it's really something that should be embraced. embracing a challenge as a group is equal to facing a challenge 20:46 alone. #ukedchat #ukedchat The challenge then becomes to prepare pupils for coping 20:46 with those flaws, whichever route their life takes. #ukedchat What prepared you? What skills/knowledge do you have 20:46 now you wished you'd had earlier? Is there food for thought... @ConsultantHead nope, it's black boring stuff, but then it gets made into computers and phones and Xboxes etc,.. . #ukedchat @mattpearson and learning to unlearn...may be even more important #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @dailydenouement Interesting point. Yet we still have to consider time's arrow. #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: @passionateaboot If I tackle racism I am indoctrinating Ss with the view that racism is unacceptable . What would you do? #ukedchat
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@passionateaboot If I tackle racism I am indoctrinating Ss with the 20:46 view that racism is unacceptable . What would you do? #ukedchat @ukedchat sounds good to me - we've just been looking at some activities to get yp to look at their strengths #ukedchat @dailydenouement # #ukedchat , there is nothing wrong with being idealistic! 'learning to learn' may not be enough..it may have to be 'learning to learn to learn' #ukedchat Confident, creative, challenged and compassionate ...that's what I want my pupils to be @ukedchat use drama for social and confidence development, art for presentation skills, music for communication and dance for interaction To value their own experiences and expertise. #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? Can we ever really properly prepare them for their, there & 20:46 they're?! #ukedchat #baneofthenglishteacher @andywhiteway maybe we shoodnt bother with spelling or 20:47 punctuashun in future....revert to Chaucer! #ukedchat RT @GeoCollective: We need to close the gap between academic research, government policy, curriculum and practice... #ukedchat @KempsterD #ukedchat, like the idea of 'learning spaces' rather than 'teaching spaces', ideally there should be both. @davidhunter #ukedchat true but it never quite turns into anything actually happening RT @JenniH68: Confident, creative, challenged and compassionate ...that's what I want my pupils to be
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@LearningSpy I agree..."indoctrination" is a silly word to use 20:47 here...it's used to scare ppl from tackling ethics/equity #ukedchat 20:47 @ufasarah @ukedchat can you share? #ukedchat RT @1jh1: #ukedchat I tried to sum up what my school is all about 20:47 and what's the point at http://t.co/u7MfLJcf RT @oldandrewuk: @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat Strange thing is, when you know something well you don't have to be *taught* to 20:47 do something with it. @dailydenouement #UKEdChat. We are preparing children for life. 20:47 What are you preparing them for? @ben_solly #ukedchat Agreed. Will check out the link later. Have a 20:47 look at my blog post about it too. http://t.co/RONEbn2s RT @ikeontoast: @ICTwitz: Perhaps we should prepare pupils 20:47 how to vote idiots out of government #ukedchat>>>like this @TeacherToolkit definitely, especially in light of functional elements coming into GCSE papers, particularly maths. Valuable tho 20:47 #UKEdChat @ufasarah #ukedchat Mostly extra curric, but loved PE as well. Do 20:47 others get that same feeling from art/music/dance?? @Educationchat #ukedchat I'm saying that amateur therapy is not a good thing. We are not therapists, parents or priests. @ufasarah there are indeed many things I which I could unlearn :-) #ukedchat RT @trees2066 Do we have to wait for the Govt. to change the curriculum before teachers make learning relevant? #ukedchat >> Great question! #ukedchat RT @JanieT56: @dailydenouement NO! BUt we can prepare them by developing the dispositions they wil (cont) http://t.co/3y4me4jx RT @mattpearson: learning to learn may not be enough..it may have to be learning to learn to learn #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @ConsultantHead: @JamiePortman @trees2066 I think teachers have always subverted the 'national' curriculum and made 20:48 it relevant. #ukedchat RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat current modular approach teaches if you 20:48 fail - no worries, try agian and the world will wait for you - bollocks #ukedchat current modular approach teaches if you fail - no worries, try agian and the world will wait for you - bollocks @JamiePortman @trees2066 I think teachers have always subverted the 'national' curriculum and made it relevant. #ukedchat the importance of life long learning, respect for themselves and others #ukedchat @mikeatedji Maybe it's a sensible word to use then. Why not be honest? #ukedchat @Good_2_Go @dailydenouement That is a huge claim. Like your style, nonetheless! #ukedchat @mikeatedji #ukedchat How old are these pupils? How have they formed their values? @nightzookeeper share what? sorry not keeping up tonight! #ukedchat @passionateaboot @learningspy perhaps 'ideological' is a better word to use #ukedchat @PhilWheeler1 #ukedchat nanotechnology gcse ;) @ConsultantHead @JamiePortman @trees2066 Indeed but you have to have a certain confidence as a professional to do that #ukedchat
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20:49 #ukedchat I often feel like doing a lesson in common sense! RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat What prepared you? What skills/knowledge do you have now you wished you'd had earlier? Is 20:49 there food for thought... RT @mattpearson: 'learning to learn' may not be enough..it may 20:49 have to be 'learning to learn to learn' #ukedchat RT @ePaceonline #ukedchat We need to help pupils to be resilient 20:49 and responsible.>agree so much. Resilience is so so so important. RT @Stephen_Logan: the importance of life long learning, respect 20:49 for themselves and others #ukedchat @HMIeducation #ukedchat I wonder how many have been 20:49 'trained'. Is good facilitation rare? @passionateaboot @learningspy not 'party politics' but even in the classroom we are political in how and what we choose to teach 20:49 #ukedchat RT @creativeartsco: #ukedchat use drama for social and confidence 20:49 development, art for presentation skills, music for communication
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? what skills, competencies, attributes do u think a 21stC learner will need to become successful, look for that in yr curriculums #UKEDCHAT RT @dailydenouement: Perfect! RT @C_Hendrick: Ultimately we should be teaching kids to ask the 'right' questions, not memorize the 'right' answers. #ukedchat RT @paulhaigh: think my wife is trying to attract me back into real world- mince pie, tea and tin of roses chocs just arrived- bye #ukedchat @dailydenouement I wish I'd been taught punctuation earlier and better. #ukedchat @LearningSpy We can be free to disagree, as long as we justify our positions...difficult for racists to do I suggest #ukedchat @LearningSpy #ukedchat Do we? Do you speak for all teachers or is it the royal we? learning from mistakes and that dare I say it sometimes we fail at things. It's how we react and keep going #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @LeeDonaghy Couldn't disagree more. It's vital teachers help children get on with each other any way they can. #ukedchat We've got 10 mins left #ukedchat What do you feel you do personally to prepare yr learners for future? Beyond nat curric remit perhaps... @JenniH68 Confident, creative, challenged and compassionate - that's what I want my pupils to be @trisha_telfer good social skills to be teaching! #ukedchat
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@LearningSpy Because it's genuinely not - discussing values is just 20:50 not that. We shouldn't have to agree them - #ukedchat #ukedchat It might sound old fashioned, but I try to show the value 20:50 of hard work too. Start point doesn't matter if you put the effort in. think my wife is trying to attract me back into real world- mince pie, tea and tin of roses chocs just arrived- bye #ukedchat @ukedchat @creativeartsco use drama for all skills! :) @mrpeel #ukedchat and what are the pupils interested in? RT @dailydenouement: We've got 10 mins left #ukedchat What do you feel you do personally to prepare yr learners for future? Beyond nat curric remit perhaps... RT @ufasarah: RT @Maireths: As well as preparing them for the future we should also teach/ help them to enjoy the present #ukedchat So agree with you!
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @Maireths: As well as preparing them for the future we should also teach/ help them to enjoy the present #ukedchat RT @Redsra: @passionateaboot @learningspy not 'party politics' but even in the classroom we are political in how and what we choose to teach #ukedchat RT @Maireths: As well as preparing them for the future we should also teach/ help them to enjoy the present #ukedchat So agree with you! @passionateaboot Have forgotten what I said 'we' about #ukedchat There are some obvious things we are not doing: how to eat well, be emotionally connected, play outdoors, use the net effectively #ukedchat RT @Stephen_Logan: learning from mistakes and that dare I say it sometimes we fail at things. It's how we react and keep going #ukedchat don't forget national curriculum applies to fewer and fewer schools, this is not an academic theory discussion #ukedchat As well as preparing them for the future we should also teach/ help them to enjoy the present #ukedchat @dmchugh675 Watch and learn, England, watch and learn...#ukedchat @Redsra Yes - certainly more palatable. But maybe not as honest? #ukedchat @ben_solly #ukedchat agree absolutely, mistakes are crucial part of learning Curruic needs to be flexible enough so that those who can't access it learn the life skills they need #ukedchat RT @danpotheteacher: @dailydenouement treat them like humans, with respect. A lot don't get it at home/outside school, sadly #ukedchat
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@MissionExplore Interesting that people don't seem to like 20:52 structured PSHE but like the philosophy of PSHE #ukedchat @amoor4ed and yet it is more marginalised as a subject. A wasted opportunity for pupils! #ukedchat #frustratedmusicteacher @jamesdhobsonuk SWEEPING! And schools can do something about it... we are. #ukedchat #ukedchat I worked in industry prior to teaching - my pupils get practical employability skills from me @dailydenouement I teach SEBD boys how to be told off, so they don't make matters worse. #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat I like to teach them that an apology and a smile usually 20:52 will get them what they want faster and with less anxiety. @Redsra Quite so...in a sense, old fahioned Mercator projection is 20:52 classic example of political view of world...unspoken #ukedchat #ukedchat Qualifications are essential for current context. Fail that & we're failing the kids. But as a profession: is that it? #worried @dailydenouement treat them like humans, with respect. A lot don't get it at home/outside school, sadly #ukedchat RT @Educationchat: @oldandrewuk @LeeDonaghy Couldn't disagree more. It's vital teachers help children get on with each other any way they can. #ukedchat @LeeDonaghy That's what happens to MANY children of ANY class who don't pass exams. #ukedchat environmental responsibility is important, they need to take care of the world in years to come #ukedchat #ukedchat For me it's about being a role model. Try to be a learner, hard worker, consistent & positive. And have fun! @mikeatedji Really? Don't we teach that certain views are wrong? #ukedchat RT @TeachToAll: learning to learn! teaching children the skills for life-long learning! #ukedchat RT @andywhiteway: @MrAColley: #ukedchat For me it's bout being a role model. Be a learner, hard worker, consistent & positive. And have fun! like this a lot
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20:53 @Sian_Rowland for sure... it's a 'value' thing I think. #ukedchat @JamiePortman #ukedchat Only if you're just in it for the . 20:53 Haven't met many who are though. #ukedchat poll for Thursday 8th December 2011, hosted by 20:53 @ikeontoast Creativity is so important. It should be invested in NOT cut out of 20:53 our school curriculums #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat we HAVE to do the qualification thing. But we should do the "inspire to carry on learning and caring" 20:53 thing too A vital part of preparing kids for the future is to help them find out 20:53 what it is they love, and then how to follow that passion. #ukedchat @MrAColley: #ukedchat For me it's bout being a role model. Be a learner, hard worker, consistent & positive. And have fun! 20:53 like this a lot @ufasarah you just said you had been looking at 'activ to get yp 20:53 looking at strengths' #ukedchat just wondered if u could share any? RT @TeachToAll: learning to learn! teaching children the skills for 20:53 life-long learning! #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @Educationchat @LeeDonaghy #ukedchat As an argument that 20:53 implies that schools are for teaching them how to be at school. Children are being prepared for a world we can't possible know 1015 years hence, but also to function as learners today. #ukedchat RT @mikeatedji: @Redsra Quite so...in a sense, old fahioned Mercator projection is classic example of political view of world...unspoken #ukedchat @mikeatedji #ukedchat I hear your views & your opinion on this. You have more life experience than your pupils. What's their views based on? RT @JamiePortman: #ukedchat Qualifications are essential for current context. Fail that & we're failing the kids. But as a profession: is that it? #worried @mikeatedji @Redsra I like that example #ukedchat #ukedchat it's alright to fail, but it's also alright to succeed. No matter what your gender, race or religion
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RT @Maireths: As well as preparing them for the future we should 20:54 also teach/ help them to enjoy the present #ukedchat < well said @dailydenouement I try to encourage resilience and self belief 20:54 positive thinking! Without these nothing is possible. #ukedchat RT @Kat_Fletch: @dailydenouement I'm setting up a project with 8 schools in Europe to help teach students about 'global citizenship' 20:54 #ukedchat @dailydenouement I'm setting up a project with 8 schools in 20:54 Europe to help teach students about 'global citizenship' #ukedchat RT @Stephen_Logan: we are preparing students for their future employability in a very competitive world. Attitude, work ethic and 20:54 flexibility #ukedchat RT @KempsterD: 1st thing tomorrow ask ur class what they think learning is? Then, heads, have learning discussions every week at 20:54 staff meetings. #ukedchat RT @aangeli: Creativity is so important. It should be invested in 20:54 NOT cut out of our school curriculums #ukedchat 1st thing tomorrow ask ur class what they think learning is? Then, heads, have learning discussions every week at staff meetings. 20:54 #ukedchat @aangeli always try creative approaches to exploring literature 20:54 #ukedchat RT @JenniH68: Confident, creative, challenged and compassionate 20:54 ...that's what I want my pupils to be > great summary @LeeDonaghy @educationchat Although I have met ppl with 20:54 learning riffs who can't read but are great team players #ukedchat Page 43 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #ukedchat poll for Thursday 8th December 2011, hosted by 20:54 @ikeontoast http://t.co/tLGyqyFk @LearningSpy #ukedchat Facilitate the learning so that they can 20:54 form their own opinions? RT @C_Hendrick: A vital part of preparing kids for the future is to help them find out what it is they love, and then how to follow that 20:54 passion. #ukedchat RT @dukkhaboy: @dailydenouement #ukedchat we HAVE to do the qualification thing. But we should do the "inspire to carry on 20:54 learning and caring" thing too @stephen_logan I'm with you! Enterprise skills are at the heart of 20:55 everything we need our young people to be in their lives #ukedchat 20:55 @passionateaboot @redsra Teaching is a political act #ukedchat @dukkhaboy @dailydenouement They can run alongside, in 20:55 parallel and entwined (if you can have such a thing!) #ukedchat 20:55 @LearningSpy #ukedchat It's been a long night......... @Sian_Rowland @consultanthead @trees2066 @JanieT56 Agreed re subversion of NC. However many don't and adhere to it word for 20:55 word. #ukedchat RT @foxfogman: #ukedchat we should be preparing the children to 20:55 be the best that they can be, as a person and educationally. @Sian_Rowland @ConsultantHead @JamiePortman Agreed - need confidence, encouragement and freedom to be brave and do it! 20:55 #ukedchat 20:55 and you can't measure that with a SAT #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @LeeDonaghy Good schools should be about far 20:55 more than teaching children to read and write. #ukedchat #ukedchat don't we need them to question the world? Rather than 20:55 just accept this is how it is, question y and how it could b better? RT @C_Hendrick: A vital part of preparing kids for the future is to help them find out what it is they love, and then how to follow that 20:55 passion. #ukedchat @@C_Hendrick I agree. It making them the best version of themselves whatever that is. Identify their talents! #ukedchat @Redsra @learningspy #ukedchat You choose to be political in your classroom? #ukedchat we should be preparing the children to be the best that they can be, as a person and educationally. @MissionExplore Yes you're right. Wonder how we can inspire all teachers to be more confident in this #ukedchat @dailydenouement #ukedchat I have v limited 'outside world' experience and have great respect for those who do. Another dimension. Page 44 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @Stephen_Logan: couldn't not mention enterprise education, developing a skill set for life - creativity, innovation, team work and 20:55 flexibilityetc #ukedchat If my chldrn end yr 2/1 loving learning,use their intitiative,respect other's values & achieve *their* potential,I've done my job 20:55 #ukedchat @passionateaboot People's values mutate as they 20:55 learn/experience...pupils and adults alike #ukedchat couldn't not mention enterprise education, developing a skill set for life - creativity, innovation, team work and flexibilityetc #ukedchat @JamiePortman @sian_rowland @trees2066 @janiet56 Senior leaders should encourage confidence to have a go. A question of balance #ukedchat RT @KempsterD: 1st thing tomorrow ask ur class what they think learning is? Then, heads, have learning discussions every week at staff meetings. #ukedchat @mikeatedji semantics. Same thing #ukedchat @trees2066 @ConsultantHead @JamiePortman How do we promote that confidence though? #ukedchat @SheliBB: and you can't measure that with a SAT #ukedchat 2B Keep having those learning discussions and it will transform your class/school. Promise #ukedchat RT @ikeontoast: RT @ukedchat: #ukedchat poll for Thursday 8th December 2011, hosted by @ikeontoast http://t.co/kH5e7hEL #ukedchat #ukedchat I tell them that the lessons are there to prep them for the day I'm not there. the most useful thing a SMT can do is sit down, look at their curriculum offer & compare to what pupils will need 4 future #ukedchat
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@ufasarah @Maireths We always talk about the future but this IS 20:56 children's 'present'. Help them learn in the present #ukedchat @LearningSpy #ukedchat You don't reaslly indoctrinate, I bet...you 20:56 coax, persuade, argue... #ukedchat @aangeli agreed - having much more fun teaching games programming incl. art & design than office ICT skills. More 20:56 valuable too. 20:56 @Mad_teach you mean dump Pangloss? #ukedchat RT @mrpeel: @aangeli always try creative approaches to exploring 20:56 literature #ukedchat @Educationchat @LeeDonaghy #ukedchat Yes. But the bare 20:56 minimum has to include that. RT @Stephen_Logan: we are preparing students for their future employability in a very competitive world. Attitude, work ethic and 20:56 flexibility #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @dmchugh675 @dailydenouement I feel strongly that resilience should be at the heart of everything we teach #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: #ukedchat poll for Thursday 8th December 2011, hosted by @ikeontoast http://t.co/tLGyqyFk #ukedchat all children should strive for something and be helped to achieve that something. RT @enterprisegran: @stephen_logan I'm with you! Enterprise skills are at the heart of everything we need our young people to be in their lives #ukedchat Last 5 minutes of #ukedchat this week. Any final thoughts? @neil_povey @teachtoall I have always found that the more conversations had with them the better #ukedchat @C_Hendrick True, at school I wanted to be a primary teacher, never though it was an option, took me 12yrs to finally start #ukedchat @susanbanister room for it in IBDP Eng lit #ukedchat
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20:57 @Redsra @learningspy #ukedchat What if you choose not to? Started lots of #ukedchat tweets, but always going to be either 20:57 vacuous or gloomy. It's not been a good couple of days :-/ @dailydenouement Treat all pupils like humans - not simply trainees. Teach them to be the ones to ask the questions #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Probably there4 where we differ; I think the Logic bit does need to taught/demonstrated/practised 2 apply 2 knowledge #ukedchat @LearningSpy disagree. Ed. System is political construct. Teaching is a human act #ukedchat #ukedchat Last 5mins then - if you could add one 'lesson' or 'topic' or 'strand' to future-proof our current curriculum, what would it be? #ukedchat to be successful -innovative, communication skills, a balanced person, independent thinkers,have a goal, work towards it, positive
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RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat Anyone mentioned Piaget yet? 20:57 "Intelligence is what you use when you don't know what to do". @MusicEdLife Here's the MYTH link: http://t.co/xvi5BodB 20:57 #ukedchat 20:57 I want to help kids build the confidence to take risks. #ukedchat 20:57 @mikeatedji #ukedchat So does experience form values? @mrpeel @aangeli Creativity is the best way to learn but falls down 20:57 with our system of assessment. #ukedchat Self belief & to not be afraid of learning that feels messy and challenging. Challenges in life aren't in ready meal packages 20:58 #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @foxfogman: @ukedchat #ukedchat children need to be given an Education Secretary who is interested in what we should be preparing them for. @mikeatedji You're confusing force with indoctrination - not the same #ukedchat @Sian_Rowland the problem is that people think that 'woolly' is bad... But wool is great and keeps us warm. We need more woolly. #ukedchat RT @neil_povey: @dailydenouement Treat all pupils like humans not simply trainees. Teach them to be the ones to ask the questions #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: All the links from #ukedchat this evening have been collated at http://t.co/hYl40rvA & the archive will appear here later ...but, above all, READ to your class, and share how much you love doing it.If you do nothing else... #ukedchat @C_Hendrick I agree. It making them the best version of themselves whatever that is. Identify their talents! #ukedchat Let them identify.. @ConsultantHead @JamiePortman @trees2066 @janiet56 The lead needs to come from inspirational and brave head teachers/ SLT #ukedchat @ukedchat #ukedchat children need to be given an Education Secretary who is interested in what we should be preparing them for. @passionateaboot What do you reckon on that? #ukedchat the #asechat for 5/12 will be on using interactive resources in science. http://t.co/7tdfh6nA Hope you can join us #pgce #ukedchat #ukedchat teach children to be the best they can @passionateaboot Is that possible? Isn't that a choice not to teach? #ukedchat
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20:58 @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat We learn from concrete to abstract. @LearningSpy No way - You don't honestly try to force (indoctrinate) ppl to share your values! You're exaggerating for 20:58 effect! #ukedchat #ukedchat happiness. Happy often => being in control => having choices => recognising opportunities and being prepared & 20:58 equipped for them what skills, competencies, attributes do u think learners will need 20:58 to become successful, look for that in yr curriculums #ukedchat RT @AntHeald: Started lots of #ukedchat tweets, but always going to be either vacuous or gloomy. It's not been a good couple of days 20:58 :-/ All the links from #ukedchat this evening have been collated at 20:58 http://t.co/hYl40rvA & the archive will appear here later
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @davidhunter Being human is a political act politics = art of being 20:58 human #ukedchat @SheliBB #ukedchat you will have done more than your job,....bet 20:59 you achieve it as well RT @foxfogman: @ukedchat #ukedchat children need to be given an Education Secretary who is interested in what we should be 20:59 preparing them for. RT @foxfogman: @ukedchat #ukedchat children need to be given an Education Secretary who is interested in what we should be 20:59 preparing them for. @mattpearson #ukedchat or schools teach manners citizenship finances healthy eating fitness etc then send home to learn 20:59 physics,ggy eng etc RT @MissionExplore: @Sian_Rowland the problem is that people think that 'woolly' is bad... But wool is great and keeps us warm. 20:59 We need more woolly. #ukedchat RT @reallara: Self belief & to not be afraid of learning that feels messy and challenging. Challenges in life aren't in ready meal 20:59 packages #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: It's 9pm HUGE thanks to Clare @dailydenouement for stepping up to host this #ukedchat session tonight. See you next 20:59 week :-) 20:59 @LearningSpy #ukedchat Choose not to use political language? 20:59 @MissionExplore Genius! #ukedchat RT @BaldWorm: .but, above all, READ to your class, and share how much you love doing it.If you do nothing else. #ukedchat <yeah 20:59 that'll do! It's 9pm HUGE thanks to Clare @dailydenouement for stepping up to host this #ukedchat session tonight. See you next week :-) #ukedchat we can try to prepare students for the unknown, but why not teach them how to be adaptable, flexible, and creative instead? RT @MrAColley: @dailydenouement Great question! Resilience? How to fail well? Self reliance? #ukedchat @aiddy @C_Hendrick @susanbanister a creative mind is a profitable one. UK thrives from it's creatives yet current Gov cutting Arts #ukedchat It's great to hear such fantastic ideas. Now I know Gove is so so wrong. Don't give up on your pupils. Ed secs come and go. #ukedchat @passionateaboot in 140? #ukedchat
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21:00 @dailydenouement definitely teach programming. #ukedchat @ConsultantHead Agrred, wise words indeed. Nice to chat with 21:00 you! #ukedchat @mikeatedji Isn't it? Maybe you just don't want to call it that 21:00 #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @LearningSpy fair dos you've hot me there you wily semantic whizz 21:00 you #ukedchat Right folks, cheers for tonight's #ukedchat - you've inspired me as 21:00 always. @mikeatedji #ukedchat Do you have values when you are born or 21:00 do you develop them? @dailydenouement Great question! Resilience? How to fail well? 21:00 Self reliance? #ukedchat RT @Rthy: #ukedchat it's alright to fail, but it's also alright to 21:00 succeed. No matter what your gender, race or religion @passionateaboot I'm not talking about parliamentary politics here 21:00 - all language is political #ukedchat @LearningSpy Are you not trying to invite each individu to justify, rigorously, their own belief system? That's not indoctrntn 21:00 #ukedchat I want my teenage sons to be happy and successful on their terms 21:00 #ukedchat 21:00 RT @ikeontoast: #ukedchat teach children to be the best they can @Sian_Rowland @jamieportman @trees2066 @janiet56 Totally. 21:00 And that's the head's purpose. #ukedchat RT @PhilWheeler1: @ben_solly all teachers should be made to view #ukedchat just once to see real value. Maybe a national inset 21:00 and a 1 off daytime ukedchat Thanks to everyone for making our first #ukedchat so great! We're 21:01 a new site investigating education in the UK.Take a look. #ukedchat Glad to see #ukedchat back to it's very best tonight! Long may it 21:01 continue! Encouraging staff to try new ideas in the classroom @longfieldmelton - plasma screen for the staffroom 21:01 http://t.co/O2thexW7 #ukedchat @passionateaboot Developed!! No one is born racist/saintly/ in my 21:01 humble view...Interested to know what you think tho #ukedchat @TeachToAll #ukedchat Research told you that? Sounds like something from a Ken Robinson video. Try reading Left Back by 21:01 Diane Ravitch. @passionateaboot I going to stop after this but politics is the art of 21:01 being human #ukedchat 21:01 @LearningSpy #ukedchat How? 21:01 @susanbanister #ukedchat absolutely agreed RT @KempsterD: It's great to hear such fantastic ideas. Now I know Gove is so so wrong. Don't give up on your pupils. Ed secs come and 21:01 go. #ukedchat 21:01 #ukedchat nice one everyone 21:01 @KempsterD we might get Balls back #ukedchat If you carry on chatting, use the #ukedchat hashtag & the archive 21:01 will start to be collated at around quarter past nine
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @passionateaboot Why shouldn't we be political in classroom 2 a point? Is very hard 2 leave values at door, & shouldn't we model? #ukedchat @BaldWorm oh yes, let them enjoy books and not feel that books are only to 'learn' from/study. Then they really will learn indep #ukedchat @Redsra @learningspy #ukedchat What makes it political? @dailydenouement thanks - a good one tonight, hope its restored faith in #ukedchat for some :) The links collected in #ukedchat tonight are at http://t.co/hYl40rvA & vote for next week at http://t.co/8pENBhLT @DexNott @mattpearson interesting thoughts, would be a good experiment #ukedchat Treat childhood as a distinct period of life. (read that in the article about Finland) #ukedchat #ukedchat thanks all - gr8t discussion tonight @davidhunter OK - but I do think it's a point worth making - life is about making political choices #ukedchat @ukedchat Thank you for another excellent #ukedchat @mrpeel @KempsterD Balls! #ukedchat a good #ukedchat tonight. Caught the end of a good topic that I am very passionate about. Just experienced my first #ukedchat discussion. Will be returning... :D @dailydenouement Wow, Thank you for a great #ukedchat. My head is spinning! @mrpeel #ukedchat Go for it
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21:02 @aangeli @aiddy @C_Hendrick Exactly short sighted! #ukedchat RT @mikeatedji: @passionateaboot Developed!! No one is born racist/saintly/ in my humble view...Interested to know what you 21:02 think tho #ukedchat RT @aangeli: @aiddy @C_Hendrick @susanbanister a creative mind is a profitable one. UK thrives from it's creatives yet current 21:02 Gov cutting Arts #ukedchat Hear hear! And thanks. RT @heartofsol: Glad to see #ukedchat back 21:02 to it's very best tonight! Long may it continue! 21:02 @ukedchat oops. Sorry! Am drunk! ;) 21:02 @dailydenouement Cheers Clair - good job tonight #ukedchat #ukedchat dare I say that drama, which we've just acknowledged 21:02 can help, is being pushed out by the NC? @KempsterD I think I counted 16 ed secs in my teaching career so 21:02 far when I last looked. #ukedchat RT @Maireths: @BaldWorm oh yes, let them enjoy books and not feel that books are only to 'learn' from/study. Then they really will 21:02 learn indep #ukedchat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? @ConsultantHead @sian_rowland @trees2066 @janiet56 Agreed re: balance & encoragement from SLT. Give a measured green light #ukedchat @mattpearson oh wow does twitter sometimes allow intellectual rigour too ... Can't wait! #ukedchat RT @aangeli: @aiddy @C_Hendrick @susanbanister a creative mind is a profitable one. UK thrives from it's creatives yet current Gov cutting Arts #ukedchat RT @neil_povey: Am I hopelessly idealistic in thinking that we should be preparing pupils to be happy, good people, whatever their strengths? #ukedchat RT @LearningSpy: @dailydenouement Cheers Clair - good job tonight #ukedchat >>> I'll second that! Thanks to all those who chatted with me during #ukedchat tonight. Great to see ukedchat back on top form. @CassieFielding its mad to begin with but you kind of get used to not being able to read everything! #ukedchat If we are not preparing students for their future then whats the point. Thats why I love the job. #ukedchat @dailydenouement Great #ukedchat tonight. well hosted. Thanks to you. @Sian_Rowland And you. Have a nice evening. I'm off for a glass of red! #ukedchat @aangeli @aiddy @C_Hendrick @susanbanister a) heard this the other day 'ask year 1 ch who are artists evry1 puts hands up... #ukedchat @reallara agreed #ukedchat @dailydenouement thanks for hosting tonight. Hats off to you to for keeping up with it all. #ukedchat
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We need to stop squishing the creativity out of our children, but 21:03 our education system makes that so hard to do #ukedchat I just wish Mr Gove read #ukedchat - wonders if @toryeducation 21:03 could get him involved ;) #ukedchat Should the gvt be making curriculum choices about pupils future and skills they'll need then, rather than results now? @enterprisegran: @stephen_logan Enterprise skills are at the heart of everything we need our young people to be #ukedchat here here! 24% of adults struggle to count to 1000. http://t.co/2v3AFOuC #ukedchat RT @PivotalEllie: 24% of adults struggle to count to 1000. http://t.co/2v3AFOuC #ukedchat RT @bellaale: RT @dailydenouement: wish Mr Gove read #ukedchat - wonder if @toryeducation cd get him involved ;) > email #roxanne the link! ;) #nc11 @dailydenouement Thank you very much #ukedchat @ConsultantHead @dailydenouement that's what I try to achieve #ukedchat (try) Page 51 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? #UKEdChat Teach resilience, respect, responsibility, reflection, 21:04 resourcefulness, reasoning. RT @ICTmagic: Children are being prepared for a world we can't possible know 10-15 years hence, but also to function as learners 21:04 today. #ukedchat RT @PhilWheeler1: @ben_solly all teachers should be made to view #ukedchat just once to see real value. Maybe a national inset 21:04 and a 1 off daytime ukedchat RT @dailydenouement: I just wish Mr Gove read #ukedchat 21:04 wonders if @toryeducation could get him involved ;) 21:04 thanks to all, now back to the dishwasher #ukedchat RT @dailydenouement: wish Mr Gove read #ukedchat - wonder if @toryeducation cd get him involved ;) > email #roxanne the link! ;) 21:04 #nc11 RT @PhilipEdmundson: @dailydenouement Great #ukedchat 21:04 tonight. well hosted. Thanks to you. #ukedchat 21:04 @ICTwitz Thanks for a great #ukedchat - very interesting @LearningSpy If u argue with someone cos u don't agree, that's not indoctrination in my view...Don't you agree at least with that? 21:04 #ukedchat 21:04 @mrpeel I wish that was the case across the curriculum. #ukedchat RT @SheliBB: We need to stop squishing the creativity out of our children, but our education system makes that so hard to do 21:04 #ukedchat RT @Stephen_Logan: If we are not preparing students for their 21:04 future then whats the point. Thats why I love the job. #ukedchat RT @TeachToAll: learning to learn! teaching children the skills for 21:04 life-long learning! #ukedchat RT @areyoureadyteam: @enterprisegran: @stephen_logan Enterprise skills are at the heart of everything we need our young 21:04 people to be #ukedchat -here here! @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat Is it ok to influence pupils with your political values? How do you allow them to form their own? #UkEdChat Make all Ed Doncaster schools Academies and sack the #SMT #ASAP after Unions finished #GotYer RT @ConsultantHead @KempsterD I think I counted 16 ed secs in my teaching career so far when I last looked. #ukedchat> bout that 4 me 2! @nightzookeeper @aangeli @C_Hendrick @susanbanister #ukedchat :-) Sir Ken quote? http://t.co/oaCgNOSL or http://t.co/P5eNaTGj maybe
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? I'm delivering training to our ITT students tomorrow - I'm recommending #ukedchat as a pretty marvellous form of networking & CPD. Teaching & Learning Toolbox - http://t.co/2FfbYofl a great teaching resource produced by ASTs in Dudley #ukedchat RT @mattpearson: one thing seems rather clear, teaching children 'facts' in the age of the internet, is not the best use of anyone's time #ukedchat RT @mattpearson: 'learning to learn' may not be enough..it may have to be 'learning to learn to learn' #ukedchat Still think we should teach children to kick Jeremy Clarkson in crown jewels, once that's done they can concentrate on 21st cent #ukedchat RT @PhilipEdmundson: @dailydenouement Great #ukedchat tonight. well hosted. Thanks to you.
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21:06 @KempsterD ...and how many can you remember? #ukedchat @dailydenouement I would take stuff out. Go for more project 21:06 based learning, real situations, less learning from books. #ukedchat RT @ConsultantHead: @JamiePortman @trees2066 I think teachers have always subverted the 'national' curriculum and made 21:06 it relevant. #ukedchat @PivotalEllie On the other hand, how often do you need to do 21:07 that? Long game of hide and seek? #ukedchat #notthepoint Teachers, give yourself the time to read this http://t.co/4m1E8uSK 21:07 via @acandlelighter #ukedchat #asechat #sciteachjc I prefer to think of 'enterprise skills' rather than 'being 21:07 entrepreneurial'. These are skills for life and work. #ukedchat @mikeatedji #ukedchat And that's a chat for another night. Thanks for such an interesting discussion and sharing your views and 21:07 thoughts. 21:07 @mattpearson in front of his family I hope #ukedchat RT @SheliBB: If my chldrn end yr 2/1 loving learning,use their intitiative,respect other's values & achieve *their* potential,I've 21:08 done my job #ukedchat RT @dailydenouement I'm delivering training 2 our ITT stdnts tomorrow -I'm recommending #ukedchat >tut tut surely facilitating 21:08 learning :-) In case you missed it, What teachers should be preparing our 21:08 children for http://t.co/SkbovH1p #ukedchat #edchat @foxfogman @reallara @ukedchat have we ever had one that fits 21:08 that description? @reallara Yes resilience how to cope with life's disappointments. 21:08 Just one of Good2Go's lessons. #UKEdChat
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? RT @ICTmagic: Children are being prepared for a world we can't possible know 10-15 years hence, but also to function as learners today. #ukedchat @Mackers1969 @foxfogman @ukedchat That's a rhetorical question, right? Missed #ukedchat :-( will have to catch up with the summary. Looks like it was a good one! RT @MrAColley: #ukedchat I tell them that the lessons are there to prep them for the day I'm not there. @passionateaboot @mattbuxton10 surely you use your experiences as examples for your pupils? Then let them make an informed choice? #ukedchat
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Thanks @dailydenouement and everyone for a great #ukedchat 21:09 tonight. Enjoyed it. Some great one-liners and food for thought RT @ConsultantHead @KempsterD ...and how many can you 21:10 remember? #ukedchat Baker cos of Baker days.. Errr now stuck :-) RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat What about personal finance? I 21:10 could've done with 'Budgeting Basics' before I went off to uni! Last week joined #ukedchat for first time - wasn't impressed. This 21:10 week was so different. Will be logging on next week. RT @mattpearson: Still think we should teach children to kick Jeremy Clarkson in crown jewels, once that's done they can 21:10 concentrate on 21st cent #ukedchat @foxfogman @ukedchat #ukedchat Sarah Teather needs to get Gove's job. Fingers crossed he has some dodgy old mate as an 21:10 advisor @bellaale @dailydenouement @toryeducation That would be 21:10 fantastic! #ukedchat RT @JamiePortman: RT @trees2066 Do we have to wait for the Govt. to change the curriculum before teachers make learning 21:10 relevant? #ukedchat >> Great question! 21:10 @reallara @foxfogman @ukedchat partly ;) Fun role playing ideas with social media. Great teaching strategy. 21:11 http://t.co/qEHwcl4q #ukedchat #cpchat RT @dannynic: the #asechat for 5/12 will be on using interactive resources in science. http://t.co/7tdfh6nA Hope you can join us 21:11 #pgce #ukedchat @heartofsol @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat Why wouldn't you let them have their own experiences? Who imposes their experiences 21:11 on others? RT @mattpearson: Still think we should teach children to kick Jeremy Clarkson in crown jewels, once that's done they can 21:11 concentrate on 21st cent #ukedchat 21:12 @Jon_Torbitt you should be on #ukedchat instead!! @WideEyedNQT @mattbuxton10 #ukedchat Need to? Who needs 21:12 to? Page 54 of 55
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What is it exactly that educators are supposed to be preparing pupils for? 21:13 @aangeli I don't think blastfollow works anymore! @KempsterD I have a soft spot for Estelle Morriss and David 21:13 Blunkett #ukedchat hello #ukedchat...pls put that link up that lets you follow everyone who used the # in tonights ukedchat. I've forgotten what it's called 21:13 :( New posts http://t.co/6uzDPnKl Abi's busy week, day on strike & 21:13 pirate jokes, Jack's smelly jokes for silly kids, pls visit :) #ukedchat #ukedchat perhaps children are capable of telling us what we should be preparing them for. I.e. what they want to do and ate 21:13 interested in? @neil_povey Yeah. Difficult to squeeze it into 140 characters. 21:14 Would add how to recognise when to learn too. #ukedchat @NBedsSchTrust I missed #ukedchat unfortunately - late in from #cambridge after a great session to end the term with 21:14 @SUPER_Network
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