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24-October-2006 00:40
A request for activism from Noreen Gosch. If you are not familiar with the case of Noreen Go
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Gosch, please visit http://www.johnnygosch.com/. This case also ties into the infamous Frank ties into child pornography and child trafficking rings which connect to the White House, as control and corruption across many levels of US government. This is also a case that could
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secrets if it could actually be brought to public awareness. An example letter I wrote follows this quote:
Friends of The Johnny Gosch Foundation:
There is something we can all do to help plead the cause of protecting innocen
Please send letters to President Bush, and e-mails to Vice President Cheney and your State S
and Governors at the following addresses, asking that jacobstales and other pedophilia websit
Tell them that you do not understand why a website with pictures of a kidnapped child (John you can to write as we join together to try to make a difference!! (Note: When you
investigated and continues to be allowed to promote pedophilia. Please spread the word and
your name and address and tell them you look forward to their respons Send Letters To: President George W. Bush The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500
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To E-mail Vice President Richard Cheney: vice_president@whitehouse.g To E-mail your Senator: http://www.senate.gov/senators/index.cfm To E-mail Your Representative: http://www.house.gov/writerep To E-Mail Your Governor: Alabama, Governor Bob Riley: http://www.governor.state.al.us/contact American Samoa, Governor Togiola Tulafono: governorsoffice@asg
Alaska, Governor Frank H. Murkowski: http://www.gov.state.ak.us/govma
Arizona, Governor Janet Napolitano: http://azgovernor.gov/Contact.as
Arkansas, Governor Mike Huckabee: http://www.accessarkansas.org/governor/for Colorado, Governor Bill Owens: governorowens@state.co.us Connecticut, Governor M. Jodi Rell: Governor.Rell@po.state.ct.us Florida, Governor Jeb Bush: jeb.bush@myflorida.com
California, Governor Arnold A. Schwarzenegger: http://www.govmail.ca.g
Delaware, Governor Ruth Ann Minner: http://www.state.de.us/governor/comm
Georgia, Governor Sonny Perdue: http://gov.state.ga.us/contact_dom.sh
Hawaii, Governor Linda Lingle: http://www.hawaii.gov/gov/contact/em
Idaho, Governor James E. Risch: http://gov.idaho.gov/ourgov/contact.h
Illinois, Governor Rod R. Blagojevich: http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegov Iowa, Governor Thomas J. Vilsack: http://www.governor.state.ia.us/comment
Indiana, Governor Mitch Daniels: http://www.state.in.us/gov/contact/index
Kansas, Governor Kathleen Sebelius: http://www.governor.ks.gov/comments/co
Kentucky, Governor Ernie Fletcher: http://governor.ky.gov/contact.htm
Louisiana, Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco: http://www.managekeelson.com/websi
Maine, Governor John E. Baldacci: governor@maine.gov governor@maine
Maryland, Governor Robert Leroy Ehrlich Jr.: http://www.gov.state.md.us/ Michigan, Governor Jennifer Granholm: http://www.michigan.gov/gov/0,1607,7 Minnesota, Governor Tim Pawlenty: tim.pawlenty@state.mn.us
Massachusetts, Governor Mitt Romney: http://www.mass.gov/Agovwebmail/WebMa
Mississippi, Governor Haley Reeves Barbour: http://www.governorbarbour.com
Missouri, Governor Matt Blunt: http://www.gov.mo.gov/constituentform.
Montana, Governor Brian Schweitzer: http://governor.mt.gov/contact/commen Nevada, Governor Kenny Guinn: http://gov.state.nv.us/mailgov.htm New Jersey, Governor Jon Corzine: http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/governor New Mexico, Governor Bill Richardson: http://www.governor.state.nm.us/email.p
Nebraska, Governor Dave Heineman: http://www.gov.state.ne.us/mail/govm
New Hampshire Governor John Lynch: http://www.egov.nh.gov/governor/goveforms
New York, Governor George E. Pataki: http://161.11.121.121/govema
North Carolina, Governor Michael F. Easley: http://www.governor.state.nc.us/em
North Dakota, Governor John Hoeven: governor@nd.gov governor@nd.
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Rhode Island, Governor Don Carcieri: http://www.governor.ri.gov/contac
South Carolina, Governor Mark Sanford: http://www.scgovernor.com/Contact.asp?si Tennessee, Governor Phil Bredesen: phil.bredesen@state.tn.us
South Dakota, Governor Mike Rounds: http://www.state.sd.us/governo
Texas, Governor Rick Perry: http://www.governor.state.tx.us/contact
Utah, Governor Jon Huntsman Jr.: http://governor.utah.gov/goca/form_gover Virginia, Governor Tim Kaine: http://www.governor.virginia.gov/AboutT
Vermont, Governor James H. Douglas: http://www.vermont.gov/governor/con
Washington, Governor Christine Gregoire: http://www.governor.wa.gov/contact/ Wisconsin, Governor Jim Doyle: http://www.wisgov.state.wi.us/section.a
West Virginia, Governor Joe Manchin III: http://www.wvgov.org/contact.
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Wyoming, Governor Dave Freudenthal: governor@state.wy.us
And here is a template letter that I drafted. Please speak out... even if it feels like asking the f mysterious disappearances at the chicken coop....
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Dear (local representative), I appreciate your accessibility for communication on the internet.
I would like to bring to your attention a case that has recently resurfaced in the national m
Noreen Gosch and her son Johnny Gosch, who was kidnapped while on his paper route in 19
photographs of Johnny Gosch (along with some other boys), bound and tied on a bed, appa
kidnappers, were left anonymously at Noreen Gosch's front door. Because of this developmen discuss the details of her case.
confirmation that her son was indeed kidnapped and not just a "runaway", Noreen has been a
A recent developement in the case, was the discovery that IDENTICAL photographs to the o had already been posted for quite some time on a website called www.jacobstales.com
description, is apparently innocuous on its front page, but hides a large archive of semi/po
underage boys, including some in bondage. Included among these photographs was the phot
on the bed. It is clear that there is organized trafficking in images of abused children going
Gosch in her most recent media appearances, has announced the fact that both the police and
investigate the jacobstiles.com site, and will not pursue an investigation to determine the so
I honestly do not understand why a website with pictures of a kidnapped child (Johnny G investigated and continues to be allowed to promote pedophilia.
The public is becoming increasingly aware of these issues, and a widescale discussion has be
internet forums. Issues such as these are causing many Americans to become cynical regardi
power actually taking any effective action on this organized pedophilia
I would very much like to hear what your stance on this issue is, and what Californians ca abroad.
pedophilia on the internet and begin to address the widespread issue of the trafficking of chi
Noreen Gosch's webpage can be viewed at, it includes pictures from the jacobstales.com site www.johnnygosch.com Thank you very much for your time and consideration. (your name)
Thanks for reading Tim An email from Noreen Gosch, 10/21
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from: Noreen Gosch JGoschFoundation@aol.com
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Greetings ...It is heartbreaking to think these people are allowed to take our children and tor search and search with little or no help from law enforcement.
David Johnson is the boy in the middle in the photo of the three boys attached to this email. now agreed to come forward and tell her story. Here are the details of David Johnson. I am also asking people to post this with the photo
mother three weeks before the Fla. Detective tried again to discredit the photo. David's moth
perhaps write letters to Fox News/ Greta... and any other media they can to demand that th
tell her story. Why are the media believing that Florida detective is beyond Full name:
David Leonard Johnson born May 2, 1972 at Virginia Mason Hospital, Seattl
Blond hair medium long, blue eyes, long dark eyelashes, healthy thin, long legged had an ide
not going to indicate where, due to needing to use it for identification. Aprox. 5'5"
David was kidnapped 4/1/85 from 20426 Damson Rd., Lynnwood, WA. Terryle Lee Holm (D
supposed to be caring for David during the trip to James Allen Haugen Jr.'s Confirmation o allowed to go to his favorite Cousin's Confirmation. David attended Hilltop Elementary right after we moved to Lynnwood. It was just accross Damson Rd. He attended until 6th grade, prior to going to the local middle school only for a attended Private school.
Savior Lutheran in Tigard, Or. Terryle was instrumental in the situation that caused David t
Here's a letter I wrote up to send to Greta Van Sustern / On The Record / FO
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to: Ontherecord@foxnews.com Dear Greta/On The Record, I appreciate your accessibility for communication on the internet.
I am writing in regards to your recent show on the case of Johnny Gosch. You
invited a detective from Florida, Nelson Zalva, on to your show, who is claimin
photograph delivered to Noreen Gosch was not in fact her son, but instead a convincing at all, and in fact, parts of it seem patently absurd.
photograph predating her case. Unfortunately, I did not find this man's stor
This detective has produced no evidence to verify his statements, insisting th no names and no one else involved in the case has offered any corroborating
his notes from the case were written on index cards which have been lost. He c
Finally, he claimed to have received a phone call from a man claiming to b
individual in the photograph, however no effort was made to validate this man's
his identity has not been established! Based on these very flimsy premises, I
believe any evidence was offered to dispute Noreen Gosch's claim that the bo Show told her that there was a "discrepancy" between two of the photographs, sheet was different in each photo. This statement is almost laughable, as it explained that the photos could have been taken in two different locations,
photographs she received were of her son. Surprisingly, Noreen announced tha
the same bed. This is by no means a "discrepancy" in any sense of the word. I
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that Noreen is not being taken seriously.
The Demoines Register has run a story entitled "Ex-investigator: No proof pho of Gosch A Florida sheriff's office can't prove they predate the 1980s D.M. http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/p 20362/1001
Noreen previously issued a statement that the two boys in one of the photo delivered to her house had been identified, but the parents did not
want to make public statements at that time. Now just in the past few days, th
of one of the boys in the photo have decided to go public with their sto
(view the photo at: http://www.truesoundhealing.com/images/THREEBOYS
I am writing this letter to request you please have Patricia Johnson, the mothe boy in the photograph. Noreen Gosch recently emailed some information from the family of this " David Johnson is the boy in the middle in the photo of the three boys
Johnson, on your show to present her side of the case in regards to the ident
email. We had talked with his mother three weeks before the Fla. Detective tr and tell her story. Full name:
to discredit the photo. David's mother Patricia Johnson has now agreed to com
David Leonard Johnson born May 2, 1972 at Virginia Mason Hospital, Seattl
Blond hair medium long, blue eyes, long dark eyelashes, healthy thin, long legg identification. Aprox. 5'5" at the time.
identifiable birth mark. But not going to indicate where, due to needing to u
David was kidnapped 4/1/85 from 20426 Damson Rd., Lynnwood, WA. Terryle
(David's stepfather) was supposed to be caring for David during the trip to Jam was instrumental in the situation that caused David to be punished and to his favorite Cousin's Confirmation.
Haugen Jr.'s Confirmation on Palm Sunday at Our Savior Lutheran in Tigard, O
David attended Hilltop Elementary right after we moved to Lynnwood. It was j
the street from 20426 Damson Rd. He attended until 6th grade, prior to going t "
middle school only for a short time, after that he attended Private scho
Again I request that On The Record interview Patricia Johnson and continu
investigation into the Johnny Gosch case. The allegations of Nelson Zalva a on this issue. Thank you for your time and consideration.
credible and provide no insight into the case. The public demands that the tru
It is really sickening to see this happening in "real-time", the ongoing cover-up and disinfo ca Tim
been dicking this woman around for two decades now. I hope some progress can be mad
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Speak out!
Cypher
06-November-2006 00:08
I'm very glad to see this worthy subject back under the spotlight, If Noreen (or anyone else) anything we outside of the US can do, they'd be most welcome. Mairi
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06-November-2006 00:35
Hi I have followed this case online for years. This is an area most ppl won't go.

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Something is going on with the bald guy who is linked to this and Bush kissed. Also I heard
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Chris Carota
06-November-2006 20:24
The Gosch story has always been a keystone to my research, unlocking the doors of corr
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government through publicly recorded scandals with a deadly consistency. I first became aw Cover-up", specifically the testimony and confessions of Paul Bonnaci, a kidnapped child who
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story through an interview of Senator John DeCamp by Alex Jones (MP3). John spoke about
and forced prostitution. Bonnaci claimed to have helped Republican King kidnap other child
Johnny Gosch. He claimed that they watched him for weeks before they grabbed him on his p When I watched the documentary "Conspiracy of Silence", it was truly a breaking point for film made at the Bohemian grove gave me nightmares and basically put me in shock.
preconceived ideas of what was possible, morally possible, in this world. The events described
black budget, Project Paperclip, Skull and Bones, SRA, the Gehlen Organization, The Bohemian and exploitation of children (usually male), the systematic use of sexual deviants and serial military and national security state personnel. Considering that the Gosch case had gotten so much attention, and considering that the
Dissociative Identity Disorder. The theme that unified them was ritual abuse, forced prostitutio
tasks, the use of illegal drugs and sex acts for blackmail, complicity and secrecy, and the co
prostitution case had been exposed, and a major republican politicians accused and even sen the US Government.
historic public record that can act as a doorway into the realm of serial killers, Satanists, and N
When the Jeff Gannon Story broke n 2004, a gay prostitute with a mysterious background
administration, I immediately thought that it made complete sense for Johnny Gosch to have e
If one researches mind control, one sees that the victim must be systematically abused and tra
to cause the dissociation necessary for creating the "alter" or alternate personality. In addition
the CIA has used criminal deviants, serial killers and multi-generational incestuous families as a
preparation of a suitable mind control slave. After the victim has been continually disassoci controllers.
programmed for various tasks and remain completely unaware that they are being manipu
So to me, the fact that a gay prostitute was being used in the white house as a press corresp republican prostitution ring, he was then used as a candidate for government mind control,
The truth is most likely that Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch, and that after being kidnapped an
operative, and intentionally placed into his position in the white house for this reason. Recent
DeCamp and Noreen Gosch hint that Jeff Gannon is aware of his past and has attempted t
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The important point however, is that all these scandals are on the public record, and that if s
pieces together, it becomes obvious that the US government has been infiltrated by a crimin that people have no researched this or talked about it more in the mainstream is that, as I
element who has no qualms about using any means necessary to maintain secrecy and contro
information itself is extremely traumatizing to the researcher, and would be even more so t
seems completely at odds with everything we think we know, and so it can be hidde
Anyway, this subject is so important to understanding the second half of the twentieth centu state, and government drug running. The second is on "Mind Control" and deals with MK
three volumes of the Induction series to the subject. The first is "Black Ops", on nazi infiltrati
experiments. The final volume is called "Ritual Sacrifice", which covers Satanic Ritual Abuse (
church, and secret societies such as the Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones and th Definitely some dark stuff, that's why I've been saving it up till now. But with the Gosch story It is certainly rearing its ugly head through the war on terror, and it can help connect the new
its time to start releasing this material and talking about the child abuse, mind control and Naz
For example, I believe that the Nazis were intentionally moved to the US so as to create the co
into capitalist and communist.... or should I say despotism and dictatorsh
The point is, its all connected, and even though its easier to talk about current war on terror,
the federal reserve, or the first and second World War... but between the end of the last grea
there is a vast, dark underbelly of government which must be exposed to the light of day. The
for what we might find? I still ask myself this question all the time since finding out about wh
Gosch, and although the answers may scare me, it's the question that drive Chris For scary answers, listen to the following... Daniel Sheehan - Origins of US intelligence
Cypher
09-November-2006 20:13
Excellent post, Chris - thank you so much for all of your links and lead
I must admit that I haven't watched "Conspiracy of Silence" again - it's one of the first conspir
in the middle of '04, and at that point I wasn't aware of many of the names behind the scene takes things to a whole new level; many thanks for pointing it out.
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the dots here Chris - I'll definitely watch it again this weekend. I was also unaware of the Jeff G
Mairi
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Chris Carota
09-November-2006 22:16
No problem Mairi, feels good to talk about this subject openly and amongst
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Like you, Conspiracy of Silence was one of the first conspiracy films I ever watched (the first E powerful effect on those who watch it... it brings us to a breaking point of
Capitalist Conspiracy). The courageous work of senator Decamp and the film's crew really sh
Cypher
10-November-2006 01:42
"Conspiracy of Silence":
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"The Capitalist Conspiracy" - as recommended by Chris (very 60's voiceover, but well
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shuffle
10-November-2006 23:20
Here are the images of the guy I mentioned [or whose name bypassed me for a moment]. The Gosch - although obviously no older ones of Gosch exist... unless Gannon is he Looks fairly close to me.
Gannon was the stooge who got given 2 years worth of Whitehouse press passes and sta
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What an unsavory riddle.
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thr33tim3
11-November-2006 08:29
I would like to share with you a new site I recently stumbled on, dedicated to compiling all da
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Up Case, the Johnny Gosch case, and information on global child trafficking in ge http://www.franklinfiles.org/
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I uploaded the most recent Noreen Gosch interview with Jeff Rense there, and there is an am downloads, as well as an active discussion forum. Definitely take the time to check out the against Larry King, there is a lot to read.
In the past month I have also been compiling the most interesting and well-written material o
many taboo sub-categories that I have been able to research on the internet, under the bann
Control Research. I have compiled a long list of articles, with many links to other go http://community.livejournal.com/mcawareness/
There is so much to learn, and it is all strange and often outside the boundaries of "believabili read all of it with and open mind and observe the patterns. Peace Tim
thr33tim3
11-November-2006 08:35
Jeff Gannon also went by the name James Guckert, both with initials JG... like Johnny Gosch.
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initial was the same as well, JDG, I think. Also, the editor of the Desmoines Herald newspape Gosch's kidnapping had the last name Gannon.

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Ted Gunderson said he had a credible informant who insisted that Gannon was Gosch.
to the case have also alleged similar inside information. Gannon never submitted to a DNA tes person". What a mystery.. Tim
out of public sight. The issue was never resolved. In an appearance on Dietl & Daniels he o
Coton
13-November-2006 21:44
I have been reading about this case for just a few weeks but it has been so interesting, it's like
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hard to put down. I've read Bonacci's testimony. I was "okay" with the whole story until I read
horrible trauma he went through at Bohemian Grove. No wonder the kid tried to commit su so they can go on with their lives once they've left the system or will they always be program them? Will there always be that "fear" that someone is controlling him in some way? many unanswered questions.
thought they would have left him there to die, but they took him to the hospital. Is there any w
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Chris Carota
14-November-2006 08:30
QUOTE(Coton @ 13-November-2006 11:44) Senior Member
I have been reading about this case for just a few weeks but it has been so interesting, it's
that's hard to put down. I've read Bonacci's testimony. I was "okay" with the whole story un
about the horrible trauma he went through at Bohemian Grove. No wonder the kid tried to co people so they can go on with their lives once they've left the system or will they always be to be so many unanswered questions.
have thought they would have left him there to die, but they took him to the hospital. Is there
to de-program them? Will there always be that "fear" that someone is controlling him in some
I believe there are ways of answering these questions, and the first way to seek answers
themselves and the methodology used against them. By having the courage to read Bonna
through what he'd seen and done, you have taken an important first step on the road to under
read of other victims experiences, you can see a methodology of what was done to them, w
ritual abuse, involvement in crime, and protection from government and religious institution
stories and accompany them through their traumatic experiences, you have to trust that the u else could be possible.
and that can mess with your mind. The experience is traumatic for the researcher, and it mak
I choose to assume that mind control is always intended, it must be applied, imposed on som
submissive, but this goes way beyond that. No one would submit to having their bodies used
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methodology must be applied by those who have no moral qualms or empathy for their pers and long term effects of SRA as described by Paul Bonacci. That is why in a world where mind for reason of national security, abusive deviants become a useful "tool". The same could be necessity of war. It is that very attitude which makes me believe that elements of the national security state
medical field, electroshock therapy was used, but although is can create disassociation, it doe
sponsored terrorism, drug running, and assassination. All are done in the name of national sec
and even created serial killers, pedophiles, and satanists to help achieve the goal of creati
programming. These people were used to perform the "groundwork" necessary for creating a
"mind control slave" which can be completely programmed by manipulating their Alts, or alter
there is nothing more against the law than pedophiles, the only laws which can permit it are t in seeking potential candidates for programming, encouraging criminals to use underage prostitutes as a part of their programing. The earlier this begins, the more talented and For this reason, multigenerational, incestuous families have been used to create candidates 0-5. In an interview with Dave Emory, author Walter Bowart (Operation Mind Control) describes a
Under the right context, nothing is too immoral to try is the security of the state is a risk. So t
onward. It is most effective if performed before the child forms its identity or ego, while in th
baby can be split into two from the moment of birth. The earlier this begins the easier it is t government officials. I believe that's what King was really involve with, compromising high where they diassosiate from their individual values, and can be reprogrammed to follow an
dissociation indefinitely. But the same methods are used in lessor forms to compromise, blac
ensure their loyalty. Forms of ritual abuse are also used in military training, soldiers are lterally
Kay Griggs describes a similar method of sex rituals, homosexuality and violent abuse used to position in the national security and intelligence community.
her husaband as a navy assasins, recruited as a teenager into ivy league fraternities before
And the reason we know about that is because of the courageous testimony and writing of th
victims of SRA, MK-Ultra and Military Training. They have come forward, and you can take w what mind-control and the process of deprogramming.
stories and try and piece them together. Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips, are a valuable sour
Yes, deprogramming is possible, and it involves various forms of therapy and recapulation. For
would recommend renting the classic film "Sybil", a true story based on a famous book written
in 1973 about a woman named Shirley Ardell Mason. Sally Field plays the title character, wh
Disorder", as it was called at the time, came form early childhood abuse. Her ind an invented
people to take over and protect sybol from the memories of her traumatic experiences as a ch
integrate her dissociative identities by speaking with a caring psychotherapist who helps her re
When Sybil can remember, she becomes the person who experienced it, and has been expe herself back together from the broken pieces of her past. As with the case of Cathy Obrien, possible to heal yourself and regain your identity.
along. In this waym as she travels back through the past recapulation her repressed memori
Iv have also researched using psychedlic substances such as LSD, Ibogaine and Psilocybin to e
help abuse victims re-experince past trauma, as with the work of Stanislav Grof. But in today accounts I have heard say the the road to recovery is a long and painful, and often involves dream analysis, and issues of spirituality. Dissociation itself can be seen as a for of
over emphasis on prescription drugs, people don not a;ways have have access to natural med
conscious mind severs its connection to its sense of time, and creates someone else to experie
"spirit, or awareness, or conscious mind comes back to the body and can act as if nothing has way they wish.
time, the created alt can be summoned through continued abuse and programmed to control
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IN this way, the history of mind control and trauma, which is actually near death experiences that the capacity for dissociation was not used on or by our human ancestry. As research
Firstly, the technology of applied abuse would have the same effect on any biological human b
reveal, what the military is after in these programmed human beings, is not just their body, bu
and capabilities of the mind unhindered by rational doubt. When a person is disassociated, t
information in memory becomes infinite, like a computer, they can recall in perfect detail any performers, or accomplish almost anything that they believe they can do. These talents are a part of our collective human ancestry.
perform super-human feats of strength and survival, aim with perfection, sing dance and ac
Whatever the ancient history of mind control and human potential, the modern history of it through the work of scientists such as Dr Mengele, as well as in social experiments such
particularly conspiratorial angle often associated with the Bavaria, through the Illuminati, th
be seen to be used by the global the intelligence agencies established at the end of world war programs like MK-Ultra and Project Monarch.
operations, justified as necessity to fight the dialectical opposition, of tyranny of communism
These operations were originally revealed through the freedom of information act, but the gov such illegal and immoral acts performed on unwitting civilians were a part of the cold enough, this was done by the same group of intelligence agents trained in bavaria by
commando", a waffen SS soldier brought to US intelligence as a part of the Gehlen Organizati
If you have never heard of Project Paperclip, Reinhard Gehlen or Otto Skorzany, I recommend
and the CIA" an excellent documentary that explains how Nazi war criminals and scinetists we
the into the national security act under the pretense of fighting communism. Capitalists unite! men trained under Otto Skornazy and Reinhard Gehlen have gone on to become the
would eventually become the OSS, and then CIA, largely by combining its ties to the wall stree
with public with iran contra, and government drug running. I've wondered if Ollie North has b
he's just some kind of super patriot willing to do whatever it takes to uphold national securi
anther possibility, as is Lee Harvey Oswald. It would seem that creating a "Manchurian c authority. Find More documenatries at The CIA Dossier
assassin/terrorist that can controlled as a political weapon, would be a sought after commodit
The mythology behind all of these threads come together in a an ebook called "Project Supe Story", which I read some years ago while researching mind control. The story claims
the first person, describing how he was turned into a Nazi Uberman and used by the US gov archetypical overview of the methods of mind control. Whoever wrote the story was definitely
The story lacks provability, contains some fantastical and often brutal accounts. It is wel
about this stuff, let alone going through it personally, I imagine that the unconscious fear
controlled might take a long time to go away, but I think by reestablishing ones humanity and
love, victims of mind control can lead a normal life and live without fea
As human beings we are capable of some amazing things, and self-healing is not the le
Chris Carota
Note: I will edit and hyperlink this document ..

Coton
14-November-2006 23:15
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What has happened to Bonacci? From what I have read it appears he is doing time in prison, b
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be dated. What has happened to most of the kids in the "Larry King" system? They are growin
"grown" are they still being used somehow? Have a lot of them turned into felons because o
forced to commit? Are they still afraid to communicate with their families? Have any of them r
their lives? I read that Bonacci couldn't hold down a job due to the trauma, and it surprised m has fears of being found out. How is his being suspect of being "Jeff Gannon" impacted those
was married, but a good surprise. At least he has tried to have some sort of normalcy in his li
of his articles. Honestly, he just seems like a nice, normal guy, with a bit of a past that the m
from. Considering the garbage him and his family has been through, it's difficult not to
thr33tim3
15-November-2006 04:03
QUOTE(Coton @ 13-November-2006 11:44) Newbie
Is there any way "out" for these people so they can go on with their lives once they've left him in some way? There just seems to be so many unanswered
always be entrapped? Is it possible to de-program them? Will there always be that "fear" tha
There is a lot that can be discussed here, and I'm not sure any conclusions have been reac
"recovery" can be reliably attained. However, Healing is always possibl Sue Ford (aka Brice Taylor, author of Thanks For The Memories) spent over $300,000 of at least a decade. The exact amount is in the book somewhere. She attributes a significant
be able to get herself into a "safe" and "non-accessible" environment (she went to Hawaii) a
journaling, but clearly it took her a LONG time even to find a safe place to start. Sue is now a one's brainwave states. http://www.eegspectrum.com/ Read Sue Ford's article http://www.whale.to/b/ford5.html
practitioner, which I have heard very good things about.. it is a form of biofeedback and invo
"Neurofeedback and Other Interventions for Patients with Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, and D
I have spoken with a survivor of (non-MC) traumatic child abuse who became MPD from it. Th therapy was helping them make major progress in their therapy, including a lot of memory
learn about EMDR here. EMDR = Eye Movement Desensitization and Reproc http://www.emdr.com/ Steven Ogilvie has recently been giving seminars on Mind Control deprogramming, I have
know much of the content of his material. I have heard him referred to as a leading expert in
would know. You can read a copy of a recent seminar brochure here:
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http://www.whale.to/b/ford.html
Finally, the Colin A. Ross Institute, again a name I've heard come up a lot as an expert, I am with his work but he has written a lot. http://www.rossinst.com/ "The Colin A. Ross Institute was formed to further the understanding of psychological
providing educational services, research, and clinical treatment of trauma based
Ellen P. Lacter, Ph.D maintains an excellent resource site for SRA and MC survivors, therap
http://truthbeknown2000.tripod.com/Truthbeknown2000/index.html If anyone here has any other info, post it. THanks Tim
This post has been edited by thr33tim3: 15-November-2006 04:04
Coton
15-November-2006 06:10
Thanks Tim. I clicked on the Susan Ford link and there was an entire copy of her "Thanks for t
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currently reading it. Bob Hope is a tradename for comedy and entertainment. Who would have
have a lot of homework to get up to speed on this thing. Thanks to "all" for y
shuffle
16-November-2006 20:48
QUOTE(Coton @ 14-November-2006 21:15)
I've read that Johnny has fears of being found out. How is his being suspect of being "Jeff
fears? I've read a number of his articles. Honestly, he just seems like a nice, normal guy, wit compassion.
media is getting its jollies from. Considering the garbage him and his family has been through
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He's now broke and out of ANY media work. He was only getting a basic wage of $20 K or som outlived usefulness. This is why, if you watch Conspiracy of Silence you'll note that many of
Part of the process in CONTROL situations such as this area is to maintain dependence on han
addictiing narcotica until they developed tolerance and thus they becom Used to drugs for dealing with the stuff they are meant to do
100% dependent on handlers/group to provide narcotics of choice simply
Now JG is trapped. If he does want to go and discuss/reunite with his family he will of course top levels of govt/military/business so disclosing this would make him a
group was that was involved from start to finish. We know from DeCamp's work that the who
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Coton
17-November-2006 02:21
He's already a target isn't he? If that is him, then he's pretty well been "exposed." Those
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considering that he's got connections in the White House, already know whether or not it really website and she too seems to have such compassion for children that are missing and my
seen him a few years ago and she "thinks" it's him, why does she need the DNA test to pro very sweet lady that's had an uphill battle. But the question remains, why put him through
endanger him more? Does she REALLY want the DNA test and what would be her motive? Wou control over him?
why would he be tried for crimes that he was forced in to committing as a child? Does his "han
Coton
19-November-2006 06:46
I was recommended by a couple of people to read Brice Taylor's book. I have read most of it
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learned that this book is not based on any factual evidence, but instead, fictional and that mu
"remembered" may have been given to her by her therapist. Does the actual book have pic
celebrities? It's a good book to learn about the effects of mind control and ties to some of the
familiar to people like Gosch, but how legit is the book really? Anyone can tell stories, but w should be some type of evidence.
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thr33tim3
21-November-2006 02:53
QUOTE(Coton @ 18-November-2006 20:46) Newbie
I was recommended by a couple of people to read Brice Taylor's book. I have read most of it
learned that this book is not based on any factual evidence, but instead, fictional and that mu
"remembered" may have been given to her by her therapist. Does the actual book have pic probably familiar to people like Gosch, but how legit is the book really? Anyone can tell there should be some type of evidence.
celebrities? It's a good book to learn about the effects of mind control and ties to some o
Hi Coton, That sounds like vague, dismissive disinformation to me.
please post where you found this information about the information coming from her therapi
The only published criticism I have seen of Brice Taylor/Sue Ford is in Cathy O'Brien's books http://www.rense.com/general2/phil.htm
Access Denied. This has been discussed many times before, and you can read the relevant quo
Basically, it puts more of a question on the credibility of Cathy O'Brien, rather than Sue Ford. I http://mcawareness.livejournal.com/ page under the "Project Monarch: The Tangled Web Phillips) - By Martin Cannon 1996" posting.
Other than that, I have not encountered any material that has even attempted to genuinely "d
Taylor's book. The emotion of the book reads very truthfully, in my opinion. If you read the bo
is hard to imagine one not being convinced by her story, although of course it is very "far o
societal context. It certainly didn't bring Brice Taylor much in the way of the fame or fortu and afterward.
anomalous in its content... that is, it fits into the larger picture of many other books and rese
Previous to Thanks For The Memories, Sue Ford wrote "Starshine: One woman's valiant esca
novel", which was apparently a "dramatic" or novelized retelling of her experiences in therapy for I think $25 (its selling on Amazon.com used for $40+). For what its worth, Sue Ford is currently a Neurofeedback practitioner in the Southeast US,
was a few years before TFTM. I am not familiar with the content of the book, although it is sti
money on the touring/speaking circuit for many years. Cathy and Mark, on the other hand, ar thought.
giving $65/person workshops on "mind control deprogramming" while enjoying free publicity f
Basically, I would say the worst decision you can make is to simply NOT READ any of Sue Ford material a fair look and make up your own mind!
there is a disinformation campaign aimed at discrediting her. Based only on that, I would r

Tim
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Coton
21-November-2006 20:15
I enjoyed reading Brice's book. Although, I think everyone would agree that for the aver
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overwhelming. That's why I think it's great to know and understand, but as far as every deta
there's some debate that could take place. It's kinda like someone saying they saw heaven an
description of what they saw, but I can't say yes or now because it's based on a personal sto
people tell me they went to heaven and who saw the same thing and I can even listen to bibl
what the person says is true about heaven and I would give them credence. I can read the bib
a heaven and it's a wonderful place and there are animals there, etc. and I believe it because o after they walked on it, well, it might be that way, but they didn't bring any grass back exclusively on fact, can I?
in the bible. But if they said they walked into a room and everyone was young-looking and the
they take pictures so that I could see that everyone in heaven was young-looking. So, I can'
I think her discussion overall regarding programming is very valuable both as a resource and a
interesting that the entire book is available to read on the web at no charge. Being interested
shed some light in helping to understand some of what he has gone thro
There are negative things about her book on the web. Just google. You'll find them. I have to are that are writing the comments as well. I have to think that some of them are a bit
think it's a bit too much for the average reader. Someone who is heavily into research, peopl
sure. But for an average Joe, "too much all at once." I did go to one of your links and read the
Phillips and it certainly makes sense that Cathy has simply gone from one handle I'm looking forward to reading more and studying more. I am enjoying this topic and I am as I can from the contributors on this website. Thanks for your input.
thr33tim3
09-December-2006 22:39
WOW! OMFG!
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http://www.arcticbeacon.com/6-Dec-2006a.html relevant bits:
QUOTE
It's been a bad couple of days for George H. Daddy Bush as, according to inside sources,
empire is collapsing before his evil eyes while, at the same time, a photo recently surfaced sh
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Johnny Gosch, a 1982 child kidnapping victim involved in the much talked about White H [...]
Besides Daddy Bush's supposed financial headaches, Jim Rothstein, a former New York P radio show, The Investigative Journal, than a photo was uncovered, showing Bush with 1982.
investigated the huge pedophile scandal in the late 70;s and 80's which continues today, repo
"We haven't gone public with the photo but it was sent to Noreen Gosch, Johnny's mother, wh
her son since 1982," said Rothstein Tuesday when he appeared as a guest on The Investigati that surfaced showing Johnny and other kids bound a gagged was a big
helping her try to uncover the huge pedophile ring which took her son for the last two years
"The one picture definite shows Bush Sr. and I know they will try to hit us hard and discred
with it. The source is credible and connate be revealed for obvious reasons, but the Noreen is what happened to her son, Johnny, who was caught up in the biggest pedophile ring in our leaders. "I have never stopped trying to get at the truth even after I was forced out of the NYPD
media while the FBI is in charge of protecting the high level officials involved instead of trying
uncovered the Vatican and Cardinal Spellman were involved with high level politicians. Spellm and one of the most powerful men in America, controlling our own Greg Szymanski
evil and biggest criminal degenerate of them all, according to many of my credible informant
What will happen next??? Tim
Cypher
07-May-2007 00:00
There have been further developments on this, posted over at the
QUOTE
Former NYPD Det. Blows Lid Off JFK hit and High Level Vat Government Involvement In Pedophile RIngs
Site Admin
Jim Rothstein nabbed JFK shooter Frank Sturgis for trying to kill an insider who
about who put together the JFK assassination. He also nabbed former NY Cardina 28 Feb 2007 By Greg Szymanski Former NYPD Detective Jim Rothstein blew the lid off the JFK assassination investigation as innocent children off the streets of America.
level U.S officials for their involvement in the nationwide pedophile
level U.S. government and Vatican officials being involved up to their dirty necks in huge pe
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The information Rothstein has collected from his 40 years of police work and private inves shockwaves through the heartland of America, but instead his information has been protect the New World Order powers that be.
Rothstein claims the media ignores the "important facts" about JFK's real killers and hide perpetrators of the huge pedophile and human trafficking rings operating in
Regarding the JFK assassination, Rothstein nabbed one of the protected shooters, Frank Stu while still working as a New York detective. Sturgis was hauled into police headquarters after was about to testify before Congress.
received a hot tip Sturgis was on his way to murder a woman named Marita, who was involve
"We took Sturgis into custody when he came to Marita's New York apartment to kill her," sa
Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal on the Republic Broadcasting Netwo
Rothstein explained the entire sequence of events on the two hour radio broadcast leading up after a call to the White House. "He said he was one of the shooters on the grassy knoll," said Rothstein. "He opened up to
involvement in the Kennedy hit, Marita's involvement and how Sturgis was finally released w
interrogation after he found out I was on the Essex during the Bay of Pigs since Sturgis wa
there. He also said Kennedy's actions during the Bay of Pigs was one reason he ha
Rothstein also learned from Marita, an agent and assassin who worked for the government an including Sturgis, who all left in a car driving from Miami to
lover, that she was involved in the planning of the JFK hit, telling Sturgis the hit squad was ma
"Although we had Sturgis nabbed for the attempted murder of Marita, which included tap
threatening Marita, saying 'you know what happens to people who talk about the JFK shootin
being prosecuted after he was arraigned, he was mysteriously let go and all charg "What was even more curious was that the one phone call he was allowed was made to one investigators of the Kennedy assassination, indicating a cover-up was in the
Rothstein added that years later he was contacted by a credible unknown source who was try
page confession Sturgis allegedly made before he died to Cardinal Coo
Rothstein was told that the written confession talked about "everything Sturgis ever did w involvement in the JKF killing.
"My informant made several attempts to get the document into my hands but each time we
intercepted and the transfer couldn't be made," added Rothstein. "I don't know the man's na
right he will contact me again and hopefully I can get a look at Sturgis' conf
But Rothstein said even without the confession what he learned from Sturgis and Marita was any one interested in getting at the real truth behind who and why Kennedy
"We know it is a cover-up at the highest levels and the Sturgis story provides more credibil cover-up.
On the radio show, Rothstein addressed the huge pedophile ring problem, using his expe the few good policeman who tried to get to the bottom of human trafficking
providing credibility for his statements. Rothstein was know for years, until his forced retirem
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"The trail of guilt went right to the steps of the Vatican and the highest government official
Rothstein. "I had informants who help us finally realized Cardinal Spellman was behind the pro
most powerful and evil men in this country and after his death, the same thing is going on "Not one case had ever been allowed to proceed to the real perpetrators as people like
Morgenthal are always protecting the higher-ups. People need to realize who are the rea problem to be the biggest terrorist threat facing our country. "The real story has always been kept from the people and when it does break like in
government and the government, demanding that the kidnapping of our children finally be s
lower level people are arrested. When I was getting close to the real Vatican and U.S. gover with a million dollars.
patner and I were offered two million dollars to drop the investigation, the money coming in t
"When we refused the money, eventually I was approached with taking an early retirement a
I might never see a pay check again. I think it was clear what they mea
After Rothstein retired, he laid low for five years but said he never could really retire becaus children kept calling him for help.
"The world got around that I was really trying to end the pedophile problem and I just kep in the Franklin case, is a good example.
people to understand the problem is worse today and the kidnapping case of Johnny Gosch, in
Rothstein has been helping Johnny's mother, Noreen, in trying to solve the Gosch 1982 kidna the forms of revealing photos have surfaced. Recently, Noreen Gosch spoke on the Investigative Journal about her son's case
Gosch is also not afraid to sadly admit -- although it hurts -- that her son has become just ano
milk carton, a face she has seen only in her dreams for more than 20 years as all leads hav
proverbial dead end street due to a massive cover-up at the highest lev
But then in August, out of the blue, Gosch received what she claims to be an important lead arriving on her doorstep, strangely arriving on her birthday.
"On my birthday," said Gosch in a message posted on a web site she since started, "I receiv
following pictures inside. The first photo is of my son Johnny, shortly after he was kidnapped
was still wearing the clothing he had on the day he was taken. He is bound and
Since the photo of her kidnapped son arrived, other photos and information started pouring in
of her young son along with photos of other alleged kidnapped childre Although some of the photos have been identified as coming from an "exclusive members
of the other children have been identified by their families, Gosch remains perplexed at the
enforcement and the hush-hush attitude taken by legislators, including the Bush W "There is something we can all do to help plead the cause of protecting innocent children," plea to officials.
"Please send letters to President Bush, and e-mails to Vice President Cheney and your State S investigated."
and Governors at the following addresses, asking that 'jacobstales' and other pedophilia
Rothstein added that he personally has tried to renew the interest of the Gosch case since the
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has been blocked every step of the way.
Looking for solutions, Rothstein is calling for a bi-partisan congressional investigation and p hearings to be aired publicly by a special prosecutor and Grand He added: "Any body invoking 5 amendment rights during the Congressional hearings would be put in and indictments. "Laws to be passed, include the following:
The Grand Jury would also subpoena appropriate witnesses. The Grand Jury would return rec
"Any enforcement agency, agent, prosecutor, or any authority failing to act on pedophi children complaint by doing a complete investigation is guilty of a "Any person, agency, or other entity who interferes, threatens, harasses, impedes, or with mandatory 5 year prison sentence. "Anybody who uses children, for child porn, pedophilia, to compromise, extort or an unwilling act is guilty of a felony punishable by death. (life in prison, no
an investigation, prosecution, or witness in pedophile criminal case or criminal use of children
"Anybody who buys, sells, trades or in any way promotes, enables, or profits from parole) Greg Szymanski
compromise, or the use of children in a criminal manner is guilty of a felony punishable by d
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11-June-2007 14:08
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I'm very glad to see this worthy subject back under the spotlight, If Noreen (or anyone else) for anything we outside of the US can do, they'd be most Mairi
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