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this disjointed essay concerning the Alpha Lodges. I have felt it necessary to edit very little of this work, although legal considerations have ensured that some names and details were excised. It was His intention to have this published in the popular media. The Alpha Lodges do exist. Evidence leaves no doubt. Frater 616 died as he lived an enigma! His Intelligence connexions and influential friends miss him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Arthur & Fiona Cristian replied to Aloysius Fozdyke Hello Aloysius We will post this document as is in the Love For Life website here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7103 (under section: Freemasonry - Secret Societies - Masonic Lodges - Fraternities http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/08/freemasonry-secret-societies-...) with a reference back to you as the source/supplier of this information written by Petor Narsagonan. You are most welcome to create a blog in the love for life website where you can post such articles/information down-the-line as you feel inspired to do so. Please go here to begin the steps of creating your blog: http://loveforlife.com.au/forum All the best Arthur Cristian Love For Life ---------------------------------------2nd January 2009 - 7.46pm The email Arthur & Fiona sent bounced so it is possible this document is either a prank or is genuine but the sender is protecting himself/herself. Hi. This is the qmail-send program at relay02.pair.com. I m afraid I wasn t able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I ve given up. Sorry it didn t work out. afozdyke @ yahoo.co.uk ---------------------------------------4th January 2010 - 10:15 PM A.J. Fozdyke sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact. Dear Sir, I forwarded the material to you and thank you for publishing same. Unfortunately a number of websites have reproduced it. This was never my intention. I have removed some details; for example, the fact that J.W.H. is a High Grade Magician, that J.W.B. was a puppet being manipulated by the Alpha Lodge and that T.B. is an advanced initiate within the O.N.A. A number of paragraphs were re-arranged in order to achieve greater narrative flow, for in some circumstances I was working from notes. The Dr. Ward referred to was Dr. Stephen Ward (about whom the entire truth will never be told). The British pound will plummet, allowing the U.K. Government to more easily adopt the Euro. The American Empire is about to implode. Diseases created in the U.S.S.R. are about to be inadvertently unleashed upon the world. The timetable has its own momentum because no one cares to stop it! Petor Narsagonan was known by a number of names, at least one of which would be known by many South Africans. He published under a number of non-de plumes. I have no idea of all that he did and I do not wish to know. He is dead. He was found dead by a regular visitor to one of his homes (in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia). His demise had been expected and yet I have heard rumours of peculiar events preceding it. His body was cremated (as is the tradition) in a ceremony that saw the Council of Seven convene in Melbourne; Victoria, Australia

on 30th April, 2004. I do not believe that he had children (or at least, surviving children). The terms of his testamentary disposition (probate was not requires) left his assets, including portfolios, to the Grand Council of The Alpha Lodge. Because I do not wish to be contacted I have not proffered any of my details. I ask that you accept that I have my reasons for so doing. I have filled in some of the gaps with the assistance of Fraters S.A. and K9. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------5th January 2009 9:09 PM Aloysius Fozdyke sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact. Final Email For we are part of His Kingdom; For Aeons and Aeons. Whether the herd doubt the material I have forwarded is not of any interest to me. I was instructed to follow the wishes of the late Petor Narsagonan and have done so, at some personal risk to myself. There is enough (albeit dated) material for individuals to judge its veracity. Being familiar with the work I know that there are names and information that could be researched. I also know that these will not be. Perhaps Petor was applying the oldest trick in the book: if you want to hide something, make it public. As for me, I am advancing in years and must perform some ordeals whilst I am still able. This is my last direct communication. In the coming months an economic depression will quickly manifest that will make the Great Depression look like a picnic. The sheeple do not care that we have orchestrated it and have been since the Mount Washington Hotel meeting of July, sixty-six years ago. No one showed any concern then, so when their wives and daughters prostitute themselves to put food on the table and the desperate sell their children, they still won t complain! Paper money is cheap to print but must be paid with interest and we and our associates want more real assets - including the assets of our doubters. In a scientific world devoid of divinity the fear of the diabolical still thrives. There is something within the minds of men and women that knows the atavistic comprehension that although buried beneath centuries of science and schooling still whispers, Something wicked this way comes. Our ancient path is the path to power unimaginable, to a Darkness and Evil that rides through the Black Magician like thunder, to the inexorable eclipse of the conscience that betrays. It is the gate into the unspeakable, where the mighty rise as Gods and Goddesses and the meek shrivel into ashes. Darkness must be known and experienced as a real and tangible force, as substantial as the wind that stirs into a tornado, never seen but undeniable all the same. And shortly you shall all know it. A.J. Fozdyke -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Australias Global Satanic Legacy And Future (Pt. 1) By Frater 616 I will go down to The Altars in Hell To Satan The Giver of Life O! Prince of Darkness Hear Me!

Our Father which wert in heaven Hallowed be Thy Name In heaven as it is on Earth. Give us this day our Ecstasy And deliver us to evil As well as temptation For we are your Kingdom For Aeons and Aeons. Satanism flourishes beneath the scintillating midnight-blue wet streets and bedevilling phosphorescent lights of Australias glittering capital cities. Its practitioners are from all walks of life. Although marginal types and those with predisposing personalities have always and will always be important to Satanism and its leaders ends, they are merely tools. Their antinomian influence is now so pervasive as not to be readily noticed. Amongst the highest echelons some are politicians, medical doctors, high ranking police officers, lawyers, advertising gurus, decorated military men, media personalities, fashion models and social workers. Amongst the lowest (usually temporary) ranks are prostitutes, minor drug dealers and a number of High School students. Some operate from the mists. Their victims are drip-fed straight amnesia by an assortment of mind control measures and psychological torture tactics that would leave any normal person numb with the dawning apprehension that things are not as they seem and they have not been for a long, long time. The most talented amongst them have lifestyles maintained on crime, but lacquered with a thin veneer of respectable professionalism and knowledge. They dress with elegance - timeless and calculating; networking and conspiring in a dream that money alone cannot purchase. Often their personalities have a force that distorts the contours both of judgement and of everyday perception. I cannot mention every name, but I will drop enough clues. The doctors refuse to say exactly how long I have but I became involved in the whole sordid business in the 1970s, a decade noted for little beyond sartorial bad taste and crushingly optimistic fatalism. The decade that began as a drug-crazed carry-over of the 1960s soon bequeathed androgynous glam-rock, the Watergate scandal and the shallow opportunism of Rollerball. Science fictionism stalked the streets with a rejected furtiveness bred of cowering beneath the backdrop of the Cold War and dancing with the resurrected agonies of another Asian based imperialistic conflict. I fell through a crack in reality, having deliriously wandered amid the human wreckage and reached certain spiritual conclusions. In short, I do not know how I got there, but I know why. The 1970s were a dismal, incense-fuelled time that only those who lived through it can appreciate. The comprehensive dismissal of values and the adoption of pornography as the aesthetic standard by which all endeavour was to be categorised left its impressionistic fingerprints on everybodys imagination, mine included. I guess that I analysed and reacted differently. That is how I escaped the mundane - through one of western societys fault lines. Credo quia absurdum! I began dabbling in the black arts as an alienated university student. It was 1971 when I attended my first meeting - only to be led into an existence of happiness, sexual excess, acquisitive arousal and comfort. Within a week of meeting my Luciferian mentor I was operating a number of travel businesses in Sydney and flying to international destinations at least four times a year. I had a Jaguar, city apartment, holiday home in the country, access to a yacht on Sydney harbour and women. I was young and considered to be an up and coming star within the shadowy twilight of the Satanic infrastructure. The nether world was

at my patent leather-soled feet. My suits were hand-make Italian; the cravats and neckties, Chinese silk and my nymphomaniac maids, French. (They dressed like French maids and would often wake me with a lesbian show.) At that time the United States based Church of Satan was the very public face of a movement that had begun almost a century before and had culled its adherents from the renaissance of magic, which had begun in Germany and flowered in England since the dying years of the nineteenth century. The Church of Satan was one of the front organizations for an ancient body whose very existence had never before been imagined. If you want more information on some of its past and most influential members you could do worse than study the late J.P. Morgan, Drs. James McDonald and Ren Hardy, the Kennedys (including Jackie), Irving Berlin, Groucho Marx, Elvis Presley, Garner Ted Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Ronald Reagan, Edward Heath, Thomas Plantard de Saint-Claire or a search amongst the bushes. I learnt and reflected the glamour of the black arts: divination, dark meditation, sacrifice, sexual vampirism, talismans, voodoo dolls and sex magic. My life was one of calculated excess and dazzling fulfilment. I smoked handmade Partagas Cuban cigars. I had a personal secretary who was happy to engage my every whim and find like-minded others if I wanted a change or had a colleague I needed to impress. I finished every day with a restaurant meal, bottle of French Champagne and Black Mass orgy of unforgettable and unspeakable delight. The streets were more innocent, the people more nave. The American Intelligence Services were still involved in funding the occult but their influence was more ingratiating than dictatorial. In any event, many of Americas high ranking military men were members of various Satanic Lodges or kindred organizations. Often sensitive materials and powerful figures - who operated from the comfort, safety and anonymity of the dark velvet shadows - were transported on U.S. and Australian Navy ships. Oil tankers were another favourite. Materials (and indeed, people) have been concealed and lost on oil tankers for years. Remember, this was in the Seventies when Americas organized crime syndicates were establishing the narcotics markets of the Western World, Australia included. I knew her as Lilith, a High Priestess of an ultra-secretive Black Order of Typhon. Hers was the easy smile of a true neurotic and the body of an Angel. Her long cruel fingernails were enamelled in the chic and expensive titillations of her victims and their fantasies. Urolagnists worshipped at her feet and obeyed her every sadistic command. They were not the only ones. Her clientele included the top-end of town and she frequented the boardrooms and bathrooms of power with an essence of mystery, wealth and alluring sluttiness that won her the attention and influence of very many. I had first met her at a stately home in an inner Sydney suburb at one of the regular Black Masses held to strengthen the bonds of lust, occult knowledge and perversion. There she was indulging the Devils faithful, teaching and being videoed for the 1970s black-market that existed in underground extreme porn: bestiality, paedophilia, body wastes and pain. After her services to the Dark Lord she told me over a reefer and through exhaustion that she was only seventeen and had met the Master. He had given her a mission. Lilith was a child from one of Sydneys more self-conscious suburbs. Private school educated and with a future in her fathers business, she sacrificed herself to help establish what is considered today, by those in the know, to be the most powerful and important Satanic organization in the world. That group comprises some of the most educated, wealthy, corrupt and corrupting people that

have ever existed. And they operate out of Sydney, Australia but their influence is international. It transpired that she had been flown to the United States to be tutored and initiated into what was at that time, Anton La Veys underground Satanic sisterhood of professional women with an aptitude for carnality and a conscience to match: the Ordo Cave Lupam. Her high school teacher - an Adept in the Black Arts - had spotted Lilith while she was still only a schoolgirl. Like all Satanists, he believed that truth and salvation could be found through the exploration of repressed human needs; that pornography gave joy and joy gave strength. Through his dedication and perverse ability he had secured her co-operation to begin her new education for her assigned task of political intrigue and influential debasement. After completing her education with the O.C.L. Lilith was tutored by an English gentleman who I knew as Pindar. I never met him but I worship the true father of the statutory heir. His were the Irish mysteries of degradation and when his name was ever mentioned Lilith would often laughingly sing, the rosy red cheeks of the little children. Lilith procured children to satiate the debased lusts of many Satanists. These were taken from single girls by promises, for a fee or occasionally, simple stolen. Babies were bred for their various purposes by Broodmares young unemployed girls who were paid to hand over their produce. Sometimes this magical pornography was filmed; sometimes children died. Once you have seen a young child crucified or a baby kicked to death you are and can never be the same again. The most disturbing aspect of the Black Masses held in Sydney was and remains the ease with which victims were and continue to be obtained and the lack of any effective interest by the police (although a number of Police Commissioners from various States were members of the Order). This is not to suggest that Satanists are simply perverts or child killers. The Alpha-Lodge to which I was a member placed a great deal of emphasis upon Magic, both in theory and practice. Demons were evoked and dispatched; sigils made and sacrifice and the letting of blood encouraged. In this regard, many who bask in their own limited knowledge believe that Aleister Crowley is the father of modern manifestations of Satanism, but this is incorrect. Perhaps Crowley is the grandfather of modern left hand path groups, but their stepfather is Peter James Carroll, the founder of the Chaos Magick School. There are a number of reasons for this and the various Black Lodges within Australia have developed from their early twentieth century reliance upon recruiting from fringe Masonic groups, through High Magick in the nineteen twenties, Low Magick in the nineteen sixties and seventies to their current prospective candidates from amongst Chaos Magick practitioners (who are generally young, ambitious, enthusiastic, energetic and destined by their lifestyle choices to the shadowy world of Satanism). A number of up-market Escort agencies in Australia and elsewhere are operated by Black Magicians. Yet brothels and pornography comprise only a small financial part of the International Satanic Empire. Most of the money comes from drugs (the C.I.A.), sophisticated blackmail, money lending and currency trading. Satanists of the highest order are behind a number of wealthy Conservative, New Right Christian Churches and organizations in America. These are some of contemporary Satanisms best cash-flow enterprises (mostly indirectly) and allow mass indoctrination and networking. The aim of the Alpha Lodge remains illiteracy rates in the western world of at least sixty-six percent by 2010 and the destruction of at least seventy percent of the globes population by the year 2030. All governments count on their

sheeple to respond in typical infantile fashions, including unconsciously identifying with a more powerful force even if it enslaves, brutalizes and humiliates them. Most Australians perform so badly in the role of adult that they rarely achieve complete satisfaction from this process. It is the weak who must tell you they are strong. In this regard, the infiltration of the United Nations by Satanists which began in the 1970s has paid off extremely well already, as has the career of Henry Kissinger. It was Henry Kissinger who preposed the use of fundamentalist Christianity to bring about war, firstly in the Middle East and then globally. In this he was aided by a number of American Presidents subsequent to Richard Millhouse Nixon handing over the reins to Gerald Ford who was always one of ours! As the Headquarters of International Satanism is Sydney, Australia it is not surprising to learn that Norman Lindsay a former Magus of the Order is considered a Satanic Saint. Indeed there are a number of flourishing secret shrines dedicated to him and his memory throughout Australia and the United Kingdom. Every Equinox there are human sacrifices dedicated to him and the subtle but perverted influence his painting and childrens literature continues to have. (Similar shrines exist in America under Henry Kissingers authority but he has altered both the structure and subtle ethos of the American Alpha Lodge Shrines.) It was Lindsay who taught that every political solution leads to more complex and involuted problems. He counselled that the public is not concerned with satanic manipulators but only with petty criminals and little issues which affect their insignificant lives directly. As the status quo is maintained by the masses, it gets heavier the deeper it sinks and the greater its fears. The people cannot succeed or achieve and so must sink deeper and hold on more strongly! The fact that for most people the days repeat endlessly until death relieves them speaks volumes about the (sub-) human condition! Kissinger refined Hitlers Terror Technique into the more subtle and powerful Tension Technique: building tension in society and then finding a scapegoat. Dark Path adepts do this in insignificant ways until they have the power and ability to move and direct people to more gross and hideous behaviours. In Australia recently, the Business Activity Statement for taxation purposes and the immigration debate have worked exceptionally well. The War on Terror has also been of incalculable international influence (even more so than La Veys Satanic Bible continues to be). The rhetorical faade for Georges Presidency may be Christian, but the plan is otherwise! (And for all of the new arrangements the sheeple have adopted, it was still safer to walk the streets in the Second World War than it is now. This is true of all the capital cities of the combatant nations.) If you doubt the influence of Satanism in the modern world consider the following issues: According to the World Bank, Australia is the wealthiest (or second wealthiest, after South Africa) nation on Earth. No one knows the full extent of Australias natural resources and yet the living standards of Australians is getting worse each year and while Australians are amongst the most highly taxed people in the world we are quickly heading towards third world nation status. Who owns and controls the Reserve Bank of Australia (hint, it is the same people who own the American Federal Reserve and the Bank of England)? Why do overseas-owned companies pay so little taxation in Australia and why does the Australian government (of whichever political persuasion) allow overseas mining conglomerates to rape our environment and give Australians back next to nothing in return? Why was fluoride put into Australias water supply and why is it impossible to have it removed? Are you seeing a pattern here? Why is the media of the Free World so heavily controlled and their shamefaced relationship to government so symbiotic?

Why have the educational standards of the Western World been forced to dumb down (a process accelerated in the 1980s by both Spielberg and Lucas at the instigation of the Australian Alpha Lodge)? Why has multiculturalism been foisted upon the First World (with the exception of Japan)? And who was behind the September the 11th operation? Which countrys Intelligence Agency supplied the W.M.D. story which caused the Iraq invasion? (Hint, it was not a Christian or Islamic nation) The fact is that Alpha Lodge politicians (or political advisors) appreciate that if they pretend to respect the rights of sheeple and fain interest in their concerns, even though most realise that this is a ruse, they will go along with the programmes and policies because it is the line of least resistance. The democratic process allows them to express some of their frustrations, reduces the pain of their pent up depression and aggression while ensuring that nothing changes. You can see the same Representative Democracy political system everywhere it has been implemented. Sheeple always use reason and logic to justify their whims, so the Alpha Lodge initiate is taught to speak in moderation while convincingly offering miracles. It is only a matter of waiting for the media to generate the slogan that the government should do something and the governments everywhere and of all political persuasions - always will. Australian Satanists have always been at the forefront of high quality videos and D.V.D.s devoted to kiddie-porn. Sheeple are such that although they scream about the importance of justice, it is of no interest unless they are in some way harmed! Their morality is that of the herd, for the more that sheeple feel isolated yet together, the easier it is for Satanists to reign. Provide the subjects with the forbidden and they feel fragmented, weak, guilty and often worthless all of which the Master Satanist employs for their own ends. In Australian produced paedophile entertainment certain Avon guard features predominate: sexual frenzy, degrading treatment, filth, coprophilia, torture, rape and death. All of this is carefully crafted and augmented by aphrodisiacs and violence. Often the women involved are far worse than the men little boys agonised by the cruel fingers, long tapered fingernails, teeth, cigarettes and perversions of ravishingly beautiful and debased female practitioners who are without restraint and have been maddened with heartless pride. Genital torture and castration are a constant theme. I will never forget the heartfelt sobs, desperate pleas, blood, tears and screams induced in many little boys by the agonizing use of alligator-clips, the application of the strap, whip, dildo, knee and the torment of electric shock! Often Satanists advertise in free youth culture Street newspapers. This provides them with a constant supply of young teenage hopefuls to recruit or exploit (or both). Often Street-kids are taken in, used and discarded. It is only another missing teenager! Coffee shops, city entertainment complexes and even evangelical youth based churches are still used to this day to lure the innocent and not so innocent, their hearts full of broken dreams from broken homes. (Thank you Lionel.) Often members who have reached a certain Grade, whose task and Ordeal it is to establish and maintain Outer Temple Teaching Orders as a recruiting ground for the Traditional Satanic Lodges, do so with dazzling results. Candidates are accepted and accessed over the required time for character, imagination and intellect in that order. Debauchery as a science is taught and maintained by programmes - strict in nature and observance. Rituals are conducted, thought-patterns established, relationships destroyed and dependencies enhanced. Psychopaths are studied and emulated.

Some of the deadliest, most effective and disarming assassins are women. Within the Alpha Lodges they are worshipped as embodiments of the Dark Goddess who is known by many names and is virgin still! Currently the Outer Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia is a very highly placed and successful Federal politician whose Satanic name is Bestia. The Inner Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia is the highest Crown Service operative in the Commonwealth (having replaced former Crown Service agent and Greek Princess Eketrini, a.k.a Sheila Fraser). Together and with time, those at the highest echelons of International Satanism believe that there is nothing they cannot achieve. And if you knew even half of what they have already done you would agree. Ask yourself whether you have not noticed a number of world tendencies coalescing around the inevitable. That the social fabric is no longer made of whole cloth and that politicians everywhere are becoming more brazen and extreme in their prescriptions and accomplishments should long ago have left little pause for thought, but it didnt then and doesnt now! The modern media is a pastiche of sex and soft eroticism. The Western worlds drinking water has been laced with chemicals that exert powerful effects over time. Rates of depression, suicide, incest and bank interest continue to rise but no one bothers to join the dots! What do all of the following people have in common: Norman Lindsay, Sir William McMahon, Garfield Barwick, Lionel Murphy, Rosalyn Norton, Clyde Cameron and Stephanie Bartholomew (a.k.a Abigail)? From where do more Australians get their news and why? What is Michael Aquinos interest in Australias Pine Gap Facility and why is discussion of the Bases use and purpose inadmissible within Australias polite society and media? I believe in one Prince, Satan, who reigns over this Earth, And in one Law which triumphs over all. I believe in one Temple Our Temple to Satan, and in one Word which triumphs over all: The Word of ecstasy. And I believe in the Law of the Aeon, Which is sacrifice, and in the letting of blood For which I shed no tears since I give praise to my Prince The fire-giver and look forward to his reign And the pleasures that are to come! A number of Crown Service agents in Australia were relieved on the evening of 19th December 1967. A number of the Presidents men in Australia were quietly celebrating as the clock struck midnight on the 11th of November 1975. Both Intelligence Agencies had relations which were still trespassed by the ghost of Dr. Ward. Both reacted to these events because of Australian Satanism, in the first case because H.R.H. Queen Elizabeth II would be saved embarrassments and in the second because Gough Whitlam was not one of them. On this point I am in no doubt, Sir John did his duty to the Princess and Inner Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia. And Sir Garfield explained it! Most people do not know that J. W. Howards first overseas trip, as Prime Minister of the Commonwealth of Australia was to receive his thirty-third Masonic degree, for in matters of his true faith he manifests a decidedly disillusioned romantic apprehension. His is the perfect example of parallel lives and a compliant media well and truly out of their depth. The same could not be said for Harold and his parties and the fact that people were noticing and indeed, Sir William was invited. You have little if any idea of the history, connexions and the network of Australias Sinister Lodges, the Temples within them or their adherents and puppets. Why are some politicians spectacularly successful and others dogged at every step? How was the New York based public relations firm paid by John for doing such a good job in the elections? Has any one bothered to check the Commonwealth of Australias Department of Treasury records and would they know what they were looking for? I became Outer Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia in the same year a meteoric rise to power brought a change of federal government with a Prime Minister whose

relationship to Satanism was tenuous and pedestrian at best. But then again, he liked to play around and a number of our special people were happy to accommodate him, for a price. He craved respect and understated admiration and received both from us for the efforts he expended. I left the Alpha Lodge as best as one can and tried to reclaim a more mundane if no less ingratiating lifestyle. I operated a media company publishing anti-Christian tractates, political pamphlets and pornographic videos, working for a number of organizations internationally. The extreme rightwing of Britain had recently been infiltrated by a very old and isolated left hand path tradition and this sinister development augured well for the Alpha Lodges (although today, David Myatt is considered more of a Prophet than a representative of the Hebdomadry Magickal System). While the Order of Nine Angles pursues a more open approach in the United Kingdom and increasingly in the United States of America, in Australia we still work just out of view). The strength of International Satanism continued to increase as its oldest families continued to wither. In the real world, money gives power and those best placed to dictate the money market always win, yet their magnetism and glamour have faded and their futures are more tenuous than at any other time. Their collective days may be drawing to an end. Their most enduring legacies will be the power structures they created and the relationships facilitated. Their funding of diverse groups dedicated to the destruction of Christianity is a story never to be told! (Their most successful recent social campaign was the Please God, dont let the Priest rape me again! effort in the late 1980s to date and the promotion of Lilac Seminaries.) Modern post-1980 Satanism is the result of some hard learned truths and well-practiced procedures. Everyone knows that we are becoming more obvious there are decreasing reasons to hide. The World of High Fashion always a glittering ephemeral chimera - became an overtly successful recruiting ground for sweet young things with a daring and glamorous nature. Multi-Billionaires increasingly sought the spiritual comfort and insider information the Satanic Alpha-Lodges could provide. What most people do not realise is that Satanism is a ritually based practice and that this repetition has - over time - left strong impressions upon the Morphic Field! This reinforces security and comfort within the left hand paths true adherents! Politically, the libertarianism of Twain that permeated Satanism gave way to the realization that the sheeple do not want freedom. They are happy to build their own pens. Two thousand years of Christianity has left them domesticated, so Satanism began taking to itself rightwing positionings, farther and farther a field. In any event, all bank vault doors swing open to the right! All the leaders are dictators and the sheeple eat from their hand just the way they like to. Satanism now free of its earlier hallucinations fully accepts the pathetic nature of the human condition, wrapped as it is in the gaudy packages of superstition. Satanism finally managed to infiltrate the major left wing and middle of the road political parties on May Day, 1997. Another group long ago bought the American Congress, so the Alpha Lodges concentrated on the Republican Party and this has paid some very high dividends. Currently the U.S. federal government dances to our tune (a couple of steps removed, if you know what I mean)! Within the left hand path, Satan is the Supreme Prince (the Hierarchy of Hell begins with The Prince). He is The Other, the bright Fire Giver and Illuminator! He is the only God who cares! Satanism is a spiritual Darwinian theory based on predation. Devoted Satanists dedicate themselves and their sex acts to their Dark Lord. Prayers are said, Chants intoned or Invocations recited

all as the basis of obtaining the blessings of Hell. Unknown if not always unsuspected Infernal Temples exist in every major city throughout the world Vatican City included! Every hour of every day and every night people are knowingly engaged in Satans service. Human sacrifice whether ritually and quicker or slowly and degradingly over time is all harnessed to specific ends. Politicians are introduced by a carefully graded set if criteria and situations that enable them to accept that their victims will be, Our little secret. Young children sexually molested and physically abused by politicians worldwide are quickly used as sacrifices. In Australia the bodies are hardly ever discovered, for Australia is still a wilderness. Overseas, cremation is the favoured method and although the Satanic Alpha Lodges of Australia have access to crematoria when needed, this is surprisingly rare. Believe it or not many bodies are dumped over the side every week in a number of isolated bush land settings. The emerging set of Satanic leaders is young, savvy, competent and heartless. They are masters and mistresses of their emotions and their intellect. Many are involved in business, politics, the legal profession and the arts. They are affluent, mobile and stylish examples to the next generation and therefore to the next generation of Satanists that power is glory, lust is nobility and liberty is the highest ideal of the new world man and woman. They use debasement of their victims as a ritual of power to themselves and their Deities. Often their victims are made to suffer in any number of situations. All of them are dedicated to creating the new men and women of the future and to surpassing the Old Ones. Beginning in Sydney in the late 1980s was a now International Underground Sadomasochist society founded by Satanists. Victims are abused to death in grotesque rituals held in secluded chambers throughout the global metropolis and never-ending suburbs and bewildered housing estates. Although many who attend are unaware of anything except their ability to fulfil special needs and cultivated tastes, all of these gatherings are Satanic in nature and magickal in purpose. This dark, ultra-secretive society has been used to corrupt and destroy; to distil fear and ensure petrified silence! (Remember The Family of South Australia? Ever wondered why so many people conveniently die from electrical fires?) Bodily juices of all descriptions are sacred to Satanists and can be used for magickal purposes. The advent of sadomasochism as an accepted form of expression is due to the efforts of Satanists in subverting normalcy and inverting mainstream Christian values. The S&M Society was used as recruitment ground for some of the most perverted geniuses I have ever met. And with the advent of the World Wide Web, extreme hardcore Bathroom Sex came into its own as a sub-genre to be taken seriously. Today such stars as Alexia Cage (and Her growing number of friends) are enjoying careers that would have been inconceivable but a few short years ago. Indeed many Toilet Sex starlets are committed Satanists and Alpha Lodge members or affiliates. By their presence in the world does the Prince of Darkness achieve his aim of exporting enlightenment into the Objective Universe. Concomitantly, Restroom Magick continues to develop its own left hand path techniques in which the convenience serves as a representation of and chalice unto the Goddess. (By way of only one example, today in co-educational facilities throughout the Western World, Bathroom Sex and flute playing are rampant across all age groups. Thank you High Priestess Monica and White Witch. Fiona). The people of the world are easy to manipulate. Homo sapiens are herd animals, after all! Its all colour and movement when it comes to the masses. Give them an

election with no policy choices and for the most part they are happy. Allow their children no real prospect of success, inhibit their natural drives particularly their sex drives; limit their options, coarsen their choices and society (such as it still is) quickly falls apart into pre-determined categories. No families, just weak individuals free to do as they are told. Satan is a wonderful systems man! Already there are rampantly individualistic spiritualities spreading throughout the world. Souls and agendas are kidnapped with ease and Luciferian style. Rock and Roll Gods and Goddesses captivate the hearts and minds of the next generation. The boldness of the Black Metal musicians/magicians and the mantras they spread still excite and amaze me even after my achievements! Advertising continues to chip away at acceptable standards such that nowadays almost anything is realized as being eminently possible. The foreign policy of the worlds only superpower is directed from Israel and our work is now running on autopilot. The Alpha Lodge has taken steps to try to ensure that after the next war the Tradition is maintained in the intervening centuries, before civilization, as we know it, begins again. At that time, Satanism will be in the only religion and science. We have secured the texts, books, relics and magickal weapons necessary for Our Dark Lord and I see the storm clouds gathering. Ritual activity is increasing. Social structures are almost totally eroded. The Sheeple gather for their slaughter. Vindex walks amongst us now and very few know (or think that they do). The Other. Beyond that Attracting, Transforming, Forbidden, Essence. Contradictory Defiance: challenging in its purest, answering, archetypal, shape-shifting form. The fascination that creates, nourishes, destroys and redeems. The Prince of the Earth, the Lord of the Air, the Darkness of the Deep, and the God of Fire! The majestic potency, force, presence, power; Magick of the Name of one known by many. Intoxicating. Subversive. Eternal. The Other. That arrogant, inspirational quest and elegant undercurrent to a superior life of overcoming Everything you have never dreamed of and more than your deepest nightmares. The alarming, awful, sinister, dispossessed delight of the Empowerment of Knowing The Triumph of Ecstasy reflected in Your Imagination, Honour, Genius and Terror! Rebellion! Liberty! The Other. That banished suspicion and apprehensive silence - trespassing in disguise. A Question and An Accusation - The Fear and Celebration. The Shadow and horror unknown of Life and Death - Of Aeons passed and Potentiality. Of Willing and Becoming and Exalting in this life... Hail Myself that I Seek to Be HAIL SATAN It is revealed individually To those who can bear it ******************************* May Satan the all-powerful Prince of Darkness And Lord of Earth Grant me my desires. Let there be ecstasy and darkness; let there be chaos and laughter, Let there be sacrifice and strife: but above all let us enjoy The gifts of life! Zazas Zazas Nasatanata Zazas! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Australias Global Satanic Legacy And Future (Pt. 2) By Frater 616 Law is the product of man. What God can create man can destroy! It is always politics. Even when people obey the law, it is a political decision. Spirituality is a tool. The State has employed it, always. For Homo sapiens are herd animals. Hate yourself enough and the World hates with you. Freedom is a two-edged sword. Count Hans Kolvenbach The young woman was barely conscious yet her nipples were bullet-hard. Her inviting, natural sexual aroma interplays with the civet incense and dancing candlelight. The congregation stands in silence as infant children re-enact the pornography they have been taught. Upon the Altar the young woman lays with gaping legs and delicate droplets of urine upon her pubic hair. As the children finish their pre-arranged aping pantomime of degradation, the chanting to the Dark Gods and Dark Goddesses begins. The Altar is always a human body male, female, alert, drugged, alive or dead. In every case, the Altar is fresh and young. The mechanics of a High Satanic Black Mass are the same as in any theatre designed to re-open psychic gateways, inculcate dedication, glorify, rarefy and idealize spirituality. Only the aims differ. In Satanism, sodomy is preferred because of its magickal effects. The sacramental nature of Ezekiel 4:12-13, II Kings 18:27, Malachi 2:2-3 and Isaiah 16:11 are only fully understood by Satanists. Even abstinence from all forms of satisfying and normal sexual congress is used to enable the destruction and replacement of old beliefs and standards. Merely to sidestep conventionality still leaves the neophyte with a mass of prejudices, idiosyncrasies, identifications and preferences that give comfort and definition to the personality. By pushing wider the parameters of being and expanding ideas, Satanists experience the inherent transience and contingent nature of all things. The Black Mass whether High Satanic or Low orgy achieves this. Any form of bizarre sexual congress is explored and encouraged because atrophied tastes need stronger stimulation. Children, the elderly, the mentally retarded and desperate are used at satanic ceremonies throughout the world. The left hand path caters for all tastes and responds to all needs. In Australia and throughout what used to be the Soviet Union, Downs Syndrome pornography is an expanding market and an acquired taste. Approximately one new D.V.D. like The Gangbang of Mary Mongoloid Series (1998-2001) or Downer Syndrome Follies I-II (2001-2003) - hits the underground market every couple of months. Before that were the still popular Paedophiles Paradise and Toil-art videos. Cutting as it does through all of society; boutique pornography offers many opportunities to the Alpha Satanic Lodges. With the reform and application of the mercantile system to the Western World the opportunities for well organized crime and well-placed puppets burgeoned! Brothels are built with bricks of religion; Prisons with bricks of law. By misunderstanding the nature of Satan and His spirituality the True Adherents are safe to openly declare their allegiance to the world which they do! Why did so many of the important people appear to have had well-planned excuses if not escape routes? Wheels within wheels! To every Temple a God! Since Normal Lindsays time, the Alpha Lodges have maintained well-organized political affiliations. Senior public servants, career bureaucrats and the diplomatic service have been used to integrate the coming Satanic age just ask Sir A.G. (Name removed)! Most people are more comfortable asserting their independence than being correct, effective, well off or powerful. They believe, because them have no or very few facts and because their beliefs offer them comfort mostly the comfort of moral superiority. They use logic, reason,

history, law; indeed anything at all to help them follow their prejudices and fulfil their desires. Governments everywhere cater for those people who would rather live on their knees than die on their feet. Politicians did not invent the human condition; they only take advantage of it. The Satanic aristocracy sees the masses as tools; means by which the ends envisioned may be achieved - individual suffering is irrelevant. The ends are all that matter; the means are chosen based on totally utilitarian and logical decisions. Corruption is endemic but accepted. That Queen Elizabeth II is claiming ignorance of her own governments laws while disdainfully hiding behind her advisors and masquerading her interests behind complex business structures apparently bothers no one. Although the secret selling off of the farm in Australia was thorough it was not slow. People assist their governments to push them to the side of their own lives Always have, always will! Its the War against Terror; its the same everywhere. Yet everyone agrees that the streets of the worlds major cities are more dangerous now than they were throughout the Second World War! But who cares? History is replete with stories that never get told. How many people know about General Douglas Macarthurs 40 pages Memorandum of Saturday the 20th of January 1945 to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt or the names and rank of the Port Arthur killers? And whatever did happen to the Frogmen of the 19th of December? Viable, truly spiritual Satanism is becoming more overt. This is because of those who went before. And as the schedule works itself, the Alpha Satanic Lodges are growing ever more public. I will not mention names, front-organizations or interests. The time is when these will announce themselves just like Disneyland! We infiltrated then built the modern media, created porno-film empires, turned Snuff into art and liberated young people. Ours is the obsession of the mystery of darkness! This is our age: The Age of Satanas! Internet sites full of the grossest vulgarity and operated out of Israel are mostly founded upon left hand path philosophies. Take Alexia Cage, for example. The number of diplomats or their children who are into scat(ology) is legion, with all the possibilities that brings. Billy S. (name deleted) was one of our better acquisitions until he died in Sonias arms. Known behind his back as Billy Browno, A.S.I.O. destroyed the records as they do for judges, senior bureaucrats, our businessmens clubs and diplomats. But the average Homo normalis is beyond caring. Provided their bellies are full, their minds empty and their time consumed with frivolous entertainment, Satanists are free to triumph. It took less than sixty years to turn the Western world from war heroes to poofters; from bold, adventurers to crybabies; from devoted couples to divorcees and although never afraid of work in the past, now everyone has a Doctors Certificate. Chronic apathy bolstered by cynicism litters the economic cul-de-sacs of our society. Literacy is almost gone, television is almost irrelevant, public infrastructure is heritage protected and most are crushed by the foreboding knowledge that tomorrow is another day. The Wand must be bedaubed. The Cup drained. The Sword dazzling. The Disc penetrated. With Fire the Tunnel is penetrated. With thirst the Cup is dazzled. With Air the Sword is drained. With soil the Disc bedaubed. Within the temple in the temple Find here the Mysteries of the mysteries The back passage is the shortest way

Turn Water into wine. On the 21st of July 1913 Franz Kafka observed in his Diary, Dont despair, not even over the fact that you dont despair. People exist as robots within a world of no win politics fortified by political structures that have either outgrown their usefulness or graphically and tragically proved their inherent inadequacies. By old religious traditions that subverted a message of denying Church by preaching the personal and interior nature of the Kingdom of Heaven, and the State and family by advocating a higher allegiance to individual conscience continue as unabashed as if nothing had happened at all. And in answer, nothing changes. Anton La Vey noted that, "There is nothing inherently wrong with fascism, given the nature and needs of the average citizen... Now it s not so much a case of avoiding fascism, but of replacing a screwed up, disjointed, fragmented and stupefying kind of fascism with one that is more sensible and truly progressive." And Anton was many things, but never a fool. He also opined that the best street cleaner was a riot-gun and there are few that would quibble. Turning against themselves they live alone and vicariously with others. They have allowed themselves to become prisoners in our mythological penitentiaries amid the bright-lights and dark corridors of their cheap and nasty psyches. If viewed objectively, Satan does not need to buy souls. The crowds are drip-fed belief systems, pointless choices and hollow opportunities. From radios, televisions, print media, billboards and the accepted agenda of the day, they exist in a constant state of boredom. Fashion experts assist psychopaths in both politics and big business. Words as empty as the hearts that speak them, hardly affect the masses any more. They exist in a universe of suspicion. Their jobs are tenuous; their comatose lives as artificial as their prejudices and their alienated futures mostly short-term. Its not that the true nature of what has and is being offered has changed or wasnt obvious all along. Just get another beer, turn down the lights, heat your packaged dinner and watch the flat-screen colour and movement of compliant simplicities. Your parents could not think of a number so they gave you a name. But the State has assigned you a number for your pettiness and you will work until you drop! Samuel Adams said it best at the Philadelphia State House on the 1st of August 1776, If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Nobody listened then either, except initiates of the precursor to the (Satanic) Alpha Lodges. We believe in the law of the Aeon, which is sacrifice and in the letting of blood. Its the only doctrine to which the masses have ever been faithful, that and the aesthetic of disgrace. A disguised post-modern Satanic Eugenics rests on the superiority of those who know that they are above the herd, which they view with revulsion and is reflected in the indignation of their policies for any form of commitment to anything wider than themselves - to the point of trivializing life itself. One wing of the Hospital helps infertile couples; the other unit terminates foetuses. Cloning is not required as a trip around any Metropolis will prove. The condition of admission is an old school tie, a proper handshake, mobile phone, a credit rating and some proof from the government that you exist. The herd continues a hallowed tradition of pious fear both of life and death. They light candles but they never really kiss. It is not hard to find them refracted through the stained glass grotesque caricatures of spirituality, the sound-byte vomit of politics, the mathematical facelessness of plastic statistics or in the quietest moment of the night.

Their politics rest on tribalism, their social systems resemble a clique of High School Prefects not an open system where a vote actually means something. Next time you are standing in a queue imagine a world where the government operates everything; where Committee delegates organise everything; where the information is edited, cutting through the lines of least persistence and where equality of outcome ensures the finality of its long-term results. Its not that hard. We continue to organize it! What God can create man can destroy! We exist in an Age with more promises than perils, more opportunities than obstacles, with better health care, communication and affordability, yet they silently await the Mushroom clouds and for the smells of death to capture the planet like never before. They are as compliant as sheep to the slaughter. The Lord is my shepherd Their fears keep them together, huddling and overwhelmed by our prospect of the inevitable! Satanists believe that the fear inspired by the atomic bomb and other weapons yet to come will be so great that everyone will refrain from using them . . . (Material deleted) It will mean the division of the world among 2 or 3 vast superstates, unable to be overthrown by any internal rebellion. Their structure will be hierarchic, with the Satanic caste at the top and outright slavery at the bottom, and the crushing out of liberty would exceed anything the world has yet seen. Within each state the necessary psychological atmosphere will be maintained by a complete severance from the outside world, and by a continuous phoney war against rival states. Civilizations of this type will remain stable for thousands of years. Have no fear! Not contentment, but more power; not peace at all, but war; not virtue, but proficiency The weak and ill-constituted shall perish: first principle of our philanthropy. And one shall help them to do so. What is more harmful than any vice? Active sympathy for the ill constituted and weak Christianity I am the Power! I am the Glory! I am another God! NOTES: The Order of the Toilet The Order of the Toilet is a traditional left hand path initiatory body whose members adhere to the largely neglected latrine doctrines of the Vama Marga. Order members are encouraged to engage in Bathroom practices as often as possible and no less than daily. The teachings and ordeals of the Outer O.o.t.T. are divided into the categories of the Champagne and the Caviar initiations. The Order of the Toilet seeks to inculcate within its membership and the wider world, a cultivated love for and re-establishment of the hitherto secret magick of the night-soil tradition of the Western Sinister current. The Mysteries of the Menses and of the Vomit as well as those of Spit and swallow are all taught within the white-tiled splendour of our Orders numerous disinfected Temples. The Order of the Toilet asks young women (sixteen years and over) who wish to dedicate themselves to the urinary and faecal curriculum of the O.o.t.T. to forward an up to date medical certificate as to sexually transmitted disease and a full frontal naked and autographed photograph of themselves to the Outer Head of the O.o.t.T. together with a five-hundred word essay explaining their understanding of the latrine doctrines. The Outer Order of the Toilet recognises the following Grade attainments: 1.Toilet Goddess She holds the jewels on Her cruel hands. Her nails are lacquered in love. Her adorations are screams. 2. Piss Princess Hers is the Golden Shower that falls upon the Magus, that He may be washed and made enlivened. Her weapon is the Cup. 3. Princess of the Porcelain Hers is the glamour of redolent movements in the night and the erotic passing of

wind. She is an ordained Priestess of The Third Eye and Dark Pathway. 4. Dominatrix of the Cubicle She offers Her Chalice and opens Her Back-Door. She bedaubs and cleanses those who offer up themselves. Her tool is the wand. 5. Mistress Her weapon is the Whip, for She is girt with a sword. Her principal enchantments are Her smile and inventiveness. 6.Vampyress. She redeems with Her blood, for Her weapon is the stiletto. She communicates Her spells orally. Your word is Her Coin. Interested parties are advised to forward all requisite material and/or correspondence to The Order of the Toilet at ............ (deleted)....... Video: Scariest Satanic Childrens Programme Ever... 9 Min 27 Sec 5th January 2009 - 1.41am Jarrod sent a message using the contact form at http://loveforlife.com.au/contact. Please check this video out. If you could link it it would be great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9joShbPI2I4 - Scariest Satanic Childrens Programme Ever - 9 Minutes 27 Seconds - Satanic cartoons and programs on children s channels around the globe. Illuminati hand signs and the coming new Luciferian religion. IN ALL THESE LADY GAGA VIDEOS (AND LYRICS) BELOW NOTICE THE BLATANT ANCIENT EGYPTIAN IMAGERY AND SYMBOLS PORTRAYED BY THE ESTABLISHMENTS SATANIC CULTS/SECTS INCLUDING THE DEPICTION OF RITUAL, [Note: what does GaGa mean? Is the has lost their brain power (ga ga) morality?] Lady Gaga Paparazzi 2009 MTV Video SEXUAL, ABUSIVE AND SACRIFICIAL BEHAVIOUR. word "gaga" not used to describe someone who and with it their sense of right, wrong and Music Awards - The Last White Pop-Star Ritual

Sacrifice Before........ 4 Minutes 20 Seconds..... Lady Gaga s Shocking MTV VMA 2009 Fashion - 1 Minute - Lady Gaga wears five outrageous outfits at the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards. Song: Lady Gaga - Bad Romance - 5 Minutes 8 Seconds Song: Lady Gaga / Poker Face - 3 Minutes 41 Seconds - Watch video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPaSQ7xOhg or here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_de3C3Pkb8Q Song: Lady Gaga - Just Dance - 4 Minutes 7 Seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Abk1jAONjw - Lady Gaga is an iIluminati puppet and her videos are riddled with occultic, satanic, illuminati & freemason/masonic symbolism!!! When you think about her target market being young kids and her songs such as pokerface (about oral sex) and lyrics like "I wanna take a ride on your disco stick" (penis), you can see that there are exterior forces working to seduce young vunerable minds through her songs with perversion and occultic influences. People need to wake up and see that her music is simply not bubblegum pop and there is a dark message in her music. PROOF Lady GAGA Worships SATAN!!! (Illuminati Girl) - 2 Minutes 32 Seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CplS_O0A-KQ LADY GAGA IS A SATAN WORSHIPPER - SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE - 1 Minute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeVKjSWCPJc - U NO IT GAGA! Lady GaGa - Poker face (Hidden Message) - 44 Seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9go-FPaIig - All Rights Reserved by Lamb of God, Lady GaGa, and System of a Down. I just figured it sounded a little strange when

the chorus came up on the radio. F*%@ Her Face - Lady GaGa Pokerface - Lady Gaga Hidden Swearing!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG6mwufHgeU - 3 Minutes 24 Seconds - Hidden Swearing I found in the song. Please Comment Rate Subscribe and visit my website at: http://irishleprechaun30.webs.com Lady GaGa Paparazzi hidden message - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ4gFgpcTYo - 4 minutes - Well here is hidden messages within the song Paparazzi by Lady GaGa idk I was just bored but please subscibe to my videos I will make more soon ok maybe a couple more and tell me in my comments what songs you would like for me to do ok? bye :D ALSO PLEASE CHECK OUT THESE POSTINGS Great Pyramid Of Sydney - M5/M7 Interchange Connects Sydney With NWO Playground & Head Office Of Southern Highlands & Canberra http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/10/24/great-pyramid-sydney-m5m7-int... Invasion Of Australia And New Zealand? By Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life - 30th November 2009 http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/11/29/invasion-australia-and-new-ze... From a friend.......... : Where Were You?: http://124.217.251.89/~loveforl/media/Where%20Were%20You%20-%20Blackbox.... - 4 Minutes 9 Seconds Top-Secret Spy Plane Was Used In The Hunt For Missing State Government Minister Tim Holding ABC News - 2nd September 2009 http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6822 Morgellons Disease Is Silicone Nanotechnology! - It Is NOT A Parasite - Research How Polymers Are Being Used For Chemtrails http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/12/27/morgellons-disease-silicone-n... The History Of An Underground World - An Introduction To The Thesis Methodology & The Literature by Marijuana Australiana http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/12/22/history-underground-world-int... Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part Nine - Letter To Pru Goward MP From Arthur Cristian 15th December 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 The Way of Love Or The Way Of Commerce by Arthur Cristian - Love For Life - 26th December 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/12/26/way-love-or-way-commerce-arth... A Girl Talks To The Birds by Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life - 11th October 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6964 A Do No Harm Community "KINDOM" Motherland In The Southern Highlands In Between Sydney & Canberra 26th December 2009: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7095 All the best Arthur Cristian Love For Life The Hidden Secrets Of The Alpha Course by John D Christian Book Exposes Illuminati "Alpha Course" The Hidden Secrets Of The Alpha Course by John D Christian by Nancy Thomson 30th December 2009 From Henry Makow s Website henrymakow.com A book available online, "The Hidden Secrets of the Alpha Course" by New

Zealander John D. Christian exposes the insidious Illuminati Alpha Course as occult indoctrination posing as an introduction to Christianity. "Alpha" is being used in over 150 countries encompassing 49 different languages. It has infiltrated the homes, schools, universities, business, hospitals, prisons, churches and even the military. Since London is known to be the headquarters of the occult, it is not surprising that the Alpha originated there. In 1970 an English cleric, Charles Marnham, devised a four- week series of lessons for non-churchgoers and new Christians. In 1981, Nicky Gumbel, a former barrister of Holy Trinity Brompton, extended the course to 8 weeks. This is how the fastest growing ecumenical evangelization program in world history began. Alpha presents itself as a "new beginning" and its course structure became a tool for church growth and indoctrination. Videos and tapes, specially produced by the speakers are based on the book titled Questions of Life. This book sets out the structure and content of Alpha. Group sessions included weekly suppers and discussions, culminating in a "Holy Spirit Weekend Away." Hailed as a means to bring people to a personal salvation, the Alpha course does this without preaching the Gospel. The Holy Spirit Weekend Away, which is mandatory, is actually a thinly disguised devil worship experience. Alpha s Questions of Life book, the basis of the whole course, is the structure used to pervert the Gospel. In addition to the "Holy Spirit Weekend," the Alpha Course uses mind-control encapsulated and propaganda to sway the innocents. EXPLOSIVE GROWTH In just over 20 years, the Alpha system is growing like wildfire in Protestant and Catholic churches. Marriage courses, Alpha in the Workplace, and 80 percent of all prisons and universities in the UK now run Alpha. There were 8,142 Alpha courses running in over 7,300 all denomination churches in the UK alone. The number of churches in the U.S. using Alpha is growing faster than any other country. Growth is a very important factor in this system. It s not surprising therefore that our mega-churches such as Rick Warren s PURPOSE-DRIVEN Saddleback Church are involved. The true purpose behind the PURPOSE DRIVEN CHURCH AND LIFE is the establishment of a final One World Religion. Key advisers from all over America gathered in London in 2003 to report on their plans to implement Alpha into the U.S. churches. The congregation and friends of Holy Trinity Brompton financed the Alpha development, and resource courses were sold at a profit. Since the goal was to involve the whole world in their project, Alpha International was founded in 2001. Capitol investment became worldwide, and was headed by a Jewish banker, Ken Costa, Chairman of Alpha Partners. This banker just happened to be Vice Chairman of UBS -Warburg, London. UBS stands for Union Bank of Switzerland-Warburg. The banking firm of Walburg has long been linked to the giant international Marxist Rothschild banking conglomerate based in the City of London. Isn t it strange that Warburg would be running a Christian organization? ILLUMINATI BANKERS The book contains extensive information about the Illuminati bankers and their Satanic predilections. Our Federal Reserve System had as its prime mover the late Mr Paul Warburg whose brother was involved with the international banking house of Kuhn, Loeb that included Jacob Schiff . The Schiff s are the oldest contemporary Jewish family

dating back to 1370. These men, besides implementing our Federal Reserve System, helped found the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland that is scheduled to become the World Bank. The huge Rockefeller Manhattan Bank united with the Chase Bank controlled by Kuhn, Loeb. Then the Rothchild/Warburg took over control of this bank. Many are under the false impression that banking conglomerates J.P. Morgan and Rockefeller are American. They are not. Rockefellers owned a small portion of their bank and J.P. Morgan was founded in London. "British" control of our banking system dates back to the original founding of the Virginia Company. Books authored by the Warburgs contain communist propaganda. James Warburg was a member of Franklin Roosevelt s Brain Trust, masterminded Eisenhower s presidential campaign, and was chief financier of the United World Federalist World Government movement. Communism is the end product of apostate Christendom-both Catholic and Protestant. All "New Age" Bibles were produced by 2 English professors who were Communists and Christian Socialists. Bibles promoted by the Alpha library are these: The Bible for Today, The Contemporary English Version and the NIV. These are actually Communist versions based on corrupt text. Fabian Socialism is linked to a "Christian Socialist" organization. The "war on terrorism" is a classic British Fabian Socialist strategy. Inflict a series of "terrorist attacks" against a targeted population, use reaction from the attacks to justify the solution--i.e. to implement a police state over the region. Fabians acknowledge the principal tenet of Marxism, the abolition of private property. On August 15th 1995, Russia and Boeing signed a contract to develop the first module of the new Alpha International Space Station. Massive sums of money by the U.S., Russia and the European Space Agency have been spent. Scheduled for completion in 2006, we are told the International Station is just "a scientific space laboratory." Alpha MIRCAL lasers were being developed at White Sands Missile Base in 1985. Some speculate that the Alpha MIRCAL lasers could be used for mind control purposes in connection with the International Space Station. ------------------Thanks to VM for sending this information. John D. Christian s latest book is The Green Prince and the 4th Horse of the Apocalypse : Another critique of Alpha Course - First Plumbline Apologetics - False Teachers: Dr Nicky Gumbal and another critique - The Alpha Course by Chris Hand - Is the popular Alpha Course leading people astray? Scribid.com - Download/View This Book "The Hidden Secrets Of The Alpha Course" by John D Christian - 351 A4 Pages - 44MB File Size Despatch.cth.com.au/Books - Download/View This Book "The Hidden Secrets Of The Alpha Course" by John D Christian - 43.89 MB - 344 A4 Pages Despatch.cth.com.au/Books - Office XP Version Of This Book "The Hidden Secrets Of The Alpha Course" by John D Christian Link to this posting: http://www.henrymakow.com/book_exposes_illuminati_alpha.html See other articles on this subject: The Alpha Course by Chris Hand - Is Alpha Leading People Astray?: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/01/02/australian-satanism-australia... Dangerous Deceptions of Dr Nicky Gumbel & Dangers of Alpha C: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/01/02/australian-satanism-australia... What is Alpha?: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/01/02/australian-satanism-australia... Alphas Road Leads To Rome:

http://loveforlife.com.au/content/10/01/02/australian-satanism-australia... Sexual Debauchery: Instrument of Satanic NWO by Jeff Jefferson Sexual Debauchery: Instrument of Satanic NWO By Jeff Jefferson www.henrymakow.com January 4, 2010 A recent billboard campaign from the designer, Calvin Klein, has caused a stir. The ad features youths engaged in group sex on a couch. The scene depicts a topless girl (I intentionally say girl, not woman) lying on top of a shirtless boy whose head rests on the lap of another shirtless boy. She is kissing the boy that is sitting.. Another shirtless boy lies on the floor in front of the others. The sexual messages that this image transmits are very obvious. Everyday, the average person is bombarded with sexual images like this. What is striking about the Calvin Klein ad is that it depicts people that are quite young. From many of the comments that I have read on news-blogs, the outraged are in the minority. In fact, most of the comments are directed towards calling the outraged "prudes." What does this say about a society that defends the sexualization of its youth? Such a society has lost its moral compass. Of course, this situation has been established incrementally over many years. There has been a long running, concerted, effort to slowly drag western society into a state of depravity. The conspirators often target children and teens because they are at an age where impressions have long lasting consequences. Hitler was well aware that to bring about future realities, one must capture the minds of the young: as he stated in Mein Kampf, "Look at these young men and boys! What material! With them, I can make a new world." A new world is exactly what is in the making. Just when people have become numb to the idea of students putting condoms on bananas in public schools, the conspirators have stepped up their assault on the minds of children. In the U.S., President Obama s Safe School Czar, Kevin Jennings, is a founding member of a group known as GLSEN (Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network). In April of 2005, GLSEN organized events at high schools across Massachusetts to promote tolerance. In at least one high school, copies of "The Little Black Book - Queer in the 21st Century"," which discusses very explicit sex acts along with a directory of gay bars, were distributed to students middle school age and older. http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/black_book/black_book_inside.h... At another conference, GLSEN handed out "fisting kits" along with detailed instructions on how this act is performed. http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/12/fistgate-ii-high-school-stu... Currently, GLSEN is promoting a list of books that they recommend schools use to educate students from grades K-12. The stated purpose of these books are to promote tolerance, etc. The children and young teen characters in these books are depicted engaging in various sex acts with other children and adults. Sample excerpts from these books can be found here: http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/12/breaking-obamas-safe-school... Hiding behind the faade of tolerance education, these N.W.O. conspirators are exposing young minds to sexual depravity. Much of the material deals with objectifying one s sex partner: random indiscriminate sex, fetishes, sex between children and adults, etc. From these stories, students can conclude that people are no longer potential companions with thoughts and feelings with which one can

form a solid lasting relationship; instead, people become sexual objects, pieces of flesh to be used to gratify oneself. Everyone and everything is fair game. Sex is fetish. We are all predators. The Calvin Klein billboard captures the essence of this state of mind. The girl is an object to be used by the three boys. One gets the sense that if she were not there, the boys would be using each other. But the real shock is in how average people have become immune to the image. This is the result of so called "tolerance" education. What passes for tolerance is really a guise for erasing instincts which distinguish between healthily and sick, good and evil. There is nothing prudish about decency. There is nothing prudish about wanting to protect your children from sexual images and ideas that they expose them to exploitation and debauchery. Instead of teaching children about "tolerance," they need to be taught love and respect for other people. They need to be taught that sex without love and respect is, in essence, just beating off with a helper. Link to this posting: Home/Front Page Of Henry Makow s Website 4th January 2010: http://www.henrymakow.com and is permanently located here: http://www.henrymakow.com/_by_jeff_jefferson.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Comments for "Sexual Debauchery is Instrument of Satanic NWO" - Taken From Henry Makow s Website Rick said (January 6, 2010): About 18 months ago, I moved to a very small town on the west coast of Florida. As a divorce father, I wanted to spend more time with my daughter. The first few things I saw, when I went to pick her up in school, were plain shocking. As a sixty four years old male, I thought I had seen it all. One day, as I was waiting in my car, with twenty-thirty other parents waiting in line in their respective cars, we all saw two girls around 13-14 years old, holding hands and kissing each other passionately right in front of everybody. What I saw next, was even more shocking, these "tolerant" parents, between 25 and 45 years old, did not flinch. What we were watching, was a perfectly "normal" scene of two very young girls kissing each other in a very sexual manner."What s the big deal", they say. The depravity in our society and around world, is wayyy out of hand and no sign of curbing it any time soon. Simply put it...depressing and there is nothing I can do. The world will accuse me of not being "politically correct" and will be charged with a "hate crime". I am thankful, my time is almost up. -------------------------------------------Tony said (January 6, 2010): All the official hype about "tolerance," including the attempts to force tolerance of evils by law such as those of queers and lesbians, is to try to hide from people the simple fact that intolerance of all things evil is a prerequisite of right order. Intolerance of evil used to be fundamental in Churchianity as it remains in real Christianity. Today real Christianity thus retains right order while much of Churchianity, preaching tolerance of anything and everything, is in chaos. It probably sounds strange to the brainwashed but toleration of evil is itself evil while intolerance of things evil and of just plain wrong doing is a positive good. The whole purpose of trying to "educate" conscience out of the youth is so they can t see this obvious truth and/or discern the difference. However, it doesn t take a genius to see what is proper and right and what is improper and wrong. Almost everyone, by human nature, is capable of discerning the difference. Since God left the holy of holies when Christ died on the cross

it has been written in the hearts of all men in lieu of previously having been written on something readable kept in isolation by a small group. Modernists would call this "instinct." -------------------------------------------David said (January 5, 2010): Even my own son and his generation is effected. We all are on some way, if we admit it. As far as I can tell, Islam respects women more than the American West does now. In some ways we have all become "pimps and hoes." In fact, it s cool to be a "pimp or a "hoe" today in America. It would seem that since birth control (including abortion), women have been cheapened to simply objects of our lust in Western Society. The mystery and respect for a woman s body and place in creation has been cheapened. Life in general has been cheapened. Look around you. See any death and destruction? Have we all become just a bunch of cheap sluts giving in to our carnal lust? -------------------------------------------Dani said (January 5, 2010): Well, probably worth mentioning is that Calvin Klein is a homosexual, and was considered by others to be part of the "Gay Mafia." From Wikipedia: "The Gay Mafia or Velvet Mafia is a term used to describe the amalgamation of gay lobby and rights groups in politics and the media. The "Gay Mafia" and "Velvet Mafia" are typically associated with the upper echelons of the fashion and entertainment industries, and the terms are also used humorously by gay people themselves, some looking to David Geffen as the unofficial head. "This "mafia" included Calvin Klein, David Geffen, Barry Diller, Truman Capote, Halston, Andy Warhol, Sandy Gallen, and Jann Wenner. The term was tongue-in-cheek, describing a "powerful social clique, not some truly devious alliance ruling either an industry or our politics."[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Mafia Interesting that once again, a gay man is behind some sort of degrading and/or depraved aspect of pop culture in the modern world. The Wiki entry makes sure to point out that this "Gay Mafia" is not a "truly devious alliance ruling either an industry or our politics," but Calvin Klein is indeed a deviant, ruling over the fashion industry. The ads he generates speak for themselves. Most all of those people named ruled over their respective industries at one point. That s exactly why they re called the gay "mafia" and not the gay "gathering of harmless men." Abercrombie and Fitch is another one with the controversial fashion advertisements featuring sexualized youths. They might be worth adding to your article. (A page full of Google images using the search phrase "Abercrombie and Fitch controversial ads" http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=abercrombie%20and%20fi... - Dani -------------------------------------------Robert said (January 5, 2010): This is the accomplishment of goals expressed in Marx s COMMUNIST MANIFESTO, which included the abolition of the family and keeping of "women in common". There was no provision for "men in common" or for allowing women to opt out of the scheme (think about this). Communism didn t end with the fall of the Berlin Wall; the "Soviet bloc" had became redundant because the "free world" was seen as having passed beyond the tipping point in favour of communism. Incidentally, this attitude toward women, and people in general, was earlier expressed by Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati. People have no idea of the pedigree of the ideas that have been inculcated in them by the mass media and state-imposed "free education". -------------------------------------------Dan said (January 5, 2010):

Anton LeVay (Andrew Levine) said sleaze first slipped into the mainstream American culture through little ads in the backs of comic books, low budget science fiction and horror movie kid s matines and drive in movies. Real vice has always been around - on the other side of the tracks -but was kept strictly clear of families, women and children, and decent men. Males weren t exposed to sleaze much till military service away from home. The percentage of men hooked that way was low and culturally it was considered low class until after WWII. But I m preaching to the choir, you remember the 50 s and early 60 s and the new father and son rite of passage when dad honored the son by handing

down his first used Playboy magazine. In a 1990 Rolling Stone interview LeVay gloated of how quickly a small army of incinerate Devil worshiping hack back lot film makers, cartoonists, pulp fiction writers and warehouse district publishers had spawned and mainstreamed the multi-billion dollar sleaze industries which turned American culture into the most depraved since Sodom. But he opined that the deviant s thrill of breaking dangerous taboos was lost with legalization and social obliviousness to the criminality of sin. He admitted at 60 being incredibly bored with piles of writing naked women at Black Masses, preferring to spend days alone in his basement Grotto - a reproduction of a sleazy waterfront 1940 s sailor s bar populated by mannequins he meticulously clothes as prostitutes and the other sordid denezins of the urban underworld alleys in the urban bad side of town . The Calvin Klein billboard is pornographic, iconographic glimpse of anonymous flesh for whom lust is their only raison d etre. In pornographic images no relationship leading to the magic moment exist and neither do consequences. This image is also homosexual: the girl is boyish with no mane of long hair and just a hint of breast, which is the only clear indication it s not a 14 year old boy, and that s intentional. I witnessed the fruition of LeVay s work externalized in Austin Texas during the 1990 s where hordes of college students and college dropouts partied nightly on 6th street and the central city. But the result of any wide open overstimulated environment was emasculated young men and young women frustrated by the effect of their over-sexualization. The sexual externalization of females and over stimulation of males results in an odd power exchange - the men become submissive and the women become alienated and frustrated with the lack of male spiritual strength. The Supreme Court has been quietly setting up the law to protect the perpetrators. The recent hate law effectively criminalizes parental defiance this tolerance curriculum. But parents CAN get rid of all their televisions, video games, and quit putting computers in their kid s rooms, quit providing them with digital phones, blackberries and iPods. If at all financially possible put their offspring in private school of the parent s own choice. This must be done AT ONCE. -------------------------------------------Sevak said (January 5, 2010): Here is a link to a video which may give some more insight into why the illuminati have some much sex in society. http://www.disclose.tv/members/action/viewvideo/36492/JANET__amp__STEWAR... -------------------------------------------Manu said (January 5, 2010): Dora [below]: Whatever happened to the beauty of women having some self-respect and the chivalry of men. This can only be kept if a nation remains steadfast in its effort to remain civilized and moral. The forces of evil are always pushing for degeneracy and decay to be able to exploit the corpses of the civilizations they plunder and

destroy. The world needs America today more than ever, we need the brave man and woman of the United States of America to rise up with courage and fearless of death to overthrow the cabal of vipers that are menacing to impose unto us a world we do not want. We the world need America to unplug themselves from the nefarious indoctrinating media and wake up from its slumber to lead In the real war that is being waged, not against Islamic terrorists, but against the conspiring forces behind the curtains who have been profiting from this orchestrated conflict between humanity. Here in Europe most people are oblivious, I see little chance that a real revolution against the globalists could be started from here, but Im certain that in America there are still patriots who carry the in their blood the DNA of those who fought for real liberty against tyranny and were victorious. Theres a lot of us out here waiting for the leading call to give up our lives for the improvement of earth and the fulfillment of Gods plans for Humankind. But while America remains a world military power, we need you to wake up and revolt against the mandates of wickedness, surely everyone who is on the side of goodness, decency and civilization will quickly join your efforts afterwards. It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Man can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Man? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own. -------------------------------------------Brian said (January 5, 2010): Hello Henry, I am really enjoying the pieces you are posting written by other concerned readers, and this latest one is right on the money. Our society is being debased on a daily basis. Are we being reduced to the level of dumb animals as some form of perverse entertainment for the high level Luciferians that run our world? Is this happening in order to make us more manageable for them? Huxley wrote about all this back in 1931. A society of weak minded drones, whose only aspiration is to feel pleasure, is a society that will be easily controlled. All one must do is to keep providing them with the pleasure that is their one and only goal. The population of America, for the most part, has been reduced to this sad level. It will only keep getting worse with each new generation. And it isn t just people who have no formal education either. I don t want to get on my high horse, but it is hard to believe the level of stupidity of the average high school graduate today. Most of the young college grads I ve met aren t much better. It s practically impossible to get them to converse about anything more heady than the latest episode of Lost or who will win this Sunday s football game. All of this was planned, of course. God help America. ALDOUS HUXLEY S BRAVE NEW WORLD by Anthony Astrachan excerpt THE CHEAPENING OF SEXUAL PLEASURE Sex is a primary source of happiness. The brave new world makes promiscuity a virtue: you have sex with any partner you want, who wants you- and sooner or later every partner will want you. (As a child, you learn in your sleep that "everyone belongs to everyone else.") In this Utopia, what we think of as true

love for one person would lead to neurotic passions and the establishment of family life, both of which would interfere with community and stability. Nobody is allowed to become pregnant because nobody is born, only decanted from a bottle. Many females are born sterile by design; those who are not are trained by "Malthusian drill" to use contraceptives properly. SATANISM IS REAL AND IT RUNS THE WORLD by David Icke Friday, 15 January 2010 SATANISM IS REAL AND IT RUNS THE WORLD By David Icke The David Icke Newsletter Goes Out On Sunday Frater 616 mentions a man with the Illuminati-Satanic code name of Pindar, who he had worshipped as the true father of the statutory heir. Pindar has featured in my books going back to The Biggest Secret and he is a Satanist operating at the highest levels of the global cabal. Satanism is run as a strict heirachy based on bloodline and the perceived power of the demonic entities that the advocates allow to possess them. In many ways, the demonic heirachy is reflected in the human heirachy of Satanism. Satanists are vehicles for demonic entities (often reptilian in form) to manipulate human society. The rituals can also create an energetic doorway or gateway between vibrational realities that allow the entities to manifest in our world of visible light. I have spoken with a number of people over the years who have described how reptilian and other demonic entities manifested before them during rituals and how participants shifted from human to reptilian form in the same energetic environment. Satanism at its highest levels is also designed through the rituals and the manipulation of energy to imprint its low-vibrational mind-patterns into the waveform fabric of our reality. As the death bed confession document says: What most people do not realise is that Satanism is a ritually based practice and that this repetition has over time left strong impressions upon the Morphic Field! This is the sea of energy (information) in which we all live and if you want to manipulate every fish at the same time, what do you do? You manipulate the sea. Link to this posting/article: http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/30936/48 Copyright David Icke, 2010. All Rights Reserved. (Note: This newsletter, along with others going back to 2005, is available to view on www.davidicke.com by logging in and clicking on "newsletter archive" on the left-hand side menu) The David Icke Newsletter, January 17th, 2010 SATANISM IS REAL ... ... AND IT RUNS THE WORLD Hello all ... It was very early on in my journey of research that I realised the importance to the manipulating cabal of what we know as Satanism - human and animal sacrifice, blood-drinking rituals and the worship of deeply malevolent entities that operate just beyond human sight, or visible light . As the years went by and I travelled all over the world, it became clear that Satanism is in fact at the very core of the global Control System and has its advocates and assets in key positions of power at all levels of society. There is a document going around the Internet at the moment which claims to be a

deathbed confession by a leading Satanist in Australia, which I have long known is a major global centre for this appalling creed. The document was sent to the website, http://loveforlife.com.au, by someone using the name Aloysius Fozdyke . It purports to be a deathbed confession about the nature of Satanism and the depth of its influence and control throughout society worldwide. The text is said to be the words of Petor Narsagonan - aka Frater 616 - who died on 25th March 2004 . Aloysius Fozdyke wrote: Petor Narsagonan was known by a number of names, at least one of which would be known by many South Africans. He published under a number of non-de plumes. I have no idea of all that he did and I do not wish to know. He is dead. He was found dead by a regular visitor to one of his homes (in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia). His demise had been expected and yet I have heard rumours of peculiar events preceding it. His body was cremated (as is the tradition) in a ceremony that saw the Council of Seven convene in Melbourne; Victoria, Australia on 30th April, 2004.

I have no way of confirming if the document is genuine, but I can say that it fits perfectly with all that I have uncovered about Satanism, its methods and personnel, over the last 20 years. The way Frater 616 describes the Control System, along with its psychological manipulation, is extremely accurate and, at the very least, it has been written by someone very much in the know . Satanism is not controlled by the little people , it is the fiefdom of the rich and famous who mostly become rich and famous because they are Satanists and supported by that network. Why do some people get the breaks in business, politics and the entertainment industry while others with far greater talent do not? Frater 616 writes: Amongst the highest echelons, some are politicians, medical doctors, high ranking police officers, lawyers, advertising gurus, decorated military men, media personalities, fashion models and social workers. Amongst the lowest (usually temporary) ranks are prostitutes, minor drug dealers and a number of High School students. Some operate from the mists. Their victims are drip-fed straight amnesia by an assortment of mind control measures and psychological torture tactics that would leave any normal person numb with the dawning apprehension that things are not as they seem - and they have not been for a long, long time. The most talented amongst them have lifestyles maintained on crime, but lacquered with a thin veneer of respectable professionalism and knowledge. Frater 616 talks about Anton LaVey s Church of Satan in the United States that became famous in the 1960s, and he says that if people want more information about some of its past and most influential members they could do worse than study the late J.P. Morgan ... the Kennedy s (including Jackie), Irving Berlin, Groucho Marx, Elvis Presley, [Christian evangelist] Garner Ted Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Ronald Reagan, Edward Heath, Thomas Plantard de Saint-Claire or a search amongst the bushes. What he really means is search among the Bushes with a capital B . I have been naming the former British Prime Minister, Ted Heath, as a child killing Satanist since 1998, while Thomas Plantard de Saint-Claire claimed to be head of a secret society called the Priory of Sion, made famous by books like The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. Anton LaVey, with appropriate snake, trying to look evil. Prat.

Frater 616 also mentions a man with the Illuminati-Satanic code name of Pindar , who he had worshipped as the true father of the statutory heir . Pindar has featured in my books going back to The Biggest Secret and he is a Satanist operating at the highest levels of the global cabal. Satanism is run as a strict heirachy based on bloodline and the perceived power of the demonic entities that the advocates allow to possess them. The demonic heirachy is reflected in the human heirachy of Satanism. Satanists are vehicles for demonic entities (often reptilian in form) to manipulate human society. The rituals can also create an energetic doorway or gateway between vibrational realities that allow the entities to manifest in our world of visible light . I have spoken with a number of people over the years who have described how reptilian and other demonic entities manifested before them during rituals and how participants also shifted from human to reptilian form in the same energetic environment. Satanism at its highest levels is also designed through the rituals and the manipulation of energy to imprint its low-vibrational mind-patterns into the waveform fabric of our reality. As the death bed confession document says: What most people do not realise is that Satanism is a ritually based practice and that this repetition has - over time - left strong impressions upon the Morphic Field! This is the sea of energy (information) in which we all live and if you want to manipulate every fish at the same time, what do you do? You manipulate the sea. Leading Satanists are professional schizophrenics who appear to be one person when in fact they are quite another behind the scenes and, especially, after dark. I came across a video from 1989 in which a Jewish woman told her story of Satanism on the Oprah Winfrey Show and she spoke of this day time-night time personality switch. What she said included all the major themes that I have heard over and over from people who have experienced Satanism from the inside, and she confirmed that Satanists are pillars of society that no-one would suspect. Her mother was an example, she said: She lives in the Chicago metropolitan area. She s on the human relations commission of the town that she lives in, and she s an upstanding citizen. Nobody would suspect her. Nobody would suspect anybody involved in it. There s police officers involved in it. There s, you know, doctors, lawyers, Indian chiefs involved in it ... I mean, to the outside world, everything we did was proper and right, and then there were the things just got turned around. What was wrong wrong. The woman was referred to as Rachael on the Winfrey - Interview With Rachael - The Jewish nights that things changed, that was right, and what was right was show, (see video: Video: Oprah God Is Satan - Ritual Sacrifice Of

Babies - Worshiping The Devil: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/08/02/21/video-oprah-winfrey-interview... ) but it was later revealed that her real name is Vicki Polin. She is a native of Chicago where Satanism is absolutely rife amongst the ruling classes from which came Barack Obama and his two handlers in the White House, Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel and Senior Advisor, David Axelrod. Vicki Polin said that her family has been involved in sacrificial rituals for generations and Satanism does tend to run in families with the children brought up to follow the parents in the craft . breeders , which I came across

Vicki Polin She described the process of what Satanists call

notes in the document: The most disturbing aspect of the Black Masses held in Sydney was and remains the ease with which victims were and continue to be obtained and the lack of any effective interest by the police (although a number of Police Commissioners from various States were members of the Order). Well, yes, it does help if you control the police while you are stealing and killing children, and this is how they get away with it. Satanists are placed in positions of power in law enforcement, government and local authorities, coroners offices and healthcare and together they hide the evidence and protect the guilty - which include themselves. Politicians are secured either by direct initiation into Satanism or through blackmail. Frater says: Unknown - if not always unsuspected - Infernal Temples exist in every major city throughout the world - Vatican City included! Every hour of every day and every night people are knowingly engaged in Satan s service. Human sacrifice whether ritually and quicker or slowly and degradingly over time - is all harnessed to specific ends. Politicians are introduced by a carefully graded set of criteria and situations that enable them to accept that their victims will be, "Our little secret". Young children sexually molested and physically abused by politicians worldwide are quickly used as sacrifices. In Australia the bodies are hardly ever discovered, for Australia is still a wilderness. Satanists and their lackeys gather every year at Bohemian Grove in northern California where rituals are focused on a 40 foot stone owl that represents the Babylonian god and goddess.

The Black Mass Frater 616 says that babies were bred for their various purposes by "Broodmares" - young unemployed girls who were paid to hand over their "produce". He says that babies were also taken from single girls by promises, for a fee or occasionally, simply stolen , and he describes some of the other sources for procuring children and young people: Often Satanists advertise in free youth culture Street newspapers. This provides them with a constant supply of young teenage hopefuls to recruit or exploit (or both). Often Street-kids are taken in, used and discarded. It is only another missing teenager! Coffee shops, city entertainment complexes and even evangelical youth based churches are still used to this day to lure the innocent and not so innocent, their hearts full of broken dreams from broken homes. This is happening on a mass scale - a Black Mass scale - worldwide. Amazing numbers of children, many millions, go missing every year throughout the world never to be seen again. People don t realise this. They judge the number of child disappearances by the number of such stories that they see on the television news. These represent only a tiny, tiny fraction of children that go missing. Often the police show little interest in investigating, as Frater 616

many years ago. These are women who are used to give birth to foetuses and babies that are used in the rituals. The births are not reported to the authorities because it all happens in secret and so, to the system, they never existed. Vicki Polin told Oprah Winfrey: There were people who bred babies in our family. No-one would know about it. A lot of people were overweight, so you couldn t tell if they were pregnant or not, or they would supposedly go away for a while and then come back ... There would be rituals in which babies would be sacrificed ... When I was very young, I was forced to participate in that - in which I had to sacrifice an infant ...

Satanism is the cement that holds the Control System together and that s why the people involved in global events have no mercy on the target population. Frater 616 goes on: If you doubt the influence of Satanism in the modern world consider the following issues: According to the World Bank, Australia is the wealthiest (or second wealthiest, after South Africa) nation on Earth. No one knows the full extent of Australia s natural resources and yet the living standards of Australians is getting worse each year and while Australians are amongst the most highly taxed people in the world we are quickly heading towards third world nation status. Who owns and controls the Reserve Bank of Australia (hint, it is the same people who own the American Federal Reserve and the Bank of England)? [The Satanic House of Rothschild.] Why do overseas-owned companies pay so little taxation in Australia and why does the Australian government (of whichever political persuasion) allow overseas mining conglomerates to rape our environment and give Australians back next to nothing in return? Why was fluoride put into Australia s water supply and why is it impossible to have it removed? Are you seeing a pattern here? Why is the media of the Free World so heavily controlled and their shamefaced relationship to government so symbiotic? Why have the educational standards of the Western World been forced to "dumb down" (a process accelerated in the 1980s by both Spielberg and Lucas at the instigation of the Australian Alpha Lodge)? Why has multiculturalism been foisted upon the First World (with the exception of Japan)? And who was behind the September the 11th operation? Which country s Intelligence Agency supplied the W.M.D. story which caused the Iraq invasion? (Hint, it was not a Christian or Islamic nation). What is described there in relation to Australia is happening in every country. The Satanic networks control the global banking system and so it is run purely for their benefit. The population spend their lives trying to survive another week, another month, another year, while their toil and sweat makes the Satanists ever richer through bank interest and taxation, among endless other scams. It is the Satanists who orchestrate and declare wars which are, to them, just a mass blood-letting and sacrifice ritual. Frater 616 says: The American Intelligence Services were still involved in funding the occult but their influence was more ingratiating than dictatorial. In any event, many of America s high ranking military men were members of various Satanic Lodges or kindred organizations. The system has no mercy because those who control it have no mercy, no empathy, no conscience. Frater 616 describes how children are tortured and killed Once you have seen a young child crucified or a baby kicked to death you are and can never be the same again . This is the mentality of those controlling the system and it is no longer a mystery why they can act with such callous disregard for human life. The system personified The Satanic networks, using their knowledge of reality, psychology and ritual

magick , are embarked on a plan involving global mind control and emotional manipulation to entrap the thought patterns of the population. A key part of this is to make people give up and surrender to what they perceive is the inevitable . Frater says: Ask yourself whether you have not noticed a number of world tendencies coalescing around "the inevitable". That the social fabric is no longer made of whole cloth and that politicians everywhere are becoming more brazen and extreme in their prescriptions and accomplishments [which]should long ago have left [a]little pause for thought, but it didn t then and doesn t now! The modern media is a pastiche of sex and soft eroticism. The Western world s drinking water has been laced with chemicals that exert powerful effects over time. Rates of depression, suicide, incest and bank interest continue to rise but no one bothers to join the dots! Well, some of us do and more are now doing the same. We need to understand what we are dealing with, stiffen the backbone and look it in the face. A lot of people are being asked to grow up very fast here. What we must not do is fall for the idea that the goals of the Satanists and their Control System are inevitable , or that they are all-powerful. They are not, they are not, they are not - as we shall eventually see. David Icke Insurance Pays Off for Companies With Occult Logos By Glenn Bullock http://www.henrymakow.com January 5, 2010 (left, Westfield Chief Frank Lowy talks shop with office boy, Gordon Brown) This is a story about the occult symbolism in the logos of two prominent real estate companies, Westfield Group and Marriott Hotels, and how both have been the target of "terrorist" attacks from which they profited handsomely, thanks to their insurance. I d like to show you a "cipher included" word code used by the Westfield and Marriott companies; they use virtually the same one. We ll start with the word Westfield. The Westfield Company is the world s largest publicly listed retail property group. They are Larry Silverstein s partner at the World Trade Center. The thing to notice with this logo is the unusual font type. It s unique, no other font type has an f so large it obscures another letter; in this case the dot above the i is removed to make room for it! This is the clue that reveals the cipher; it shows dots removed ! How to apply that to discover the puzzle s meaning is next! We have to find where the dots have been removed and replace them to progress! The W used in Westfield is unlike western W s, because it isn t singularly that! W in that font is also a Hebrew letter that makes two sounds. The letter is called Shin or Sin. Shin/Sin If a dot were placed above the right hand upright the letter is Shin, it makes the Sh sound. If a dot is placed above the left hand upright it s called Sin, and makes the Sss sound. If dots were placed over both we have Shh and Sss. Shh means secret and Ssss represents the serpent, Secret Serpent, but only when dots are replaced. Stick with me it builds! The Hebrew letter Shin/Sin has a special meaning for Jews as its three upright lines represent the three valleys that converge on Jerusalem! The letter Shin/Sin with dots replaced is Secret Serpent of Jerusalem! It goes a little deeper yet! Take a look at the middle letters t f i on the Westfield logo. They join to form the letter M. A central figure in Serpent Cult

(Illuminati) worship is Moloch. The singular use of M represents Moloch. Moloch was worshipped by the Ammonite tribe who lived in Canaan before Moses and Joshua showed up. The following troubled period of years were called "the mingling", during which time the tribes and knowledge of Jews and Ammonites mingled to some degree! This mingled knowledge is an integral part of modern Freemasonry! Here we see the Masonic Pillars of Wisdom, Strength and Beauty forming the letter Shin. So far in the word puzzle we see Secret Serpent of Jerusalem and Moloch, encrypted and represented in the one word, Westfield, but there s a little more yet. The word Westfield refers to a significant Occult place. The Egyptians believed it was bad medicine to have the Sun cast the shadow of the dead Pharaohs over the land in the morning or day; so they always buried them to the west of the Nile, in the west field. The shadow of the dead was then cast over the land at night from the west field, when Horus the Sun was killed each night by his opposite, Set, at Sun-Set. Westfield in the Egyptian tradition means place of the death of Horus and, place of the buried dead. Egyptian traditions are also an integral part of modern Freemasonry, which is the religion of Zionism! Adding together the components of the Westfield word puzzle we get Secret Serpent of Jerusalem place of death/dead, with honor to Moloch a god of Human sacrifice shown in the manufactured M, to whom the sacrifice is traditionally passed through the flames unto Moloch ! The Marriott Company uses virtually the same W type as Westfield, but flipped over to an M for their logo; which includes the encrypted Secret Serpent of Jerusalem . The dot of the i of the Marriott logo is simply omitted to show dots removed. I think the Marriott Family Company and Westfield have attracted some bad luck using these symbols. They must be the unluckiest property owners in the world! Westfield has had so much bad luck: 9/11: New York, WTC complex buildings one, two, seven and Westfield Hotel demolished in terror attack. Silverstein and Westfield pocketed $4.5 Billion from 9/11. 21 Sept 05: Westfield Mall, Perth, Australia: bomb scare. 17 May 06: Westfield, Woden, Australia: bomb scare 21 July 07: Court house adjacent Westfield Centre Derby, England: bomb scare causing evacuation of Westfield premises. 01 March 08: Westfield Old Orchard Mall, Skokie, Illinois: bomb scare. 20 April 09: Westfield Hotel Annapolis: bomb scare during Americas next top model competition. Marriott have also had such bad luck I thought I d list it: 20 Sept 08: Marriott Hotel, Islamabad, Pakistan: blown up. 17 July 08: Marriott Hotel, Jakarta: blown up. 17 July 08: Ritz Carlton Hotel, Jakarta: blown up. Further investigation revealed the Ritz Carlton Company is owned by Marriott! You may think at this stage that the cipher included word code and I are nuts; but you ll have to agree with me that to lose the Twin Towers, Building Seven, the WTC complex Westfield Hotel, the Islamabad Marriott, the Jakarta Marriott and the Marriott owned Jakarta Ritz Carlton, on top of all those bomb scares, is a really bad run of luck between the Westfield and Marriott companies! Just to add to the fun the 2008 Bilderberg group meeting was held in Chantilly Virginia at the Westfields Marriott Hotel. Aren t we lucky it didn t blow up! In February 2009 Westfield owned 119 shopping malls worldwide. One of them is in

my home City Derby, England. The Westfield shopping centre is built on an ancient Druid sacrifice site in the City Centre called "The Spot." Westfield also recently built a Hotel in Cannock, England; it is a huge four sided Owl which represents Moloch of Canaan, Arianrhod the Owl god of the Druids and Minerva of the Greek tradition, it is also built on an ancient Druid sacrifice site! These sites are not thick on the ground! If any person out there knows of any other points of interest or terror incidents involving Westfield, Marriott or other companies they own, please let me know at glenndavbull @ hotmail.co.uk Because they do seem to have a lot of bad luck! Link to this posting/article: http://www.henrymakow.com/occult_logos_and_insurance_pay.html Sunday, 17 January 2010 CONFESSIONS OF A SATANIST By Frater 616 I will go down to The Altars in Hell To Satan The Giver of Life O! Prince of Darkness Hear Me! Our Father which wert in heaven Hallowed be Thy Name In heaven as it is on Earth. Give us this day our Ecstasy And deliver us to evil As well as temptation For we are your Kingdom For Aeons and Aeons. Satanism flourishes beneath the scintillating midnight-blue wet streets and bedevilling phosphorescent lights of Australia s glittering capital cities. Its practitioners are from all walks of life. Although marginal types and those with predisposing personalities have always and will always be important to Satanism and its leaders ends, they are merely tools. Their antinomian influence is now so pervasive as not to be readily noticed. Amongst the highest echelons some are politicians, medical doctors, high ranking police officers, lawyers, advertising gurus, decorated military men, media personalities, fashion models and social workers. Amongst the lowest (usually temporary) ranks are prostitutes, minor drug dealers and a number of High School students. Some operate from the mists. Their victims are drip-fed straight amnesia by an assortment of mind control measures and psychological torture tactics that would leave any normal person numb with the dawning apprehension that things are not as they seem - and they have not been for a long, long time. The most talented amongst them have lifestyles maintained on crime, but lacquered with a thin veneer of respectable professionalism and knowledge. They dress with elegance - timeless and calculating; networking and conspiring in a dream that money alone cannot purchase. Often their personalities have a force that distorts the contours both of judgement and of everyday perception. I cannot mention every name, but I will drop enough clues. The doctors refuse to say exactly how long I have but ... I became involved in the whole sordid business in the 1970 s, a decade noted for

little beyond sartorial bad taste and crushingly optimistic fatalism. The decade that began as a drug-crazed carry-over of the 1960 s soon bequeathed androgynous glam-rock, the Watergate scandal and the shallow opportunism of Rollerball . Science fictionism stalked the streets with a rejected furtiveness bred of cowering beneath the backdrop of the Cold War and dancing with the resurrected agonies of another Asian based imperialistic conflict. I fell through a crack in reality, having deliriously wandered amid the human wreckage and reached certain spiritual conclusions. In short, I do not know how I got there, but I know why. The 1970s were a dismal, incense-fuelled time that only those who lived through it can appreciate. The comprehensive dismissal of values and the adoption of pornography as the aesthetic standard by which all endeavour was to be categorised left its impressionistic fingerprints on everybody s imagination, mine included. I guess that I analysed and reacted differently. That is how I escaped the mundane - through one of western society s fault lines. Credo quia absurdum! I began dabbling in the black arts as an alienated university student. It was 1971 when I attended my first meeting - only to be led into an existence of happiness, sexual excess, acquisitive arousal and comfort. Within a week of meeting my Luciferian mentor I was operating a number of travel businesses in Sydney and flying to international destinations at least four times a year. I had a Jaguar, city apartment, holiday home in the country, access to a yacht on Sydney harbour and women. I was young and considered to be an up and coming star within the shadowy twilight of the Satanic infrastructure. The nether world was at my patent leather-soled feet. My suits were hand-make Italian; the cravats and neckties, Chinese silk and my nymphomaniac maids, French. (They dressed like French maids and would often wake me with a lesbian show.) At that time the United States based Church of Satan was the very public face of a movement that had begun almost a century before and had culled its adherents from the renaissance of magic, which had begun in Germany and flowered in England since the dying years of the nineteenth century. The Church of Satan was one of the front organizations for an ancient body whose very existence had never before been imagined. If you want more information on some of its past and most influential members you could do worse than study the late J.P. Morgan, Drs. James McDonald and Ren Hardy, the Kennedy s (including Jackie), Irving Berlin, Groucho Marx, Elvis Presley, Garner Ted Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Ronald Reagan, Edward Heath, Thomas Plantard de Saint-Claire or a search amongst the bushes. I learnt and reflected the glamour of the black arts: divination, dark meditation, sacrifice, sexual vampirism, talismans, voodoo dolls and sex magic. My life was one of calculated excess and dazzling fulfilment. I smoked handmade Partagas Cuban cigars. I had a personal secretary who was happy to engage my every whim and find like-minded others if I wanted a change or had a colleague I needed to impress. I finished every day with a restaurant meal, bottle of French Champagne and Black Mass orgy of unforgettable and unspeakable delight. The streets were more innocent, the people more nave. The American Intelligence Services were still involved in funding the occult but their influence was more ingratiating than dictatorial. In any event, many of America s high ranking military men were members of various Satanic Lodges or kindred organizations. Often sensitive materials and powerful figures - who operated from the comfort,

safety and anonymity of the dark velvet shadows - were transported on U.S. and Australian Navy ships. Oil tankers were another favourite. Materials (and indeed, people) have been concealed and lost on oil tankers for years. Remember, this was in the Seventies when America s organized crime syndicates were establishing the narcotics markets of the Western World, Australia included. I knew her as Lilith, a High Priestess of an ultra-secretive Black Order of Typhon. Hers was the easy smile of a true neurotic and the body of an Angel. Her long cruel fingernails were enamelled in the chic and expensive titillations of her victims and their fantasies. Urolagnists worshipped at her feet and obeyed her every sadistic command. They were not the only ones. Her clientele included the top-end of town and she frequented the boardrooms and bathrooms of power with an essence of mystery, wealth and alluring sluttiness that won her the attention and influence of very many. I had first met her at a stately home in an inner Sydney suburb at one of the regular Black Masses held to strengthen the bonds of lust, occult knowledge and perversion. There she was indulging the Devil s faithful, teaching and being videoed for the 1970 s black-market that existed in underground extreme porn: bestiality, paedophilia, body wastes and pain. After her services "to the Dark Lord" she told me over a reefer and through exhaustion that she was only seventeen and had met the Master. He had given her a mission. Lilith was a child from one of Sydney s more self-conscious suburbs. Private school educated and with a future in her father s business, she sacrificed herself to help establish what is considered today, by those in the know, to be the most powerful and important Satanic organization in the world. That group comprises some of the most educated, wealthy, corrupt and corrupting people that have ever existed. And they operate out of Sydney, Australia - but their influence is international. It transpired that she had been flown to the United States to be tutored and initiated into what was at that time, Anton La Vey s underground Satanic sisterhood of professional women with an aptitude for carnality and a conscience to match: the Ordo Cave Lupam. Her high school teacher - an Adept in the Black Arts - had spotted Lilith while she was still only a schoolgirl. Like all Satanists, he believed that truth and salvation could be found through the exploration of repressed human needs; that pornography gave joy and joy gave strength. Through his dedication and perverse ability he had secured her co-operation to begin her new education for her assigned task of political intrigue and influential debasement. After completing her education with the O.C.L. Lilith was tutored by an English gentleman who I knew as Pindar [I have highlighted this man in several of my previous books]. I never met him but I worship the true father of the statutory heir. His were the Irish mysteries of degradation and when his name was ever mentioned Lilith would often laughingly sing, ...the rosy red cheeks of the little children . Lilith procured children to satiate the debased lusts of many Satanists. These were taken from single girls by promises, for a fee or occasionally, simple stolen. Babies were bred for their various purposes by Broodmares - young unemployed girls who were paid to hand over their produce . Sometimes this magical pornography was filmed; sometimes children died. Once you have seen a young child crucified or a baby kicked to death you are and can never be the same again. The most disturbing aspect of the Black Masses held in Sydney was and remains the ease with which victims were and continue to be obtained and the lack of any effective interest by the police (although a number of Police Commissioners from various States were members of the Order). This is not to suggest that Satanists are simply perverts or child killers.

The Alpha-Lodge to which I was a member placed a great deal of emphasis upon Magic, both in theory and practice. Demons were evoked and dispatched; sigils made and sacrifice and the letting of blood encouraged. In this regard, many who bask in their own limited knowledge believe that Aleister Crowley is the father of modern manifestations of Satanism, but this is incorrect. Perhaps Crowley is the grandfather of modern left hand path groups, but their stepfather is Peter James Carroll, the founder of the Chaos Magick School. There are a number of reasons for this and the various Black Lodges within Australia have developed from their early twentieth century reliance upon recruiting from fringe Masonic groups, through High Magick in the nineteen twenties, Low Magick in the nineteen sixties and seventies to their current prospective candidates from amongst Chaos Magick practitioners (who are generally young, ambitious, enthusiastic, energetic and destined by their lifestyle choices to the shadowy world of Satanism). A number of up-market Escort agencies in Australia and elsewhere are operated by Black Magicians. Yet brothels and pornography comprise only a small financial part of the International Satanic Empire. Most of the money comes from drugs (the C.I.A.), sophisticated blackmail, money lending and currency trading. Satanists of the highest order are behind a number of wealthy Conservative, New Right Christian Churches and organizations in America. These are some of contemporary Satanism s best cash-flow enterprises (mostly indirectly) and allow mass indoctrination and networking. The aim of the Alpha Lodge remains illiteracy rates in the western world of at least sixty-six percent by 2010 and the destruction of at least seventy percent of the globe s population by the year 2030. All governments count on their sheeple to respond in typical infantile fashions, including unconsciously identifying with a more powerful force - even if it enslaves, brutalizes and humiliates them. Most Australians perform so badly in the role of adult that they rarely achieve complete satisfaction from this process. It is the weak who must tell you they are strong. In this regard, the infiltration of the United Nations by Satanists - which began in the 1970s - has paid off extremely well already, as has the career of Henry Kissinger. It was Henry Kissinger who preposed the use of fundamentalist Christianity to bring about war, firstly in the Middle East and then globally. In this he was aided by a number of American Presidents subsequent to Richard Millhouse Nixon handing over the reins to Gerald Ford - who was always one of ours! As the Headquarters of International Satanism is Sydney, Australia it is not surprising to learn that Norman Lindsay - a former Magus of the Order - is considered a Satanic Saint [Norman Lindsay (1879 - 1969) was a famous Australian artist and writer]. Indeed there are a number of flourishing secret shrines dedicated to him and his memory throughout Australia and the United Kingdom. Every Equinox there are human sacrifices dedicated to him and the subtle but perverted influence his painting and children s literature continues to have. (Similar shrines exist in America under Henry Kissinger s authority but he has altered both the structure and subtle ethos of the American Alpha Lodge Shrines.) It was Lindsay who taught that every political solution leads to more complex and involuted problems. He counselled that the public is not concerned with satanic manipulators but only with petty criminals and little issues which affect their insignificant lives directly. As the status quo is maintained by the masses, it gets heavier the deeper it sinks and the greater its fears. The people cannot succeed or achieve and so must sink deeper and hold on more strongly! The fact that for most people the days repeat endlessly until death relieves them speaks volumes about the (sub-) human condition!

Kissinger refined Hitler s Terror Technique into the more subtle and powerful Tension Technique : building tension in society and then finding a scapegoat. Dark Path adepts do this in insignificant ways until they have the power and ability to move and direct people to more gross and hideous behaviours. In Australia recently, the Business Activity Statement for taxation purposes and the immigration debate have worked exceptionally well. The War on Terror has also been of incalculable international influence (even more so than La Vey s Satanic Bible continues to be). The rhetorical faade for George s Presidency may be Christian, but the plan is otherwise! (And for all of the new arrangements the sheeple have adopted, it was still safer to walk the streets in the Second World War than it is now. This is true of all the capital cities of the combatant nations.) If you doubt the influence of Satanism in the modern world consider the following issues: According to the World Bank, Australia is the wealthiest (or second wealthiest, after South Africa) nation on Earth. No one knows the full extent of Australia s natural resources and yet the living standards of Australians is getting worse each year and while Australians are amongst the most highly taxed people in the world we are quickly heading towards third world nation status. Who owns and controls the Reserve Bank of Australia (hint, it is the same people who own the American Federal Reserve and the Bank of England)? Why do overseas-owned companies pay so little taxation in Australia and why does the Australian government (of whichever political persuasion) allow overseas mining conglomerates to rape our environment and give Australians back next to nothing in return? Why was fluoride put into Australia s water supply and why is it impossible to have it removed? Are you seeing a pattern here? Why is the media of the Free World so heavily controlled and their shamefaced relationship to government so symbiotic? Why have the educational standards of the Western World been forced to dumb down (a process accelerated in the 1980s by both Spielberg and Lucas at the instigation of the Australian Alpha Lodge)? Why has multiculturalism been foisted upon the First World (with the exception of Japan)? And who was behind the September the 11th operation? Which country s Intelligence Agency supplied the W.M.D. story which caused the Iraq invasion? (Hint, it was not a Christian or Islamic nation) The fact is that Alpha Lodge politicians (or political advisors) appreciate that if they pretend to respect the rights of sheeple and fain interest in their concerns, even though most realise that this is a ruse, they will go along with the programmes and policies because it is the line of least resistance. The democratic process allows them to express some of their frustrations, reduces the pain of their pent up depression and aggression while ensuring that nothing changes. You can see the same Representative Democracy political system everywhere it has been implemented. Sheeple always use reason and logic to justify their whims, so the Alpha Lodge initiate is taught to speak in moderation while convincingly offering miracles. It is only a matter of waiting for the media to generate the slogan that the government should do something and the governments - everywhere and of all political persuasions - always will. Australian Satanists have always been at the forefront of high quality videos and D.V.D.s devoted to kiddie-porn . Sheeple are such that although they scream about the importance of justice , it is of no interest unless they are in some

way harmed! Their morality is that of the herd, for the more that sheeple feel isolated yet together, the easier it is for Satanists to reign. Provide the subjects with the forbidden and they feel fragmented, weak, guilty and often worthless - all of which the Master Satanist employs for their own ends. In Australian produced paedophile entertainment certain Avon guard features predominate: sexual frenzy, degrading treatment, filth, coprophilia [getting turned on by shit], torture, rape and death. All of this is carefully crafted and augmented by aphrodisiacs and violence. Often the women involved are far worse than the men - little boys agonised by the cruel fingers, long tapered fingernails, teeth, cigarettes and perversions of ravishingly beautiful and debased female practitioners who are without restraint and have been maddened with heartless pride. Genital torture and castration are a constant theme. I will never forget the heartfelt sobs, desperate pleas, blood, tears and screams induced in many little boys by the agonizing use of alligator-clips, the application of the strap, whip, dildo, knee and the torment of electric shock! Often Satanists advertise in free youth culture Street newspapers. This provides them with a constant supply of young teenage hopefuls to recruit or exploit (or both). Often Street-kids are taken in, used and discarded. It is only another missing teenager! Coffee shops, city entertainment complexes and even evangelical youth based churches are still used to this day to lure the innocent and not so innocent, their hearts full of broken dreams from broken homes. (Thank you Lionel.) Often members who have reached a certain Grade, whose task and Ordeal it is to establish and maintain Outer Temple Teaching Orders as a recruiting ground for the Traditional Satanic Lodges, do so with dazzling results. Candidates are accepted and accessed over the required time for character, imagination and intellect - in that order. Debauchery as a science is taught and maintained by programmes - strict in nature and observance. Rituals are conducted, thought-patterns established, relationships destroyed and dependencies enhanced. Psychopaths are studied and emulated. Some of the deadliest, most effective and disarming assassins are women. Within the Alpha Lodges they are worshipped as embodiments of the Dark Goddess - who is known by many names and is virgin still! [The Reptilian moon goddess is all her expressions, including Lilith.] Currently the Outer Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia is a very highly placed and successful Federal politician - whose Satanic name is Bestia. The Inner Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia is the highest Crown Service operative in the Commonwealth ... (having replaced former Crown Service agent and Greek Princess Eketrini, a.k.a Sheila Fraser). Together and with time, those at the highest echelons of International Satanism believe that there is nothing they cannot achieve. And if you knew even half of what they have already done you would agree. Ask yourself whether you have not noticed a number of world tendencies coalescing around the inevitable . That the social fabric is no longer made of whole cloth and that politicians everywhere are becoming more brazen and extreme in their prescriptions and accomplishments should long ago have left little pause for thought, but it didn t then and doesn t now! The modern media is a pastiche of sex and soft eroticism. The Western world s drinking water has been laced with chemicals that exert powerful effects over time. Rates of depression, suicide, incest and bank interest continue to rise - but no one bothers to join the dots!

What do all of the following people have in common: Norman Lindsay, Sir William McMahon, Garfield Barwick, Lionel Murphy, Rosalyn Norton, Clyde Cameron and Stephanie Bartholomew (a.k.a Abigail)? From where do more Australians get their news and why? What is Michael Aquino s interest in Australia s Pine Gap Facility and why is discussion of the Base s use and purpose inadmissible within Australia s polite society and media? [Pine Gap is a major Reptilian underground base near Alice Springs, operated by both Australia and the United States, and it is one of the key locations for the Echelon spying and surveillance network that includes Menwith Hill in the UK. The late Michael Aquino was US Army officer and mind control operative who founded the Temple of Set as a Satanic church after leaving Anton LaVey s Church of Satan. See The Biggest Secret.] I believe in one Prince, Satan, who reigns over this Earth, And in one Law which triumphs over all. I believe in one Temple Our Temple to Satan, and in one Word which triumphs over all: The Word of ecstasy. And I believe in the Law of the Aeon, Which is sacrifice, and in the letting of blood For which I shed no tears since I give praise to my Prince, The fire-giver and look forward to his reign And the pleasures that are to come! A number of Crown Service agents in Australia were relieved on the evening of 19th December 1967. A number of the President s men in Australia were quietly celebrating as the clock struck midnight on the 11th of November 1975. Both Intelligence Agencies had relations which were still trespassed by the ghost of Dr. Ward. Both reacted to these events because of Australian Satanism, in the first case because H.R.H. Queen Elizabeth II would be saved embarrassments and in the second because Gough Whitlam was not one of them. On this point I am in no doubt, Sir John did his duty to the Princess and Inner Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia. And Sir Garfield explained it! [Gough Whitlam is the only Australian Prime Minister to be dismissed by the British queen in her role as Australia s Head of State. She did this through her Governor-General, Sir John Kerr, amid a manipulated constitutional crisis in 1975. Sir Garfield Barwick, Chief Justice of the High Court, advised Kerr to remove Whitlam. Not being a Satanist is bad for political careers.] Most people do not know that J. W. Howard s first overseas trip, as Prime Minister of the Commonwealth of Australia was to receive his thirty-third Masonic degree, for in matters of his true faith he manifests a decidedly disillusioned romantic apprehension. His is the perfect example of parallel lives and a compliant media well and truly out of their depth. The same could not be said for Harold and his parties and the fact that people were noticing and indeed, Sir William was invited. You have little if any idea of the history, connexions and the network of Australia s Sinister Lodges, the Temples within them or their adherents and puppets. Why are some politicians spectacularly successful and others dogged at every step? How was the New York based public relations firm paid by John for doing such a good job in the ... elections? Has any one bothered to check the Commonwealth of Australia s Department of Treasury records and would they know what they were looking for? I became Outer Head of the Alpha Lodge Australasia in the same year a meteoric rise to power brought a change of federal government with a Prime Minister whose relationship to Satanism was tenuous and pedestrian at best. But then again, he liked to play around and a number of our special people were happy to accommodate him, for a price. He craved respect and understated admiration and received both from us for the efforts he expended. I left the Alpha Lodge - as best as one can - and tried to reclaim a more mundane if no less ingratiating lifestyle. I operated a media company publishing

anti-Christian tractates, political pamphlets and pornographic videos, working for a number of organizations internationally. The extreme rightwing of Britain had recently been infiltrated by a very old and isolated left hand path tradition and this sinister development augured well for the Alpha Lodges (although today, David Myatt is considered more of a Prophet than a representative of the Hebdomadry Magickal System). (While the Order of Nine Angles pursues a more open approach in the United Kingdom and increasingly in the United States of America, in Australia we still work just out of view). The strength of International Satanism continued to increase as its oldest families continued to wither. In the real world, money gives power and those best placed to dictate the money market always win, yet their magnetism and glamour have faded and their futures are more tenuous than at any other time. Their collective days may be drawing to an end. Their most enduring legacies will be the power structures they created and the relationships facilitated. Their funding of diverse groups dedicated to the destruction of Christianity is a story never to be told! (Their most successful recent social campaign was the "Please God, don t let the Priest rape me again!" effort in the late 1980 s to date and the promotion of Lilac Seminaries .) Modern post-1980 Satanism is the result of some hard learned truths and well-practiced procedures. Everyone knows that we are becoming more obvious there are decreasing reasons to hide. The World of High Fashion - always a glittering ephemeral chimera - became an overtly successful recruiting ground for sweet young things with a daring and glamorous nature. Multi-Billionaires increasingly sought the spiritual comfort and insider information the Satanic Alpha-Lodges could provide. What most people do not realise is that Satanism is a ritually based practice and that this repetition has - over time - left strong impressions upon the Morphic Field! This reinforces security and comfort within the left hand paths true adherents! Politically, the libertarianism of Twain that permeated Satanism gave way to the realization that the sheeple do not want freedom. They are happy to build their own pens. Two thousand years of Christianity has left them domesticated, so Satanism began taking to itself rightwing positionings, farther and farther a field. In any event, all bank vault doors swing open to the right! All the leaders are dictators and the sheeple eat from their hand - just the way they like to. Satanism now free of its earlier hallucinations fully accepts the pathetic nature of the human condition, wrapped as it is in the gaudy packages of superstition. Satanism finally managed to infiltrate the major left wing and middle of the road political parties on May Day, 1997. Another group long ago bought the American Congress, so the Alpha Lodges concentrated on the Republican Party and this has paid some very high dividends. Currently the U.S. federal government dances to our tune (a couple of steps removed, if you know what I mean)! Within the left hand path, Satan is the Supreme Prince (the Hierarchy of Hell begins with The Prince). He is The Other , the bright Fire Giver and Illuminator! He is the only God who cares! Satanism is a spiritual Darwinian theory based on predation. Devoted Satanists dedicate themselves and their sex acts to their Dark Lord. Prayers are said, Chants intoned or Invocations recited all as the basis of obtaining the blessings of Hell. Unknown - if not always unsuspected - Infernal Temples exist in every major city throughout the world - Vatican City included! Every hour of every day and every night people are knowingly engaged in Satan s service. Human sacrifice - whether ritually and quicker or slowly and degradingly over time - is all harnessed to specific ends.

Politicians are introduced by a carefully graded set if criteria and situations that enable them to accept that their victims will be, "Our little secret". Young children sexually molested and physically abused by politicians worldwide are quickly used as sacrifices. In Australia the bodies are hardly ever discovered, for Australia is still a wilderness. Overseas, cremation is the favoured method and although the Satanic Alpha Lodges of Australia have access to crematoria when needed, this is surprisingly rare. Believe it or not many bodies are dumped over the side every week in a number of isolated bush land settings. The emerging set of Satanic leaders is young, savvy, competent and heartless. They are masters and mistresses of their emotions and their intellect. Many are involved in business, politics, the legal profession and the arts. They are affluent, mobile and stylish examples to the next generation and therefore to the next generation of Satanists that power is glory, lust is nobility and liberty is the highest ideal of the new world man and woman. They use debasement of their victims as a ritual of power to themselves and their Deities. Often their victims are made to suffer in any number of situations. All of them are dedicated to creating the new men and women of the future and to surpassing the Old Ones . Beginning in Sydney in the late 1980s was a now International Underground Sadomasochist society founded by Satanists. Victims are abused to death in grotesque rituals held in secluded chambers throughout the global metropolis and never-ending suburbs and bewildered housing estates. Although many who attend are unaware of anything except their ability to fulfil special needs and cultivated tastes, all of these gatherings are Satanic in nature and magickal in purpose. This dark, ultra-secretive society has been used to corrupt and destroy; to distil fear and ensure petrified silence! (Remember The Family of South Australia? Ever wondered why so many people conveniently die from electrical fires?) Bodily juices of all descriptions are sacred to Satanists and can be used for magickal purposes. The advent of sadomasochism as an accepted form of expression is due to the efforts of Satanists in subverting normalcy and inverting mainstream Christian values. The S&M Society was used as recruitment ground for some of the most perverted geniuses I have ever met. And with the advent of the World Wide Web, extreme hardcore Bathroom Sex came into its own as a sub-genre to be taken seriously. Today such stars as Alexia Cage (and Her growing number of friends) are enjoying careers that would have been inconceivable but a few short years ago. Indeed many Toilet Sex starlets are committed Satanists and Alpha Lodge members or affiliates. By their presence in the world does the Prince of Darkness achieve his aim of exporting enlightenment into the Objective Universe. Concomitantly, Restroom Magick continues to develop its own left hand path techniques in which the convenience serves as a representation of and chalice unto the Goddess. (By way of only one example, today in co-educational facilities throughout the Western World, Bathroom Sex and flute playing are rampant across all age groups. Thank you High Priestess Monica and White Witch. Fiona). The people of the world are easy to manipulate. Homo sapiens are herd animals, after all! Its all colour and movement when it comes to the masses. Give them an election with no policy choices and for the most part they are happy. Allow their children no real prospect of success, inhibit their natural drives particularly their sex drives; limit their options, coarsen their choices and society (such as it still is) quickly falls apart into pre-determined categories. No families, just weak individuals free to do as they are told.

Satan is a wonderful systems man ! Already there are rampantly individualistic spiritualities spreading throughout the world. Souls and agendas are kidnapped with ease and Luciferian style. Rock and Roll Gods and Goddesses captivate the hearts and minds of the next generation. The boldness of the Black Metal musicians/magicians and the mantras they spread still excite and amaze me - even after my achievements! Advertising continues to chip away at acceptable standards such that nowadays almost anything is realized as being eminently possible. The foreign policy of the world s only superpower is directed from Israel and our work is now running on autopilot. The Alpha Lodge has taken steps to try to ensure that after the next war the Tradition is maintained in the intervening centuries, before civilization, as we know it, begins again. At that time, Satanism will be in the only religion and science. We have secured the texts, books, relics and magickal weapons necessary for Our Dark Lord and I see the storm clouds gathering. Ritual activity is increasing. Social structures are almost totally eroded. The Sheeple gather for their slaughter. Vindex walks amongst us now and very few know (or think that they do). The Other. Beyond that Attracting, Transforming, Forbidden, Essence. Contradictory Defiance: challenging in its purest, answering, archetypal, shape-shifting form. The fascination that creates, nourishes, destroys and redeems. The Prince of the Earth, the Lord of the Air, the Darkness of the Deep, and the God of Fire! The majestic potency, force, presence, power; Magick of the Name of one known by many. Intoxicating. Subversive. Eternal. The Other. That arrogant, inspirational quest and elegant undercurrent to a superior life of overcoming - Everything you have never dreamed of and more than your deepest nightmares. The alarming, awful, sinister, dispossessed delight of the Empowerment of Knowing - The Triumph of Ecstasy reflected in Your Imagination, Honour, Genius and Terror! Rebellion! Liberty! The Other. That banished suspicion and apprehensive silence - trespassing in disguise. A Question and An Accusation - The Fear and Celebration. The Shadow and horror unknown of Life and Death - Of Aeons passed and Potentiality. Of Willing and Becoming and Exalting in this life ... Hail Myself that I Seek to Be HAIL SATAN It is revealed individually To those who can bear it ******************************* May Satan the all-powerful Prince of Darkness And Lord of Earth Grant me my desires. Let there be ecstasy and darkness; let there be chaos and laughter, Let there be sacrifice and strife: but above all let us enjoy The gifts of life! Zazas Zazas Nasatanata Zazas! PART TWO By Frater 616 Law is the product of man. What God can create man can destroy! It is always politics. Even when people obey the law, it is a political decision. Spirituality is a tool. The State has employed it, always.

For Homo sapiens are herd animals. Hate yourself enough and the World hates with you. Freedom is a two-edged sword. Count Hans Kolvenbach [Former head of the Illuminati Jesuit Order] The young woman was barely conscious yet her nipples were bullet-hard. Her inviting, natural sexual aroma interplays with the civet incense and dancing candlelight. The congregation stands in silence as infant children re-enact the pornography they have been taught. Upon the Altar the young woman lays with gaping legs and delicate droplets of urine upon her pubic hair. As the children finish their pre-arranged aping pantomime of degradation, the chanting to the Dark Gods and Dark Goddesses begins. The Altar is always a human body - male, female, alert, drugged, alive or dead. In every case, the Altar is fresh and young. The mechanics of a High Satanic Black Mass are the same as in any theatre designed to re-open psychic gateways, inculcate dedication, glorify, rarefy and idealize spirituality. Only the aims differ. In Satanism, sodomy is preferred because of its magickal effects. The sacramental nature of Ezekiel 4:12-13, II Kings 18:27, Malachi 2:2-3 and Isaiah 16:11 are only fully understood by Satanists. Even abstinence from all forms of satisfying and normal sexual congress is used to enable the destruction and replacement of old beliefs and standards. Merely to sidestep conventionality still leaves the neophyte with a mass of prejudices, idiosyncrasies, identifications and preferences that give comfort and definition to the personality. By pushing wider the parameters of being and expanding ideas, Satanists experience the inherent transience and contingent nature of all things. The Black Mass - whether High Satanic or Low orgy - achieves this. Any form of bizarre sexual congress is explored and encouraged because atrophied tastes need stronger stimulation. Children, the elderly, the mentally retarded and desperate are used at satanic ceremonies throughout the world. The left hand path caters for all tastes and responds to all needs. In Australia and throughout what used to be the Soviet Union, Downs Syndrome pornography is an expanding market and an acquired taste. Approximately one new D.V.D. - like The Gangbang of Mary Mongoloid Series (1998-2001) or Downer Syndrome Follies I-II (2001-2003) - hits the underground market every couple of months. Before that were the still popular Paedophiles Paradise and Toil-art videos. Cutting as it does through all of society; boutique pornography offers many opportunities to the Alpha Satanic Lodges. With the reform and application of the mercantile system to the Western World the opportunities for well organized crime and well-placed puppets burgeoned! "Brothels are built with bricks of religion; Prisons with bricks of law." By misunderstanding the nature of Satan and His spirituality the True Adherents are safe to openly declare their allegiance to the world - which they do! Why did so many of the important people appear to have had well-planned excuses - if not escape routes? Wheels within wheels! To every Temple a God! Since Norman Lindsay s time, the Alpha Lodges have maintained well-organized political affiliations. Senior public servants , career bureaucrats and the diplomatic service have been used to integrate the coming Satanic age - just ask Sir A.G. (Name removed)! Most people are more comfortable asserting their independence than being correct, effective, well off or powerful. They believe, because they have no or very few facts and because their beliefs offer them comfort - mostly the comfort of moral superiority. They use logic, reason, history, law; indeed anything at all to help them follow their prejudices and fulfil their desires. Governments everywhere cater for those people who would rather live on their knees than die on their feet. Politicians did not invent the human condition; they only take advantage of it. The Satanic aristocracy sees the masses as

tools; means by which the ends envisioned may be achieved - individual suffering is irrelevant. The ends are all that matter; the means are chosen based on totally utilitarian and logical decisions. Corruption is endemic but accepted. That Queen Elizabeth II is claiming ignorance of her own governments laws while disdainfully hiding behind her advisors and masquerading her interests behind complex business structures apparently bothers no one. Although the secret selling off of the farm in Australia was thorough it was not slow. People assist their governments to push them to the side of their own lives - Always have, always will! It s the War against Terror; it s the same everywhere. Yet everyone agrees that the streets of the world s major cities are more dangerous now than they were throughout the Second World War! But who cares? History is replete with stories that never get told. How many people know about General Douglas Macarthur s 40 pages Memorandum of Saturday the 20th of January 1945 to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt or the names and rank of the Port Arthur killers? And whatever did happen to the Frogmen of the 19th of December? Viable, truly spiritual Satanism is becoming more overt. This is because of those who went before. And as the schedule works itself, the Alpha Satanic Lodges are growing ever more public. I will not mention names, front-organizations or interests. The time is when these will announce themselves - just like Disneyland! We infiltrated then built the modern media, created porno-film empires, turned Snuff into art and liberated young people. Ours is the obsession of the mystery of darkness! This is our age: The Age of Satanas! Internet sites full of the grossest vulgarity and operated out of Israel are mostly founded upon left hand path philosophies. Take Alexia Cage, for example [I put Alexia Cage in a search engine after reading this and up came www.alexia-shitgirl.com. It is described as a kinky private website into scat piss and vomit with pics and movies . Nice] The number of diplomats or their children who are into scat(ology) is legion, with all the possibilities that brings. [Scatology is sexual acts involving excrement]. Billy S. (name deleted) was one of our better acquisitions - until he died in Sonia s arms. Known behind his back as Billy Browno, A.S.I.O. destroyed the records - as they do for judges, senior bureaucrats, our businessmen s clubs and diplomats. But the average Homo normalis is beyond caring. Provided their bellies are full, their minds empty and their time consumed with frivolous entertainment, Satanists are free to triumph. It took less than sixty years to turn the Western world from war heroes to poofters; from bold, adventurers to crybabies; from devoted couples to divorcees and although never afraid of work in the past, now everyone has a Doctor s Certificate. Chronic apathy bolstered by cynicism litters the economic cul-de-sacs of our society. Literacy is almost gone, television is almost irrelevant, public infrastructure is heritage protected and most are crushed by the foreboding knowledge that tomorrow is another day. The Wand must be bedaubed. The Cup drained. The Sword dazzling. The Disc penetrated. With Fire the Tunnel is penetrated. With thirst the Cup is dazzled. With Air the Sword is drained. With soil the Disc bedaubed. Within the temple in the temple Find here the Mysteries of the mysteries The back passage is the shortest way Turn Water into wine.

On the 21st of July 1913 Franz Kafka observed in his Diary, "Don t despair, not even over the fact that you don t despair". People exist as robots within a world of no win politics fortified by political structures that have either outgrown their usefulness or graphically and tragically proved their inherent inadequacies. By old religious traditions that subverted a message of denying Church by preaching the personal and interior nature of the Kingdom of Heaven, and the State and family by advocating a higher allegiance to individual conscience continue as unabashed as if nothing had happened at all. And in answer, nothing changes. Anton La Vey noted that, There is nothing inherently wrong with fascism, given the nature and needs of the average citizen ... Now it s not so much a case of avoiding fascism, but of replacing a screwed up, disjointed, fragmented and stupefying kind of fascism with one that is more sensible and truly progressive. And Anton was many things, but never a fool. He also opined that the best street cleaner was a riot-gun and there are few that would quibble. Turning against themselves they live alone and vicariously with others. They have allowed themselves to become prisoners in our mythological penitentiaries amid the bright-lights and dark corridors of their cheap and nasty psyches. If viewed objectively, Satan does not need to buy souls. The crowds are drip-fed belief systems, pointless choices and hollow opportunities. From radios, televisions, print media, billboards and the accepted agenda of the day, they exist in a constant state of boredom. Fashion experts assist psychopaths in both politics and big business. Words as empty as the hearts that speak them, hardly affect the masses any more. They exist in a universe of suspicion. Their jobs are tenuous; their comatose lives as artificial as their prejudices and their alienated futures mostly short-term. Its not that the true nature of what has and is being offered has changed or wasn t obvious all along. Just get another beer, turn down the lights, heat your packaged dinner and watch the flat-screen colour and movement of compliant simplicities. Your parents could not think of a number so they gave you a name. But the State has assigned you a number for your pettiness and you will work until you drop! Samuel Adams said it best at the Philadelphia State House on the 1st of August 1776, "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Nobody listened then either, except initiates of the precursor to the (Satanic) Alpha Lodges. We believe in the law of the Aeon, which is sacrifice and in the letting of blood. It s the only doctrine to which the masses have ever been faithful, that and the aesthetic of disgrace. A disguised post-modern Satanic Eugenics rests on the superiority of those who know that they are above the herd , which they view with revulsion and is reflected in the indignation of their policies for any form of commitment to anything wider than themselves - to the point of trivializing life itself. One wing of the Hospital helps infertile couples; the other unit terminates foetuses. Cloning is not required - as a trip around any Metropolis will prove. The condition of admission is an old school tie, a proper handshake, mobile phone, a credit rating and some proof from the government that you exist. The herd continues a hallowed tradition of pious fear - both of life and death. They light candles but they never really kiss. It is not hard to find them refracted through the stained glass grotesque caricatures of spirituality, the sound-byte vomit of politics, the mathematical facelessness of plastic statistics or in the quietest moment of the night.

Their politics rest on tribalism, their social systems resemble a clique of High School Prefects not an open system where a vote actually means something. Next time you are standing in a queue imagine a world where the government operates everything; where Committee delegates organise everything; where the information is edited, cutting through the lines of least persistence and where equality of outcome ensures the finality of its long-term results. It s not that hard. We continue to organize it! What God can create - man can destroy! We exist in an Age with more promises than perils, more opportunities than obstacles, with better health care, communication and affordability, yet they silently await the Mushroom clouds and for the smells of death to capture the planet like never before. They are as compliant as sheep to the slaughter. "The Lord is my shepherd..." Their fears keep them together, huddling and overwhelmed by our prospect of the inevitable! Satanists believe that the fear inspired by the atomic bomb and other weapons yet to come will be so great that everyone will refrain from using them . . . (Material deleted) It will mean the division of the world among 2 or 3 vast superstates, unable to be overthrown by any internal rebellion. Their structure will be hierarchic, with the Satanic caste at the top and outright slavery at the bottom, and the crushing out of liberty would exceed anything the world has yet seen. Within each state the necessary psychological atmosphere will be maintained by a complete severance from the outside world, and by a continuous phoney war against rival states. Civilizations of this type will remain stable for thousands of years. Have no fear! Taken from David Icke s Website: http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/30972/32 - Sunday, 17 January 2010

Australian Adept Unveiled World Satanic Control By Henry Makow Ph.D. January 3, 2010 In an explosive deathbed confession, a former head of the satanist "Alpha Lodge" in Sydney, Australia, revealed the pervasive worldwide power of organized Satanism, which is synonymous with the Illuminati. "Things are not as they seem -- and they have not been for a long, long time," he wrote, describing a wholesale betrayal of society by its ostensible leaders. "Petor Narsagonan" aka "Frater 616" died March 25, 2004. Recently, his executor, an "Aloysius Fozdyke" (their satanic names) sent the 15 pp. document by email to Arthur Cristian, webmaster of "loveforlife.com.au" "I have felt it necessary to edit very little of this work," "Fozdyke" wrote to Cristian, "although legal considerations have ensured that some names and details were excised. It was His intention to have this published in the popular media." What follows is a synopsis of this shocking document focusing on Satanic power and influence. Satanic influence is "now so pervasive as not to be readily noticed," Frater says. Satanists are laced throughout Australian society, and the pattern is replicated everywhere. They include politicians, doctors, high ranking police officers, lawyers, decorated military men, media personalities, fashion models and social workers. The most talented have lifestyles maintained by crime under a veneer of

respectable professionalism and knowledge. Marginal types (prostitutes, drug dealers) are important to Satanism but are merely tools. Frater explains he got involved in a satanic group in university in 1971. "I fell through a crack in reality...I escaped the mundane through one of western society s fault lines." "A mentor" in the Satanic network set him up in the travel business and for years Frater live a life of unimaginable wealth, occultism and debauchery. He studied the blacks arts: divination, dark meditation, sacrifice, sexual vampirism, voodoo dolls and sex magic. Each day ended with a "Black Mass orgy of unforgettable and unspeakable delight." The US-based "Church of Satan" was the public face of "an ancient body whose very existence had never before been imagined." He lists as "influential members" J.P. Morgan, Drs. James McDonald and Rene Hardy, the Kennedy s (including Jackie), Irving Berlin, Groucho Marx, Elvis Presley, Garner Ted Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Ronald Reagan, Edward Heath, Thomas Plantard de St Claire and the Bushes. He later mentions Stephen Spielberg, George Lucas and Gerald Ford as members. US MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE INFILTRATED BY SATANISTS Intelligence agencies are instruments of the Illuminati central bankers. Frater says, "American Intelligence Services" funded the occult. "Many of America s high ranking military men were members of various Satanic Lodges or kindred organizations." They overlapped with organized crime and drug trafficking. US and Australian Navy ships were used, as well as oil tankers. Brothels and porn are a small part of the "International Satanic Empire" (i.e. Illuminati.) Most of the money comes from CIA drug trafficking, sophisticated blackmail, money lending and currency trading. "Satanists of the highest order are behind a number of wealthy, Conservative, New Right Christian churches and organizations in America. These are some of contemporary Satanism s best cash-flow enterprises (mostly indirectly) and allow mass indoctrination and networking." Henry Kissinger first proposed using fundamentalist Christianity to bring about war, first in the Middle East and then globally. Kissinger "refined Hitler s Terror Technique ... building tension within a society and then finding a scapegoat. Dark Path adepts do this ... to move people to more gross and hideous behaviors." The aim of the Alpha Lodge is 66% illiteracy rates in the Western World by 2010, and "the destruction of at least 70% of the globe s population by the year 2030." Most governments count on their "sheeple" to respond in "typical infantile fashion" and to identify with " a more powerful force-- even if it enslaves, brutalizes and humiliates them." Frater attributes the following to the "influence of Satanism in the modern world:" -The developed world is heading toward Third World status because the central banks are owned by Satanists. -Multinationals rape the environment and reap the rewards from Australia s natural resources. -The media in the Free World is "heavily controlled" and in bed with the government. -Fluoride in Australia s water supply. -Educational standards dumbed down. -Multiculturalism foisted on the First World (with exception of Japan.) -Illuminati Satanists behind 9-11. -Mossad came up with weapons of mass destruction rationale for Iraq Invasion. Illuminati uses Israel to run US foreign policy. CONCLUSION

Frater says politicians know that if they feign interest in the welfare of the sheeple, they will go along with their policies "because it is the line of least resistance." "Homo sapiens are herd animals, after all! ...Give them an election with no policy choices and for the most part they are happy. Allow their children no real prospects of success, inhibit their natural drives, particularly their sex drives; limit their options, coarsen their choices and society (such as it still is) quickly falls apart into predetermined categories. No families, just weak individuals free to do as they are told. Satan is a wonderful systems man. " The first and foremost responsibility of government is to prevent devil worshippers from taking control. It has failed. What do we say about a youth who can t tell the difference between good and evil? Increasingly this is the condition of society as a whole. The world is indeed controlled by Satanists who indulge in the most heinous crimes with impunity. Membership in this club appears to be the price of success, whether political, economic or cultural. "Progress" and "social change" are synonymous with mass social induction into Satanism. Frater 616: "Every hour of every day and every night, people are knowingly engaged in Satan s service. Human sacrifice--whether ritually and quicker, or slowly and degradingly over time -- is all harnessed to specific ends. " "Politicians are introduced by a carefully graded set of criteria and situations that [convince] them that their victims will be "Our Little Secret." Young children sexually molested and physically abused by politicians worldwide are quickly used as sacrifices." The social contract is broken. Any government that fails to tackle this cancer is illegitimate. Any society that tolerates it deserves what it gets. Link: http://www.henrymakow.com/australian_satanist_exposes_wo.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Comments for "Australian Adept Unveiled World Satanic Control" (Taken from Henry Makow s website) Claire said (January 10, 2010): I have no doubt of the truth of this. I was raised in Christianity and am still a Christian but have no church because most churches in my town are infiltrated by these awful people. When I married, I was looking for a Christian husband. After marrying an incredibly good-and-kind-seeming man who was a Presbyterian (PCUSA) and regularly did ministry to senior citizens, I found that he had been raised in "the cult." (The illuminati take many forms, but they re all at base the same, just wearing different masks.) His controllers forced him to leave me and our daughter. I continue to pray for him. Because like Henry I have a PhD in English, I m super-sensitive to the power of language and want to offer a caveat here. The term "satanism" brings to mind darkness and blood and black and red clothing, all adolescently drama-sodden. That kind of stuff is all right out in the open and un-mysterious. This cult is, by contrast, luciferian, meaning that the emphasis is on the LIGHT facade of satan, pre-fall. Thus, luciferians are more often met in their daytime manifestations, which are often "like an angel of light." I know luciferians who are kindergarten teachers, MDs, psychiatrists, nurses, police officers, attorneys and judges, university administrators. Name a "helping profession" and you will find it is shot through with luciferian practitioners.

Their particular "cloak of darkness" or invisibility is this "mask" that a positive "front" identity provides them... which really is a way to be invisible in society. I know that in some of their pathetic secret rituals they wear red and black clothing, but to the public they are invisible. When children are raised in cult abuse, they develop multiple personality disorder in order to encapsulate set aside the memories they cannot deal with. When this is most "successful," the dark side does not show through the mask, though frankly in my experience, a number of luciferians I ve met are about as transparent as can be in their evil. (Hah. That s a ludicrous failure of the "cloak of darkness" that aims to seem "light.") As another responder has written here, I wouldn t take all those names (in the article) as gospel truth. The ever-shifting nature of deception requires us to have more antennae than we ever imagined we d need, but when they say eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, they ain t whistling Dixie. -------------------------------------------------------------------anon said (January 10, 2010): The thing about the "Satanists" running the world, is most of them do not realize they are "Satanists". Their motivator may be a sense of greed, false nationalism, hate, power, corporatism, or convinced they are "protecting their country from terrorists and security threats". That s the joke of it all...most the so called "elite" of this world, just like the jihadists they control or the soldiers they employ; have no idea for who or what they ultimately are the pawns of. -------------------------------------------------------------------Lucy said (January 6, 2010): I read through the entire letter sent, and the more I think about it, the more clearly it seems the reason this was "published" is to make us despair of ever hoping to overcome Satan s plan. They want us to believe they are all powerful and nothing can stop them, not even God himself. Now don t get me wrong, I believe much of what this man has said, and that their evil knows no bounds. But to believe that God, the one and true God, cannot defeat this evil is ludicrous. If God so willed it, all of creation could be destroyed in a heartbeat. Yet He loves us so much that He would never do such a thing. God has given man free will, and these evil men have taken full advantage of that. But God s Will is so much more powerful than these peons could ever imagine. So what to do in the face of this proclamation of evil? Continue praying and offering all of your sufferings to God. Love one another and live your life truthfully and to God s Will. Make your life a prayer to God s glory, and offer all good things to him. Even in the darkest of hours, God will not forsake the faithful, even when it feels as if we are alone. Never lose hope and never despair. -------------------------------------------------------------------Jerry said (January 5, 2010): Unreal mouse plagues, severe droughts, severe flooding, and other weird and unusual weather phenomena as well as that meteorite has long showed that something is not right down under. What most shrug off however as being the result of industrial pollution the scriptures tell us that it is the result of none other than God Himself. See the storm of the Lord will burst out in wrath, a whirlwind swirling down on the heads of the wicked. The anger of the Lord will not turn back until He fully accomplishes the purposes of his heart. In days to come you will fully understand this. {Jeremiah 23:19-20} When I shoot at you with my deadly and destructive arrows of famine, I will shoot to destroy you. I will bring more and more famine upon you and cut off your supply of food. I will send famine and wild beasts against you, and they will leave you childless. Plague and bloodshed will sweep through you, and I

will bring the sword against you. I the Lord have spoken. {Ezekiel 5:16} The word of the Lord came to me, Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its men and their animals, even if these three men Noah, Daniel and Job were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord. {Ezekiel 14: 12-14} These satanists are not going to profit as much as they think with their sinful and satanic ways!!! In fact I often wonder where exactly are crop circles going to take us or end with. What the weather and scriptures can t do God in His long suffering ways has to now resort to wheat graffiti. Amazing if not altogether frightening !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------A.J. Fozdyke -2 said (January 5, 2010): [to Arthur Cristian] Final Email For we are part of His Kingdom; For Aeons and Aeons. Whether the herd doubt the material I have forwarded is not of any interest to me. I was instructed to follow the wishes of the late Petor Narsagonan and have done so, at some personal risk to myself. There is enough (albeit dated) material for individuals to judge its veracity. Being familiar with the work I know that there are names and information that could be researched. I also know that these will not be. Perhaps Petor was applying the oldest trick in the book: if you want to hide something, make it public. As for me, I am advancing in years and must perform some ordeals whilst I am still able. This is my last direct communication. In the coming months an economic depression will quickly manifest that will make the Great Depression look like a picnic. The sheeple do not care that we have orchestrated it and have been since the Mount Washington Hotel meeting of July, sixty-six years ago. No one showed any concern then, so when their wives and daughters prostitute themselves to put food on the table and the desperate sell their children, they still won t complain! Paper money is cheap to print but must be paid with interest and we and our associates want more real assets - including the assets of our doubters. In a scientific world devoid of divinity the fear of the diabolical still thrives. There is something within the minds of men and women that knows the atavistic comprehension that although buried beneath centuries of science and schooling still whispers, Something wicked this way comes. Our ancient path is the path to power unimaginable, to a Darkness and Evil that rides through the Black Magician like thunder, to the inexorable eclipse of the conscience that betrays. It is the gate into the unspeakable, where the mighty rise as Gods and Goddesses and the meek shrivel into ashes. Darkness must be known and experienced as a real and tangible force, as substantial as the wind that stirs into a tornado, never seen but undeniable all the same. And shortly you shall all know it. -------------------------------------------------------------------CB said (January 5, 2010): Mixing truth with lies is how Satan gets over. A darkened mind does not suddenly see the light; in fact, past a certain point, God PREVENTS them from doing so. They cannot con Him at the end. I know quite a bit about some of the alleged members listed in this Article, and while many were, many were NOT, Satanists. The attempt to create the impression that this Clown, half-assed Archangel, is omnipotent is flat-out ridiculous, as well as blasphemous. This is another deception. The only fait accompli, here, is the apathy and gullibility of the majority of humans. God dictates what this Moron can, and cannot, do- and WHEN. The Last Days hysterics are just as manufactured and contrived as will be the upcoming Alien

Invasion. These are not those Days. It is from a Script, not Scripture. And Israel is not that of the Bible, or of Yahweh, but of Theodor Hertzl, and David Ben-Gurion. He also said that HE would re-gather whats left of the Joos (there arent any since Christ was rejected), not Balfour, or Hitler or Netan-yahoo. These were SPECIFICALLY forbidden to do so. Jesus specifically described that time, and this aint it. More deception created to emulate, and to counterfeit, what people have been led to expect, and accept, rather than what God CLEARLY said. Shun the Boogie-man, and he will flee: assuming one is an actual Christian, that is, and not a poseur. Discernment is stunningly rare These Days. -------------------------------------------------------------------A.J. Fozdyke said (January 5, 2010): I forwarded the material to you Arthur Cristian and thank you for publishing same. Unfortunately a number of websites have reproduced it. This was never my intention. I have removed some details; for example, the fact that J.W.H. is a High Grade Magician, that J.W.B. was a puppet being manipulated by the Alpha Lodge and that T.B. is an advanced initiate within the O.N.A. A number of paragraphs were re-arranged in order to achieve greater narrative flow, for in some circumstances I was working from notes. The Dr. Ward referred to was Dr. Stephen Ward (about whom the entire truth will never be told). The British pound will plummet, allowing the U.K. Government to more easily adopt the Euro. The American Empire is about to implode. Diseases created in the U.S.S.R. are about to be inadvertently unleashed upon the world. The timetable has its own momentum because no one cares to stop it! Petor Narsagonan was known be a number of names, at least one of which would be known by many South Africans. He published under a number of non-de plumes. I have no idea of all that he did and I do not wish to know. He is dead. He was found dead by a regular visitor to one of his homes (in Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia). His demise had been expected and yet I have heard rumours of peculiar events preceding it. His body was cremated (as is the tradition) in a ceremony that saw the Council of Seven convene in Melbourne; Victoria, Australia on 30th April, 2004. I do not believe that he had children (or at least, surviving children). The terms of his testamentary disposition (probate was not requires) left his assets, including portfolios, to the Grand Council of The Alpha Lodge. Because I do not wish to be contacted I have not proffered any of my details. I ask that you accept that I have my reasons for so doing. I have filled in some of the gaps with the assistance of Fraters S.A. and K9. -------------------------------------------------------------------Austn said (January 4, 2010): Thanks for the info re down under politics behind the scenes. Here in Oz, we ve often been able to piece together threads and pieces of our own local jigsaw puzzle, re the conspirators etc. However, the extent of their infiltration and involvement is generally speaking, unknown to the majority of those concerned with the current situation, much less the general public. Governments come and go, but what is now obvious, is that the senior public servants, police officials and others, are not removed from time to time through elections but are there constantly. They are the ones who get to do business with the big end of town (eg: infrastructure, defense contracts, new schools,

hospitals, jails etc,) are all built by these people, not by the locals, who are now desparate to eek out a living from what s left of the economy. Although Australia has been rather resilient and robust against the NWO financial meltdown, our time of floating above the sea of debt must surely come to an end one day. Personally, if our affairs over here were managed properly, what we have in the ground (minerals) and what we can grow in terms of primary produce, should make us 80% self sufficient. Due to our foreign ownership laws, and the devious little work-arounds that these conspirators have found, we really have no laws that product the little people from being pillaged any more. It makes me wonder what can be done, as many people who are in the know nowadays, are still perplexed as to what to do, and how to survive this crisis. I myself am a firm believer in God and am not concerned with my own personal future, but I often think about my friends and neighbours who do not share my Christian faith, who see a bleak future or no future at all. "Every dog has its day" is one of the old proverbs too - maybe this NWO dog will have its day for a time and a season, and then history will bury it where it belongs - deep underneath the truth. Satanists In The US Military - Letter From Lisa To Henry Makow Comment Taken From Henry Makow s Website: http://www.henrymakow.com 11th January 2010 "Petor Narsagonan" aka "Frater 616" Hello Henry: Attached is a photo of Gen. Franks and Bush supposedly taken in Afghanistan sometime shortly after 9/11/01. The photo was part of an article on the BBC online regarding the war in Afghanistan. I have kept it all these years as a grim reminder of the shock upon seeing it for the first time. Franks is using the Satan hand sign and one wonders who these two are addressing. At the time, I sent the photo to just about everyone on my email list and no one believed it meant anything. One friend even suggested it must be a military hand sign! It was devastating to acknowledge that people did not even believe their own eyes or shrugged it off as unimportant. Since that time many other instances of the Satan hand sign have occurred and amazingly so after the second Bush inauguration. People in Europe were astonished but the media told them it was a sign for Texas University - hook em horns. Again, no one believed there own eyes or gut. How can the public be so easily deceived? This public demonstration of these people s allegiance to Satan does not seem to bother anyone. Yet every time that I have questioned my own sanity because of my belief that the real war is being waged from a different headquarters so to speak, I take out this picture and look at it. My eyes do not deceive me. I read your article about the dying revelations of Petor Narsagonan and his statement that many high ranking military men are involved in these groups. I thought I would send you this photo, although you may have already seen it. In any case, there is no doubt that the world is in the grip of very spiritually dark individuals. Everything seems affected on some level by this poisonous influence and yet people seem completely oblivious to what is taking place. If you mention the satanic concept, people assume you are a religious whacko. The proof is everywhere around us and in particular, the widespread degradation of the human being is prolific. The lack of aspiration to a higher plane of life is profound. The highest achievement now appears to be the lowest and most depraved fulfillment of carnal appetite. One wonders if eventually there will be no

satisfaction for the degraded; having devoured the very soul all that will be left is cannibalism. It is normal to accept human nature along with the desires that manifest naturally within every person. The difference is that there must also be beauty of spirit in our acts. You can weep with compassion for the young lovers Romeo and Juliet and the cruel world that denied them their love. Yet today one should feel revolted by the people who have lowered themselves to deviant behavior. There must be freedom of expression but there are also boundaries that one should not cross, simply because it divides the spirit from the body. For many of those partaking in this self-destructive behavior there will be no going back. Loss of humanity and respect will create even more ugliness ending in chaos for those involved. The participants are caught in a drug and media induced frenzy that is not going to end well. Humanity is caught in a web of mind control that is so pervasive they do not even believe what their own eyes see. It is frightening because the situation is so all encompassing that even the future seems to be within the grip of darkness. What can a person do to combat this unless there is acknowledgment of what is happening. When I show this photo to my husband he acknowledges that Franks is saluting Satan. He does not feel any horror about it but states that these people must be toppled from their positions of power. A reasonable person would agree, but tell me --how do we do this? I appreciate your articles and hope that more and more people will be enlightened by them. The real fear is that time is running out. Take care and good wishes to you. Link to this posting/comment: http://www.henrymakow.com/australian_satanist_exposes_wo.html or try http://www.henrymakow.com 2 HOUR VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH ARTHUR & FIONA CRISTIAN: Please listen to this 2 hour interview with us 29th April 2009: http://www.greengardenearth.com/media/video/loveforlifeinterview.mp4 - The image quality is poor for fast streaming, but the sound is ok. We intentionally downsized it for the sake of speed and a small streaming down-loadable file size. Once this video is professionally edited it will be posted in a much higher resolution to this YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/ArthurLoveForLife and in the Love For Life.com.au website ASAP. We were interviewed by overseas freelance journalist with ties to both the London and New York Times and we will shortly be making more, short videos on the different aspects of our work, also to be posted. This video is not structured but covers the surface of many subjects that we will explore in more detail in other videos. It gives a good idea of the basis of our work for those new to it. For more detail, look at the documents at the links provided in this article. Those who want to fully comprehend the extent of the brainwashing we have all received need to spend sometime studying our work which will also help you fully-comprehend the remedy we offer of Kindom (Do No Harm Communities). Note: If you are having difficulties loading this video try installing the Quicktime player here: http://7media-player.com or try a freeware version of Quicktime here: http://www.tucows.com/preview/195040 or try here: http://www.softwarepatch.com/network-security/qtdownload-security.html or try here: http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/QuickTime... WEEKLY INTERNET RADIO SHOW INTERVIEW WITH ARTHUR CRISTIAN

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A List Of The Latest Arthur And Fiona Cristian Videos, Audios And Articles Posted To The Love For Life Website 5th May 2009 9.21am For those who wish to awaken from the fiction (a state of unconsciousness) and find the way out back to creation (consciousness - which is really just a shift in focus), we recommend reading the articles listed below. These articles are the result of us going outside the square and swimming around and around like a shark circling its prey getting ever closer until we were able to unravel the matrix that enslaves us and who is behind it. When you realise what causes us to put our energy into the fiction and the consequences of maintaining it, it is easy to see how we have come to the remedy we offer of KINDOM. We have not come across any other remedy that takes MAN back to where we were before we fell from consciousness; all other supposed remedies out there maintain our state of unconsciousness and, while we are unconscious, we do harm. Only when we cease to do harm will we have lives of true freedom, peace, joy and abundance. Some of the articles go back to when we started in 2005 so you will find a lot of repetition as we were unravelling the spell, bit by bit, going around and around the prey until we fully-comprehended it. The articles go up to today, 4th May 2009, and onwards as we write them. We hope you enjoy them and welcome any comments you may have. Welcome To The Work Of Love For Life

Click Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 Arthur and Fiona Cristian Love For Life Architects Of Deception - Secret History Of Freemasonry by Juri Lina - 566 x A4 Page PDFupBlog: Sea Change In Dry Cleaning - Mohammad-In-Egham - Six Jewish Companies Own 96% Of World Media Articles/Emails Arthur CristianFreedom Fighter UpdatesLove for Life CampaignAdd new commentComments Fri, 01/08/2010 - 20:09 Arthur Cristian Satanists Will Propagate Any Lie That Serves Their Ends......... Hi Arthur, Satanism is a very powerful sect around the world, as you would know. It has been around for centuries. I would add a little something to the story on your website, namely --Satanists will propagate any lie that serves their ends but they really believe what they believe is the truth. What they believe is that God had two sons, one Christ, the other Satan. Satan rebelled against God, lost and was thrown out of heaven. In the outer nothingness he created the nearest approximation to heaven but because he had set himself opposite to God everything he created was opposite to the goodness of God. What he created, they believe was the physical universe and being opposite to God they believe that the natural order is that might is right and that a successful use of power is its own validation. To be wrong, they believe only means that you misjudged the situation and used the wrong tactics. They believe that the only way to have an afterlife is to perform some deed that impresses Satan enough to attract his attention, hence some of the horrible crimes committed with complete indifference to the suffering of the victims. You probably already know about Doug Coe and The Family in the USA. Based in Virginia, just outside Washington, they advocate complete, unquestioning obedience to a being they call Jesus, not the Jesus of the New Testament but a being who advocates and rewards a successful acquisition and use of power, regardless of ethics. It has been a brilliant seductive operation, given the historical resonance with the name Jesus over the centuries.They have had a direct hand in every misuse of state power by the United States Government for decades. They have also actively supported TV and Emotional Evangelism which calls for public affirmations of faith despite very specific warnings in the New Testament against such superficial, potentially hypocritical and strategic displays. The accumulation of massive wealth from these activities and repeated incidents of the most depraved acts of homosexuality by Evangelists against young people in their congregations goes against the text and spirit of the New Testament, to say the least. The way The Family, together with the Evangelists have used public affirmations of faith, despite New Testament admonitions against this has hijacked the US Republican Party away from its small government, low tax, traditional values, direct relationship with the land and an innate reluctance to support foreign military adventuring and to becoming a vehicle to be used by George W. Bushs handlers. Something similar is happening in the Australian Liberal and National Parties. The Satanists have also done something similar with Islam in turning people into suicide bombers in the name of the Prophet. In Australia, they have used multi-culturalism, white guilt about supposed race crimes over the centuries, males as oppressors of females, etc to put in place a regime that prevents any emergence of a land inspired local culture and spirituality and reduces everyone to being only a consumer worker or business operator. Certainly not beings with individual cultural or spiritual capacities. The way the Labor Party, the party of the working people was used to introduce

multi-culturalism was brilliant. Multi-National Corporations do not want any national cultures around the world that have their own relationship with the land of their country so, in the name of free trade and free markets they go in support of the free movement of peoples, which means only from the Third World into Western Countries for the moment so that they can have a group of incompatible ghettos that have their token annual days but in practice a Hollywood inspired California culture is imposed that allows the multi-nationals to place factories in low wage areas to produce low cost California Lifestyle Products that can be sold into every country around the world, in time. This helps the Satanists in reducing everyone down into being economic entities only and in having people congregate in cities where they can be more easily controlled and kept away from any relationship with the land. D Hallreply Tue, 08/03/2010 - 05:17 Berean (not verified) Reply to D Hall Hi D Hall, Correct if wrong but what you are essentially saying is that there is two sides to Christianity? There are people out there that are really Satanists disguising themselves as Christians and fooling the unwary or those people/ Christians that do not study the Bible? This is what the Apostle Paul said that there were two gospels and two Christs, one is really Jesus and the other is the Antichrist, who counterfeits Jesus and deceives the world through sorcery. Through personal application and study of the Bible and prophecy one becomes aware that God has many "sons and daughters", sons by creation were the angels and Adam the first man, by adoption were humans, however Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16. Jesus shared in the creation of all things with the Father, see Proverbs 8. Satan or Lucifer was a created being or angel and was created by the Father and Son by the power of their spirit, the Holy Spirit. The angels are all known as sons of God, see Job. Lucifer was a covering cherub, or the 2nd closest to the throne of the Ancient of Days, namely Yahweh or Jehovah as God the Father is also known. Jesus Christ or Michael, the Archangel or (Architect/Creator/Leader of the Angels) was closest to the throne of God and the only being in the universe that was as the presence or authority of the Father. The creation of the earth was between the Father and the Son and the plan of redemption, where Christ was given in man s place as an atonement for sin was really laid out before the creation of the earth was completed. God knew that Satan would try to destroy God s creation and usurp the world from Adam and Eve, (stealing through deception the world and the immortality/face to face relationship with God they had before they sinned) because God lives in yesterday, today and tomorrow. Hate and jealousy for Jesus Christ had been brewing in the heart of Satan for a long time toward and when the war of heaven took place, Satan and the angels he convinced to rebel (now demons) were cast down to this earth, not some parallel universe, thus Satan is now ruling the earth as far as God permits, full knowing that he has a short time. When Christ died on Calvary the victory was sealed for all humanity, we now have the opportunity to receive eternal life with God and reclaim this earth again as our home in the Edenic condition. Christ is the only true saviour and mediator between God and man, the only way to the Father through the Son. Satan is everything in opposition to God and as attested by the above article about Satanism regarding the depravity of those individuals who have personally chosen that path that will lead to the second resurrection. God cannot be blamed because he gave very human a conscience and ability to decide between right and wrong within the capacity of their intelligence - Christ is the light that lighteth everyman that cometh into the

world - These Satanist people must become possessed with the demons that they worship and can no longer exercise their thinking powers of what is ethical or unethical. This is a counterfeit process of the anointing of the Holy Spirit of God that produces goodness and the fruits of the spirit. It makes true the Biblical claim that Satan set himself up in opposition to everything that is God, good just holy and decent and orderly through lawlessness or chaos. Their only hope lies in the Saviour that they reject as did their master, eons ago. God is not a respecter of persons, high or low rich or poor. All men are created equal. All men may come to Christ to seek pardon for sins and recieve grace.God will not force any person to obey him, it is a hard road to travel and Christ assures of his ever abiding love and presence throughout our lives as our help, comforter and burden bearer, he becomes our father and we his children when the kingdom of God is reborn in us. Israel is a spiritual nation and is made up of all tribes, nations, peoples and languages. God loves us and will never leave and forsake us. He is the true God, all the rest are Satan counterfeits and the mystery religion, Babylon. All of the above was taken from the Bible, pre King James versions and the EG White series entitled the Conflict of Ages, including the Story of Redemption. God be with you, peace.reply Thu, 09/09/2010 - 22:13 dreaming (not verified) REPLY TO D. HALL Well said and stated. Your explanation was truly uplifting. As a Christian married to a NOW quasi practising Jewish man I have a long road to walk along BUT not alone. Thank you!reply Sun, 01/17/2010 - 22:34 nick (not verified) Excellent commentary D Hall! Excellent commentary D Hall! You have hit the nail on the head. The dumbed down fluoridated sheeple look down their noses, and call RACIST to anyone who knows the agenda! People are too busy feeding their many addictions to notice or care!reply Sat, 01/09/2010 - 09:09 Anonymous (not verified) re: Satanists Will Propagate Any Lie That Serves Their Ends..... Satan is really Saturn. Saturn was the original "sun". Satan/Saturn is worshipped on Saturday. So, now you know who the Jehovah s Witnesses and the Seventh Day Adventists really worship and serve. I knew that they were up to no good. It is possible that Big Arnie is one - he made a good Terminator.reply Sat, 08/07/2010 - 09:40 jesus is real (not verified) JESUS IS REAL Dr. Simon Greenleaf, former professor of law at Harvard University and once recognized by the Supreme Court to be perhaps the greatest authority on legal evidence who has ever lived, made a detailed examination of the evidence relating to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, quoted by L.A. Drummon and P.R. Baxter in the 1986 book How to Respond to a Skeptic. (Chicago: Moody Press, p 117.) He concluded that in any unbiased courtroom in the world, the evidence would establish the fact that Jesus was resurrected from the dead. The documentary evidence has been examined independently by millions of people, each of whom had the opportunity to find mistakes if there were any. St. Luke, for example, turns out to be as meticulous a geographer and historian as anyone now living. Calling his Gospel "mythology" is like calling Caesar s Gallic Wars "legendary." Contempt prior to investigation is no way to determine the facts. Unlike some religious literature, the Bible is filled with specific names, dates, places. Fifty or sixty years ago it was commonplace to scorn these as legendary or inaccurate, but having such an attitude today requires one to ignore libraries full of research in history, archeology and linguistics. Which of course is your privilege; but the recently-published "Under the Influence" by Alvin Schmidt

shows that virtually everything that makes the world today better than it was in Roman times stems directly from the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. To put it in simple terms, if these people are worshipping Satan then where did Satan come from? If Satan is real then so must be Jesus. If Jesus is the opposite to Satan, then Jesus must be good, for any human with a conscience will attest to the depravity and terrible evil described in this expose by these " frater people?" So, if Jesus is really who he says that he is, the only begotten Son of God, then Satan must be the fallen Lucifer, who was thrown out of heaven and has set himself up against God and everything good, created by God, who in the written Bible is known as YHWH. So the Bible must be correct, because these prayers and chants repeated to Lucifer/Satan are really the opposite wording to the Lord s prayer, which was taken out of the Bible, New Testament. If Satan is the unseen ruler of this earth then the Bible prophecy is proven true, because it says that the devil(Satan) the dragon was thrown down to the earth and will rule the earth for a short period of time. See the books of Daniel and Revelation. So all of these past world powers were really Luciferian or Masonic in and that is why Jesus was tempted by Satan offering him all the kingdoms of the earth and Jesus rejected him. That is why Christians were persecuted and considered "enemies" of the Roman empire. You would only reject an offer if you had something of greater value than that offer? So in effect, the Father and Son are the rulers of the Cosmos and Satan is really the usurper of this earth. Satan has even lies to his own followers, since he is the father of lies and the origin of iniquity, which was the original sin in heaven and the beginning of the great controversy between Christ and Satan. Christ being God s co creator as of Proverbs 8. This is an opportunity to personally examine the facts for yourself and not dismiss what the Christians, believers in the Bible and Ellen G White are saying. God is talking to you through the Bible and the instruments of his people which is incidentally all who believe, love and obey him and his representative, God with us -Jesus.reply Sat, 08/07/2010 - 23:53 Anonybous (not verified) JESUS IS REAL????? What a crock of absolute shite!!!! Have you ever read a book that is referenced? Dr. Simon Greenleaf was a noted paedeophile and Ellen G White fingered her fanny every day while shoving a figurine of Je-Zeus up her arse. To put it in simple terms - Je-Zeus is NOT real! If Satan is real, then where did he come from? From the Tao, you f**king, dimwit - to help you learn and grow. But you are so stupid and ignorant that it is never going to happen. You read crap and listen to those who are possessed by demons. Reading your posts disturbs me greatly - I feel like puncturing my eardrums and ripping out my eyes, such is the blasphemy. So vile is the contamination that you bring to this planet that you are to be despised as lower than the most filthy maggot or bacterium or plague. You are a monster, preying on the innocent and the defenceless. I know what you are - a soulless droid attempting to steal immortality from we fragile humans. Yet, what we possess will never be yours - we will all perish together. Maybe that is the point to existence - ridding the world of ignorant dross such as yourself, so that real creation can take place.reply Tue, 08/10/2010 - 20:43 contained and real (not verified) Regarding anonybous You need to see a psychiatrist asap and be scheduled because your in serious need of psychiatric intervention.reply Wed, 05/12/2010 - 01:46 Anonymous (not verified)

SUNDAY Is The "Venerable Day Of The Sun" Hence The Word SUNday Excuse me, but you do not know what you are talking about. SUNDAY is the "venerable day of the Sun" hence the word SUNday. Satan means opposer and accuser of the brethren (God s people). He is a liar and the father of lies. Hence the many Biblical references to the above where the Lord Jesus Christ reveals the truth to the Jews and later on his true followers and disciples through his testimony, the Holy Bible. Saturday is named after Saturn, the SUN and Saturn are two completely different astral bodies in the solar system. The names of the days of the week derive from the Norse god s, hence Wednesday is Woden and Thursday is Thors day. Friday is Friggs day, etc they are all pagan Nordic gods. The English language anglicized these names but there origin and meaning remains the same. SATURDAY is several languages across the world known as SABBATH, SABADO, SABBATON, SABATO etc, in fact there may be as many as 90 or more languages that call the Sabbath day as we know Saturday. The origin of Sabbath is from creation, where the true God, Jehovah and His Son Jesus (ELOHIM)rested on that day and mankind is commanded to REMEMBER to do so from the 4th Commandment. The Sabbath is in honour of the Creator, that is why the Adventists keep it. The Jews keep it as part of the covenant, as they were the original people of the covenant, now through Jesus atonement the forgiveness of sins is available to ALL men, when they accept Jesus Christ as their LORD and personal saviour and repent, receive grace, his perfect life through the gift of his holy spirit allowing man to keep his commandments, all 10. None have been done away with, for they reveal God s character, that he sent His Son Jesus, who was was willing to die for a lost race of sinful, rebellious people. The JW s do not worship on Saturday but observe Sunday, and pay homage to the Sun, and its god. Jehovah never sanctioned the changing of the Bible, or His Holy Law. these are all the inventions of men warring with their leader, who is referenced in the abominations of the earlier articles, against the Almighty God and His Son, the government of heaven. The war was won for mankind on Calvary by Jesus Christ, that is why every knee will bow. You need to get a copy of the Great Controversy between Christ and Satan, by E.G White ( a true prophet) as it appears that you know very little about the Bible or prophecy and you have developed a heart hardened by prejudices against the very people that God has raised to deliver the last messages of mercy to this earth before Jesus(Michael the Great Prince) returns to take His people home and the world is destroyed by fire (cleansed by God). I do not know what religion Arnie? is. Their is much speculation that he is allegedly a Nazi sympathiser, because his father was an Austrian military official linked with Hitler in WW2. I doubt that Arnie would be be worshipping on the Sabbath day given Hitler s racism /anti semitism. Regardless of what you have written, or which agenda s are pushed in this world. There is impressed upon me a burden to share with you the truth. I did not discover this website for nothing. I know someone out there will heed this message. God will avenge everything that has been done to these poor people. No one has the right to harm another person in such a way that has been previously described, the horror of this will be avenged By Him. You see the fact that we

are still here and that Jesus hasn t returned in the clouds is because of God s mercy, to the righteous AND the wicked. Everything belongs to God and he will restore His creation, now is the day of salvation! "The world is passing away and so is its desire, but he who does the will of God remains forever". It is mine and God s prayer that you reexamine your prejudices and false beliefs about Him, his people as did Saul, who warred against the church, as a brand plucked from the fire (God s impending wrath upon the unrepentant and the father of lies) and became the greatest apostle. Please reexamine the evidence and reason with God. Dear readers, examine the truth for yourselves. There are many sheep in different folds and evil will not triumph, Jesus ascended to the Father and now sits as our high priest in heaven atoning for our sins, but we must repent. Do not believe the lies of the blind guides leading the blind, they have no idea of the day of the Lord! All of these crimes committed against innocent people will be avenged by God, don t be fooled by the depravity of their evil heart or the sophistry of Satan. Please open your eyes and see the truth, we have one life and then the judgement! Don t become drunk by the wine of Babylon, the false religions of this world> Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and of abominations of the earth! Go to Jesus and find the truth in His word, buy the King James and read it, search the scriptures and see if what I have said is not accurate. Read the book Great Controversy. Look up Jim Arrabito and Alberto Rivera, look up acts321.org, there are many more. God can forgive all sins, but you will need to repent and forsake the sins, the process of sanctification is a lifetime, but God knows your heart and will know your sincere attempt to reconcile with him. Heavenly agencies will assist you. Please repent and open your eyes, The least of his brethren.reply Mon, 06/28/2010 - 13:08 jon (not verified) Sabbath SDA - From Bro William Branham On The Keeping Of Days Here is a quote from Bro William Branham on the keeping of days etc. Let me know your thought, Bro Jon. QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 32-Q-4 4. Would you explain Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is the seventh day? Christians go to church on Sunday, the first day of the week. Shouldn t they go on Saturday, the seventh day of the week? Well, now, dear friend, ever who asked that, that s a very good question. It s an old question is argued among thousands of students today, but could I--just let me give my version. You see, is all I can do. If I m not right, well, you--you bear with me; God forgive me (You see?) if--if I make it wrong. 33-132 And God rested the seventh day, His memorial rest day. I m saying that like that on the benefit of this might be a--a Seventh-day Adventist brother or sister (See?), and they have a lovely church. And now notice, I just would different with them a little bit on--on this question. Now, God hallowed the seventh day. Six days was man. Seventh day was God s rest day, which was a type, a type of the millennium. Now, now notice this how--how it blends in. Now, when Jesus came to the earth, what crucified Jesus was that He didn t keep the sabbath day; the only two accusations they had against Jesus was that He broke the sabbath day and made Himself God. And He said He was Lord of the sabbath. He had... He was also God s Sabbath and He was God. So they had no way of accusing Him. QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729

34-134 Now, let me just settle this for you and show you what day we re to keep. Now, is there a Scripture? I ll ask this for your benefit. Is there a Scripture, Brother Branham, telling us and authorizing us to keep Sunday just like the Jews kept Saturday? No, sir, there s not, not a Scripture in the Bible, for in the New Testament, for us to keep either Saturday or Sunday. But the reason we keep Sunday, is a memorial of the resurrection, Nothing... Now, you re going to say, "The Roman Catholic did that." They claim they did it, but if they did, Saint Paul was a Roman Catholic, and so was Peter, John, and James, and the rest of them, for they met on the first day of the week for their worship. And according to historians, the only way they could tell between a Christian Jew and an orthodox Jew (They both went to synagogues.), but one went on Saturday which denied the resurrection of Jesus, and the other one went on Sunday which believed that Jesus rose from the dead. And that was a mark. And it ll be; it s a mark yet, and it might come out in being the mark of the beast. QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 34-137 Now, I know that the... I ve heard Seventh-day Adventist brethren think that that s the seal of God. They said, "You re sealed by keeping the sabbath." There s not a Scripture in the Bible says that. And here s a Scripture in the Bible that says that--that you re sealed, Ephesians 4:30 says, "Grieve not the Holy Spirit of God whereby you re sealed unto the day of your redemption," the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Now, I ll prove to you that God s Seal is the baptism of the Holy Ghost. See? That s the baptism of the Spirit is the Seal of God. Now, Isaiah 28 he said, "Precept must be upon precept, line upon line, here a little and there a little." QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 35-140 Now, watch, now, dear friend. Now, the people who quit working... See, men are trying to find something to save hisself. There s not a thing you can do about it. You re saved by grace. God does the calling; God does the saving. You just follow the--the footsteps of God; that s all. You can t say... That s what s the nature of a man is. They try to quit eating meat; they try to keep sabbath days; they try to... "If you d quit doing this..." It s... You re not saved by not eating meat. You re not saved by this, that, or the other. You re saved by grace. And God by grace gives you the new--Eternal Life. See what I mean? And Eternal Life is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 35-141 Now, let me show you. What does the word "sabbath" mean? Anybody know, would just raise your hand? Sabbath? [A sister says, "Rest."--Ed.] "Rest." Exactly. S-a-b-b-a-t-h, sabbath day, means "r-e-s-t," rest day. Get your marginal reading in the Bible and look, "Rest" day. Now, let s go to Hebrews the 4th chapter, right quick now. And we ll--we re... This is my last question right here. And brother, see if Brother Neville has got them there. I know a couple of them is short ones, so we won t keep you too much longer. Now, excuse me till I get it. Now, when you see the word here, "rest," then you know that means "sabbath." Now, here s the New Testament. Jesus, in St. Matthew He begin at the 5th chapter of St. Matthew, and He begin like this: "You have heard them say, them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery. " That, what was that? The law, commandments. "But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her..." Changed it, didn t He? "You ve heard them say, them of old time, Thou shalt not kill, but I say unto you..." Changed it, didn t He? (Thought He

didn t change the law?) All right. He said, "But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause has killed already." That never was back under the Old Testament; that s New Testament. He just swept it on in yonder beyond that. See? He went ahead and give those commandments out. But He missed; He skipped the fourth one, which is the seventh day. Now, in the 7th chapter, here... QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 36-145 Where in--in the Beatitudes, here s what He said; He said, "You ve heard them say, them of old time, Thou shalt, thou shalt not, and I say unto you different. You ve heard them say, "A tooth for a tooth, and an eye for an eye, but I say unto you... You heard them say different, but I say unto you." Now, at the end of it all, He left out the 4th commandment. Now, that was, "Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy." Now, He said, "Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest unto your soul." QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 36-147 Now, watch, "Whosoever commits adultery must be stoned." They had to be right in the act of committing adultery. Is that right? And it had to be physically done. "Whosoever kills," he had to be a murderer. But Jesus said, "Whosoever looketh upon a woman," his soul, spirit, nothing in his body now... His soul s redeemed; it wasn t then; it was a schoolmaster (See?), the law was. Now, He said, "Whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her, hath committed adultery already with her in his heart." Now, He said, "You ve heard them say, Thou shalt not kill, but I say, whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause has killed already." QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 36-149 Now, He said, in other words, about the sabbath, He said, "Come to me, all ye that labor and heavy laden, and I will give you rest unto your souls, sabbath unto your souls," not to the physical body, to your soul. Now, listen--listen at Paul now. If you can just... I know it s hot and everything; it s hot here too. But now, let s get this close now so we d be sure to settle it. Now, Paul, writing to the Hebrews... Who was the Hebrews? Speak up. The Jews. Is that right? Now, them was the law keepers, the sabbath keepers. Is that right? Is that right, brother, preacher? They were sabbath keepers; they was the law keepers. All right. Now, Paul is bringing the Jews by shadows and type, showing what the law typed. "The law having a shadow of the good things to come," and he goes ahead and gives it there in one place as the moon and the sun. As the--the--the moon is just a shadow of the sun shining on some other country or some other world, and it s reflecting back here. Now, but now, and it could not... But Hebrews 9... QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 37-152 Now, notice now in Hebrews 4, he comes to the sabbath proposition. Now, look. Let us therefore fear, lest, the promise being left us to enter into his rest,... Now, Paul speaking to sabbath keepers now, the people that kept the sabbath day. "Let us fear lest a promise being left us about a sabbath day," in other words. Or if you ll notice your marginal reading, or the "keeping of a sabbath." It s "j" in mine, of the Scofield Bible, or the "keeping of a sabbath." See? All right. Let us... fear, lest, a promise being left us... to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them... (back under the law):... but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith to them that heard it.

Now, that s back under the law. They didn t have faith, cause there s nothing to base it on. See? All right: For we which have believed to enter into His rest, as he said,... Now, "His" rest, now, "His," it s Christ s Rest (All right.), His Rest, His sabbath. I m... Every time I use "rest," is wrote there, I m going to use the "sabbath" so you ll understand about keeping of a day. See? For we which have believed to enter into His... (sabbath)... rest, as he said,... I have sworn in my wrath,... (to the Hebrews)... they shall not enter into my rest: although... (Now, watch Paul...?... after God s sanctified day)... although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day for a rest,... (or a sabbath... Is that right? I m going to lay that there. See?) For he spake in a certain place... (in the law)... of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest on the seventh day from all his works. QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 37-156 That was His seventh day. Now, Paul would admit that God give it to them; that was the seventh day. And God did rest the seventh day: He blessed the sabbath day; He hallowed it; He sanctified it, and made it a day of rest. God did do it, from all His works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest (Jesus speaking). Now, there s another sabbath somewhere. Where s it? Now, remember this here, "God s rest," that seventh day. Paul said, "They had that in a certain place." But now again he said, "If they shall enter into My Rest," speaking of Jesus in Matthew, all right. Seeing that it remains that some must enter in, and to them to whom it was first preached entered not... because of unbelief: Again... Now, listen close. Everybody listening, say "Amen." [Congregation says, "Amen!"--Ed.] Listen: Again, he limited a certain day,... He limited a day here. What was it? Everybody say it at once. The sabbath. Is that right? He limited the seventh day of the week as a sabbath in this place. And again, he limited a certain day, saying in David... (in the Psalms)..., To day, after so long a time;... (till Jesus comes, you see, the first time)... it is said, To day if You... hear his voice, harden not your heart. (There s another rest coming, not a physical, a spiritual.) QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 38-160 Now, watch. So you say, "Then we have the seventh day too." Now, hold it just a minute. Let s read the next verse (See?); don t get it too fast. All right: For if Jesus had have given them... For if--if Jesus had have given them rest... (rest day),... then would he not afterwards have spoken of another day. When He changed the law, from the law to the grace, wouldn t He have given them a day to rest, a rest day, a certain day? But He never said nothing about the sabbath. He never said nothing about Sunday; He never said nothing about Saturday. But here s what He did say; Paul said. Now, watch, "There..." The 19th... or the 9th verse: There remaineth therefore a sabbath to the people of God. (That s today.) There remains... a sabbath to the people of God. For he... (you or I)... who has entered into his rest... (Jesus Rest, "Come unto Me, all ye that labor and heavy laden, I ll give you Rest),... he... (you or I)... has ceased from his own work, as God did from his at the beginning. Amen! There s your sabbath. Is that right? Let us labour... (said Paul)... to enter into that rest, lest any man should

fall after the same example of unbelief... (of days and so forth. See?). For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even... the dividing asunder of the soul... and a discerner of the... and of... (Let s see.)... of the spirit, and of the... (Just a minute.)... dividing asunder of the soul and the spirit, and... the joints and the marrow, and... a discerner of the thoughts and the intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature... is not manifested in his sight: for all things are naked and open before His eye of him that whom we have to do. QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 39-163 Now, look, God rested the seventh day, created the seventh day, give it to the Jews for a memorial. I m speaking of Saint Paul now. See? Here... Now, you think he was bringing it? You think he had a right? Now, what d he say in Galatians 1:8? "If a angel from heaven would come and teach you any other Gospel than that what I have said, let him be unto you accursed." See, the Gospels are plain. Now, watch. "Well, Brother Branham, now what would I do, just believe Jesus Christ?" No. That s not the Rest. QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 39-165 Now, if you want to know what... How many would like to know what the Christian Rest is, say "Amen." [Congregation says, "Amen!" -- Ed.] Now, you can mark it if you want to: Isaiah 28. He said, "Precept must be upon precept--precept," speaking. "Precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little and there a little, and hold fast to that what s good," the prophet speaking of the time coming about Rest, sabbath. Read the whole chapter (You see?); he s same, "Times there when the sabbath day will be done away," and they ll sell shoes on the Saturday the same as they did it on Monday, or whatevermore. You see? Said, "When will this sign be?" Said: ... precept upon precept;... line upon line; here a little, and there a little: hold fast to that what s good. For with stammering lips and with other tongues will I speak to this people... And this is the... (sabbath)... the rest that I said that they should enter into. And for all of this they hardened their hearts and wagged their heads and rejected It. Just the same thing they did on Pentecost when the Holy Ghost fell upon the people, and the Holy Ghost was first given to the people back there on the day of Pentecost. That is the Rest, the sabbath to the people of God. QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 40-166 So the only reason that we keep Sunday, started by our ancient fathers of the Bible, Saint Paul, John, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and all them; they went from house to house; they taken communion on the first day of the week when the disciples come together; and it was called, not a sabbath, but the Lord s day. John said on the Isle of Patmos, there had already been a feast of the sabbath in the church, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord s day." That s right. See? And then he saw... And--and, now, the Lord s day is--is the day that the Lord arose. Now, you go get the historians, Josephus, Actibus [Uncertain spelling--Ed.], many of those other. Or not Actibus, oh, I can t... Any of the eastern writers, and you ll find out back there. The historians of the church, Foxe s "Book of Martyrs," many others, and you ll find out there that the only difference... They are a group of Jews. One of them they called cannibals; that was the Christians. They said, "There was a man that Pontius Pilate killed, and the disciples come and stole His body. And they got it hid, and every--every Sunday they go eat a part of it." They was taking communion. You see? They did... They taken His body. You see? They said they was taking the Lord s body, the communion. And they didn t know what it was, and he said they were cannibals. Said, "They go eat on the first day of the week; they meet together and eat this man s body."

QUESTIONS.AND.ANSWERS.ON.GENESIS_ JEFF.IN COD WEDNESDAY_ 53-0729 41-169 And the only way you could tell whether they were law keepers and bitterly denied the resurrection, or whether they was Christians and believed the resurrection, one went to church on Saturday and one went to church on Sunday, which was a mark between them. That s pretty strong, isn t it? All right. Hope that gets it. The Holy Ghost is... Now, you got something there, brother? You want... Do you want--do you want to go up and answer it? All right. Let s see, right here. Oh, yes.reply Tue, 06/29/2010 - 21:23 Christian (not verified) Reply to Brother Jon in regard to the Sabbath discussion Brother Jon and other brethren, Your efforts are commendable and it appears that you are searching for truth, may the Holy Spirit of God lead you into all truth. The Father and the Son are the basis of everything and we cannot get to the Father but through the Son, who died for our sins. The Son was the manifestation of the Fathers love for our human family. John 3:16. This is what Satan hates the most, this relationship and this truth. Have you noted that the writer of these letters to Arthur Cristian mentions the "overcoming". They must know that Christ overcame the world and it is only through the atonement that we can overcome as well. There is nothing in this world that could ever compare to what everlasting life with The Father and the Son will be. God has shown himself through Jesus, thus when people reject Jesus they reject salvation. However, God is long suffering and strives with hearts of stone, even though man may give up, God loves us more than a mother loves her new born child. He wont force through violence people to accept him, but He does withdraw His Spirit after he judges a person, thus that person is left to "reap what they sow". This explains the strange act that is the judgement of man. Christ Jesus and the Decalogue is the answer to all of mankind s problems. I believe in the millennium also, however I do not believe that we will be living on this earth after real Jesus returns, see 2 Peter. Also the Sabbath is a literal 24 hour period of time. It is quite clear in Genesis. It is also clear in Isaiah 66 especially verses 22 and 23. Take a look at them. Also the issue of meat and drink that the Apostle Paul speaks of is based upon doctrine not actual food and you find the exact same wording when Paul talks of feeding the disciples with milk and meat, this of course is not literal food but pure doctrine of the gospel of Christ Jesus. The forbidding to marry part is the celibacy of the priesthood and fits in perfectly with other descriptions of the mother of harlots church as do the other prophecies of Daniel and Revelation. Please be careful when people claim to be prophets they need to pass Biblical test. So excepting personal circumstances the only one that fits the Ladocean period is E G White. There is a book called The Prophet of the End, it is worth reading. Please get a copy of the Great Controversy by E G White that explains a lot. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, kept the ten commandments including the Sabbath as an example to his disciples and reinstitutes the Sabbath in the earth made new. The ordinances that were given to the disciples were foot-washing and the last supper. The Apostle Paul, as his custom was kept the Sabbath. The early Christian Church that flourished through the evangelism of the 12 Apostles spread as a Sabbath keeping church. Sunday was instituted by the Catholic Church, previously the Roman Church. They admit this openly as evidence of their "supposed superiority/authority" to Christ Jesus and God Himself since they

believe He got things wrong and they thought that as mere men they should improve upon His laws, which are a statement of His Holy Character and Government. The facts are that they they have changed times and laws, by rewriting the commandments. Some of their leaders have also murdered millions of innocent men and women as heretics because they refused to deny Jesus Christ and the truth. Do not get me wrong I am not against any person, rather a counterfeit system. There are many beautiful Christian people in the Catholic Churches and before the plagues fall God will call them out of spiritual Babylon through the straight testimony of the three angels messages. For further information about the three angels messages see E G White or acts321.org.au or restoration ministries. They are preaching the straight testimony as are the other evangelists that have been mentioned. Beware of the websites calling Eg White a false prophet and using her writings by disgruntled ex SDA s they are full of misquotes and out of context quotes and are manipulated in such a way that they use her so as to appear to contradict herself. When you actually get the books that they source the quotes from and read the quotes they use you get really quite incensed by their deliberate attempts to mislead the people and turn SDA s to disbelieve her and her revelations from God. They are behaving like the brethren that Paul spoke of knew the truth and then turned away others from Christ becoming His enemies. They will have to account for their false testimony in the judgement and I pray that they repent of this. May the love of the Father and His Son be with you all and may you find the fellowship of his saints and be perfected in all truth, God bless you, Jesus is with us always through the Holy Spirit, praise the Almighty God you are an answer to prayer!reply Wed, 06/30/2010 - 19:16 Anonybous (not verified) Re: Reply to Brother Jon in regard to the Sabbath discussion What the **** is going on here? More morons coming out of the blogosphere urging people down the wrong path. REJECT JESUS NOW!!!! It will soon be too late. Jesus (or rather, Hey-Zeus) represents all that is ignorant, destructive and evil. Your constant praying to this vileness is bringing all the woes and ills upon this fair planet - our true Mother. Be off, you pack of dumbarse idiots! Go away and leave good, sane people alone.reply Sat, 07/10/2010 - 15:52 jon (not verified) Your Constant Praying To This Vileness Lucifers United Nations Your constant praying to this vileness is bringing all the woes and ills upon this fair planet - our true Mother. You sound like your friends at the UN; Whose publishing company the Lucis (Lucifer) trust promote worshipping mother earth originated by those hateful witches Alice bailey and Madame Blavatsky. Lucifers United Nations reply Wed, 05/12/2010 - 13:52 Anonymous (not verified) re: SUNDAY Is The "Venerable Day Of The Sun" Hence The Word SUNd You are a moron. Everyone with a brain that is functional knows that there was a time when the Earth was coupled with Saturn and that Saturn was the "sun" to the Earth. This primary "solar system" originated near Orion. The Sun that is there now is a projection of Sirius A. Of course the Sun and Saturn are two completely different astral bodies in the solar system. Anybody can see that with their naked eyes, so why did you need to make that point? You have to explain why Saturn was considered the primary "sun" and was worshipped as the "creator deity" of the Earth. Why don t you ask Arrabito and Rivera to explain those

facts away, you ignoramous.reply Fri, 05/14/2010 - 10:01 Anonymous (not verified) Sabbath Is Not Saturday It s Friday Evening Until Saturday Eveni Sabbath is not Saturday. It is Friday evening until Saturday evening, as in Creation-Genesis. The Israelite s keep this time period in honour of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Sunday is kept in honour of the Sun, the creator or life giver, then was adopted to be in honour of Christ (dias dominii) lord s day. Jesus said that he was Lord of the Sabbath. Sabbath and Saturday are two, different periods of time. Did you realise that before posting your narrow minded hogwash? All pagan religions are based on SUN worship, not Saturn worship. Since the sun could be seen in the sky, they followed the patterns of the sun and attributed this movement to their god s birth, life and death. Once again, returning to the Babylonian trinity. The worship of the serpent (winged bird) as well as astrology, the movements of the stars was the basis of their religions and cults. These are abominations before the Creator, so how could this worship of the sun, Saturn etc be acceptable to Him? The worship of the "creature" rather than the creator has always been condemned in the Bible as idolatry. All pagan religions commenced in Babylon, by Cush, then the trinity of Nimrod, Tammuz, Semiramis. The trinity is the worship of all three, and has been interposed in Christianity so you are incorrect when allude that Saturn was worshipped alone as the creator deity. They are worshipped in 3. You need to learn how to spell.reply Fri, 05/14/2010 - 01:57 Anonymous (not verified) SABBATH Isn t SATURDAY It s Friday Sunset To Saturday Sunset Dear writer of the above comments, seriously. you need to learn some manners, and learn to spell correctly i.e ignoramous? SABBATH isn t SATURDAY, its Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. The "times and laws" have been changed. The seventh day is evening until evening. It s observance is what God requires of men when he issued the 4th commandment. If you want to argue with God and scripture by all means go ahead, like Joshua said, as for me and my household, I will follow the Lord. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned by FAITH. God will reveal the truth to you if your heart is not prejudiced by your preconceived ideas. God gave his truth to the "babes" and hid it from the prudent and the wise. All false religion originated in Babylon, through the rebellion of Nimrod, Semiramus and Tammuz AGAINST GOD. Each successive civilization adapted the pagan trinity to their worship of the sun,stars and moon. The stars were considered the planets or astral bodies of the solar system. By the way can you see Saturn from earth? Did the ancient peoples have powerful telescopes to see the solar system as we have today? Do you think that perhaps the worship of Saturn was interposed by the worship of the sun and that the sun was/is the planet of worship of many ancient pagan religions? The ancient Egyptians track the movement of the sun across the sky from sunrise, midday and sunset. The sun remains the central astral body of most religions today. You need to read The two Babylons by Rev Alexander Hyslop, it is an excellent

book. God bless.reply Sun, 05/16/2010 - 09:13 Anonymous (not verified) reply to: SABBATH Isn t SATURDAY It s Friday Sunset To Saturday Of course you can see Saturn with the naked eye, moron. The seven days of the week are named after the seven bodies of our current Solar System that can be seen with the naked eye - Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn. There was a time when there was no Moon and no Sun - only Saturn was visible as it hovered over the North Pole 24/7. Now it can only be seen at night, hence the reasons that you gave for the Sabbath. You need to get your heads out of those Fundy shite books and study real mythology. Also there are many supposed ancient "primitive" peoples on this planet who know about cosmic objects that we are only recently discovering. I don t know if they had telescopes or not, but I ll take your word for it that they didn t. So maybe they know about them because the Earth was once very close to them and they were visible to the naked eye. The Sun is indeed the central astral body of most religions today - but that has not always been so. It was once Saturn - and in every culture on this planet. Explain that one, doofus.reply Thu, 05/20/2010 - 01:59 Christian (not verified) reply to: SABBATH Isn t SATURDAY It s Friday Sunset To Saturday What connection are you trying to make between JW S and SDA S? If Saturn is seen and worshipped only at night then how come the Sabbath services are run during the day? Most Adventists sleep at the same time as other people do, they aren t outside in the woods in the middle of the night performing rituals to Saturn. The Hebrews, ancient Isrealites were given the command from the Creator to keep the Sabbath in honour of Him as a memeorial of creation. The Hebrews kept the days of the week numbered from 1-7 the seventh day being the Sabbath. You mention that Saturn could be seen hovering above the North Pole 24/7 as there was no Sun and Moon. So there was life on Earth and living beings with eyes, but no light, photosynthesis nor oxygen or atmosphere or movement of waters to support that life. Truly weird science!!! If this is what your buying and reading instead of the Holy Bible -"fundy shite books" - I would be asking for a refund! Ancient peoples were primitive in the lack of regard for human suffering. They were worshipping the sun and following the cycles of the moon and stars, through the seasons, but the sun was at the centre of their pagan altars, temples and ceremonies where they offered human sacrifices and did their abominations in order to appease the Sun God, the most powerful.That is why they were destroyed by the One True God. All religions of today have adopted paganism into their rites and traditions, with the exception of the remnant that keep the commandments and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. You haven t answered regarding the triad/trinity connection. In what time period and in what culture was Saturn worshipped as the Sun and when was the change to the Sun made and why? Please refrain from name calling that appears as assenine , immature behaviour. God blessreply Fri, 06/25/2010 - 19:29 DM (not verified) Speculations merit none I know i got to this blog late but maybe one of you speculators will happen back across this comment. The simple truth was, is, and will always be that there is a creator. The infinitive universe cannot be understood by any man. We simply cannot fathom everything that was and still is today. We can guess at or follow

evidence to our own conclusions individually, but will never come to an exact model of how creation began or will end. Our life begins and ends. God s does not. Try a different perspective. Say that it is all true: On the first day God created the light....and so on and so forth. Even with an opposed belief system, imagine what god was doing before that. Now if nothing had been created as of yet, what was? Now away from speculation, the same rule applies. We cannot say for sure whether Saturn was the original "sun", because there are no records of that time. Though, I encourage you to look at hints around you, speculation leads to the thing you are condemning through your "facts". Religion. I choose no religion, but the one i feel and know through my personal relationship with God. I am a christian, but in no way christ-like. I strive to be, but will always fall short; because I am simply a man. The same way of all your speculation falls short, because it is simply speculation. The aformentioned hints such as: The "coincidence" that almost all pre-christian religions viewed saturn as their supreme god. Another being that some of the oldest of these religion s practices have survived millennia hidden from the general public, to be reproduced by those in power today, just as it was in ancient Mesopatamia(see cremation of care). The bible s prophecies in Revelation and Isiah are chillingly fulfilled through America, Europe, and the Middle east of the our time(see escapeallthesethings). The parenthesised keywords should be put into google for best results. Though you could just read the Bible, the vedas, and the hermetic texts. See for yourself the parallel religions do not cancel out one another, but corroborate the underlying story to all these subjects you speculate on. Please read the Bible, look around you, and connect the dots. p.s. im not fully sure the story of the annunaki to be fact or fiction. You said that it has been around for thousands of years, but remember the slabs that the story is recorded on is the only acccount we have of this. And those slabs were "discovered" in very recent years in comparison to the millennia they have "been around". "Take heed let no man decieve you"reply Sun, 06/27/2010 - 10:28 Anonybous (not verified) Re: Speculations merit none This is probably impossible for you, DM - but let s try and keep this thread sensible: Quote: "The simple truth was, is, and will always be that there is a creator." PROVE IT! Truth is ALWAYS provable - the Creatress hides nothing. If it is hidden, obscure, requires third-party priests/ministers/bishops/popes then it is the anti-Christ.reply Thu, 07/01/2010 - 19:53 Christian (not verified) Reply to the anonymous Creatress believer Do you mind enlightening our readers on a couple of things? 1. Where is your eyewitness record or proof that the Creatress actually exists and that she has created all things? 2. How can popes/bishops/ministers/etc be anti Christ, when according to your presented research Jesus doesn t even exist? So how can you even use this concept of Antichrist to define your arguments? 3. Are you aware of the Counter Reformation? 4. Do you always feel the need to control others? Does this sense of supposed power you have over others dominate you? By the way, there were 7 thousand men in Israel that hadn t bowed down to Baal, and were spared along with Elijah. Elijah won the battle against the priests of

Baal. Sorry mate, BUT your whole arguments appear to be warped.reply Thu, 05/20/2010 - 15:55 Anonymous (not verified) reply to: SABBATH Isn t SATURDAY It s Friday Sunset To Saturday OK moron, I ll refrain from calling you doofus.....the triad/trinity is Moon-Sun-Saturn or Isis-Ra-El (Israel) or Queen-King-Jack in a deck of cards. Christianity arose out of the Cult of Sol Invictus - the Cult of the unconquered Sun. The Conquered Sun was Saturn or in Greek mythology Kronos. Kronos was the ruler of the ancient race of Gods called the Titans. Kronos was defeated and deposed by his Son Zeus/Jupiter. Zeus is Je Zeus (pronounced "hey zoos" in all Latin Languages) which means "I Am Zeus" - the letter J is a recent addition to the English language, and has replaced the letters I and H so we render "I Am Zeus" as Jesus. Saturn was the sun, moron....it provided all the heat and light necessary for life. It was considered the creator of all life on this planet as well as the creator of the planet itself. That is why Saturn s Day - the Sabbath - is the holiest of days. All ancient people knew and understood this. Ancient people were not nearly as primitive as you imagine, you arrogant hypocrite. What makes you think that you are so god-dammed intelligent and insightful? Because you have Jesus? You don t even know that you are worshipping Zeus - which is to be dammed and confounded. And you think that you are at the pinnacle of human understanding of cosmic creation - give me a break! You are an example of what happens when humanity devolves. Also, Jehovah is EL in the Old Testament. It only references Him as such about 3,500 times. El is Saturn - look it up. And Jehovah is "hey Hovah" - get out your Strong s Bible Concordance and look up the meaning of Hovah, if you have the balls. It means "calamity, ruin, chaos, naughty penis, mischief, and so on". You Christians are so dumb calling all this shite and misery down upon the Earth every weekend - no wonder the world is such a mess.reply Sat, 07/10/2010 - 15:49 Anony (not verified) Cause & Effect? The Hegelian Dialectic Problem Reaction Solution Cause and effect? The Hegelian Dialectic, problem, reaction, solution? People are allowed to think for themselves and express themselves freely. there is also a duty of care towards one another that has been dissolved by political correctness, you appear to say derogatory comments about Christians they are free to practice their faith, full stop.reply Sun, 07/11/2010 - 10:07 Anonybous (not verified) Reply to Cause & Effect? The Hegelian Dialectic Problem Reaction Anony.....you dumbarse moron.....I don t just appear to say derogatory things about Christians - I AM SAYING DEROGATORY THINGS ABOUT CHRISTIANS!! Of course you are allowed to think for yourself...so, when are you going to do it, shite-for-brains? Your demon-deity Je-Zeus the vile, disgusting destroyer of souls will not help you do it - do it on your own, Mr. full stop. You are an idiot.reply Tue, 07/13/2010 - 22:24 Anony (not verified) Any Person Can Put Their Trust In God Because He Is Faithful. Any person can put their trust in God because He is faithful. King of Kings is going to return in the clouds at the end of this world and the fact that you exist " scoffers in the last days" is just one more proof that Jesus Christ was and always is the way the truth and the light. Pray for Jesus to renew in you a clean heart, to ask for forgiveness of sins and repent and you will be saved and have peace in your heart. Jesus loves you and died for you, remember that next time you begin writing insults about the God you will owe your salvation to.reply

Wed, 07/14/2010 - 10:52 Anonybous (not verified) Re: Any Person Can Put Their Trust In God Because He Is Faithful You pagan false idol demon God worshipping lunatic - we are not in "the last days". The world will go on for eons and morons like you, who lie and believe in lies, will have their souls harvested by the parasites that you choose to follow. Je-Zeus is no more real than the Tooth Fairy - but if he was, he can go suck his own dick like the Dog that he is. What makes you think for even one minute that you are worthy of the "gift" of salvation? Wake up and worship your Mother, fool. She is not going to tolerate your delusional idiocy for much longer. She wants Her children to come into the light - but you have to save yourself.reply Thu, 07/15/2010 - 23:48 Anony (not verified) Reply to Anonybous What abominable things to say against the only begotten Son of God, you should be ashamed of yourself, you can keep your falsehoods but have some dignity and self respect when you share them. Without God life has no meaning, purpose. Without Christ mankind would have been lost forever. The goodness of man is turned into corruption without the Holy Spirit abiding in the heart. There is no more purpose in future discussions because you are as Balaam was, perhaps worse, God only knows. God forgive you for your hateful words against Him, the Majesty of Heaven, the Living God that sustains the Universe, for you do not know what you say or do when you insult and mock Him.The real Jesus is not Tammuz and you know this. There are two gospels and two Christs. Take some of your precious time and actually read the New Testament Epistles of Paul before you go on some vengeful Satanic crusade against His people. Jesus withstood the agony of Gethsemane and the cross and thats how you thank Him? He took the sins of all humanity upon Him and this is your gratitude? He lived a selfless life thinking and living only to heal and help others and you call him a demon idol!What arrogance and ingratitude! Salvation belongs to those who accept Christ and keep His commandments, whether by their conscience or by the decalogue. It is not for you to decide whether a person is saved or not, it should be your business to heed God s warning messages in His word and to repent, which is what all men must do to accept the offer of salvation. The choice is yours.reply Fri, 07/16/2010 - 10:41 Anonybous (not verified) Reply to Anony It s simple - give one piece of solid evidence that the object of your delusion (aka Je-Zeus) actually existed, you moronic demon-worshipper. I ll shut up if you do. But you can t, and you know it - which makes you a petty lying henchman of Ba al sucking on the haemorrhoid sticking out of his anus. It is time for you to apologise to your Mother and repent that you have chosen to suck a cock rather than a teat, which is what all men must do to accept the offer of salvation. The choice is yours.reply Sat, 07/17/2010 - 20:52 Anony (not verified) Re: Reply to Anony Why dont you take a look at the Bible and then take a look at archeology/history and the world around us and lets just say for arguments sake, non christian religions and there concepts and lets see which is as obsessed on sex and the perversions you describe: 1. The Ten Commandments and the entire Torah. Stating that a married relationship is the only relationship that allows for the union of one husband and wife and sexual relations.

2. The ministry of Jesus of Nazareth, who was born of a virgin and died upholding the Torah priesthood and laws, being the perfection of human nature and character and moral purity. Who judged not the adulterer, nor the sins of the people, healing them and reconciling them to the Father and Only True God. His life is a testament to the capacity of man to live as he taught. Forgiving people of their sins and teaching them that they needed to live with a renewed heart and mind. His bride is the church, so He too upholds what God teaches in the word of God. Thus He and He alone could only be the true Christ. 3. The qualities of the people who wish to qualify for eternal life as described in the Epistles of Paul, the Books of 2Peter, Timothy and lets John. 1,2,3.Describing that the Apostles were once fornicators and sinful people but were transformed by the Holy Word of God disciples. 4. That true love is the love of the Father and the Son. Agape not forget St and adulterers into his love, represented

as love and service and self sacrifice to our fellow man, philadelphia, hence why Christians are called brothers and sisters, They are as God s children now, in His family, Sons and daughters by adoption a part of the spiritual body of Christ, spiritual Isreal made up of all nations, tribes abd people s and languages. VERSUS 1. The Kama Sutra, a book likened to modern day pornogaphy filled with all kinds of sexual acts that are channelling worship to pagan gods and goddesses. 2. The worship of the Phallus as testified by the ancient temples of Luxor in Egypt. Take a good look at the inscriptions of the pagan sex cults bordering the top of the walls around this temple. 3. The sex cults of Ancient Rome and Greece. Where orgies were held in broad daylight and young women and men were forced from their families to worship these false gods and perform vile acts to those perverse enough to debase themselves and exploit other people s children, wives, brothers and sisters etc. 4. Semiramus marrying her son Tammuz, commiting peodophilia and lying about him saying that he was Nimrod reincarnated. So once again, where do you get your anti christian information from? The problem is that Christianity is being attacked in Western Countries by all these so called enlightened religions that sell their own children for prostitution money. God is completely against the exploitation of children and Jesus was the greatest human rights advocate that ever lived. The meaning of religion is to care for those who are widows, meaning the elderly ones and the fatherless. Whoever proclaims that they are Christ s followers and engage in sexually abusing children is a false representative and abomination to God. You really need to read the Bible and ask God to reveal the truth. Why should you continue to believe these lies and make all of these shocking statements against Jesus. Read God s words for yourself in his Holy Word the Bible and see that you will be humbled and in awe of the Majesty of this Great and Wonderful Father of Lights and all of Creation. There is no cosmic mother, there is only Satan, and his androgynous duality who is transforming himself into an angel of light , then the prince of darkness and also trying to claim Mary s title as the Mother of God, the Queen of Heaven and people flock to this charismatic movements not heeding Christ s words not to worship idols.The only way to the Father is through the Son. Mary was the greatest mother that lived for she bore Jesus and taught him the Mosiac Laws and understood and supported his ministry and his purpose on earth. Eve is the mother of all living and although she sinned she will be pardoned through the blood of the Lamb of God who taketh away the sin of this world. Semiramis is the queen of heaven that Israel apostasised and began to worship baking cakes to in the old testament.She is known by many

various names in a lot of religions but it is the same concept. This apostasy of the peculiar people that God chose to be his light to the spiritually dark pagan world was an abomination to him and still is. What more is there to say, what proof are you seeking, what can be given you that you would honestly accept? Jesus will show you that he is real if you sincerely ask him too. Just the fact that you live on this remarkably beautiful earth is proof enough. Nature is proof, creation is proof, the human body is proof. The most gifted and intellectual human beings that ever lived believed in the God of the Bible and that is as a grain of sand on the sea shore. Humble your heart to Jesus, the one you consider your enemy and be transformed by the renewing of your mind. In Christian love, God s peace and bless you on your journey in this life.reply Sun, 07/18/2010 - 19:52 Anonybous (not verified) Reply to Anony I am an historian, you dimwit. Where is the proof in anything that you wrote? I ve asked God to reveal the truth - but he hasn t. Maybe you could ask him for me? Apparently you are able to talk directly to him. But are you sure that "him" is really God? He could be deceiving you - after all, the great Balthazaar is the arch deceiver. Maybe you could bring "him" to my house? I ll salt all the window sills and doorstops, hang the garlic and get some silver bullets just in case. Come on...what s the big deal? You claim that Jesus will show me if I am sincere - you are sincere...he ll obviously do it if you ask, won t he? What proof has he shown you? On the topic of sex and orgies, what about all those paedophile priests? Christianity is the BIGGEST sexual abuser of children on the planet!!!! You need to humble your heart, you deluded, arrogant, pustule on the bum of Beelzebub. Renew your own feeble mind. The sooner that you are off this planet the better for we humans. Stupid, delusional dumbf**ks like you are the real enemy because you are one of the droids keeping this inhuman, cruel machine of destruction going. It is f**kwits like you that are holding humanity back in the fight against the psychopathic corporate monstrosity that is raping and pillaging this planet. May the blessed Mother forgive your sorry arse - and kick it to Jupiter (Zeus) where you belong. People like you and your damned and confounded Je-Zeus are the real abominations. Take your "Christian" love and shove it up your penis-seeking anus. Then go and explain to all those abused children how "Christian" love is good for them, you stinking hypocrite. The Mother takes a very dim view of those that abuse Her children - she will crush and extinguish your soul if you keep it up (or in any way whatsoever help someone who does - has any of your money fallen into the hands of a deviant?) You are going to be very, very sorry.reply Thu, 07/22/2010 - 08:01 bg (not verified) Saturn If you are Dave Talbott you re more of a hardass than i thought! Anyway, its good to see someone else is interested in this stuff. I thought the 3 part god was Saturn as Ra, venus as Isis and mars as horus. where did you get the info that the Saturn system originated in Orion? what is the significance of Sirius? how old do you think the earth is? can you recommend

any research materials beyond Cardona s works? any info as to when Cardona s next installment is due? is there a source for a possible timeline from Saturn s creation of the earth through the golden age and the catastrophes etc? thanksreply Thu, 07/22/2010 - 14:00 Anonybous (not verified) Reply to Saturn As above, so below. A Solar System is is a "body" similar to yours. The Earth is countless billions of years old and was once the base chakra of the Saturnian body. There was a war between the 3rd dimension of Orion and the 3rd dimension of Sirius, which resulted in Orion being defeated. To save some of the "souls" of Orion, its brightest star was shifted here and the "body" dismembered. Jupiter was a major player in this happening - Jupiter (Zeus) overthrew Saturn (Cronus) in classical mythology. The original "indigenous" inhabitants of the Earth are from Orion. They were all heavily melanated. Later came melanated people from the Illysian Fields of Sirius - they created the empires of Atlantis and Lemuria probably 50,000+ years ago. Later still came souls with much Karmic baggage from the Pleiades - probably no more than 6,000 years ago. They are the white people created in the Garden of Eden in what is now the Amazon. After the destruction of these empires (which were matriarchal), the white people gained control of the planet. They were probably helped by the "reptilians" that arrived from Andromeda. This ancient knowledge is kept by the secret societies such as Fremasonry and has been corrupted and used to keep the vast bulk of humanity in servitude. The Earth was once much smaller and gravity was much less - so everything on Earth was much bigger. It had mega-Fauna and mega-Flora. There were giants on Earth in those days. It was the Golden Age. But, as the earth is growing (expanding), gravity is increasing and the "physicality" of everything is getting greater - this is resulting in the reduction of consciousness that is all around us. Check this site out: http://eearthk.com/Readings.html The Earth has undergone several catastrophes. I do not know when Cardona s next book is coming out. Most of this information comes from the Moorish Science Temple in the US. The Sun is very young compared to all the planets.reply Sun, 08/08/2010 - 10:24 sceptic (not verified) Reply to Moorish Science Were you an eyewitness to any of these events? Where is the eyewitness testimony that you get your information from? Can anything about what you say be proven by the laws of nature and science? "Is this system based on astrology? Where is the relevance to any of this to solving mans problems? Where is the basis for governing human life and the universe? Who is the intelligence behind the designs? Where is the proof that the bible is wrong and what you believe right? Why are christian believers wrong and what you believe right? Or do you speak to aliens personally? Where is the proof that God doesn t exist, have you seen him? Did you know that the Islamic religion, according to eyewitness testimony and its teachings is one of the biggest abuser of human rights on earth? Where is your incontrovertible proof that Jesus is not real nor was resurrected from the dead? Were you also studying sociology as well as history? What part of history did you miss?reply Sun, 08/08/2010 - 18:26 Anonybous (not verified) Where is the proof that God doesn t exist, have you seen him? Of course I haven t seen him, you moron! If I had, then he would exist. Why ask that stupid question? "Can anything about what you say be proven by the laws of nature and science?"

There is mountains of scientific evidence - just start researching. YOU CAN T SOLVE ANY OF MAN S PROBLEMS UNTIL YOU HAVE CORRECT KNOWLEDGE. You cannot understand the present until you know the past. They have taken away all our power by feeding us crap about our time and place in the universe. The true spirituality of western mankind was once one system that incorporated Astrology, Numerology, Tarot and Kabbalah. It was replaced by the cartoonish Bible, Koran and Torah. I don t speak to aliens - but I do know that Christians are a pox, a herpes and a pestulant plague upon this Earth. The turds that come out of my arse each day have more intelligence and are far more useful than any Christian can ever be. Are you claiming that the Islamic religion has abused more people than Christianity has over the centuries? Didn t you go to school? Take your idiocy somewhere else, you supporter of paedophilia.reply Sun, 08/08/2010 - 21:07 long live the king (not verified) Response To Anonybous There are people who have seen God and spoken to him and his angels and witnessed his Son s life, death and resurrection. They have recorded their eyewitness testimony in the Bible. Once again, where is your eyewitness testimony and incontrovertible proof that God does not exist and the createress is really god and you have seen her, spoken to her and know her life story from eyewitness accounts. If you can prove that God doesn t exist then you have a point. If you cannot prove that he does not exist then you should heed the saying "silence is golden". Otherwise, to use your logic is just as useful as a "turd in a toilet bowl."reply Mon, 08/09/2010 - 19:51 Anonybous (not verified) I will never say another nasty word about Christians if.... You claim that there were people that witnessed the resurrection. You and all Christians should agree that without the resurrection there is no basis for your faith. Paul wrote (1 Corinthians 15:14-15): And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ: whom He raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. Well, I will never say another nasty word about Christians if you tell me, exactly, what happened on Easter Sunday. I am not asking for proof - simply everything that the Bible says happened. The relevant parts in the Bible are: Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, John 20-21, Acts 1:3-12 and Pauls version in 1 Corinthians 15:3-8. Since the gospels dont always give precise times of day, please make educated guesses. But, the account must be plausible, without the omission of a single detail from each of the separate Biblical verses, in chronological order. Simply tell me what happened first, second and so on; who said what, when; and where these things happened. Questions that I would like answered are: What time did the women visit the tomb? Who were the women? What was their purpose? Was the tomb opened when they arrived? Who was at the tomb when they arrived? Where were these messengers situated? What did the messengers say? Did the women tell what happened? When Mary returned from the tomb, did she know that Jesus had been resurrected? When did Mary first see Jesus? Could Jesus be touched after the resurrection? After the women, to whom did Jesus appear? Where did Jesus first appear to the disciples? Did the disciples believe the two men? What happened at the appearance?

Did Jesus stay on earth for a while? Where did the ascension take place? Was there a great earthquake? If there was, why did only one person notice? This person also noticed that, at the crucifixion, dead people emerged from the graves of Jerusalem and walked around showing themselves to everyone. This is an amazing event, even for those magical days, but it has escaped the notice of all the other gospel writers and all other historians of the period as well. This request might appear to be pedantic, but I am not the one claiming to have a personal relationship with a supernatural being from another dimension. Im not the one claiming that the earth was created in six days; that women come from a mans rib; that a snake, a donkey, and a burning bush all spoke human language; that the entire world was flooded, covering the mountains, simply to drown some evil people; that all animal species, millions of them, rode on one boat; that language variations stem from the tower of Babel; that Moses had a magic wand; that the Nile turned to blood; that a stick turned into a snake; that witches, wizards and sorcerers really exist; that food rained from the sky for forty years; that people were cured by the sight of a brass serpent; that the sun stood still to help Joshua win a battle, and it went backward for King Hezekiah; that men survived unaided in a fiery furnace; that a detached hand floated in the air and wrote on a wall; that men followed a star which directed them to a particular house; that Jesus walked on water unaided; that fish and bread magically multiplied to feed the hungry; that water instantly turned into wine; that mental illness is caused by demons; that a devil with wings actually exists who causes all the evil in the world; that people were healed by stepping into a pool agitated by angels; that disembodied voices spoke from the sky; that Jesus vanished and later materialized from thin air; that people were healed by Peters shadow; that angels broke people out of jail; that a fiery lake of eternal torment awaits unbelievers under the earth while there is life-after-death in a city which is 1,500 cubic miles, with mansions and food, for Christians only! Surely outrageous claims like these require some proof? These stories (myths?) violate natural law, contradict science and fail to correspond with reality or logic. If you cant see that, then you cant separate truth from fantasy. Maybe you have a spiritual sense that most people lack? That is really saying that God exists, but you need a special sense to see Him. You may as well claim that the only people who are qualified to make a judgment about the existence of Santa Claus are those who have personally met Santa Claus. What if I were to insist that I have had experiences which prove that your experience is a psychological delusion? Would you take my word for it? I gather that you believe that your true citizenship is in heaven and that this world is merely a stepping stone to getting there. That makes you an extraterrestrial! My experience tells me that I am an earthling an intelligent human being a citizen of this universe. I am not inherently evil, I possess the positive, rational potential to help make this a place of morality and joy, and I do not need to derive meaning and purpose from some other supernatural mind. That cannot be said for you soulless droids that believe such obvious drivel...but, here is your chance to shut me up for good. Go for it - waste some of your precious time, you morons. I ll be waiting.reply Sun, 08/15/2010 - 19:27 Anonybous (not verified) I will never say another nasty word about Christians if.... It has been 10 days, and not a single reply from any Christian. You gutless bunch of weak-liverd terds. At least have a go, you cowards!!!!! You jump over every statement that doesn t agree with your narrow view of reality, but when a serious challenge to your own distorted view arises, you go all silent. Come on!!!!!!!!!

Someone take up the challenge!!!!!! You can t, can you, you servants of Satan! You are all liars and hypocrites!!! Answer my questions or never post here again. You are all consigned to hell, anyway. That shut you up, didn t it!!!!!! Everybody, please take notice.reply Mon, 08/16/2010 - 21:38 CHRIST TRIUMPHANT (not verified) REPLY TO MR AND MRS ANONYBOUS How original. Some people have a lot of idle time to spare at taxpayers expense and very little patience, why the fear and the hurry? you know everything already dont you anonybous and co? why do you need to scream and carry on for an explanation? you are all right or so you all think because you have set a trap as the pharisees did to Christ. The trap they set is for themselves as little do the blind guides recognise that they lead the blind and both will fall in. Every question you wrote verifies the truth of the resurrection of Christ and the fact that the pharisees knew he was crucified but invented and bribed the Romans and false witnesses suggests they had something to hide about the reality of the only begotten Son of God. do you need more proof of the resurrection? read desire of ages by eg white a true prophet. every beat of your heart and breath of your mouth that curses God was ordained by him.as He says, By their words they are justified and by their words they are condemned. what the cost of freedom and living in a free country, some will never comprehend. people lose their lives for the words " Jesus Christ my Lord has arisen " everyday and you take it for granted, repugnant fool/s. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Do the Resurrection accounts HOPELESSLY contradict one another? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Accordingly, I want to approach this in four points: The absolute necessity of conjecture in historical reconstructions; The significance of different details in the accounts (from the standpoint of evidence) The legitimacy of harmonization attempts relative to historical material; The issue of "plausibility" of explanations. Several specific reconstructions/sequencing of the post-resurrection events (or appearances of Christ) The absolute necessity of conjecture in historical reconstructions Anybody that has "done" any history knows that the "just the facts" position above is simply absurd. History is reconstructive in its concrete practicality. To show this, it is sufficient to simply cite passages from standard works/textbooks on historical method. "Science deals with concrete things that can be touched, weighed, measured, and evaluated under laboratory conditions. Science deals with concrete, verifiable objects. History, on the other hand, does not deal with materials that can be touched, weighed, and measured. History is inferential i.e., it infers the past on the basis of partially known facts. True, the historian makes use of some concrete materials in his work, such as documents, diaries, newspapers, and contemporary accounts in his investigations, but from these he must infer the past. He cannot weigh or measure these materials as the scientist can weigh or measure his materials." [History: Meaning and Method, by Donald V. Gawronski, Scott Foresman:1969 (rev. ed), p. 4.] "Characteristically historical explanations can be described in the first instance as such explanations of the deeds of men (individuals, groups, nations,

etc.) as conform to the logical pattern and evidential conditions which define characteristically genetic explanations. As with characteristically genetic, so with characteristically historical explanations: there are some in which the antecedent is among the facts already known to or accepted by the historian, and others in which it has to be inferred. Cases of the latter sort are no doubt more characteristic of history, since they include the great majority of those in which the emphasized necessary antecedent is a motive or a belief or a decision or a communication received or a principle or policy or precept adhered to by some agent; and certainly such explanations involve important features and difficulties of their own. But for the purpose of establishing and articulating the general function of characteristically historical explanations, it will be best to concentrate at the outset upon cases of the former sort, i.e. those in which the emphasized antecedent necessary condition is a fact already known.." [W. B. Galle, "Explanations in History and the Genetic Sciences" in Patrick Gardiner, ed., Theories of History, The Free Press: 1959; p. 395] "Inference is the process of reasoning from facts that are not entirely connected. It is used to fill gaps in the record or to supply connections between bits or classes of evidence. To call it informed invention is possibly overly-pessimistic. At any rate, it should be done tentatively, provisionally, even modestly. Although this type of reasoning or interpretation is as chancy as the assignment of causes, in most investigations it must be used. Remember, that all inferences are probabilistic. An inference may even be thought of as an hypothesis; that is, a suggestion as to relationships between facts. The process is to some extent intuitive, undemonstrable, partially free of fact; but it should cling to whatever facts are available. It is not mechanical, but a creative process. It is not, however, inventive in the sense that fiction is contrived. The historian may not move the first voyage of Columbus to 1516 to suit his whim." [A Guide to Historical Method, Edited by Robert Jones Shafer, Dorsey Press: 1974 (rev. ed.); pp. 182-183.] This demonstrates the widespread use of inference in historical inquiry. Now let s look at how inference actually works in historical reconstructions. The following somewhat generalized model of inquiry illuminates some substantive methodological, issues in history. John Dewey first formulated this model, but Karl Popper has subsequently, with slightly altered and more formal emphasis, adopted and refined it. By it, one should be able to say that a historian, confronted with, and in some way baffled or disturbed by, disparate phenomena that seem to give evidence for some human past, begins to construct imaginary accounts or narratives, perhaps including within them several causal judgments, in an attempt to unify and make some sense out of all the confusing phenomena; that he constantly checks each invented story against a residue of acquired knowledge (vicarious verification) as well as against the focal phenomena, that he keeps up this game until he finds a story consistent with what he already knows, and which gives some pattern to his phenomena (or most of them); that his narrative also almost inevitably implicates phenomena; that he then, either directly or (desired phenomenon A necessitates B, and B have the same evidential significance as A) other, as yet unexperienced by inferential, deductive chaining necessitates C, which if found will seeks out the specifically indicated

evidence, knowing always that one unpredicted and noncoherent phenomenon will falsify his story; that he keeps restructuring his story until, finally, with the most diligent search of all evidence then available, he has so integrated the original phenomena and the induced phenomena as to have a quite unified, plausible, and supported account (as well as, we hope, an eloquent and dramatic story), although he knows that falsifying evidence could turn up at any time and that, most often, his story is most tentative because of the many probable inferences that had to go into it....How does this model fit historical practice? Perhaps better than the working historian thinks. [The Heritage and Challenge of History, Paul K. Conkin and Roland N. Stromberg, Dodd, Mead, & Co.: 1971; pp. 214-215) The "Net": What this means for us is simple: we are SUPPOSED to come up with glue explanations, plausible conjectures, and hypothetical narratives --to weave the historical facts into a comprehensible whole. It is simply historical method that dictates that we will try to integrate (via interconnections and "induced" facts) the various historical data we have. It is not special pleading or speculation --anymore that constructing a history of Tiberius from the disparate and wildly divergent sources of Tacitus, Suetonius, Velleius Paterculus, and Dio Cassius would be. History is composed of inferential thinking and hypotheses. The significance of different details in the accounts (from the standpoint of evidence) No one disputes that the surface structure of the Easter narratives contains a large number of differences in details. The narratives themselves are not complete, of course, since each author selected only the details relevant to his literary purpose; so we would expect SOME LEVEL of complementary information (which is sometimes interpreted as contradiction !), but the amount of these surface differences has historically been quite a discomfort to the casual reader or beginning student. In actual fact, however, these differences serve both to (1) tip us off to the author s intended purpose (e.g. what facts from a shared body of information did the author SELECT to include)--VERY important to exegesis; and to (2) lend additional weight to the credibility of the accounts! While it might seem odd to a reader to say that the apparent discrepancies between the narratives ENHANCES THE CREDIBILITY of those narratives(!), this is exactly what experts in evidence say. So, retired judge and lawyer/solicitor/barrister Herbert C. Casteel (Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, College Press: 1992, 2nd rev.; p. 211ff): "The internal evidence of the resurrection accounts: Each of the four Gospels gives an account of that first Easter Sunday when Jesus arose from the tomb. When we first read these accounts it appears they are in hopeless contradiction. Matthew says it was Mary Magdalene and the other Mary who went out to the tomb. Mark says it was Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome. Luke says it was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them, and John mentions only Mary Magdalene. Furthermore, they all mention different people to whom Jesus appeared on that day. Does this mean that these are false reports, made-up by dishonest men to deceive us? On the contrary, this is good evidence that these are truthful accounts, because people who conspire to testify to a falsehood rehearse carefully to

avoid contradictions. False testimony appears on the surface to be in harmony, but discrepancies appear when you dig deeper. True accounts may appear on the surface to be contradictory, but are found to be in harmony when you dig deeper." Indeed, legal writer Clifford, in discussing the "minor variations test" for authenticity of evidence, notes that differences are EXPECTED from witnesses (Leading Lawyers Case for the Resurrection Canadian Institute for Law, Theology, and Public Policy, Inc: 1991, 1996; p. 61): "The minor variations test. ... Whilst truthful witnesses complement each other, a judge would not expect them to describe the same incidents in precisely the same way. If they did, that would point to conspiracy. Sometimes there may not be total uniformity in the order of events. One anticipates variations when two or more people testify about the same incident." It is interesting that the most in-depth recent work on these events, by John Wenham, a biblical scholar (Easter Enigma, Baker: 1992, rev. ed.) describes a SIMILAR pattern. So, pp.10-11: "I first became interested in the subject in 1945 when living in Jerusalem not far from the old walled city. I got to know the sites in and around the city intimately. I had no real doubts that the gospel writers were honest and well informed people, providentially equipped by God to give the church a sound account of these events, but I was by no means committed to the view that the accounts were correct in every detail. Indeed I was impressed in my early studies of the resurrection stories by the seemingly intractable nature of the discrepancies. It is by no means easy to see how these things can be fitted together while remaining strictly faithful to what the writers say. But an insatiable curiosity made me want to know who did what and why each writer put things so. Reading all I could and studying the Greek text carefully, I gradually found many of the pieces of the jigsaw coming together. It now seems to me that these resurrection stories exhibit in a remarkable way the well-known characteristics of accurate and independent reporting, for superficially they show great disharmony, but on close examination the details gradually fall into place." Finally, consider the comment by German classical historian Hans Stier: "the sources for the resurrection of Jesus, with their relatively big contradictions over details, present for the historian for this very reason a criterion of extraordinary credibility." (Cited in BLOM:103, who points out that we would prefer to add the word "apparent" in front of his word choice of "contradictions"...) The point should be clear--the surface structure IS puzzling; but instead of casting doubt on the passages, this structure actually turns out to be a reason to accord the narratives higher credibility. Now, this credibility can only last so long as the accounts can still be reasonably and honestly synchronized. And Wenham, who is a biblical scholar and NOT a legal practitioner, is aware of the patterns of credible reporting. Thus, the the differences in the accounts are very IMPORTANT to us--they give us additional reason to trust the testimony of these men who died to get this message of Jesus to us, and they give us important assistance in helping us understand this message! The legitimacy of harmonization attempts relative to historical material; We have already seen above that building an "imaginary narrative" that is essentially integrative, from "all the confusing phenomena," is the essence of historical method. So, harmonization --the attempt to render a unified narrative from disparate narratives--should be understood as a legitimate step in this process. But even though it is standard practice in classical historiography, many biblical scholars in the modern vein scorn such methods

(BLOM:8-9): "In today s academic world, any biblical scholar who sets out to harmonize the gospels risks severe criticism from his or her colleagues. Some of this criticism is justified; some is not. On the one hand, it cannot be stressed too strongly that seeking responsibly to reconcile seemingly discordant testimony is the task of every historian, whether dealing with the biblical literature or with any other work of purported history, ancient or modern. Although the traditional desire to harmonize the gospels stems from a belief in their uniquely sacred nature, secular historians also regularly fit together apparently conflicting testimony in a way which vindicates the integrity of all the witnesses involved. Gilbert Garraghan s standard historiography textbook emphasizes that almost any critical history that discusses the evidence for important statement will furnish examples of discrepant or contradictory accounts and the attempts which are made to reconcile them. [the note cites Gilbert Garragha, A Guide to Historical Method (Westport CT: Greenwood, 1973, p. 314)]." Not only is harmonization a basic and standard tool of the historian; it is likewise a rigorous and DAILY tool of those who "get paid" to evaluate evidence--the legal profession! So, the biblical scholar Gleason Archer (who was ALSO a law graduate!!) points out how far from reality many of the biblical critics are (Ency. Of Bible Diff., p. 315): Bible critics who have never had any training in the laws of evidence may decry the harmonistic method all they wish; but, like it or not, it is essentially the harmonistic method that is followed every day that court is in session throughout the civilised world. This method has a very definite bearing on valid procedures in biblical criticism as well as in the practical conduct of a tort or criminal action, or even a contract case in a court of law, today. Then the critics would find that most of their artificial, logically fallacious and basically biased approaches to the text of Holy Scripture would be successfully challenged by even the most inexperienced attorney and thrown out by the presiding judge. Evangelicals agree that forced harmonizing (of which there are many, many comical and/or deplorable examples!) is illegitimate, but that the opposite extreme of dismissing exegetical efforts to follow standard historical praxis is likewise foolish. Wenham points out the sad situation that occurs when scholars "give up too easily" and do not do the necessary spadework and required historical investigation to build a true view of an event (EE:128): "Of course, the individuality of different writers must be respected, and the distinctive aims of different works (where these can be discerned) must be taken into account. Forced harmonizing is worthless. The tendency today, however, is the opposite--to force the New Testament writings into disharmony, in order to emphasize their individuality. The current analytical approach to the gospels often has the effect of making scholars more and more uncertain at more and more points, till eventually their view of Jesus and his teaching is lost in haze. The harmonistic approach, on the other hand, enables one to ponder long and conscientiously over every detail of the narrative and to see how one account illuminates and modifies another. Gradually (without fudging) people and events take shape and grow in solidity and the scenes come to life in one s mind. Such study is beautifully constructive and helps to vindicate the presuppositions on which it is based. It is sad and strange when immense learning leads to little knowledge of the person studied. One thing is certain: Jesus was a concrete, complex and fascinating figure of history, and any method of study which fails

to reveal him as such is working on the wrong lines". Notice that Wenham points out that the differences in the accounts CAN BE important clues to the aims of the writers, and that harmonization must not be forced or fudged. As an example of harmonization done right, let s look at an example by Wenham himself (EE:p.128): "Matthew mentions Mary Magdalene and the other Mary at the burial and as setting out for the tomb. The angel speaks to "the women," who "ran to tell his disciples. And behold, Jesus met them."(27:55f.,61;28:1,5,8f.) If we had only Matthew we should take "the women" and "them" to be the Marys. But complicated movements of five women were apparently involved--Mary Magdalene left before the women entered the tomb, and the notifying of disciples required visits both to John s house and to Bethany. Probably only "the other Mary" was present at every point in the story and "the women" and "them" do not refer precisely to the two mentioned by name. Matthew is giving the detail necessary to convey his message, further elaboration would have been pointless distraction. He could of course have avoided any question by saying at verse 1 certain women , but this would have been unnecessarily vague. His mention of Mary Magdalene and Mary of Clopas would have been suitable for three reasons: 1. It was they who set out together from Bethany as described at the beginning of his account. 2. Mary Magdalene was of special importance since she was the first person to see Jesus. 3. Mary of Clopas, however, was the one who was present throughout his whole narrative. Although he leaves out many details his is a judicious and accurate statement of what happened." Notice that this account has all the elements of historical inquiry--both conjectural and "imaginary" as well as supportive--e.g.,the "three reasons". It does NOT assume that the authors were under some kind of constraint to provide a list of all the incidental characters in the story--they only needed to marshal the relevant details for their specific literary intent and purpose. The point should be clear by now: harmonization is a standard, essential part of BOTH historical inquiry AND legal assessment of testimony of witnesses. As such, it is not alien to the biblical students task, nor is it something to be practiced woodenly. The student of ANY history (not just biblical history) is not only sanctioned in the praxis of harmonization, but he or she is literally compelled to do--under the methodological norms of historiography. The issue of "plausibility" of explanations. "Plausibility" is a notoriously subjective concept, and one that engages epistemologists to no end. Oxford dictionaries define "plausible" as "seeming reasonable or probable", but this will not get us very far. What seems "reasonable" to one may seem unreasonable to another. "Reasonable" could entail simply the notion can I can make a "rational" argument--one in which a conclusion is supported by some appeal to accepted premises or evidence. In the case of "reasonable", all one has to do is demonstrate that the explanation under question is POSSIBLE, given what we know about the situation and players in the scenario under study. "Probability" is, however, of somewhat more strength, but is still very loaded. Probability would need to be greater than 25-30%, say, for something to be considered plausible , but even the determination of some "threshold" percentage will be difficult in historical events. Given this somewhat ambiguous criterion, let s examine two skeptical passages to

see how this plausibility criterion plays out. First, let me advance a passage from Dr. Robert Price s work Beyond Born Again, who is quite vocal in his insistence that the accounts cannot be harmonized (and that harmonization attempts are evidence AGAINST the evangelical position). [I am going to insert [letter marks] in the quote to facilitate my comments.] From his Chapter 6: "The most embarrassing divergence between the narratives revolves around the spectacular scene in Matthew. [A] In this version, the women are treated to the sight of a luminous angel flying down, causing an earthquake, and heaving the stone away from the empty tomb, and all this in full view of posted guards! [B] The problem is that the other evangelists somehow seem to have forgotten to mention the guards and the whole sequence of events! Certainly if all this had really taken place, the women could not help but have included it in every telling of their story, and no gospel writer could have failed to use these facts had he known them. [C, D] In a gospel otherwise known for midrashic expansion (e.g., the addition of Peter walking on the water), it would not seem improbable that we have an unhistorical addition here. "[E] "The reader has probably seen some attempts to harmonize some of the discrepancies between the gospel accounts. The precarious and contrived nature of the result should make anyone hesitant to base much on it. [F] But let us suppose these texts could all be harmonized. The value of the accounts as evidence for the resurrection would still be greatly lessened. The very admission of the need to harmonize is an admission that the burden of proof is on the narratives, not on those who doubt them. What harmonizing shows is that despite appearances, the texts still might be true. This is a different thing than saying that the texts as they stand probably are true, that the burden of proof is on the person who would overturn this supposedly unambiguous evidence for the resurrection. Conservative apologists often ignore all the discrepancies, or after they have harmonized them, they continue to pretend the texts constitute unambiguously positive evidence." [G] Now let me make a few comments about this passage. [A]: Just a minor note--Dr. Price here considers this the WORST case of divergence. It would be "plausible" then, to suppose that if this situation is resolvable plausibly , then we might have a higher confidence that other cases might be resolvable as well. [B]: It is critical to our study to recognize what Dr. Price does in this sentence. He makes an exegetical decision, and without defending it against evangelical alternatives (in a book avowed designed to appeal to such), uses it as premise in his argument. Let s see this in slow motion... The passage that he refers to is Matthew 28.1ff: After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb. 2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. 5 The angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him. Now I have told you." 8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. What Dr. Price has assumed without argument is the chronological sequence that appears in the English translation (e.g. women-go-to-tomb, followed by angel-earthquake, followed by stone-movement, followed by guards-go-comatose, followed by angel-announcement to the women.) This interpretation depends on the Greek word (ginomai) rendered "There was..." in verse two. The verb is the standard one rendered "at it came to pass..." or

"it came to be". The issue is that it is in the aorist tense--a rather undifferentiated verbal structure that pushes attention away from itself. The verb is generally NOT USED by itself to make a point of chronological sequence; the gospel writers depend on other additional words to make sequence clear (as we would use constructions like "and then.." or "subsequently..." or "after this"). The aorist makes NO STATEMENT whatsoever about itself. Indeed, biblical writers use series of aorists as the narrative skeleton, upon which to throw a present tense or future tense to stand out and get our attention. The aorist is simply the "room in which" the events occur. So, the aorist can be translated "was" and can ALSO be translated by an English pluperfect ("had been"). For example, aorists occur in main clauses (as here) in Matthew 14.3, Mark 8.14, and Lk 8.27b and the NIV reflects this temporal nuance: At that time Herod the tetrarch heard the reports about Jesus, 2 and he said to his attendants, "This is John the Baptist; he has risen from the dead! That is why miraculous powers are at work in him." 3 Now Herod had arrested (aorist tense) John and bound him and put him in prison because of Herodias, his brother Philip s wife, (Matt 14.1-3; Note that verse 3--the aorist--is used to explain background and historically PRIOR material.) Then he left them, got back into the boat and crossed to the other side. 14 The disciples had forgotten (aorist tense) to bring bread, except for one loaf they had with them in the boat. 15 "Be careful," Jesus warned them. (Mark 8.13-15; the aorist in vs. 14 is used to explain background and historically PRIOR material.) When Jesus stepped ashore, he was met by a demon-possessed man from the town. For a long time this man had not worn (aorist) clothes or lived in a house, but had lived in the tombs. 28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell at his feet, (Luke 8.27f; the aorist in vs. 27 is used to explain background and historically PRIOR material.) What this means is that there is an inherent ambiguity in the Greek construction here. Dr. Price has made an exegetical decision (on unknown grounds) and IT IS HIS DECISION that generates the "most embarrassing divergence". There literally IS no "divergence" or "convergence" until the exegetical decision is made--[hmmm...would this be called a "Schroedinger Contradiction"?...sorry, ;>)] Wenham, on the other hand, takes this ambiguity under study, asking questions about historical possibility and normal usage (EE:78): "We have to remember that first century writers had to work without the help of such modern aids as parenthesising brackets, and that, since Greeks care little about relative time, the use of the pluperfect tense was much less favoured by them than by us. Often in the New Testament the aorist tense needs to be rendered by an English pluperfect. So Matthew 28:2 could be inserted in brackets and translated with no impropriety: (And behold there had been a great earthquake. For an angel of the Lord had descended from heaven, and had come and rolled back the stone, and sat upon it. His appearance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow. And for fear of him the guards had trembled and become like dead men.) "Such a translation, however, exaggerates the element of relative time in a manner alien to the Greek (or, for that matter, Semitic) mind. W.E. Brown, commenting on Matthew s usage, here makes some interesting remarks about the methods of ancient historiography: "The great historians of the nineteenth century learned to solve their problems

by keeping to a chronological order. Such a practice is strictly speaking impossible unless the narration is confined to one person or to one locality .... Earlier chroniclers had tackled the difficulty in two ways. Sometimes they incorporated in a single story a number of actions and speeches which had a common theme, not indicating at all the time of the occurrence. Sometimes they jumped back and forward between two or more parallel sequences of events, leaving it to the reader to understand that each item is as it were a flash on a cinema screen." Wenham then applies this "plausible" reconstruction (based on other, known usages and "control data") to the sequence in the passage and comes out here (EE:78): "We may thus conclude that the earthquake took place before the arrival of any women and that the terrified guards had already left by the time they arrived. It was presumably a recurrence of the earth tremors which had caused the rending of the massive curtain which divided the Holy Place from the Holy of Holies at the time of the crucifixion. That the geological structure is conducive to violent shocks at this point has been brought home vividly to the many visitors who have seen the Church of the Holy Sepulchre shored up because of seismic damage." Wenham exhibits here the standard practices of historical study--he has integrating narrative, yielding a plausible reconstruction of sequence, argued from (1) grammatical usage; (2) background geological data; and (3) related biblical data (e.g. he used the apostolic statement that "He is risen" was FIRST announced to believers, as evidence that the guards were NOT there at the time the angels announced it to the women--p. 77). His exegesis does not support a position of "most embarrassing divergence." [C]: Dr. Price here makes a strange assertion--failure to include all the known facts about an event under narrative implies memory loss (or perhaps negligence)! This position is surely not one Dr. Price would wish to hold authors to everywhere! The very nature of the literary enterprise--even "pure" history writing--involves selection from a large body of data, a subset to be set before the reader, with explanation and connections therein made explicit by the author. Failure to mention details--even ones held dearly by an author--is IRRELEVANT to the issue of credibility. There was not the slightest obligation on the gospel writers to write down EVERYTHING THEY KNEW about the first Easter! This is sheer assumption and arbitrary constraint upon the authorial process, and as a criterion is without support in the larger body of literary theory and historical writing. His statement that "no gospel writer could have failed to use them" is an unsupported assertion and one that is strangely in contradiction with other positions that Dr. Price would undoubtedly hold as entirely legitimate (e.g. redaction criticism--it SPECIFICALLY uses such omissions as clues to authorial literary intent. It builds the entire redactional-critical method on the assumption that the author KNEW the other details, but OMMITTED them for a different literary purpose.) [D]: Furthermore, notice that Dr. Price has backed himself into this corner with this exegesis of the passage. By treating the passage as a flat sequence , and thereby creating the embarrassment , he is forced to accept the position that the women saw all of these things. This creates an urgency level in their reports (according to Dr. Price) that (again) requires them to report every single detail--assuming they had the presence of mind to do this! But once again, Dr. Price has made an exegetical decision for us--ALL the women saw ALL these events. Most harmonistic explanations have different groups of

women, at different stages of travel and tasks, at different times. To treat them monolithically as a SINGLE GROUP is reading INTO the text assumptions that are simply not exegetically defensible (or at least not demonstrated by Dr. Price as being plausible understandings of the narrative elements). He has made an exegetical decision that creates the problem. Of course, even if ALL the women saw ALL the events and reported them to ALL the writers authors purpose [E]: To at ALL the times, there is NO requirement (as per above) for ANY of the to record ANY of the details--if it was not germane to their literary to do so. digress and take up this rather amazing assessment of probability by Dr.

Price would take us very, very far afield (e.g. into his characterization of Matthew as being "known for midrashic expansion"). But notice that somehow Dr. Price has made a determination of probability here--along the lines in the definition of "plausibility". Let s briefly note the structure of this simple argument. It runs basically like this: Matthew is "known for" midrashic expansion. (Being "known for" midrashic expansion MEANS that it is found often in a document.) (Midrashic expansion generally involves miraculous/spectacular elements added to simpler events or stories.) Some of these spectacular elements do NOT occur in other gospel accounts. (They WOULD occur in other accounts if they were true--authors were required to list ALL important details, about important events--regardless of their literary purpose in writing.) Therefore, these spectacular elements did NOT occur. Therefore, the account that CONTAINS those "non-occurring" elements MUST HAVE added them . Since they look like OTHER identified midrashic expansions , and hence are predicted by a pattern of Matthew s authorial behavior, they make MORE sense as a "midrashic expansion" than as anything else (including real events). The reader will obviously be able to spot a few faulty and/or questionable assumptions in this list, and just for the record let me add that we do not have A SINGLE occurrence of "creative midrash" (along the lines suggested by Dr. Price) before the 4th century A.D. So, it is rather anachronistic to see this process being applied by a tax-collector in the first century. [For a good introduction and overview of the complexities involved in identifying historiographical genres in first century Palestine, as well as the difficulties of using the term midrash as a descriptive term, see R.T. France, "Jewish Historiography, Midrash, and the Gospels" in GP3.] But my main question here is how Dr. Price assigns probability. Do all miraculous elements AUTOMATICALLY have to be "midrashic expansions" (a philosophical issue)? If not, how do we discern between true miraculous elements and midrashic expansions (a theological and/or historical issue)? And what patterns can be advanced and defended as being paradigmatic or indigenous in a writer, with which to compare the pattern in Matthew 28 to estimate "probability" (a literary-critical issue)? For me, I would be much more cautious about generalizing to this degree in Matthew. [F]: I am not sure what harmonizations Dr. Price has carefully considered, so I might have to agree with him about selected ones. Others, with which I am familiar, do not manifest the precarious character of which we speaks. Be that

as it may, I find it interesting that he has assessed the "plausibility" of some harmonizations based on his assessment of their contrived nature. At first blush, this smacks of convenience to me, but under what circumstances would I have to agree with him? What looks like being contrived to me? To me contrived might apply to wooden, agglutinative approaches--for example, that the rooster crowed six times! To me contrived might apply to suggestions that the text is faulty and needs "correction"--when there are no textual variants in the manuscript data--which occurs very often in OT exegesis. To me contrived would apply to conspiracy theories, in which the plain meaning of the historical motives, dialogue, and events are displaced wholesale with novel ones. To me contrived would apply to theories that place unwarranted and a-historical constraints on how authors build texts--for example, where Dr. Price requires all the gospel authors to mention all details. To me contrived would apply to historical reconstruction that have little or no control data or illustrative cases--for example, if we could not give a single example of where the aorist was used as a pluperfect. To me contrived would apply to systematically-complete theories of textual growth, but where there is literally not a single piece of mss. Data to support it--for example, the speculative Q document. The point is that contrived needs to be more than just an offhand remark. There needs to be some interaction with the position--to test the genesis of it, to question the linkages between premises and conclusions, to ask about illustrative data. [G]: Here I simply want to note that Dr. Price is woefully out of synch with those most qualified to assess the value of different accounts of the resurrection--the legal trade. We saw above--to which entire legal textbooks of evidence could be added--writings by legal professionals, documenting the EXTRA VALUE, to the credibility of a story, of accounts that "need harmonization". Differences INCREASE the credibility of the story as a true event--as long as "plausible" reconstructions can be advanced and defended. Let me give an example of this. Casteel, a trial judge in the U.S.A. for 26 years and attorney/solicitor for 15, includes this little passage in his book Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, p. 213.: "Another sure mark of the truth, which we find in the Gospel accounts of the resurrection, are the numerous details of the very type that false accounts would be careful to avoid. For example, it is related of the Lord s appearances to His followers, that at first they did not recognize Him. A false story would never have been made up this way, because it is obvious that this would support an argument that the disciples were mistaken and didn t see Jesus at all. Why did the Gospel writers tell it this way? Because their purpose was simply to tell what happened, and that is the way it happened." Now to me, this was an amazing insight. I have not found this in commentaries or any apologetics works--it is not something I am trained to see. But those who are constantly checking out the witnesses, notice these details. I would have to side with pragmatic judges--generally less influenced by presuppositions and less committed to more restrictive (but often useful) academic or paradigmatic schools of thought (e.g. Jesus Seminar, Form Criticism, Socio-economic analysis) than biblical scholars, in many cases. For a second example, I would like to use an issue raised by Farrell Till. [Again, I will use [Letter] to act as markers for my comments below.] "If there were two, then there had to be one, inerrantists will say, but in a matter as vitally important as the testimony to a resurrection, inspired by an omniscient, omnipotent deity, this kind of "explanation" has dubious merit at best. However, it is the stock explanation of inerrancy defenders in matters like these, so I will simply mention it, leave it to the readers to judge its merit, and go on to other discrepancies that no stretch of imagination can

satisfactorily resolve."[A] "After the women arrived at the tomb, Matthew said that a "great earthquake" occurred and "an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it" (28:2). Mark, Luke, and John, however, disagreed. Mark said that the women found the stone already rolled away when they arrived at the tomb (16:2). Luke agreed with Mark and said that the stone was "rolled away from the tomb" when the women arrived (24:2), and John said that the stone had been "taken away from the tomb" when Mary Magdalene arrived (20:1). So who was right? Matthew or the other three? It simply could not have been that the stone was both in place and rolled away too when the women came to the tomb? Our rule of evidence demands one of two conclusions: Matthew was right and the other three were wrong, or the other three were right and Matthew was wrong. Both versions of the story cannot be right."[B]. "Gleason Archer, in his typically far-fetched style, has offered this answer to the question (Why did Mary think the body had been stolen when the angels had already told her "He is risen""): She apparently had not yet taken in the full import of what the angel meant when he told her that the Lord had risen again and that He was alive. In her confusion and amazement, all she could think of was that the body was not there; and she did not know what had become of it. Where could that body now be? It was for this reason that she wanted Peter and John to go back there and see what they could find out (Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties, pp. 348-349). That sounds pretty thin to me, but inerrantists are famous for this kind of circumlocution when they are confronted with obvious discrepancies in the Bible text. Luke flatly stated that the women at the tomb, who would have included Mary Magdalene, remembered his (Jesus ) words when the angels reminded them that Jesus had predicted his resurrection while they were yet in Galilee (24:7-8). Despite the clarity of this statement, Archer wants us to believe that the obvious discrepancy between it and John s depiction of Mary in his resurrection story was only apparent, because she had not yet taken in the full import of what the angel meant when he told her the Lord had risen again. As an explanation of the problem, it is too transparent to deserve serious comment. What full import was there to take in? The angels said, "He is risen," as he had promised while he was yet in Galilee, and the women remembered his words;! "[C] "So it is with the resurrection accounts in the four gospels. If Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John--all four of them--had really been guided and directed by an omniscient, omnipotent deity while they were writing their gospels (as the inerrancy doctrine claims), there would be no maze of inconsistencies in the juxtaposition of their stories. There would be that perfect unity and harmony that fundamentalist preachers talk about so much--but which doesn t really exist." [D] Mr. Till s arguments deserve more attention that I can give them tonight, but I want to make a few observations about the above assessment of plausibility of harmonistic efforts by evangelicals. [A]: Here Mr. Till refers to some "stock answer" by inerrantists concerning how many angels there were at the tomb. The "if there were two, then there was one" argument is sometimes used, but generally more thoughtful evangelicals point out that a refined version of this fits general usage even today. Consider the following event. A crowd of people has congregated in the street below a would-be jumper. They are a crowd of around 10 people, who are looking up the side of a tall building at a would-be jumper on the 6th floor. I walk up to the crowd and look up and one of the people says to me "You should have seen

him an hour ago--he was jumping up and down on the ledge." Whereupon, we all begin talking about the event. In such a historical event, it would be perfectly accurate for me to say "I was watching a jumper the other day from the street, and there was a man there who said to me xxxxx " AND it would ALSO be perfectly accurate to say "I was watching a jumper the other day from the street, and there were 10 people there talking with me about the situation." This is simple and standard description--there is no contradiction, no contrivance, and nothing particularly "thin" about that. To argue that this situation would be inaccurate is merely CREATING difficulties where none actually exist. To label a position "dubious" without explaining WHY it is dubious, doesn t lend much credibility to the position as an argument. As a position, of course, it is quite clear. One should normally give SOME argument as to why it would be unlikely, perhaps from other illustrations of usage. [I will reserve my comments about Mr. Till s apparently superior understanding of how an omniscient and omnipotent deity would inspire human authors to letter D...;>)] [B]: I just want to notice here that Mr. Till makes the same exegetical decision that Dr. Price made, and hence, has to pit "Matthew vs. the Rest." Attention to the other options afforded by the grammar and culture of the day (demonstrated above) would have allowed him to skip this created-issue and focus on more difficult issues, perhaps...;>) [C]: This is the more substantive issue I want to briefly look at, for illustrative purposes. First of all, let me point out that I am NOT in agreement with Archer s solution--I prefer Wenham s reconstruction. But I still intend to defend Archer s view--which is stated in much more detail below. [Wenham is convinced that MaryM was NOT in the group described in Luke--which Till decides "who would have included Mary Magdalene." I am convinced by Wenham that MaryM was in route back to the apostles when this occurred, and hence, had not heard the pronouncement. She had seen the open tomb, had assumed a theft, and ran away immediately to report this to the apostles--she would not have gone into the tomb with the other women at that time. Even her inclusion in the list of Luke 24.9-11 could be understood as a common telescoping narrative--summarizing two events in one. Murray Harris--cited below--is also in basic agreement with this absense of MaryM.] But let s assume for the moment that she HAD heard the He is risen --a la Archer. Is it "plausible" that she could have been so distraught and confused as to not register the words of the angels--while even being able to remember His

earlier predictions? Mr. Till obviously seems convinced that it was psychologically impossible for MaryM to have been this confused or unable to think through the implications and meaning of the angel s words. But let s think about this--historically. We know that often the disciples heard Jesus direct teaching, but did not understand His words due to emotional issues (cf. : Mark 9:30: They left that place and passed through Galilee. Jesus did not want anyone to know where they were, 31 because he was teaching his disciples. He said to them, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise." 32 But they did not understand what he meant and were afraid to ask him about it......cf. John 20.8: Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed. 9 (They still did not understand

from Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.)--notice that they had a mixture of belief and non-understanding.....Mark 6.51: Then he climbed into the boat with them, and the wind died down. They were completely amazed, 52 for they had not understood about the loaves; their hearts were hardened.; and especially Matt 28.16-17: Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshipped him; but some doubted.--they ALL worshipped but some mingled this worship of a Risen Christ with doubt?!!!, ) Remember also that we are not always given snapshots into the inner lives of all the characters. Sometimes the narrator tells us they responded in fear, sometimes in joy, sometimes with both, sometimes with a mixture of incongruent attitudes. I am NOT arguing that Mr. Till is wrong here (I believe he is, but that is a separate issue). Rather, I am arguing that his assumptions about psychological integration--that people under extreme stress cannot hold incongruous beliefs and act in inconsistent ways and doubt the very messages of God--are just too simplistic and lack adequate correspondence to the real world of human psychology. And correspondingly, that his assessment of Archer s position as being thin and too transparent and far-fetched and undeserving of serious comment , is correspondingly based on inadequate criteria. [D]: Finally, I have to take exception with Mr. Till s theology proper. For someone who does not claim to know "God", Mr. Till has some very precise ideas on what such a being WOULD and WOULD NOT do! For Mr. Till, such a God could NOT allow the full personalities of the writers to manifest themselves in truly human fashion--as impassioned witnesses to truth, with an urgency of their lives and a definite literary goal in mind as they strove to share with us the Good News that had changed their lives. I do not know much about Mr. Till s background experiences with inerrantists--although I know there are some aberrant views of inspiration worthy of censure and correction--but the inerrantists I associate with would PREDICT that we would have many literary differences and nuances--both to strengthen the credibility of testimony and to allow each messenger to pass on their experience of the Risen Lord. To illustrate this, consider the contrast between demon-possession and the "control" of the Holy Spirit in the life of the Christian. Inspiration, in the biblical authors cases, is not symmetrical with demon-possession at all. Demon-possession as recorded in the gospels suppressed the personality of the host ; the Christian experience of the Spirit of God liberates our person to manifest its true character. We are designed to produce "self-control" (Gal 5.23!). The true dance with God brings our inner robustness and personality out to joyous expression. We become more us than we could be otherwise. So, this final point is simply to encourage us to avoid setting arbitrary constraints on "plausibility". Mr. Till has a few such constraints (due to a restricted and specific presuppositon/belief about the nature of God and His interactions with humanity) that DEFINE for him some boundary items that restrict what can be called "plausible". Several specific reconstructions/sequencing of the post-resurrection events (or appearances of Christ) I have assembled here several harmonizations or sequences of appearances of Christ. Some are extended entries (e.g. Archer), some are short lists (e.g. Ryrie, Willingham), some are merely statements of how specific difficulties are to be resolved (e.g. Blom), and still others are detailed summaries (e.g. Harris). Most of these harmonizations will differ in some details, indicating the reality that there are MULTIPLE WAYS to harmonize the accounts! The Christian need not be concerned over whether or not THERE IS a defensible and

"plausible" answer; the tough question is "of the 10 plausible reconstructions, WHICH ONE is the best, in my opinion?"--a radically different situation. Casteel: Such is the case with these Gospel accounts. With further study, the apparent contradictions disappear. For example, all four accounts are in harmony with the following sequence of events: Very early a group of women, including Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, Salome, and Joanna set out for the tomb. Meanwhile two angels are sent; there is an earthquake and one angel rolls back the stone and sits upon it. The soldiers faint and then revive and flee into the city. The women arrive and find the tomb opened; without waiting, Mary Magdalene, assuming someone has taken the Lord s body, runs back to the city to tell Peter and John. The other women enter the tomb and see the body is gone. The two angels appear to them and tell them of the resurrection. The women then leave to take the news to the disciples. Peter and John run to the tomb with Mary Magdalene following. Peter and John enter the tomb, see the grave clothes, and then return to the city, but Mary Magdalene remains at the tomb weeping, and Jesus makes His first appearance to her. Jesus next appears to the other women who are on their way to find the disciples. Jesus appears to Peter; He appears to the two disciples on the road to Emmaus; and then appears to a group of disciples including all of the Eleven except Thomas. [Casteel, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, pp.212-213] Gleason Archer The Women s First Visit to the Tomb On Saturday evening three of the women decided to go back to the tomb belonging to Joseph of Arimathea, where they had seen Christ s body laid away on Friday at sundown. They wanted to rewrap His corpse with additional spices, beyond those which Nicodemus and Joseph had already used on Friday. There were three women involved (Mark 16:1): Mary Magdalene, Mary the wife (or mother) of James, and Salome (Luke does not give their names; Matthew refers only to the two Marys); and they had bought the additional spices with their own means (Mark 16:1). They apparently started their journey from the house in Jerusalem while it was still dark (skotias eti ouses), even though it was already early morning (proi) (John 20:1). But by the time they arrived, dawn was glimmering in the east (te epiphoskouse) that Sunday morning (eis mian sabbaton) (Matt. 28:1). (Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1 all use the dative: te mia ton sabbaton.) Mark 16:2 addst hat the tip of the sun had actually appeared above the horizon (anateilantos tou heliou--aorist participle; the Beza codex uses the present participle, anatellontos, implying "while the sun was rising"). It may have been while they were on their way to the tomb outside the city wall that the earthquake took place, by means of which the angel of the Lord rolled away the great circular stone that had sealed the entrance of the tomb. So blinding was his glorious appearance that the guards specially assigned to the tomb were completely terrified and swooned away, losing all consciousness (Matt. 28:24). The earthquake could hardly have been very extensive; the women seemed to be unaware of its occurrence, whether it happened before they left Jerusalem or while they were walking toward their destination. There is no evidence that it damaged anything in the city itself. But it was sufficient to break the seal placed over the circular stone at the time of interment and roll the stone itself away from its settled position in the downward slanting groove along which it rolled. The three women were delightfully surprised to find their problem of access to the tomb solved; the stone had already been rolled away (Mark 16:34)! They then entered the tomb, sidestepping the unconscious soldiers. In the tomb they made

out the form of the leading angel, appearing as a young man with blazing white garments (Mark 16:5), who, however, may not have shown himself to them until they first discovered that the corpse was gone (Luke 24:2-3). But then it became apparent that this angel had a companion, for there were two of them in the tomb. The leading angel spoke to them with words of encouragement, "Don t be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified" (Matt. 28:5). Nevertheless they were quite terrified at the splendor of these heavenly visitors and by the amazing disappearance of the body they had expected to find in the tomb. The angel went on: "Why do you seek the living among [lit., with --meta with the genitive] those who are dead? He is not here, but He has risen [Luke 24:5-6], just as He said [Matt. 28:6]. Look at the place where they laid Him [Mark 16:6], the place where He was lying [Matt. 28:6]. Remember how He told you when He was still in Galilee, saying that the Son of Man had to be betrayed into the hands of sinful men, crucified, and rise again on the third day" (Luke 24:6-7). After the angel had said this, the women in fact did remember Christ s prediction (especially at Caesarea Philippi); and they were greatly encouraged. Then the angel concluded with this command: "Go quickly and tell His disciples that He has risen from the dead!" Then he added: "Behold, He goes before you into Galilee; there you will see Him. Lo, I have told you" (Matt. 28:7). Upon receiving these wonderful tidings, the three delighted messengers set out in haste to rejoin the group of sorrowing believers back in the city (possibly in the home of John Mark) and pass on to them the electrifying news. They did not pause to inform anyone else as they hurried back (Mark 16:8), partly because they were fearful and shaken by their encounter at the empty tomb. But in their eagerness to deliver their tidings, they actually ran back to the house (Matt. 28:8) and made their happy announcement to the disciples who were gathered there Mary Magdalene took pains to seek out Peter and John first of all; and she breathlessly blurted out to them, "They have taken the Lord away from the tomb, and we don t know where they have laid Him!" (John 20:2). She apparently had not yet taken in the full import of what the angel meant when he told her that the Lord had risen again and that He was alive. In her confusion and amazement, all she could think of was that the body was not there, and she did not know what had become of it. Where could that body now be? It was for this reason that she wanted Peter and John to go back there and see what they could find out. Peter and John at the Tomb The synoptic Gospels do not mention this episode, but it was extremely important to John, who therefore took pains to record it in detail. As the two men got closer to Joseph s tomb, they began to run in their eagerness to get there and see what had happened (John 20:34). John arrived there first, being no doubt younger and faster than Peter. Yet it turned out that he was not as perceptive as Peter, for all John did when he got to the entrance was stoop down and look into the tomb, where he saw the shroud, or winding sheet, of Jesus lying on the floor (v.5). But Peter was a bit bolder and more curious; he went inside the chamber and found it indeed empty. Then he looked intently at the winding sheet, because it was lying in a very unusual position. Instead of being spread out in a long, jumbled strip, it was still all wrapped together in one spot (entetyligmenon eis hena topon). Moreover, the soudarion ("long kerchief") that had been wound around the head of Jesus was not unwound and tossed on the shroud but was still wrapped together and lying right above it (vv.6-7).

In other words, no one had removed the grave-clothes from the corpse in the usual way; it was as if the body had simply passed right out of the headcloth and shroud and left them empty! This was such a remarkable feature that Peter called John back and pointed it out to him. All of a sudden it dawned on the younger man that no one had removed the body from that tomb. The body had simply left the tomb and left the grave-clothes on its own power, passing through all those layers of cloth without unwrapping them at all! Then John was utterly convinced: Jesus had not been removed by other hands; He had raised Himself from the dead. That could only mean He was alive again. John and Peter decided to hurry back and report to the others this astounding evidence that Jesus had indeed conquered death and was alive once more. The Private Interviews With the Women and With Peter For some reason, Peter and John did not tell Mary Magdalene about what they had deduced before they left. Perhaps they did not even realize that she had followed along behind them at her slower pace. In fact, she may not have gotten back to the tomb until they had already left. She arrived all alone, but she did not immediately reenter until she had paused to weep for a little while. Then she stooped down once more to look through her tear-stained eyes into the tomb (John 20:11). To her astonishment it was ablaze with light; and there she beheld two angels in splendid white robes, sitting at each end of the place where Jesus had lain (v. 12). Immediately they--the very same pair that had spoken to the three women at their earlier visit--asked her wonderingly, "Why are you crying?" Had she not understood the glorious news they had told her the first time? But all Mary could think about was the disappearance of Christ s body. "They have taken my Lord away, and I don t know where they have laid Him," she lamented. To this the angels did not need to give any answer, for they could see the figure of Jesus standing behind her; and they knew His response would be better than anything they could say. Mary could sense that someone else had joined her, and so she quickly turned around and tried to make out through her tear-blurred eyes who this stranger might be. It wasn t one of her own group, she decided; so it had to be the gardener who cared for this burial ground of Joseph of Arimathea. Even when He spoke to her, Mary did not at first recognize Jesus voice, as He kindly asked her, "Woman, why are you crying? Whom are you looking for?" (v.15). All she could do was wail at Him accusingly, "Sir, if it is you who have taken Him away, tell me where you have laid Him; and I will carry Him off"--as if somehow her womanly strength would be equal to such a task. It was at this point that the kindly stranger revealed Himself to Mary by reverting to His familiar voice as He addressed her by name, "Mariam!" Immediately she realized that the body she was looking for stood right before her, no longer a corpse but now a living, breathing human being--and yet more than that, the incarnate God. "Rabbouni!" she exclaimed (that is to say, "Master!") and cast herself at His feet. It was only for a brief moment that she touched Him; for He gently withdrew Himself from her, saying, "Don t keep touching Me [the negative imperative me mou haptou implies discontinuance of an action already begun], for I have not yet ascended to My Father." Whether He did so later that afternoon and then returned afterward to speak to the two disciples on the road to Emmaus and the rest of the group back in Jerusalem that evening is not altogether clear. But if Mary was asked not to touch Him at this

point in the day and the disciples were freely permitted to touch Him that evening, it must be inferred that He did report briefly back to God the Father in heaven before returning to earth once more for His post-resurrection forty day ministry. This private interview with the risen Lord did not continue much longer, so far as Mary was concerned; for He commissioned her to hurry back to the group in the city and prepare them for His coming to join them in His resurrection body. "Go to My brethren," He said, "and tell them I am going up to My Father and your Father, My God and your God" (John 20:17). This definitely confirms the deduction that Christ did in fact make a brief visit to heaven during the middle of Easter Sunday before reappearing to Cleopas and his companion on the Emmaus road. Nevertheless Jesus did not make ]His ascent to heaven at this precise moment, for He waited around long enough to meet with the other two women who had earlier accompanied Magdalene to the tomb at daybreak. Apparently Mary the mother (or wife of James, and Salome with her, had decided to go back once more to visit the empty tomb. Presumably they noticed that Mary Magdalene had slipped away again after conferring with Peter and John, and they must have guessed where she had gone. Very soon after Magdalene had left Jesus and headed back toward the city (but not so soon that they actually met one another on the way), the two women drew near to the same spot where they had encountered the two angels on their first visit (Luke 24:4). We are not told whether the women actually entered the tomb once again, or whether they met Jesus just outside; but at any rate He apparently accosted them after they had arrived, and He greeted them (Matt. 28:9). (The Greek chairete here probably represents either the Hebrew shalom or the Aramaic Se lama . Literally the Greek means "Rejoice!" whereas the Hebrew means "Peace!") Their reaction at seeing their risen Lord was similar to Magdalene s they cast themselves at His feet and kissed them as they clung to Him. Jesus reassured them as they were adjusting to the shock of seeing Him alive again, "Don t be afraid." Then He continued with a mandate similar to the one He had given to Magdalene: "Go and pass on the word [apangeilate] to My brethren that they are to depart for Galilee, and there they will see Me." It is highly significant that our Lord first revealed Himself in His resurrection body, not to the men, the eleven disciples themselves, but rather to three of the women among the group of believers. Apparently He found that they were even readier in their spiritual perception than the eleven men of His inner circle, on whom He had spent so much of His time during the three years of His teaching ministry. Be that as it may, it seems quite clear that Jesus chose to honor the women with His very first post-resurrection appearances before He revealed Himself to any of the men-- even to Peter himself. Yet we must gather that Peter was the first of the male disciples to see his Lord alive after the Resurrection; for at some time after Mary Magdalene came back from her second visit to the tomb and her confrontation with Jesus there, Simon Peter must have had a personal reunion with Jesus. This we learn from Luke 24:34, where we are told that the disciples in the house of John Mark in Jerusalem had learned from Peter that he had already seen Jesus and had talked with Him, even before the two travelers returned from their journey toward Emmaus and reported back that they had broken bread with Jesus at the inn. They found as they came back with their exciting news and expected everyone there to be surprised at their account of talking with the risen Lord that the rest of the group were already aware of the stupendous event. The two travelers were delighted to meet with ready acceptance by all who heard them, for they were assured by all their friends, "Yes, yes, we know that Jesus is alive and has

returned to us; for He has appeared to Simon Peter as well" (Luke 24:34). Presumably they were already aware (cf. v.22) of the earlier interviews reported to them by Mary Magdalene (who told them, "I have seen the Lord," and then relayed His announcement about ascending to the Father in heaven; cf. John 20:18) and by the other Mary and her companion, Salome, who had passed on His instructions about the important rendezvous to be held up in Galilee. As for this personal interview between Christ and Peter, we have no further information; so we cannot be certain as to whether it was before or after His ascension to the Father and His subsequent return in the afternoon of Easter Sunday. All we can be sure of (and even this is perhaps arguable) is that He talked with Peter before He met with Cleopas and the other disciple on the road to Emmaus. It is interesting to note that Paul confirms that Christ did in fact appear to Peter before He revealed Himself to the rest of the Eleven (1 Cor. 15:5). The Interview With the Disciples on the Way to Emmaus The next major development on that first Easter Sunday involved two disciples who were not of the Eleven (the number to which they were reduced after the defection of Judas Iscariot). Cleopas was relatively undistinguished among the outer circle of Jesus following; at least he is hardly mentioned elsewhere in the New Testament record. As for his companion, we are never even told what his name was, even though he shared in the distinction of being the first to walk with Christ after His resurrection. Jesus apparently chose these two disciples outside the circle of the Eleven in order to make it clear to all of His church that He was equally available or accessible to all believers who would put their trust in Him as Lord and Savior, whether or not they belonged to any special circle or had come to know Him at an earlier or a later date. Perhaps He also felt that for their future testimony to the world--that they had become convinced of His bodily resurrection even in the face of their initial assumption that He was already dead and gone--such a manifestation would be of special helpfulness to future generations. One thing is certain: a true believer does not have to belong to the original band of chosen apostles in order to experience a complete transformation of life and the embracing of a new understanding that life with Jesus endures forever, in spite of all the adversities of this life and the malignity of Satan and the terrors of the grave. The Emmaus travelers replied, "Did not our hearts glow within us on the way and as He opened the Scriptures to us?" (Luke 24:32). They thus became the first example of what it means to walk with Jesus in living fellowship and hear Him speak from every part of the Hebrew Scriptures. This account is contained only in the Gospel of Luke, that Evangelist who took such special interest in the warm and tender personal relationships that Jesus cultivated with individual believers, both male and female. We may be very grateful to him (and the Holy Spirit who guided him) that this heart-stirring record was included in the testimonies of Jesus resurrection; for this encounter more fully than the others shows how life may be transformed from discouragement and disappointed hope into a richly satisfying and fruitful walk of faith with a wonderful Savior who has conquered sin and death for all who put their trust in Him. One interesting feature about this interview deserves comment. As in the case of Mary Magdalene, Jesus did not appear to the Emmaus travelers at the first with His customary form, features, or voice; and they failed to recognize His identity. They took Him for a stranger who was new to Jerusalem (Luke 24:18). It was not until after He had taught them how the Old Testament had clearly foretold how Messiah would first have to suffer before entering into His glory--and indeed not until after they had sat down for a bite to eat at some

roadside cafe and heard Him give thanks to God for the food--that they realized who He was. And then, at the moment of recognition, He suddenly left them, vanishing from their sight. This sudden disappearance showed them that this new friend of theirs, who had flesh and bones and could use His hands to break bread with them, was a supernatural Being. He was the God-man who had triumphed over death and had risen from the grave to resume His bodily form, a marvelous new body with power to appear and disappear according to His will and purpose, as He saw fit. As soon as Jesus had left them, the two wayfarers sped back to Jerusalem as fast as their legs could carry them. They lost no time in making their way to the assembled believers and sharing with them the electrifying news of their lengthy encounter with the risen Lord. "And they began to relate their experiences on the road, and how He was recognized by them in the breaking of the bread." The Interviews With the Assembled Disciples Luke tells us that while the Emmaus travelers were finishing their report to the assembled believers, the Lord Himself entered through the locked doors and appeared in their midst (Luke 24:36), much to the amazement of all those who had not previously seen Him risen from the dead. Graciously He greeted them with His customary "Peace be with you" (the Greek eirene hymin doubtless represents the Aramaic S e lama am e kon (John 20:19]). Then He hastened to allay their fears by showing them physical evidence of His bodily resurrection and restoration to life. "Why are you troubled and why do doubts arise in your heart?" He asked (Luke 24:38), as He held out His pierced hands for them to see and removed His sandals to show the nail holes through His feet (vv.3940). He even uncovered the scar of the gash that the Roman spear had made in His side as He hung lifeless on the cross (John 20:20). "Look at My hands and feet," He said to them, "for it is really I. Feel Me and see, for a mere spirit does not have flesh and bones such as you behold Me to have" (Luke 24:39). How many took advantage of Christ s offer to touch Him, we cannot be sure. But numbers of those in the room found even this evidence too amazing to be believed; so He offered a yet more dramatic proof. "Do you have anything to eat?" He asked them. They gave Him a piece of broiled fish, and He proceeded to eat it as they looked on with wonder and delight (Luke 24:4243). Having thus demonstrated that He was none other than their beloved Master risen from the dead, Jesus proceeded to explain to them, as He had explained to the two on the road to Emmaus, that all the amazing occurrences of Passion Week were fully predicted in the Hebrew Scriptures--all the way from Genesis to Malachi. The portions referred to were threefold: Moses (i.e., the Pentateuch), the Prophets, and the Psalms. (Notice that by this period all the Old Testament books other than the Pentateuch and the Psalms were included under the classification of "Prophets"--including all the books of history, Daniel, and probably the wisdom books of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes as well, unless "Psalms" is intended to represent all five books of poetry.) The entire Hebrew Bible is about the Son of God. But His particular focus was on those predictions of His ministry, sufferings, and death found in the Pentateuch (Gen.3: 15; 49:10; Deut.18: 15-18, and all the types of priesthood and sacrifice contained in the Torah), the Prophets (e.g., Isa. 7:14-9:6; 52:13-53:12), and the Psalms (esp. Ps. 16:10 and Ps. 22), which foretold all the events that found their culmination on this Easter Day (Luke 24:44-46). Thus He assured them that all

the apparently tragic events of the last few days were in exact fulfillment of the great plan of human redemption that God had decreed from before the beginning of all time. Instead of feeling intimidated and disappointed by the shame of the Cross, they were to see in it the greatest victory of all time; and they were to trumpet abroad the good news of salvation, which by His atonement He had purchased for repentant sinners everywhere. This led Jesus quite naturally to the earliest pronouncement of the Great Commission. He told the disciples that repentance was to be preached in His name to all nations for the forgiveness of sins, beginning from Jerusalem, and that they as eyewitnesses were under special obligation to carry out the proclamation of this message. (Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties, Zondervan: 1982, pp. 347-352) Wenham (EE:139) IN OR NEAR JERUSALEM Easter Sunday morning --to Mary Magdalene. Easter Sunday morning --to other women. Easter Sunday midday --to Cleopas and companion. Easter Sunday afternoon --to Peter. Easter Sunday evening --to ten apostles and others. Following Sunday--to the eleven, including Thomas. IN GALILEE, LATER To the seven by the lake of Tiberias. To more than five hundred brothers in the hills. To James, the Lord s brother. BACK IN JERUSALEM To the eleven, followed by the Ascension from the Mount of Olives. Geisler and Howe: Mary (John 20:10-18) Mary & Women (Matt. 28:1-10) Peter (1 Cor. 15:5) Two Disciples (Luke 24:13-35) Ten Apostles (Luke 24:36-49; John 20:19-23) Eleven Apostles (John 20:21 31) Seven Apostles (John 21) All Apostles (Matt. 28:16-20; Mark 16:14-18) 500 Brethren (1 Cor. 15:6) James (1 Cor. 15:7) All Apostles (Acts 1:4-8) Paul (Acts 9:1-9;1 Cor. 15:8) [Geisler, WCA: p366] Ryrie Study Bible Resurrection at first dawn The women, coming with spices, find the sepulcher open and empty. Mary Magdalene returns to tell Peter and John The other women, remaining, see two angels, who declare the Lord s resurrection. Mary Magdalene returns to the sepulcher. Jesus reveals Himself to her. She reports to the disciples--First appearance Jesus meets the women (Mary mother of James, Salome, and Joanna) on their return to the city--Second appearance Peter and John find the sepulcher empty Report of the guards to the chief priests, who bribe them Jesus seen by Peter (Cephas, 1 Cor. 15: 5)--Third appearance Seen by the two disciples on way to Emmaus--fourth appearance Jesus appears to the ten, Thomas being absent--Fifth appearance Evening of Sunday after Easter day. Jesus appears to them again, Thomas being

present--Sixth appearance The eleven go into Galilee, to a mountain appointed. Jesus appears, and commands them to teach all nations--Seventh appearance Jesus shows Himself at the Sea of Tiberias--Eighth appearance. Charges Simon to feed His lambs, sheep, and young sheep Seen of above five hundred brethren at once (1 Cor. 15:6), probably along with the eleven-- Ninth appearance He is seen by James, then by all the apostles (Acts 1: 3-8; 1 Cor. 15:7)--Tenth appearance. (Ryrie Study Bible, ppp.1931-2) Willingham First: Mary Magdalene as she remained at the site of the tomb (John 20.11-17) Second: to the other women who were also returning to the tomb (Matt 28.9-10) Third: to Peter (Luke 24.34; I Cor 15.5) Fourth: to the disciples as they walked on the road to Emmaus (Luke 24.13-31) Fifth: to the ten disciples (Luk 24.36-51; John 20.19-23) Sixth: to the 11 disciples a week after the resurrection (John 20.26-29) Seventh: to the seven disciples by the Sea of Galilee (Jn 21.1-23) Eight: to 500 (I Cor 15.6) Ninth: to James, the Lord s brother (I Cor 15.7) Tenth: to the 11 disciples on the mountain in Galilee (Matt 28.16-20) Eleventh: at the time of the Ascension (Luke 24.44-53; Acts 1.3-9) Twelfth: to Stephen just prior to his martyrdom (Acts 7.55-56) Thirteenth: to Paul on the road to Damascus (Acts 9.3-6; 22.6-11; 26.13-18) Fourteenth: to Paul in Arabia (Gal 1.12-17) Fifteenth: to Paul in the temple (Acts 9.26-27; cf. 22.17-21) Sixteenth: to Paul while he was in prison in Caesarea (Acts 23.11) Seventeenth: to the apostle John (Rev 1.12-20) H.L. Willmington, The Complete Book of Bible Lists , Tyndale: 1987, p.168-169. Murray Harris After the actual resurrection had taken place, but before dawn, an earthquake occurred, an angel rolled away the stone from the entrance of the tomb, and the guards trembled and fled (Matt. 28:2-4). As Sunday morning was dawning, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and Salome approached the tomb, intending to anoint Jesus with the perfumed oil brought by other women who evidently set out later (see #7) . To their amazement they found the stone rolled away (Matt. 28:1; Mark 16:1-4; John 20:1). One or more of the women entered the tomb and announced that the body was not there (an inference from John 20:2, where Mary Magdalene does not simply say, "The stone has been taken away"). Mary Magdalene immediately returned to tell Peter and John that the body had been removed (John 20:2). Mary (the mother of James and Joses) and Salome saw an angel ( = "a young man" in Mark) inside the tomb who announced the resurrection and directed the women to tell the disciples that Jesus would meet them in Galilee (Matt. 28:5-7; Mark 16:5-7). These two women returned to the city without greeting anyone on the way, for their holy awe rendered them temporarily speechless (Matt.28:8; Mark 16:8). Certain women from Galilee, along with Joanna (cf. Luke 8: 3), arrived at the tomb, carrying perfumed oil to anoint the body of Jesus. They met two "men" (= "angels"; cf. Luke 24:4, 23) and then returned to report the angels message of the resurrection "to the Eleven and to all the rest" (Luke 24: 1-9,22-23) who had evidently now gathered together (c Matt.26: 56) . Meanwhile, informed by Mary Magdalene, Peter and John (and others?; Luke 24:24) ran to the tomb (without meeting Mary and Salome), observed the grave-clothes, and returned home (John 20:3-10; and Luke 24: 12, if this is the correct textual reading).

Mary Magdalene followed Peter and John to the tomb, saw two angels inside, and then met Jesus (John 20: 11-17; cf Mark 16:9). Mary Magdalene returned to inform the disciples that Jesus had risen (John 20:18; c Mark 16:10-11). Mary (the mother of James and Joses) and Salome met Jesus and were directed to tell his brethren to go to Galilee (Matt. 28:9-10). The disciples had now had reports concerning the empty tomb or the resurrection from three sources (viz., Mary Magdalene, Joanna and the women from Galilee, Mary [and Salome]), but they refused to believe these reports (Luke 24:10-11; cf. Mark 16:11). During the afternoon Jesus appeared to two disciples on the way to Emmaus. They then returned to Jerusalem to report the appearance to the Eleven and others (Luke 24:13-35; c Mark 16:12-13). Jesus appeared to Peter (Luke 24:34; 1 Cor. 15 :5). That evening Jesus appeared to the Eleven and others (Luke 24:33), Thomas being absent (Luke 24:36-43; John 20:19-23; 1 Cor. 15:5; cf Mark 16:14). One week later Jesus appeared to the Eleven, Thomas being present (John 20:26-29) . Seven disciples had an encounter with Jesus by the Sea of Tiberias in Galilee (John 21: 1-22). The Eleven met Jesus on a mountain in Galilee (Matt. 28:16-20; cf Mark 16:15-18). Jesus appeared to more than five hundred people (Luke 24:44-49; 1 Cor. 15:6). He appeared to James (1 Cor. 15 :7) . Immediately before his ascension, Jesus appeared to the Eleven near Bethany (Luke 24:50-52; Acts 1:6-11; 1 Cor. 15:7; cf Mark 16: 19-20). (Murray Harris, TCQ:107ff) Craig Blomberg: "Finally, it is remarkable to observe how often the alleged contradictions among the gospels are cited without a discussion of the many proposed solutions which can fit them together in a very plausible and natural manner. John Wenham has quite recently devoted an entire book to a harmonization of the accounts and few of his proposals are entirely new. There is scarcely room to summarize all his main points, but in the case of the sample contradictions mentioned above, one can offer the following brief replies: (a) angels generally appear in Scripture as men, and if one of the two were the primary spokesman, it would not be surprising if sometimes only he were mentioned; (b) it is likely that Jesus appeared to the eleven in Jerusalem, then later in Galilee when they had gone home after the Passover, and then once again in Jerusalem upon their return in preparation for the feast of Pentecost; (c) if Salome is both the mother of James and John and the sister of Mary, Jesus mother, there is no irreconcilable problem with the lists of women; and (d) it is not unfair to describe the world as still rather dark at the first glimpse of morning daylight. The apparent discord among the gospels can be alleviated, but it must be admitted that any reconstruction of the events is speculative. " (BLOM:102) ................................................................................ ................ Let me try to make a few summary points here at the end: I have obviously not resolved all the surface phenomena of the narratives, nor have I even attempted to do so. I have shown that the methods used by thinking and conscientious evangelicals--harmonization and integrative narrative reconstruction--are legitimate and important. I have argued that the Christian does not necessarily have to submit to external

and foreign criteria for plausibility, and that the historical student should be a critical thinker relative to those who would attempt to impose arbitrary criteria on the process. I have given examples of appropriate harmonization. I have argued that the apparent divergence at the surface level of the narrative accounts is actually something to appreciate! That these differences are important for both understanding and the extra weight of credibility of the gospel accounts. Glenn Miller, 3/4/97 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------The Christian ThinkTank...[http://www.Christian-thinktank.com] (Reference Abbreviations) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------reply Tue, 08/17/2010 - 13:50 Anonybous (not verified) Where Is The Trap? CHRIST TRIUMPHANT wrote: "I have argued that the apparent divergence at the surface level of the narrative accounts is actually something to appreciate! That these differences are important for both understanding and the extra weight of credibility of the gospel accounts." You would make a good politician, CHRIST TRIUMPHANT. What you wrote is a convoluted way of saying that the Bible is full of contradictions - and this makes you believe it even more! And you expect us to take you seriously, you lying piece of shite? Of course, if there are contradictions, they dont disprove that the resurrection did not happen - that is not what I am suggesting. But, there must be considerable doubt thrown on the reliability of the people claiming to be witnesses. Some will obviously be completely wrong maybe they are all wrong? And what about the veracity of the rest of what they wrote? If this is so, then the value of the Bible as a reliable historical document is negated. I am sure that you would have no trouble applying a dose of healthy skepticism to the miracles of Islam, or Buddhism. Why should anyone, least of all yourself, not apply the same to the outrageous claims of your own religion? Do you understand what a hypocrite is? What is the difference between these beliefs? ) Mohammed ascended to Heaven on a winged horse. 2) Alien souls, sent by the evil lord XENU, are trapped inside us and have to be removed using an e-metre. 3) During the crucifixion, when Jesus yielded up his last breath, the sky was rent in two, there was an earthquake that split the rock-masses and opened many graves. Out of these emerged many dead people, who then entered Jerusalem and they became visible to many people. See Matthew 27:51-53. Apparently, this didnt make enough of an impression on anybody - apart from Matthew - for them to be compelled to historically record it. Maybe it was a common occurrence in those times? To any reasonable human being they are all equally ridiculous as there is absolutely no supporting evidence for any of them, and they break all the known laws by which our universe operates. Where is the trap? It is simply sensible and rational. I didn t make the outrageous claim that the Bible was a reliable historical record - you did, you stupid demon worshipper.reply Tue, 08/17/2010 - 21:18 Christ our righteousness (not verified) Re: Set A Trap Where is the historical proof that Christ did not die (which you admit to the resurrection) and there was no earthquake and that the temple curtain was rent in two at the time that he did die? Where is the historical record that the earth was created by a transexual

goddess? Who is the liar, you or the authors of the bible, which was written over several thousand years and in harmony, describing the very person of Christ and his life and the manner of his death and the very words that he was going to say? What is so difficult to comprehend. The bible is a completed work yet the Koran was written at least 3-400 years after Mohammad died and constantly being modified by the Hadiths. Who saw Mohammad ascend to heaven since his religion was organised so long after his death and there were no records before this. Ron Hubbard admitted that his religion was science fiction and based on lies and mind control. what is you point? Are you embarrassed to admit that you are really have been fooled by freemasonry and that there is that possibility that you in fact do not know as much as you think you do about God? You are always in time to remedy your mistakes. God doesn t resort to physical violence and intimidation because He doesn t need to. He is omnipotent, THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS SPEAK FOR ITSELF. Would you ever have the courage to live as a Christian? Seek and ye shall find. Call on the Lord while He is near and He will show you who He is. He is not a respecter of persons but He will not answer if you deliberately destroy human life. Follow Christs lead.reply Wed, 08/18/2010 - 13:35 Anonybous (not verified) Reply to trapped Christ our righteousness wrote: "The bible is a completed work" Didn t you admit that there are contradictions in it? If there are not any, then you should have no difficulties telling me exactly what happened on "Resurrection Sunday". Actually, the word contradiction is a euphemism for "falsehood" or "lie". How do contradictions equate to it being written in harmony, you lying pustule? So, to prove that the Bible is a completed and harmonious work, you offer me lies - and then proceed to tell me that these lies make it all the more believable. Be off you filthy deceiving follower of Satan. The Bible was written hundreds of years after Je-Zeus was fabled to have walked on Earth, you despicable hypocrite. WHAT HAPPENED ON "RESURRECTION SUNDAY"?reply Sun, 08/22/2010 - 13:06 Christ our righteousness (not verified) Reply to Anonybous regarding challenge to Christianity They are not contradictions/lies they were records of an event that occurred written by four different perspectives. they are still valid accounts and have been proven valid because all the facts remain in harmony, as verified, none of the evidence is missing. Jesus was not in the tomb when visited by the women and two of his disciples then he appeared to all his disciples when they were gathered together for fear of the jews who had killed an innocent man, Thomas who doubted until Jesus told him to put his finger into where he had been pierced. His disciples did not steal his body as this was the contradiction lie falsehood propagated by Christs enemies, the Talmudic Pharisaical impostors who had infiltrated the Judaic peoples and opposed all those who succeeded in accepting the messiah when he arrived and completed his mission in victory.

These called themselves jews at the time however the Son of God who was able to read their hearts and motives denounced them. for further information read the account of the visions of eg white, in desire of ages. The evidence you requested has been presented, or do you like to argue for arguments sake without really learning anything from anyone else, you are not God you are just flesh and blood. Why cant you accept reality and really try and understand the sacrifice made for humanity. Sin is what is ugly in man, not their religion, however you have all religions through Illuminati inadvertently worshipping the all seeing eye of Lucifer or Satan as the bible calls him, that once beautiful and exalted angel of God that rebelled against the Father, Jehovah and His Son and their Holy spirit. Have you ever bothered to look into Bible prophecy and history, not all history is false, most of it is one sided, but accurate and see that 90 percent of Bible prophecy has been fulfilled. Shame that you spend so much time fighting against Christianity. You must know that the sda s have the true doctrine and are the remnant that is why you are against them. What is so wrong with Christianity, you are basically attacking the 10 commandments and the Torah which Christ fulfilled in his perfect life. Your ranting and raving wont change anything, but you are entitled to scrutinise and I pray that God continues to reveal the truth to you in a better capacity than this human vessel, your final account will be to God anyways. Ellen white is a true prophet because she was proven by the biblical standard of prophecy and also by the medical and scientific experts of her day to possess extraordinary ability that would render a normal person in similar physiological circumstances dead, she also had extraordinary literacy touches the heart and elevates the mind to think within than carnal nature. U need to get a copy of the book PROPHET OF THE END, it of what occurred when she went into vision. God gave the spirit of prophecy to humanity in the last ability and her work the spiritual rather gives eyewitness record days to prepare them for

the real second coming of Christ, the end of this world, age, eon. The false appearance of the Antichrist, or Satan impersonating Christ with much extraterrestrial (demonic) fanfare with the worldwide headquarters at Jerusalem will declare war on all Christians by the Islamic agenda and imposing the sabbath be abolished and "unify " and ensure they receive the mark of the beast in order to buy or sell (Sunday). Sunday is the day of the resurrection but Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, not Satan s day as the papacy of old declared it to be in order to force by pain of death, the day of Tammuz, or Zeus, Mithra the sun god, not Yeshua, the son of god. What you are in affect disclosing in all your posts is your hatred for the false impersonator that calls himself Christ but is not the Christ of the Bible or of the church of God, woman in the wilderness, the Remnant. The King James is a more reliable version and if you think that this is not good enough then get the Pershitta Bible translated from Aramaic. You really have to ask yourself whether you accept the murder, rape and torture of innocent victims in Satanic Ritual Abuse as a valid alternative to truly doing no harm to others, excepting in self defence of the truth and themselves and loving your neighbour as yourself. This post is about ritual Satanic abuse and whether these revelations are

accurate or are the result of someone s defunct imagination this is the issue at hand the real problem, pox, pustule of sin and its effects on those that have given themselves up (sold themselves cheap) to the wickedness of Satan. This is the real controversy between Christ and Satan, disagreeing with true Christianity is like shaking the hands of these monsters and cowards and saying well done, continue your evil ways, continue to hurt the innocent and steal, kill and destroy the body. you are in fact turning YOUR eyes away from evil and the only way that evil can triumph is for good people to do nothing. Well there s news for you there is billions of us good people out here and one day this world will be recreated new, free from sin in ourselves and in the universe, it will be the paradise for the innocent forever. Jesus did exist does exist and will return no matter how they try to deceive in all cunning. He said to His people, BE OF GOOD COURAGE I HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD, LO I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS EVEN UNTIL THE END OF THE AGE. Praise God, the Father and the Son.Praise the heavenly host, peace.reply Mon, 08/23/2010 - 14:07 Anonybous (not verified) Reply to Christ our righteousness Christ our righteousness wrote: "The evidence you requested has been presented..." You filthy lying piece of slime! I asked you to not leave out any details. One question was: Was the tomb open when the women arrived? Matthew 28:2 says NO, while Mark 16:4, Luke 24:2 and John 20:1 all say YES. WHICH ONE IS LYING? Another: After the women, to whom did Jesus first appear? Matthew 28:16 says eleven disciples. Mark 16:12-14 says two disciples in the country. Luke 24:13 says two disciples in Emmaus and in 24:36 says eleven disciples - apparantly he forgot while writing the narrative. John 20:19,24 says ten disciples (Judas and Tomas were said to be absent) and Paul 1 Corinthians 15:5 says first to Peter, then to twelve disciples (Twelve? Wasn t Judas dead by then?) WHICH ONE IS TELLING THE TRUTH? Another - and this should be a no-brainer: Where did the Ascension take place? Matthew says NO ASCENSION. Mark 16:19 says in or near Jerusalem, after supper. Luke 24:50-51 says in Bethany, after supper. John and Paul both say NO ASCENSION. Acts 1:9-12 says that Jesus Ascended from the Mount of Olives. YOU FRIGGING DIMWIT - THESE MORONS CAN T EVEN REMEBER IF AN ASCENSION TOOK PLACE!!!! How do you explain that? It s like saying that I witnessed a live concert on Saturday night in Sydney and someone else saying that they witnessed the same concert live in Melbourne at the same time. ONE OF US WILL BE ENTIRELY AND COMPLETELY WRONG!!!! SOME OF THESE BIBLE WRITERS ARE LYING. Nothing can be more obvious. And for you to claim that it is all "historically accurate" makes you an even greater liar. A quote from you : "They are not contradictions/lies they were records of an event that occurred written by four different perspectives." WELL, SOME OF THOSE PERSPECTIVES ARE TOTAL FABRICATIONS, YOU SCUM-BUCKET MORON!! Why cant you accept reality and really try and understand the damage that evil soulless droids like you are doing to humanity? Be off, you vile, dirty creature! The Great Mother will castrate your scrawny arse before too long. She knows the pox that is upon her surface.reply Mon, 08/23/2010 - 21:02 Christ our righteousness (not verified) Reply to Anonybous - What Did U Prove? What did u prove? They are all in harmony. They are recorded from different perspectives. The actual concert could have been in Sydney and before a live studio audience

in Sydney the other person could be watching the broadcast in Melbourne they both saw the same event with two different perspectives dependent upon time and place. You haven t proven anything except the fact that you are just a supporter of the evil that you encourage. You need to read the gospels in their entirety because you have picked out verses which you think in your head are contradictory when in fact read from the authors perspective are in harmony, were there two Judas one was Iscariot who was the betrayer of Jesus? There are many things that you have taken out of context honest it s as if you have taken these arguments out of atheist 101 bible contradictions textbook. Do you reject Christ? So be it , live with the consequences to come or else repent and be saved. Why do you feel the need to keep justifying and attacking Christianity, the devil doesn t need your help he has his demons for that. Is it because deep down you know that if there were just that slim possibility that you were wrong, then your in some serious "shite". What kind of goddess would allow for the suffering of innocent people in order to appease some psychiatric condition? Who would want to live in a world without laws and morality and without God anyway except evil sympathizers of pedophile creep cowards? Do you think that I am afraid of this supposed expose of the Bible and Christians. I know the answers, its up to you to ask God for forgiveness and you will see the truth and it will set you free. You should be afraid when you stand before God without a mediator. Why dont you truly awaken and see that if great evil exists then so does greater good. Jehovah help your soul.reply Tue, 08/24/2010 - 13:22 Anonybous (not verified) You belong to a Satanic cult... Jehovah is the stealer and destroyer of souls. Your SDA church is a Satanic cult. I don t want to live in a world without laws and morality and evil sympathizers of paedophile creep cowards, so your cult needs to be exposed for what it is. LIVE MEANS LIVE, YOU MORON! You cannot be watching something live unless you are there - watching something on TV is not watching something live. This proves what a stupid ignoramous you are. Enough said - it is impossible to talk with someone who has no concept of logic and reason. As they say: ignorance is the root of all evil.reply Tue, 08/24/2010 - 23:39 truth is clear (not verified) Reply to Anonybous Where is your proof that the sda church is worshipping satan, by their behaviour or acts against humanity as described in the above post about satanism where are the comparisons between adra and this so called group of elite criminal parasites? All christian churches must be worshipping satan then because they all believe in God and Jesus or is it the corrupt satanist infiltration with their Babylonian doctrines of peadophiles that have attempted to splinter Christianity that is now worshipped instead of the truth? A lawless person will shun God because all order and laws come from the great Lawmaker Jehovah. The goddess you worship is nothing compared to Him but a cheap fake that reveals

His secrets of creation and the universe to her demon worshipers, adding nothing original then takes credit for counterfeiting all things that God has made and forces by violence all to obey her. Just look at your attitude and language, you cannot even control your temper and your expression and you think that someone so lacking in self control and hatred is the highest form of evolved being God. Help us all if that be the case, you sad pathetic creature so full of your own wind. It is CHRIST who gave you the tongue to speak evil and body you sold cheap to Satan. This creatress that you think is going to solve all of mens problems in the satanic new age to come then when the plagues fall on mankind and they realise that the persecuted labelled satanic sabbath keepers who they derided because of people like you were right and they have lost eternal life because of you and your delusions. God help you that day. You have rejected him in the least of his brethren and in that day if you do not repent it will be too, late you will reap what you have sown. The Lord says do not fear them that kill the body but fear Him which is both able to kill the body and soul.reply Wed, 08/25/2010 - 14:10 Anonybous (not verified) So, where did the Ascension take place? You haven t answered my question. Where did the Ascension take place? That is, if it did at all.reply Fri, 08/27/2010 - 22:02 Bible is real (not verified) Reply to the ascension questions The ascension and resurrection are two different events. The resurrection occurred first, after Jesus was crucified on the Friday, when the great earthquake occurred and lay dead "asleep" on the Sabbath, then arose ( was resurrected from the dead ) the early hours of Sunday morning. Jesus ascended to his Father after this where he appeared to His disciples who were gathered together. He later appeared to Saul on the road to Damascus. Jesus body was a glorified spiritual and immortal body, hence the ability to able to walk through walls, however, Jesus was able to do these miracles before this through total reliance upon the Father, he said, My Father is greater than I. At no time did the Biblical Jesus ever assert His own will above that of the Father, in fact at all times Christ is in total submission to Him and works in harmony with Him, fulfilling His mission of saving mankind and reconciling the world to Himself, to the Father. Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear that has ever read the gospels would immediately realise that the " hey zeus " you talk of is not the same person as the Biblical Jesus. At no time does Christ ever " depose Cronus " and take for himself the world, however in the wilderness Jesus meets an angel of light that comes to console Him and offer Him all the kingdoms of the world if Jesus would do an act of worship and "bow down" to him, Jesus recognises the apostate fallen angel Lucifer " light bearer ", thrown out of heaven because he rebelled against the FATHER AND THE SON, THE GOVERNMENT OF HEAVEN, THE COUNSEL OF PEACE IS BETWEEN THEM BOTH, and proclaims " Get behind me Satan for it is written ( in the Bible and laws of the Universe ) that thou shall worship God( JEHOVAH ) and He alone thou shalt serve. If Jesus was self seeking and self serving and wanted the homage that you accuse

him of then He would have gladly accepted Satan s offer. Jesus knew that Jehovah the FATHER is the Only true God and because divinity cannot lie he told Satan the truth. You have been lied to by your gnostic mythology. These teachings of cushite Babylonian priests are distortions of the truth, counterfeits handed down by the arch deceiver, the mystery of iniquity, attempting to destroy the gospel and Christianity as they tried to do in Paul s day. The truth will never change, because God changes not. acts321.org.aureply Sat, 08/28/2010 - 11:27 Anonybous (not verified) Why won t you tell me where the Ascension took place? You haven t answered my question. Where did the Ascension take place? That is, if it did at all. That was my one and only question - you didn t answer it. Yet, being the lying son of Satan that you are, you claim to have answered me. Come on - have a go - grow some balls - be a man.reply Sun, 08/29/2010 - 20:28 Bible is real (not verified) Reply to the Ascension ? You really do not need to be so personally offensive in your request for information. The answer to your question is found in the New Testament. Luke 24:50-51 When he had led them out to the vicinity of Bethany, he lifted up his hands and blessed them. While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven. (With a little more detail of the same event.) Acts 1:9-12 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." Then they returned to Jerusalem from the hill called the Mount of Olives, a Sabbath day s walk from the city. Christian references The Mount of Olives is frequently mentioned in the New Testament (Matthew 21:1;26:30, etc.) as the route from Jerusalem to Bethany and the place where Jesus stood when he wept over Jerusalem. Jesus is said to have spent time on the mount, teaching and prophesying to his disciples (Matthew 24-25), including the Olivet discourse, returning after each day to rest (Luke 21:37), and also coming there on the night of his betrayal (Matthew 26:39). At the foot of the Mount of Olives lies the Garden of Gethsemane. The New Testament, tells how Jesus and his friends sang together - "When they had sung the hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives" Gospel of Matthew 26:30. Jesus ascended to heaven from the Mt of Olives as recorded in the book of Acts 1:9-12. Hope you got your answers now. God bless you.reply 123next last Comment viewing options Flat list - collapsedFlat list - expandedThreaded list - collapsedThreaded list - expanded Date - newest firstDate - oldest first 10 comments per page30 comments per page50 comments per page70 comments per page90 comments per page150 comments per page200 comments per page250 comments per page300 comments per page Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to

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Love For Life The body of the Love For Life work commenced in March 2005 and the Love For Life website started in December 2006 as a response to the effects of bank and tax fraud on our family between 2005 and 2006 and the condoning of that bank fraud by Supreme Court Judges, barristers, media, politicians, public servants, big business representatives, etc. For more details, see point 5 below "If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case". From owning two businesses and the family home, we were left with basically no means to support our four young daughters and with no "community immunity", i.e. no one standing alongside us to prevent the powers that be from stamping all over us. We have come across many, many similar cases to ours, with families being torn apart as everything they have worked hard for is stolen from them by men and women hiding behind costumes and titles and, when they look for help, there is no one around who can, or will, do anything. Most of them, like us, had unloseable court cases that they lost. Our choice to do something about this corruption led us to follow our intuition and go right outside the square, meeting many amazing men and women along the way, coming up against the heavies of "The System" a few times and documenting the harm doing, and uncovering information we never expected to find. Realising that commerce is one of the major evils of what we call "The System", we do not charge anything for the work we do, which means that we are still very poor! After writing many, many thousands of words and talking for many, many hours with many, many people, we have found that the truth is, of course, very simple while the lies we live under are very complicated and interwoven. This means that we need several paragraphs to explain "The system" and only one to explain the remedy. Below is an explanation of the main points: Note: This is a work in progress. We plan to complete all the points by late February 2011 (we are so very very busy on so many fronts). a). Every man, woman and child is equal and has a creator s standing (inherent right) to a roof over their head, a few acres of land to grow food, access to fresh water and clean air and the right to pass that land on to descendants. No one should ever have to worry about being displaced or having debt collectors or sheriffs knocking on the door or anything else to do with fear based enFORCEment. b). LIFE is a gift and we are supposed to be gifts for LIFE, serving the dream of LIFE by doing no harm to LIFE and co-creating the dream of LIFE with all other LIFE forms of LIFE. MAN is LIFE and LIFE is MAN; without MAN to think and feel LIFE here and now, there would be no one to think and feel LIFE and LIFE would not exist. MAN is the embodiment of the living Creator of the living dream of LIFE, gifted with the power of thought and the free will to co-create Paradise or a world of chaos and destruction. c). LIFE is information. When we distort the information of LIFE and then eat it, drink it, process it, manipulate it, work with it, worship it, think and feel it, etc, etc, not only does LIFE become distorted but, as we are part of LIFE, we become distorted too. We can choose to live our lives based on information that causes harm to LIFE or on information that nurtures and supports LIFE that is who we really are. d). We live under a system that allows men and women to harm each other and earth and think they have the right to do so, and that allows some men and women to be "more equal" than others - "All Men Are Equal But Some Are More Equal Than Others". e). None of the powers that be will ever admit to wanting to do harm, nor will

they publicly deny everyone s creator s standing as described in point a) above. f). "The System" is not real; it was dreamt up in the imagination of the Grand Architect of "The System". It has no LIFE, no substance, and can only appear to exist through the use of and destruction to LIFE and through the enslavement of men and women to maintain it. It is dead and cannot maintain or reproduce itself and has no gifts for LIFE. It needs some to have power over others, to be able to wield authority over those who reject "The System" and whose intention is to live outside "The System", because, if everyone decided to live outside "The System", there would be no system (no illusion). "The System" is an artificial world, a fairytale, superimposed over the real world of LIFE and is the cancer destroying LIFE at an ever increasing rate. Another name for "The System" is "HELL". See point 1 below, "The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian". All civilisations are of "The System", they are all apocalyptic by design and all collapse because they are not LIFE sustainable, making way for the latest model of civilisation to appear out of the wreckage of the last. Click here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7411 to continue reading or see below for a guide around the Love For Life website and to see some videos we created mid 2009 based on some of the insights. As we keep developing these ideas we plan to create animated stories, documentaries, and a story to be the basis of a film. The Main Insights Of The Love For Life Work Can Be Researched Amongst These Recent Posts 21st November 2010 We suggest reading & contemplating each post sequentially as listed here: a) We Are The Life Of The Dream Of Life 6th September 2010 b) The Manufactured World Of The Founding Father - The Grand Architect 23rd October 2010 c) The Song Of LIFE - "The Song Of LIFE" parts 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 are being made into an article that we will be posting shortly. The Song Of Life - Part Two 3rd November 2010 The Song Of Life - Part Three 10th November 2010 The Song Of LIFE - Part Four - How To Create A Slave 19th November 2010 The Song Of Life - Part Five: Returning Drones To LIFE 21st November 2010 The Song Of Life - Part One 31st October 2010 d) Children Have Their Community School Snatched By The Powers That Be 26th November 2010 e) When You Are In Commerce It Is Clear Whose World You Are In And Who You Are Serving 28th November 2010 f) Do You Really Support Slavery? Commerce = Slavery - Freedom Truth Websites Being Pulled 6th December 2010 g) Wikileaks - Another False Flag Spell In "The System" Of Spells 11th December 2010 h) Disclaimer - Regarding The "Ecclesiastical Deed Poll" 18th October 2010 i) The Chatter That Overflows The Cup 12th November 2010 Podcast j) Arthur Cristian Interview On American Freedom Radio - The Vinny Eastwood Show 6th October 2010 See Incontrovertible Evidence Of The Powers That Be Admitting To Involuntary Servitude (Slavery) More damming info to be updated very shortly k) Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part Ten From 13th October 2010 Videos

l) ONCE UPON A TIME - 8 Minutes 37 Seconds Created Mid 2009 m) THE HOUSE - 8 Minutes Created Mid 2009 n) THE ORIGINS OF THE HOUSE - 4 Minutes 57 Seconds Created Mid 2009 These posts will help you to comprehend where we are at and heading and why the REMEDY of KINDOM (Do No Harm Communities) is the ONLY remedy that frees MAN from the slavery to man-made HELL. Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life 21st November 2010 1. For The Body Of The Love For Life Work by Arthur and Fiona Cristian Which Unravels The Reasons For The Chaos, Mayhem and Confusion Being Experienced In The World Today, Explains The Need For "Community Immunity" and Responsibility, and Focuses On The Creation Of Kindoms - Do No Harm, Life-Sustainable Communities (As The Remedy That Heals All Mans Woes) - And How We Can Co-Create Them. For Comments, Articles And Discussions, Go Here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - Also Go Here To See Podcasts And Videos Posted by Arthur & Fiona Cristian: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7309 - The Information Shared Comes From Inspiration, Intuition, Heartfelt-Logic And Information Gathered From Nature And Many Amazing Men And Women Along The Way. It Is Not Found In Any Books Or Channellings, Or Talked About By "Experts". 2. For Information About The Ringing Cedars of Russia Series go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 and for more on Eco Homes, Villages, Organic and Permaculture Gardening and Life-Sustainability, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1985 and Mikhail Petrovich Shchetinin - Kin s School - Lycee School at Tekos: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5173 3. For How To Eat A Raw, Living Food Diet, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5068 - LIFE is information. When we distort LIFE and then eat, drink, absorb, think, feel, hear, see, touch, taste, smell and perform these distortions, the information of LIFE, your LIFE, our LIFE, our children s lives, everyone s LIFE, is distorted. 4. To Find A Menu For The Extensive Research Library (over 8,000 items posted) Which Covers Topics From Health to Chemtrails/Haarp to Brain Control to Archaeology to Astronomy Geocentricity Heliocentricity to Pandemics Bird Flu Swine Flu to Fluoride to Cancer to Free Energy to Global Warming, 9/11, Bali Bombings, Aspartame, MSG, Vaccinations, Aids/HIV, Mercury, New World Order, Satanism, Religions, Cults, Sects, Symbolism, etc, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/82 5. If You Would Like To Read About The Cristian Family NSW Supreme Court Case (Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited Bank Fraud Condoned By Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Big Business and Media Representatives - A Crime Syndicate/Terrorist Organisation) Which Prompted The Creation Of This Love For Life Website December 2006, And The Shooting And Torture Of Supporters Who Assisted Us In Reclaiming The Family Home, Joe Bryant And His Wife, Both In Their Late 70 s, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5 And Read Some Of Our Email Correspondence With Lawyer Paul Kean - Macedone Christie Willis Solari Partners - Miranda Sydney May 17th-June 27th 2006: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7300 6. For The Stories Of Other Victims Of The System, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/australian_stories (If you have a story you would like us to put up, we would love to here from you: action @ loveforlife.com.au) 7. For Documentation Of Harm Done By The Powers-That-Be And Their Representatives,

Evidence Revealing How Victims Did Not Break The Peace, Caused No Crime or Harm, There Were No Injured Parties. Documenting Incontrovertible Evidence Demonstrating How The Powers That Be (PTB) And Their Lackeys Will Break All The Laws They Are Supposed To Uphold. They Will Kidnap, Intimidate, Terrorise, Rape, Pillage, Plunder And Lie And Take Responsibility For None Of It. All Part Of Their Tactics Of Using Fear And Trauma To Keep Us In Our Place. Relatives Of Those Under Their Radar Are Also Not Safe From Attack And Intimidation. All Starting From A $25 Fine For Not Voting And A $65 Fine For Not Changing A Dog Registration. We Do Not Have Freedom And Can Only Appear To Have Freedom If We Comply. Regardless How Small The Matter The PTB Throw Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars Away To Enforce Their Will.... Go Here: Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office - Part One to Part Ten - From 17th October 2008 And Still Continuing: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6319 or Fiona Cristian Reply To State Debt Recovery Office Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/5742 - From 17th October 2008 Part Two: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6135 - From 18th December 2008 Part Three: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6295 - From 9th January 2009 Part Four: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6296 - From 14th January 2009 Part Five: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6375 - The Sick Puppy - From 20th February 2009 Part Six: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6390 - Police Officers, Sheriffs Officers, Tow Truck Driver and State Debt Recovery Office Blatantly Ignore the Law To Rape, Pillage and Plunder The Private Property Of Fiona Cristian - From 11th March 2009 Part Seven: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6445 - Affidavit Of Truth - Letter To The Queen + Australia: Fascism is Corporatism - From 30th March 2009 Part Eight: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6652 - The Pirates Auction And The Ghost Of VSL386 - From 4th April 2009 Part Nine: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7073 - Arthur Cristian s Letter To Pru Goward MP - From 15th December 2009 Part Ten: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/7500 - Should We Be In Fear Of Those Who Claim To Protect Us? "Roman Cult" Canon Law - Ecclesiastical Deed Poll - The Work Of Frank O Collins - From 13th October 2010 8. If You Are Interested In Information On Freedom From Statutes, Rule-Of-Law, Free Man/Free Woman, Strawman, "Person" and Admiralty Law (The Law Of Commerce), go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/895 - For Common Law, Democracy, Constitution, Trial By Jury, Fee Simple, etc, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/category/main/law-articles-documents 9. If You Are Interested In Banking and Money Created (Fiat/Credit/Debt/Mortgage/Loan/Overdraft etc) Out-Of-Thin-Air, How Banks Counterfeit Money, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/banks 10. For A List Of All The Latest Posts In The Love For Life Website, go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/tracker 11. For Links To Many Hundreds Of Videos, DVDs And Podcasts go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/video_dvd 12. To See The Cristian Family Pledge, Legal and other Disclaimers go here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/06/12/05/love-life-legal-disclaimer 13. To Read About How A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Had Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website go here: Part One: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: THE STEVE

JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 and Part Three: Latest Update On James Von Brunn: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673 Conscious Love Always Arthur & Fiona Cristian Love For Life action @ loveforlife.com.au www.loveforlife.com.au 0418 203204 (int: 0011 61 418 203204) PO Box 1320 Bowral 2576 NSW Australia Arthur Cristian Create Your Badge DISCLAIMER 17th June 2009 Note: Updated Thursday 29th July 2010 12.05pm Sydney Time. Love For Life does not support harm doing in any shape or form. However, we are supporters of free speech and post articles, documentaries, etc, that represent a wide cross section of ideas. See the Love For Life extensive research library where over 8000 documents, articles and videos are posted: http://loveforlife.com.au/issues. We clearly see the evidence of the destruction to MAN and the earth that has been caused by ALL religions over the centuries and are therefore not supporters of religions, cults, sects or any group that demands conformity of thought, speech or action, or has rules, regulations or rituals that must be followed. Religions, nationalities and cultural "identities" are formed as a result of the brainwashing we receive from childhood. They are part of the tactics the Establishment uses to keep us all divided from one another and fighting one another. All religions promote discrimination and division, leading to hatred and even violence and murder. None of them have yet to produce a remedy to all the suffering, poverty, unhappiness and discrimination in the world. If any religion truly had the remedy to all the suffering on earth, there would no longer be any suffering. What have Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, atheism and the New Age done to end the suffering in the world? The Love For Life website has information from all sides on many subjects, whether about Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Law, health, psychology, mind control, vaccination, aspartame, MSG, Chemtrails etc. There are over 6000 articles, documentaries etc on the website and they are so diverse that we are sure that everyone would be able to find something they loved and something they hated, if they took the time to search. If we removed all the articles hated by everyone, there would probably be nothing left! We are not anti anyone but freedom of speech is freedom of speech and no one should condemn the work of another without taking the time to research the subject themselves. Yes, there are articles by those who have a less-than-rosy-viewpoint of Judaism, but there are also articles on the dark side of Tibetan Buddhism (and it is very dark) for those who are interested in the truth: Tibet - Buddhism - Dalai Lama: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6271 Should the authors of these articles be abused and imprisoned for daring to challenge the widely conceived reputation of Buddhism as being the religion of peace and love and that of the Dalai Lama as a saint, or should those interested be allowed to study the work and come to their own conclusions? The same applies to all the articles, documentaries, etc, about Christianity, Islam, Freemasonry, New World Order, etc.

The Love for Life website also shows how the Rule of Law, the Bar, the Government, the Monarchy, the system of commerce, the local, national and multi/trans-national private corporations, all the courses and careers on offer from our universities, all the educators, scientists, academics and experts, the aristocrats and the Establishment bloodlines have also done NOTHING to end the suffering in the world. The website maps the insanity of a world where there is no help for those in need, just as there was no help available for us when we were victims of terrible bank fraud: http://loveforlife.com.au/court_case (orchestrated, condoned and protected by an international crime syndicate/terrorist organisation of judges, barristers, registrars, lawyers, politicians, banksters, big business representatives, media moguls and other lackeys who, all together, put up a wall of silence despite our trying many, many avenues. After the family home was stolen and business destroyed we were left close to poverty and destitution caring for 4 young daughters. Three years later not much has changed regardless of all our efforts. Where were all the followers of all the religions to help us? Or do we have to be members of those religions to receive help from others involved in them? We have been accused of being anti - Jewish because we had posted an excerpt from James von Brun s book: Kill the Best Gentiles! http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6054 in which he blames Jews for the problems of the world. Obviously this is not our view because of what we have stated above. We do not hate anyone, whatever religion they follow. We are always open to talk to any religious leader or politician and meet with any judge, member of the Bar, experts, academics, educators etc to share the remedy we offer that heals all the divisions between MAN and MAN, and MAN and the EARTH. Today, a representative of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies is threatening to close the website down, because they have decided it is anti Jewish and that we promote racism. What has the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies done to end the suffering in the world? Can they show that they are concerned with the suffering of ALL men, women and children AND ARE SEEN TO BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT or are they only concerned with Jewish affairs? If so, they, along with all the other religions that only care for their own, are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The man who rang Arthur today was only concerned with Jewish affairs; he was not interested in our intentions or in anybody else, just as most Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Catholics, etc, are only interested in their own. While we separate ourselves into groups, dividing ourselves from others with rules, regulations, rituals, procedures and conditions, we will never solve our problems. Part One: A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Has Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6616 Part Two: A Representative Of The NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Has Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website THE STEVE JOHNSON REPORT AND VIDEO http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6665 Part Three: NSW Jewish Board Of Deputies Has Threatened To Shut Down The Love For Life Website Latest Update On James Von Brunn http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6673 No matter what we in the Western World Civilisation of Commerce have been promised by our politicians, religious leaders, scientists, educators, philosophers, etc, for the past two hundred years, all we have seen is ever-increasing destruction of men, women and children and the earth. None of the so-called experts and leaders we have been taught to rely on are coming up with a solution and none of them are taking full-responsibility for the fact that they can t handle the problem. All religious books talk about end times full of destruction and suffering but why do we have to follow this program when

there is an alternative to hatred, mayhem and death? Why are our leaders following the program of destruction and death rather than exploring the alternatives? It seems that any mainstream politician, priest or academic are only interested in supporting the RULES OF THE DIVIDE, that maintain the haves and the have nots. For 200+ years, 99% of the world population have been so trained to pass on their responsibility for themselves, others and the earth, that the 1% of the population that make up the leaders of the rest of us are making all the decisions leading to the destruction of all of us and the earth. Let s not forget the education system that brainwashes the 99% of the population that we are free and have equal rights while, in fact, we are feathering the nests of those at the top. At the root of all our problems is self-centredness, an unwillingness nurtured by the Establishment that keeps us concerned only with our own needs rather than the needs of others around us and the Earth. Instead of creating and releasing acts of love for those around us as gifts to benefit them and the earth, we take, take and take, until there is nothing left. The whole point of the Love for Life website is to show people the root of all our problems and to share the remedy. The extensive research library is there to attract browsers and to provide access to information not available through mainstream channels. If the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies can, after careful examination of our work, prove that anything we are saying is wrong, we will be happy to accept their proof. If they cannot, and they are still insistent on closing the website down, they will be showing themselves to be traitors to MAN because they are not interested in pursuing any avenue that can end the suffering in the world. All religions, corporations and organisations that support and maintain the Western World Civilisation of Commerce are part of the problem because our civilisation is a world of haves and have nots, racism, violence, hatred, poverty, sickness, discrimination, abuse, starvation, homelessness, corruption, collusion, vindictiveness, social unrest, arrogance, ignorance, fear, war and chaos. While we support civilisation, we support death and destruction because ALL civilisations that have ever existed are apocalyptic by design. If we truly want peace on earth and freedom for all, we have to let go of all that which keeps us divided, and come together as MAN, conscious living co-creators of creation. The Love For Life website offers a remedy to the problems we all face in the form of DO NO HARM COMMUNITIES: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3641 For more details see here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/6511 and here: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/3385 - We also highly recommend that everyone read the brilliant Russian books called The Ringing Cedars: http://loveforlife.com.au/node/1125 - The Love For Life homepage/front-page also provides lots of inspiring remedy based information: http://loveforlife.com.au If you want to be kept up to date with our work please register to the Love For Life mailing list here: http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/05/14/campaign-mailing-list We usually send two postings per month. Presently there are over 5200 registrations reaching over 500,000 readers globally. The website now receives over 7 million strikes per month with January 2010 reaching almost 7.2 million strikes. Conscious Love Always Arthur and Fiona Cristian Love For Life 17th June 2009

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