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The Reason for Why Some of Those in Islam Apostate and the reality of their Condition before Apostasy

Courtesy of al-Mustaqeem Publications

Inal-Hamdullillahi Rabbil Alamaeen, wa salatu wa salamu ala anbiyaa e wal mursaleen wa salatu wa salamu ala nabiyeena Muhammadan wa ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajmaeen ama bad.

This Risalah (treatise) is more or less geared towards the foundational aspect or reason for such people who claimed being muslim at one time and then decided to leave it as opposed to listing their multifarious issues that averted them from Islam. As for many, they use the example of the actions of people to judge the religion itself. Usually when asked they cite practices like they beat women or they oppress women or they kill anyone who does not accept Islam or my personal favorite The prophet ordered a massacre on the Jewish Tribe and other fallacious notions not found in the quraan or sunnah upon the understanding of logic and reason which was usurped uppermost by the first three generations of muslim. Yet with the case of Ali Sina he claims it is not from the actions of the muslims but the quran itself.

Ali Sina
He is of Iranian descent. He was born in the family of Shia. So from the get go he was not really brought up upon the correct aqeedah (creed) and manhaj (methodology) established exclusively from the two sources of legislation (Quraan and Sunnah)

Here is a pivotal example of his early life that served as a stepping stone for his eventual apostation years later. He narrates I recall our teacher made a schedule to take the class for swimming. We were excited and looked forward to it. In our class there were a couple of kids who were Baha'is and Jews. The teacher did not let them accompany us. He said that they are not allowed to swim in the same pool that Muslims swim. I cannot forget the disappointment of these kids who left the school with tears in their eyes, subdued and heartbroken. At that age, may be nine or ten, I could not make sense of this injustice. I thought it was the kids fault for not being Muslims, but still I was sad.

The very narration of his incident being narrated in his testimony of leaving islam is proof in contrast with what he said My rejection of Islam is not based on the bad deeds of the Muslims but on the bad teachings of its holy book and on the bad deeds of its founder. Of course he nullifies this directly after this in order to undermine any constructive criticism that may be applied against him with Many cruelties and heinous acts of violence, perpetrated by Muslims throughout the centuries were inspired by the Quran and the Sunnah (the examples of the prophet). That is why I condemn ISLAM for the bad things that Muslims do.

Another part of Ali Sinas perpetual hatred for Islam and its eradication (despite his claimed humanistic values of love and peace) is deeply rooted in a sea of misconstruence of departing the reality of peace, human and civil rights, from the core of Islamic teaching using particular events and or narrations from the two sources meant for a particular incident and applying them on a general absolute value thus causing one of the greatest forms of taking matters out of its context ever in the history of Islam itself. So let us analyze a blatant discrepancy just within the quoted words of Sina alone. He first says Many cruelties and heinous acts of violence, perpetrated by Muslims throughout the centuries were inspired by the Quran and the Sunnah (the examples of the prophet). That is why I condemn ISLAM for the bad things that Muslims do. and he list one bad thing that muslims did like

I recall our teacher made a schedule to take the class for swimming. We were excited and looked forward to it. In our class there were a couple of kids who were Baha'is and Jews. The teacher did not let them accompany us. He said that they are not allowed to swim in the same pool that Muslims swim. I cannot forget the disappointment of these kids who left the school with tears in their eyes, subdued and heartbroken. At that age, may be nine or ten, I could not make sense of this injustice. I thought it was the kids fault for not being Muslims, but still I was sad.

So we ask Where is there any evidence of this action in the quraan and sunnah that this action links to. And then he speaks of Iran, and then his travel to Pakistan and its corruption and perverted minds. We ask again Where is it from the Quraan and Sunnah that the usurping of wealth for military versus the betterment of society is the established ruling of the two sources. Where is it from the manhaj of the Quran and Sunnah that the advancement of education was a religious mandate to limit it to certain people or to those who had connections. Where is it from the Quran and Sunnah that the muslims does a favor to another for ulterior motives. Name any text. Sina would not be able to even with his preposterous extreme literal interpretation of source texts by themselves not withholding the context of them.

Here is another problem with he Islamic background of Sina. He says this Therefore, I felt no need to look elsewhere in order to find the truth, as I was convinced that I have already found it. As Muslims say Talabe ilm bad az wossule maloom mazmoom. The search of knowledge after gaining it is unwise. This pretty much shows the absurdity of the knowledge he gained about Islam since he attributed a faulty and baseless idea that few muslims had and applied it to the legislation since the legislation in actuality says Talibu ilmi fareedhatu ala kulli muslim The vast majority of muslims throughout the centuries of Islam undertook and understood that this authentic hadeeth was not only a reality but that knowledge was ever continuous since all knowledge, its source is from the One whos knowledge is infinite and He disseminates whatever He wishes to His creation.

Upon reading more in-depth of his reasoning for being an apostate, one logically comes to the conclusion that Ali Sina was never a muslim. He was a munafiq in Islam never

really believing the legislation itself. There are versus in he quraan that have attested to the lack of understanding emanating from the munafiqoon (hypocrites). They are dead in spirit, devoid of any compassion, understanding and knowledge. This, unfortunately, is the stark and blatant reality of any of the apostates of Islam in that they were already munafiqoon in Islam and never understood the texts except through the lens of hypocrisy (nifaaq). The logic of these people is dastardly opposed to actual formal logic. And example of this lack of logic and reason can be found in his statement The first stage is shock and then it is denial. The majority of the Muslims are trapped in denial. They are unable and unwilling to admit that Quran is a hoax. They desperately try to explain the unexplainable, find miracles in it and would willingly bend all the rules of logic to prove that the Quran is right It is due to his lack of understanding of logic and reason that lead him to see no logic in a book whos responsibility for the revolution of logical thinking of which no person, no group, no book, was able to accomplish ever in the history of humanity. The deceit of Sina can be seen when he says Like all Muslims I used to believe that all these great men were Muslims, that they had been inspired by the wealth of hidden knowledge that is in the Quran and that if the today's Muslims could regain the original purity of Islam, the long lost glorious days of Islam will return and the Muslims will lead the advancement of the World civilization once again. He is speaking of people like ar-Razi, Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd and many of the intellectual scientists of the muslim world whos very existence is what made the success of the west who they are. Here Ibn Sina deceitfully tries to nullify their Islam. Yet he provides no proof for the negation of their Islam despite the Revelational fact (meaning revelation from the Quran and Sunnah) that states whatever is established by certainty can only be removed by certainty So he provides no reason for them being not muslim. The only conclusion one could draw from his ambigious act of an attempt of destroying Islam is none other than making up a fantasy that It was not their islam that made these men who they were (of being great) so therefore islam is not to be awarded for the group of men who advanced civilization centuries beyond what it would have been had it not been for these men. Since the idea that Islam had a role and forefront in the lives of these men that made them who they were in the search for knowledge due to the hadeeth Talibu ilmi fareedhatu ala kulli muslim then due to Ali Sinas preposterous claims it is presumed that this factual reality is unpalatable to stomach for Ali Sina thus he tries to nullify their Islam without any proof.

Statements of other Apostates whos name is not worth mentioning


Here is a piece of what made another one apostate.
When on the otherwise fine morning of 9/11, I switched on the TV and witnessed two planes hit the WTC with the building falling apart like a pack of card I was amazed, stunned and delighted. A fitting response for the evil US foreign policy, especially towards Palestine. There was no doubt in my mind that this event must have been orchestrated by a Muslim group, most likely by Osama bin Laden but all that played in my mind was that it was all justified; it was necessary to teach America a lesson. Yet, I was never a fan of bin Laden - I would never have wanted his ideology take hold in my own country.

So from the get go this guy never understood Islam. Had he understood he would have realized the seriousness and openly erroneous assumption that 9-11 was justified no matter how much the country did or did not deserve it. That is due toa number one pivotal reality that Allah has commanded those who believe that Do not allow your hatred of a people to cause you to be unjust. Where is it from justice to do what happened in 9-11 and then show from the two sources that this renegade strike was an Islamically mandated and facilitated in the two sources. The proof for his ignorance and an almost negation of Islam before his apostating from the religion is when he exclaimed
This is what I was doing despite the fact that I was hardly a Muslim. Although born to religious parents in South Asia I was never pressed to follow religious rituals and neither did I ever bother to engage myself in those stuffs. My only religious devotion was intermittent praying on Friday Juma and on the 2 yearly days of Eid. I would do fasting only on those days I would be invited for Iftar (fast-breaking) party by friend and relatives. Hindus have been my good friends, as exemplified my having a Hindu housemate.

From this it is apparent that this person never tried at all in sincere attempt to gain a thorough and authentic informing of Islamic education at all. He was mere muslim by name. This is the reality of apostates that I am reminded by the words of Jalal Abualrub where he states in his Holy Wars, Crusades, Jihaad by which the summary of what he said somewhat concludes Those who apostate from other faiths to Islam are the educated and those of reasonable minded whereas those who leave Islam are those who are ignorant and who dont benefit any group or community whatsoever

In Islam, it is extracted from the nussoss (texts) of the Quraan and Sunnah as stated by the many Imaams of Islam that the Muslim is like a bird of two wings, one wing is the fear of Allah and the other is represented of the hope of Allah. The understanding of this is that the muslim, the one who remains true, is the one who has a sense of fear of Allah. Fear is part of the constructive groth of any society in he spiritual sense and is the root cause for the righteousness and basic human rights of a society. Without such fear a person would have no fear in oppressing whoever he wishes from the leaders on down to ordinary common people. This fear is the exact antidote for the common diseases of western societies. The problem that forms an obstacle for this antidote is the western ignorant interpretation of it. It interprets this fear as something that is not part of God and that the ways of peace is not known through fear. Well the inevitable reality spaks quite opposite of his fallacious claim of the west by the mere lifestyle that is basically derived from their fallacious understanding of this concept. However this is not he place to delve into a detailed critic about such satanic notions. The point of the matter is that fear is a part of the righteous existence of humanity, its lack thereof causes people t live in the modality of western ideas, however its ultimate living ends in extremism. Menaing the two wings should not be all fear. Fear if developed in the mind of the worshipper could and does cause extremism of which could lead to an inevitable straying from the truth. Haafidh Ibnul-Qayyim, a Muslim Imaam of the 7th century of the Islamic era propounds on this issue in-depth. Likewise with hope it brings about a balanced behavior in society. With two wings all in favor of hope alone causes another form of extremism which ends in the inevitable deviation o the adherent. This is the reality were such places in western society have adopted this extremism. It is to the point that such extreme hope causes them to go beyond bounds in all walks of life, in the pursuit of happiness, etc, etc and causes them to oppress others with this fundamental that they may call the golden rule or what have you. So the muslim is supposed to be balanced, not falling into one extreme of all fear and no hope like the extremists khawarij do, nor do they fall into the next excessive extreme like the murjiah and the chrtistians and jews and most liberal states of the world have fallen into. As such they are balanced. That is at least for those who uphold and live according to this code. However the abandonment of this code and the lack of knowledge of such a person is made quite apparent when an arab by descent born muslim mentioned he reason for apostating from the religion. Here is her story for her leaving islam

By Diane 2006/02/14 I was born to a Muslim family, in the Middle East. Arabic is my first language. Not until about two years ago I never doubted Islam as a true religion, and Allah is the almighty GOD, and Mohammed is the messenger of Allah to human kind. What else can I know, and I was born to a large family, uneducated parents, who blindly accept everything the book and the haddiths say. As long as I can remember, I always had the tendency to think of God, I wanted to feel close to a supper power, intelligence, great mercy and love. And I thought thats what Allah and Mohammed represent. So I tried my best to follow the teaching of Islam. Except of wearing the veil (I was hopping for Allah to forgive me for my sin), I did a lot of what is required from me as Muslim. I used to pray, sometimes pray extra prayers to please Allah so He let me enter his Heaven. Like a robot I performed the same prayers again and again and again! Every day, at least five times a day. I fasted in Ramadan, and sometimes I fasted extra days. I read the Quran like hundreds of times, and I memorized many parts of it. I read the haddiths (Mohammed sayings) and memorized many of them. And As I am doing all these good deeds! I always, noticed the violence, and the injustice in the teaching of Islam. But I thought maybe thats because I do not understand the peaceful, divine massage yet. So I assumed that the problem is with me, and Mohammed and His Allah know much better then I. I thought I needed to work more on strengthening my faith. I asked Allah to clear my heart, and make me a better Muslim, and to allow me to go straight into paradise, and please, please not to toss me into the hell fire. I used to get horrified by the punishment described in the Quran for those who are the inhabitants of the hell. Sometimes, I cried when I read the Quran because I was too scared, much more then because the Quran is so beautiful and moves people to tears as many people claims. However, I thought the Quran is beautifully written, if rhymes like a poem! Well, I kept on wanting to feel closer to Allah, till about 2 years ago. It was Ramadan, and I was fasting, and sitting in my room every night praying and reading the Quran. I felt the urge to feel God. So I prayed, and prayed, and asked Allah to clear my mind and Guide me, and show me the right path. But the unexpected happed, after days and days of asking Allah his guidance continuously, every time I come to pray or read the Quran I felt sickened, irritated, annoyed. I felt sort of shaking sometimes and angry that I started cursing silently while I am supposed to be performing my prayers. I was troubled of what is happening to me. All what I asked for is to be a better follower, and all what I got is feeling so repelled by the prayers, and the Quran. So I decided to stop praying or reading Quran for a while. And I felt bad about it. I thought maybe, Satan is involved! And the devils are messing with my mind. But later, I calmed down and gradually came to my senses, and after few

months of this incident, I realized that Islam is NOT for me. I am a smart, good person, and Islam is evil wearing fake clothes of a beautiful angel. So I left Islam for good, and I dont follow any other religion. All the religions I know have bad things; I believe they all distorted the Image of God. By making GOD seems like a crazy, blood thirsty, psychopath Man. I think thats disgusting. I will never follow anyone, and only follow my heart, because it knows what is right for me. Naturally, every human knows what is right and what is wrong without needing God to send few Male human massagers or his kids to earth to tell people what to do, and to point out the good and the evil. People already have the ability, a built in system, to recognize what is right and what is wrong, and they have the choice to choose between the two. For instance, I can easily tell the wrong and evil form the good in any thing even if it is claimed to be from above! I now believe in the most loving, most forgiving, a supper power and intelligence that operate in every creature, planet, and universe in a peaceful way. It already gave us a beautiful heaven (this universe that we are in), and it will continue to do so by moving us to other heavens after we leave this one, and it also granted us the gift to know the good and the ability to do it, and a freedom to choose. This power doesnt need creatures to praise it; it doesnt burn a fire to Barbecue people. It is simply much greater than that... Thank you Blessings,

The adoption of total fear in its extreme form has resulted in her straying, and a mighty straying it was for this is the fullest extent of abandonment of being balanced with hope and fear. Such extremism has lead her to the detriment of her own soul. So much of the reasoning for apostating are the results of the lack of understanding of the source texts or bringing them to their correct implications from within the context it is to be understood in or due to an improper methodology employed in a particular practice of the religion or more importantly and most commonly used is that of the actions of the muslims themselves. Here is another prime example

I am an apostate of Persian origin. Like a lot of you, I was a believer who's conscience would not allow me to speak against Mohammad & his Koran. I spent most of my high school and college life in muslim countries. Islamic ideology was a subject of study right up to University level. However, the curriculum was predominantly about Islam's five pillers, battles (all of which won by muslims including Uhud) and other various topics but very little was taught about the actual biography of Mohammad. Seeds of doubt were sown approx 3 yrs back when for the first time in my life, I picked up a biography of Mohammad written by Karen Armstrong. There were things in there I felt needed further investigation because it kind of suprised me. Mind you, I was never religious per se, but I respected the Koran and alway felt that it the immutable word of Allah.

1. Of Persian descent, which basically means his upbringing in Islam was already in a defunct form. I dont particularly mean the mere nationality of a person, but by the supposed ideological mindset of a certain group or nationality. 2. He was taught in an institution where they lacked proper Islamic education thus his comment on the issue remains of no real use 3. When he did seek a piece of knowledge regarding the seerah of the prophet, he took he wrong avenue, he took a non muslim for the education of the biography of the prophets life. This completely opposes the logic and reason of the fact that knowledge of a matter is to be attained by its own specialists in the field. 4. He from the get go was not really religious per se which is reason enough of the lack of knowledge regarding the proper understanding of the texts.

Here is more

My journey to enlightenment started when I was a final year medical student. One day as I was praying in the rest room of my college one of my professor enter the room. He was sitting there and looking at me praying. When I finish he said "Son can I give you some advice" I replied "OK sir" Then he something which I will remember forever. This is his exact words Dont waste your time kissing the floor. The whole Islam is a scam. It is a mad-man ideology of hate. Quran is nothing but a book of baloney." I was shocked. This proof is a very nice man. Most students liked him. He even took extra hours to teach us. Out of all professors I like him the most. I was thinking how he can say that. I just kept quite and walked out of the room. Later that day I told my roommate about it. He said it was a common knowledge that he is an atheist. My roommate told me how much he hated this professor. I was dumbfounded. My roommate always saw him to ask his help in studies yet he hated him. Then I told myself that I have to save this man from hell. I thought if I understand Islam deeply, I would be able to explain to him the truth of Islam. I bought a Quran translation by Yusuf Ali and a translation of Sahih Bukhari. That was the turning point in my life. The more I read the Quran; the more realized that the book cannot be from God. The verse on slavery finally broke the shell. I am free now. Free from fear. A religion should give mankind a reason to live yet Islam gives reasons to die.

1. He gains a piece of advice about religion from an atheist and then calls such a one a good man 2. he demonstrates the fact that he never read the quran in the entirety of his muslim life as the wording appears that he first does so upon the intention to refute the professor.

Another part of the apostate problem is the execution of jahili (pre-Islamic days or existence of humanity without the completion of the Islamic religion of the prophets ending with Muhammad) that is performed by muslims and pasting it to the islamic religion. Here is an example of this My marriage to this South Asian fellow ended after he gave me a serious head injury. Though this man wasn't very religious he clearly believed that I was to submit to him and what he wanted .The problem with this and for the fact that she was not a born muslim clearly shows a hidden attempt to purposefully mar Islam with this propaganda by her statement in bold. If one adorns himself or HERself with reason and understanding, one clearly notices upon experience that all men, of every and any race wish to have control of their women.

As one who was a convert I can speak of first hand of how many of the races outside of Islamic orientation audaciously treat their women and the desire to outright control them and this happens more so among the non muslims than with the muslims however much the apostates dislike to hear such a reality.

Here is a speck of unthankfulness for the very origin of this apostate He writes It is true that the innovative infidels (Kafirs) are making Muslims much easier to practise Islam than ever. All the useful stuffs that you see in your open eyes are invented by the infidels. Muslims waste time for their five-time per day prayers and Ramadan. Muslims use aeroplanes and speedy vehicles to go to Mecca for hajj. They use calculators to make payments for Zakat. Four of the five pillars of Islam are performed with the help of non-Muslim products. Unfortunately, the helpers of Muslims will be residents of hell. I could not agree with the judgement that the creative infidels who made the world better will burn in hell for eternity.

As is clear as the daylight sun, this apostate has just defied pretty much every historian in existence. That is he wishes to speak of a trivial matter of muslims adopting the use of technological advances of society made by kuffar (disbelievers in God) in such an ungrateful tone by which such ungratefulness is embedded in the fact that the very basics of the infidels that he calls them came from us in the first place, there would not have been no airplanes without the existence of us, there would have not been calculators had it not been for our service to humanity that no on wished to perform in the entire world. So while if it is true that four of the five pillars of islam are helped by non muslims, the very existence of those non muslim nations were brought to their real existence in this time of ours due to us. Such ingrates fail to see the reality of where matters have originally come from. The evidences for the scrupulousness and preposterousness of reasons and the (il)logic of the apostates are all too numerous and amply found on their websites and is clear as the daylight sun. This endeavor is just a brief summary of the negation of emaan (faith) in the hearts of these people even within Islam or that they have operated in Islam from the world of inaccuracy in understanding of the nusoos (texts) of the two sources. There world in Islam operated from the avenues of 1. shakk (doubt) which is kufr al-akbaar meaning that it negates islam itself 2. iraadha (despondency) is also kufr al-akbaar 3. takdheeb (outright rejection of the clear commands of allah due to some shubuhaat (doubts) in their minds) which is also kufr al-akbaar

Yet the ironical nature of such individuals is their labeling of their misconstrued notions of the matters where they remained in utter confusion or misapplication of a matter as Im a maverick in thinking or Im always open-minded and I am no longer trapped in blind following and now I am a free thinking person. Truly I have never seen a greater form of injustice of attributing ignorance and insincerity with the above labels.

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