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One last safety measure would be to use larger than the current minimum sized (60x75 cm) signs. Other cities are using signs between 75x90 cm and up to 90x120 cm at areas identified as having speeding problems. All divided highways in the provincial jurisdiction outside of Winnipeg already have these larger signs. The results appear positive since the RCMP have never publicized speeding problems outside the city in the way Winnipeg Police have about Bishop Grandin and other areas. The best comparison for Bishop Grandin would be Anderson Blvd in Calgary (see attached pictures). Just like Bishop Grandin, Anderson is a major 80 km/h four lane divided arterial road servicing communities in the south end of the city. Also in comparison, Anderson has an extended section near its west end that lacks traffic signals and would allow for excessive speeds. The difference is that this portion of Anderson has extra large speed limit signs dual signed and with proper placement. It's obviously effective, because a Google search was unsuccessful in finding any links to information from Calgary Police regarding a speeding or collision problem on Anderson. This is obviously the solution for Winnipeg and I ask Winnipeg Police to begin taking steps necessary to see Winnipeg Public Works bring in these initiatives. It is my understanding that Winnipeg Police have claimed they do not get involved in signing issues and leave this as a Public Works matter. This method simply does not work and is not done in other cities. A traffic engineer in Halifax has indicated that his city has installed extra large speed signs as requested by police at problem speed locations. A worker in Abbotsford stated that Public Works and Police have monthly meetings and discuss how to improve road infrastructure. This is just to name a few and is obviously an initiative that Winnipeg Police needs to take, if safety is truly a goal and not revenue. Public Works cannot identify problem speed areas and make appropriate changes without the input of Police. E-mail addresses of members of Winnipeg Police appeared on Public Works e-mails regarding the removal of the median warning signs before intersection cameras. If Winnipeg Police can be involved with sign removal, they can certainly serve a role in seeing signs installed for safety. "If we're able to reduce the amount of speed, we're able to increase safety"Mark Hodgson, Winnipeg Sun, July 3, 2011. I wish to be informed on what measures the WPS is taking with Public Works to address these issues. I can be contacted at csweryda@hotmail.com. Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response. Sincerely,
Chris Sweryda P.S. My previous letter from about six months ago regarding inadequate speed reduction signing has not yet been answered. If there was a response that somehow didn't make it to me, I would appreciate if it could be resent. Please let me know if my initial letter needs to be resubmitted. Thanks. cc: Manitoba Public Insurance cc: Winnipeg Mayors Office cc: Winnipeg Public Works
Comparison Pictures
Bishop Grandin EB east of Waverley has only one minimum sized speed limit sign on the right that is too far off the road and too high. The power station in the background is the normal Winnipeg Police enforcement location. The WB side of Bishop Grandin has the same problems as the EB.
Anderson Blvd (Calgary) EB west of 24th Street SB has oversized speed limit signs dual signed on both sides of the road. The lower signs at a shorter distance from the road puts the signs in the driver's line of sight. Note the dual signing on the opposing direction at the next light pole up.
Below are pictures of dual signed speed limit signs from other cities across western Canada that are both larger and smaller then Winnipeg. Winnipeg is truly alone for not utilizing the advantages of dual speed limit signing placed in proper proximity to the road. Kelowna (British Columbia) Edmonton (Alberta)
Saskatoon (Saskatchewan)
Regina (Saskatchewan)