Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:21 AM]: hey cynthia r u busy?

Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:21 AM]: hey not reli Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:22 AM]: ok can u walk me throu sizing 3 phase separator? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:22 AM]: u using the template we use in PT? Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:22 AM]: yeah i am looking into your 3 rd stage separator in the Equipment folder Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:23 AM]: u kw whether u using the submerged baffle or is an overfill baffle coz mine is just overfill Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:23 AM]: ok not sure but let use overfill baffle i am in folder K:\PT-Feed\Depts\PR\2009 FEED\Equipment\Vessel\MBD626002_3rd St age Separator\Calculations looking at 3rd Stage Separator_Oil section sizing.xls Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:26 AM]: that calc is jsut use to determine the distance of the weir from the tangent l ine Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:27 AM]: ok which one should i look now? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:28 AM]: i think u should start with the overall one Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:29 AM]: 3rd Stage Separator.xls? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:29 AM]: yup Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:29 AM]: ok start with rating tab? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:30 AM]: after u input the min. req time or height Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:31 AM]: ok, where should I start? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:31 AM]: is an iterative process... u input all the prop and minimum requirement? Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:31 AM]: under Current tab? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:32 AM]: i just update the newsize tab Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:32 AM]: i see input under fluid properties Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:32 AM]: yea... blue ones Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:33 AM]: good yellow? Separator and Baffle Dimensioning section?

Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:33 AM]: yellow is the number u need Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:33 AM]: ok it is calculated => yellow? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:34 AM]: nope after u input the blue Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:34 AM]: ok Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:34 AM]: click the rate separator and see wat u get Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:34 AM]: ok Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:36 AM]: residence time will be changed right? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:37 AM]: yea...it all depends on the time and height u need Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:37 AM]: right Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:37 AM]: mine is the overfill weir...so u see the weir height 4.643? Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:37 AM]: so you adjust the internal diameter and length? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:38 AM]: in V64? Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:38 AM]: correct Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:39 AM]: yea...kinda play ard with the ID and length make sure u get both residence tim e u need.... i think the tricky part is match the weir height on both spreadsheet u kinda determine the weir height and location on the oil section sizing sprea dsheet Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:41 AM]: i see what about the nozzles size? you specified them? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:42 AM]: u just input the blue...should be automatic Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:42 AM]: i see Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:42 AM]: then u specify the size which gives u an ID bigger than the minimum Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:43 AM]: I see cool next determine the weir height and location on the oil section sizing spreadsheet? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:44 AM]: yup Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:44 AM]: in the oil section, what we need to do? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:44 AM]: input the blue ignore the grey use the same ID as the other spreadsheet Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:45 AM]:

ok it looks like the same Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:45 AM]: then play with the length....thats the distance of the weir from the tangent l ine... u have to make sure u have enuf surge time for the oil section and make sure V66 = 4.643 thats the number u use in the other spreadsheet Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:47 AM]: ok one spreadsheet give you oil surge time, one is water? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:47 AM]: yup Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:47 AM]: tricky Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:49 AM]: we adjust it a bit after clicking the rate separator to get watever time we th ink is needed... Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:49 AM]: how come the lenght is different ? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:50 AM]: which length Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:50 AM]: separator length? one is 8.5 one is 19? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:50 AM]: the length in the oil section spredsheet is just the distance of the weir from the tangent line Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:50 AM]: so weir is at 1/2 total length Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:50 AM]: it can be anything Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:51 AM]: but in ur cals, it is at 1/2 right? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:51 AM]: half is 9.5 Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:51 AM]: so why we have 8.5? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:52 AM]: it all depends on the time and volume u need on the oil side it can be anything not necessarily half Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:52 AM]: i see Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:52 AM]: so while u play with the ID and total lenght Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:52 AM]: but that determine the location of the weir? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:52 AM]: u play with the weir position too... yup Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:53 AM]: i see Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:53 AM]: make sure both spreadsheet has the same weir position Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:53 AM]: i see Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [9:55 AM]: me go walk first Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [9:55 AM]: oik

bother you after walk Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:45 AM]: hello, are you back? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:47 AM]: yup i lost my badge while we wakl >_< Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:48 AM]: what? did you find it? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:48 AM]: nope...dunno where i lost it... Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:49 AM]: gotta be kidding me Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:49 AM]: probably go another walk later to look for it.... Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:49 AM]: haha ok Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:49 AM]: is so windy outside i guess i dun even kw i drop sth Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:49 AM]: yeah it is windy and chilling this week nice thou, and sunny too Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:50 AM]: yea.... Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:50 AM]: LiAHH to Weir/LAH and NLL to LAH/Weir refer to the same thing? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:54 AM]: yup weir = LAH of oil Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:54 AM]: ok Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:54 AM]: thats wat we assume Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:54 AM]: ok i see the calculate residence time is different because one case using the water flo w and other using oil flow rate? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:57 AM]: since exxonmobil residence time is from bottom to Low Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:57 AM]: ok Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [10:57 AM]: both residence time should be on the main spreadsheet only oil surge time is on the oil sizing spreadsheet we consider the oil residence time is from the water HH to the weir height Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [10:58 AM]: ok Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [11:03 AM]: again, what is the criteria for weir location, do you remember? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [11:04 AM]: there is no criteria where or how tall Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [11:04 AM]: ok Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [11:04 AM]: in GP, process or vessels Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [11:04 AM]:

then how should we play with the weir location? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [11:04 AM]: so just depends on the time u need Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [11:04 AM]: which time? Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [11:04 AM]: surge time Ta, Nghiem (Monrovia) [11:04 AM]: i see cool, i think i kinda get it thanks Leung, Cynthia (Arcadia) [11:04 AM]: good np