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1 UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK


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In Re: : 02-16212
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ACTRADE FINANCIAL TECHNOLOGIES LTD. : One Bowling Green
5 : New York, New York
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6 Debtor. : December 16, 2008
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8 TRANSCRIPT OF MOTION FOR SETTLEMENT


BEFORE THE HONORABLE ALLAN L. GROPPER
9 UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY JUDGE

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APPEARANCES:
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For the Trustee: PHILIP ANKER, ESQ.
12 Jonah Meer JAMES H. MILLAR, ESQ.
Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and
13 Dorr LLP
399 Park Avenue
14 New York, New York 10022

15 PATRICK SALISBURY, ESQ.


Salisbury & Ryan LLP
16 1325 Avenue of the Americas
7th Floor
17 New York, New York 10019

18 For National Fire: DAVID BOYAR, ESQ.


Insurance Company D’Amato & Lynch LLP
19 70 Pine Street
New York, New York 10270
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For the Chapter 7: EDWARD FLINT, ESQ.
21 Trustee SILVERMAN ACAMPORA LLP
100 Jericho Quadrangle
22 Suite 300
Jericho, New York 11753
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24 (Additional appearances next page)

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Proceedings recorded by electronic sound recording,


transcript produced by transcription service
1 UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT 2
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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3 APPEARANCES: (cont’d)

4 For Amos Aharoni: SIGMUND S. WISSNER-GROSS, ESQ.


Brown Rudnick
5 Seven Times Square
New York, New York 10036
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For Alexander Stonkus: LANCE GOTKO, ESQ.
7 Friedman Kaplan Seiler & Adelman LLP
1633 Broadway
8 New York, New York 10019

9 For Kellogg Capital: PAUL RUBIN, ESQ.


Group Herrick, Feinstein LLP
10 2 Park Avenue
New York, New York 10016
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For Securities Class: CLIFFORD GOODSTEIN, ESQ.
12 Plaintiffs: Milberg LLP
One Pennsylvania Place
13 New York, New York 10119

14 For Party to Settlement: KATHERINE ASH, ESQ.


Agreement, Joseph Troutman Sanders LLP
15 D’Allesandris The Chrysler Building
405 Lexington Avenue
16 New York, New York 10174

17 For Deloitte Touche: EDWARD J. YODOWITZ, ESQ.


Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher &
18 Flom LLP
Four Times Square
19 New York, New York 10036

20 For Eric Resenberg,: ERIC RESENBERG


Shareholder (Telephonically)
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22 Court Transcriber: SALLY REIDY


TypeWrite Word Processing Service
23 211 N. Milton Road
Saratoga Springs, New 12866
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1 THE COURT: All right. We’ll then go on to Actrade

2 Financial Technologies. We need to get somebody on the

3 telephone.

4 [Pause in proceedings.]

5 THE COURT: I’ll take appearances from those in the

6 courtroom on the Actrade case and then from anyone on the

7 telephone.

8 MR. ROSENBERG: (Telephonically). Hello. This is

9 Eric Resenberg.

10 THE COURT: You’ll have to wait. I’ll take

11 appearances from those in the courtroom first.

12 Go ahead. Go ahead.

13 MR. ANKER: Good morning, Your --

14 THE COURT: Yes? Go ahead, state your appearance.

15 MR. ANKER: Good morning, Your Honor. Philip Anker,

16 Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr for the trustee --

17 THE COURT: All right.

18 MR. ANKER: -- Jonah Meer, joined at table by Patrick

19 Salisbury of Salisbury Ryan, Mr. Meer, the trustee, and, to Mr.

20 Meer’s right, James Millar of my office. Good morning, Your

21 Honor.

22 THE COURT: All right. Anybody else appearing today?

23 MR. BOYAR: Yes. David Boyar of D’Amato Lynch for

24 National Union Fire Insurance Company.

25 MR. FLINT: Edward Flint, Silverman Acampora, counsel


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1 for Kenneth Silverman, the Chapter 7 trustee of Allou

2 Distributors.

3 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Sigmund Wissner-Gross from Brown

4 Rudnick on behalf of Amos Aharoni.

5 MR. GOTKO: Lance Gotko of Friedman Kaplan Seiler &

6 Adelman on behalf of Alexander Stonkus.

7 MR. RUBIN: Paul Rubin, Herrick Feinstein, Kellogg

8 Capital Group, which I believe is the largest shareholder

9 [inaudible].

10 MR. GOODSTEIN: Clifford Goodstein from Milberg,

11 securities class plaintiffs.

12 MS. ASH: Katherine Ash, Troutman Sanders, Joseph

13 D’Allesandris.

14 THE COURT: For whom?

15 MS. ASH: For Joseph D’Allesandris.

16 THE COURT: Who is he?

17 MS. ASH: He is one of the parties to the settlement

18 agreement.

19 THE COURT: One of the?

20 MS. ASH: Parties to the settlement agreement.

21 THE COURT: And what is his position in the

22 settlement agreement? How does he get interested in the

23 settlement agreement?

24 MS. ASH: Because he was a party to the underlying

25 class action, and he had signed --


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1 THE COURT: He was a defendant in the class action.

2 MS. ASH: Yes.

3 THE COURT: All right. That makes it clear.

4 MR. YODOWITZ: Edward Yodowitz, Skadden Arps, for

5 Deloitte, also a defendant in the class action and a party to

6 the settlement.

7 THE COURT: Right. Okay. Anyone else in the

8 courtroom? Then on the telephone.

9 MR. RESENBERG: This is Eric Resenberg representing

10 myself and other investors. We have --

11 THE COURT: Well, you’re representing yourself, Mr.

12 Resenberg, I don’t know about other investors. You’ll have to

13 file something to represent others. And you have, you claim to

14 have shares of stock in Actrade; is that right?

15 MR. RESENBERG: Yes, that’s correct.

16 THE COURT: How much?

17 MR. RESENBERG: About a half million shares.

18 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

19 All right. We have I believe a motion by the trustee

20 for approval of a settlement agreement, and I’ve had a number

21 of pleadings. Yesterday I signed an order that terminated the

22 filing under seal and opened that up. But I don’t think there

23 seems to be much dispute. The parties here have available to

24 them the basic information necessary to argue this motion. I

25 have received papers from a large number of parties and I’ve


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1 read them.

2 So I guess you’re up first, Mr. Anker.

3 MR. ANKER: Good morning, Your Honor. And again for

4 the record, Philip Anker, Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and

5 Dorr. We did file yesterday afternoon, and I apologize, Your

6 Honor, for the lateness of the hour, a reply memorandum.

7 THE COURT: I have that, I read that too.

8 MR. ANKER: Good. Your Honor, I will try to be

9 brief. Obviously happy to answer any questions the Court had.

10 It seems to me it makes sense to try to put the matter in a

11 framework in terms of what the law is and what the law requires

12 and then apply that law. I want to start -- and I normally

13 wouldn’t start on a point that is somewhat defensive but I

14 think it goes to the trustee’s bona fides, and I think it’s

15 important to start with.

16 There is a suggestion in the papers certainly filed

17 by National Union and a little bit by Mr. Aharoni that somehow

18 the trustee shouldn’t come to this Court and provide the

19 information he has and be candid and direct with the Court

20 about what has transpired. I submit that the Martin case and

21 numerous cases that have filed it, and no case has rejected it,

22 hold directly to the contrary. This trustee is like every

23 trustee, both a case trustee and a liquidating trustee, a

24 fiduciary. He not only may but I submit he must be candid with

25 the Court and look for the best opportunity for this estate and
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1 represent it diligently. I would like to think the case law

2 cited puts that issue to rest.

3 The second question, it seemed to me, in terms of

4 legal standard is what is Your Honor supposed to decide. Is

5 Your Honor supposed to decide, as Mr. Aharoni seems to be

6 submitting in his brief, whether at the time the prior trustee

7 entered into the settlement agreement that was a settlement

8 agreement at the time that was above the lowest range of

9 reasonableness. I submit that isn’t the question. It isn’t

10 the question for two reasons. One, there is a different

11 trustee today, a trustee who -- and the motion is before Your

12 Honor today, not three years ago. And that trustee is

13 supported by the official committee here -- sorry, Your Honor

14 -- believe --

15 THE COURT: Go ahead.

16 MR. ANKER: -- believes this agreement is not in the

17 best interest of the estate based in large measure on events

18 that have transpired since.

19 THE COURT: All right. If I understand your papers

20 and your position correctly, your position is, in substance,

21 that Mr. Aharoni has breached the agreement, has failed to

22 cooperate, and that, in connection with that failure,

23 information has come to your attention that he has

24 misappropriated over $30 million of property of these debtors.

25 MR. ANKER: Your Honor, yes in part. I want to be


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1 clear on what I’m suggesting the legal standard is here. If

2 nothing had happened, nothing had happened since the trustee

3 entered into that original agreement, it would still be within

4 the province of the trustee today to say that deal isn’t in the

5 best interest of the estate for the following reasons.

6 Whenever someone enters into an agreement with --

7 THE COURT: Now, that’s your position. I think I can

8 say that there is conflicting authority on that proposition.

9 MR. ANKER: I don’t believe so, Your Honor, and I

10 want to be clear on this. I think there is conflicting

11 authority on the following question. May a trustee simply

12 unilaterally walk away from an agreement. May he simply say

13 I’m not going to bring it to the Court’s attention. And I will

14 be candid with Your Honor, there is conflicting authority. I

15 think the better answer to that question is no, he may not, and

16 I don’t argue to the contrary. I think there is uniform

17 authority, however, that if a trustee enters into an agreement,

18 while he is duty bound then to bring it to the Court for

19 approval, he may, if he concludes thereafter that the

20 settlement is not in the best interest of the estate, so inform

21 the Court of his views. Indeed he is duty bound and I would

22 submit in breach of his duty not to. Case after case says that

23 when you are a party and you enter into an agreement with a

24 trustee you know that trustee always has a fiduciary out. He

25 has an obligation to benefit the estate and look for the best
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1 proposal. And indeed, Your Honor, if you look at some of the


2 cases we cited, the Lane case says the trustee, it doesn’t
3 matter even if there has been simply, by the trustee, a

4 reassessment of his legal position.

5 Having said that, I submit Your Honor doesn’t have to

6 reach that question. Because there have been new events that

7 have occurred. There are several. First, Your Honor, when the

8 prior trustee entered into the agreement he did not have

9 records, which we now have, that unequivocally, and Mr. Meer

10 has put in an affidavit confirming, unequivocally attest that

11 the $30 million went to bank accounts controlled by Mr.

12 Aharoni. This was $31 million taken out of this estate after a

13 whistle blower email came, after securities litigation was

14 filed, after, Your Honor, cooperation was sought by the board

15 and denied by Mr. Aharoni.

16 Second, Your Honor, Mr. Aharoni signed a separate

17 agreement in which he agreed that the estate would dismiss

18 without prejudice, without prejudice its lawsuit against him in

19 Delaware, and in exchange he would cooperate in helping resolve

20 the Allou claim but in addition to that it expressly provides

21 in seeking the recovery of that $31.6 million. Your Honor, not

22 one penny has been recovered. And these are loan agreements,

23 simple negotiable instruments and documents as to which there

24 should be no dispute. Cooperation here meant payment of $31.6

25 million plus interest. Every one of those parties has denied


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1 liability, in many cases saying in pleadings filed in Israel we

2 did not receive the money.

3 Third, Your Honor, the trustee, when he entered into

4 the original agreement, believed, and he attested to this both

5 in his original memorandum -- indeed when you look at the

6 section of the memorandum justifying the original settlement

7 and why to give a release to Mr. Aharoni it is the only

8 rationale, and he provided an affidavit yesterday confirming

9 that he understood at the time that that was the price one had

10 to pay, if you were the estate, to get -- to obtain collateral

11 benefits, those collateral benefits being the settlement with

12 the securities plaintiffs.

13 Your Honor, there are no signed papers. And I’m not

14 going to mislead the Court, there’s always risk. But I’ve had

15 -- and I represent to this Court as an officer of the court --

16 discussions with Mr. Boyar, discussions with Mr. Yodowitz,

17 discussion with Mr. Shapiro who is the, as I understand it, the

18 primary counsel for the securities plaintiffs, and based on

19 those discussions -- and I’m a reasonably experienced lawyer

20 that’s been around the block a few times -- confident that if

21 this Court disapproves this settlement, we are going to be able

22 to negotiate a modified settlement. And let me be clear on

23 what that modified settlement will provide.

24 THE COURT: I don’t think you should. I don’t think

25 I am going to decide the case on the basis of --


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1 MR. ANKER: Okay.

2 THE COURT: -- what you might be able to do. You’ve

3 stated the trustee’s view that this is not an all or nothing

4 proposition. But we don’t have any other certain course of

5 action here, and I think that’s where the record stands today.

6 MR. ANKER: Your Honor, we don’t. And it’s

7 understandable, it seems to me, that parties will not want to

8 enter into modified agreements until and unless they know

9 whether the existing agreement will or will not be approved.

10 And it’s understandable in that regard that parties such as the

11 securities plaintiffs, National Union, if they had their

12 druthers, would prefer approval of the existing --

13 THE COURT: I’ve read their papers. I think I

14 understand their position.

15 MR. ANKER: Okay. Your Honor, the other fact -- I

16 read Mr. Aharoni’s papers in particular to be internally

17 inconsistent. On the one hand I hear him to say Your Honor

18 should look back in time with blinders on recent events and ask

19 the question whether the trustee, when he entered into the

20 original settlement, was acting above the lowest range of

21 reasonableness. On the other hand I read him to say the only

22 way Martin applies is if there’s been something new and a

23 change in circumstances. And I would argue that the right

24 answer is neither of the above. The right answer is you

25 consider the motion today and you do base it on today’s record,


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1 but even if that record hasn’t changed the trustee can come in

2 and take the position he has taken.

3 THE COURT: Well, are you saying the record has or

4 hasn’t changed --

5 MR. ANKER: It has, Your Honor.

6 THE COURT: -- in the last several years?

7 MR. ANKER: It has. It absolutely has. It has

8 because, a, we’ve not obtained any cooperation; b, it’s

9 indisputable not one penny of that 31.6 million has been

10 recovered; point three, we do believe and the trustee has made

11 a representation to this Court that it has engaged in, and no

12 one has denied it, substantial negotiations with other parties

13 and believes it can obtain new agreements. And for all of

14 those reasons the record has changed significantly.

15 What is the argument. Let’s step back a second and

16 look at this as if -- from the trustee’s standpoint, from the

17 estate’s standpoint. Why is it that this settlement doesn’t

18 make sense. First, the trustee under this settlement would be

19 giving a release to Mr. Aharoni in exchange for no payment

20 whatsoever from Mr. Aharoni to the estate. Not one penny.

21 Number two, there’s no dispute, no dispute whatsoever that

22 $31.6 million left the estate’s bank accounts. There’s no

23 dispute at all that Mr. Aharoni caused those transfers. He may

24 take the position that they were legitimate loans and

25 legitimate transfers to third parties. We believe we have


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1 unequivocal evidence demonstrating on the contrary. And I note

2 he did not submit an affidavit to this Court --

3 THE COURT: That --

4 MR. ANKER: -- and he is not here.

5 THE COURT: That is noted.

6 MR. ANKER: So from the estate’s standpoint it

7 believes it has claims for breach of fiduciary duty, claims for

8 theft, for conversion and the like that are extraordinarily

9 strong and for real dollars. Put aside for a moment all the

10 other action, the options and the like that add to it tens of

11 millions of dollars, we’re talking about directly 31.6 million

12 plus interest. Second, we have -- Your Honor may ask the

13 question but isn’t this an Israeli and aren’t there issues

14 about pursuing him.

15 THE COURT: Well, we’re not trying that case today.

16 MR. ANKER: I --

17 THE COURT: We’ll see if we will need to try to case

18 some day but we’re not trying that case today, so I don’t think

19 you need to get too deeply into it. I hear the number, and I

20 hear particularly that you tell me that he’s not cooperated.

21 And if I read the settlement agreement, both of them, both

22 versions properly, he’s got to cooperate.

23 MR. ANKER: That’s right, Your Honor.

24 THE COURT: All right.

25 MR. ANKER: My point on this --


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1 THE COURT: So I think it’s time for you to move on

2 to another point.

3 MR. ANKER: Your Honor, let me answer the question

4 you just said. We will not be, if we includes Your Honor,

5 trying this case. If Your Honor disapproves this settlement,

6 our intent is to refile this case in Delaware and proceed

7 there. And there is no reason, Your Honor, once the Allou

8 claim is resolved, we cannot close this estate. There is no

9 reason the securities litigation cannot be ended. We will be

10 litigating in another courtroom in front of the Delaware Court

11 of Chancery.

12 My only point, Your Honor, was there -- in terms of

13 your assessing the trustee’s judgment here, it is worth noting

14 that we have an opinion of the Delaware Chancery Court denying

15 Mr. Aharoni’s prior motion to dismiss for want of personal

16 jurisdiction, denying his motion to dismiss for want of subject

17 matter jurisdiction, denying his motion to dismiss for want of

18 improper service of process. And in the agreement he expressly

19 agrees, a, to a contractual tolling of any limitations period

20 and, b, he agrees that service of process may occur and he

21 won’t raise any defense. Those issues inform the trustee’s

22 judgment.

23 THE COURT: All right. I understand that.

24 MR. ANKER: Let me address one last point, and I will

25 let others speak and then I’ll respond. There -- one of the
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1 responses that I think we take most seriously is that of DMI

2 Capital. Because unlike Mr. Aharoni, unlike National Union,

3 they are a beneficiary of the trust. The only other

4 beneficiary of the trust that has filed papers is the Allou

5 trustee, who has supported our position.

6 I will say, Your Honor, the trustee -- and I want to

7 be both candid but careful in what I say. The trustee has been

8 concerned for some time of indications that he believes Mr.

9 Aharoni is trying through third parties to sabotage this

10 process. We do note that DMI Capital, notwithstanding that it

11 says it’s terribly concerned about delay here, has in a week

12 told us it has increased apparently its position in shares, a

13 seemingly difficult to reconcile action if you’re really

14 concerned. But the bottom line is who is a member of the

15 trustee is a matter for another day and a matter, frankly, not

16 within the trustee’s control. We are fiduciaries and we care

17 about what our --

18 THE COURT: Well, anyone with any involvement in this

19 case, and my involvement goes back I think probably five years

20 before yours --

21 MR. ANKER: It does, Your Honor.

22 THE COURT: -- Mr. Anker, is concerned about the

23 length of time that has elapsed.

24 MR. ANKER: There is no doubt --

25 THE COURT: So there’s no reason for anyone


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1 interested in this case not to be very seriously concerned

2 about the length of time that has elapsed. But that’s only one

3 issue to take into account. So let me hear from some of the

4 other parties.

5 MR. ANKER: Thank you, Your Honor.

6 THE COURT: Thank you.

7 Anyone -- I’ll first hear from anyone else who wishes

8 to support the trustee’s position wishes to be heard. Then

9 perhaps it is time for me to hear from Mr. Aharoni then. All

10 right.

11 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Thank you, Your Honor. Sigmund

12 Wissner-Gross from Brown Rudnick. Taking into account that

13 Your Honor has read all the papers, I think it might be just

14 helpful for me to focus on a couple of points. It isn’t our

15 position that Mr. Anker shouldn’t have the ability to alert

16 Your Honor to more current developments; we’re not suggesting

17 that. Rather having carefully read his papers, it’s clear to

18 me, as indicated in my affidavits, Your Honor, that the

19 supposed new developments that he’s identified are really

20 nothing more than a re-articulation of what I had known all too

21 well in terms of the trustee’s position before I entered into,

22 on behalf of Mr. Aharoni, the initial stipulation of settlement

23 in March 2004, which was a -- it’s not a stipulation that’s

24 before the Court, it’s the side stipulation that we entered

25 into pursuant to which the Delaware action was dismissed


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1 without prejudice. And in particular, Your Honor --

2 THE COURT: Stipulation of settlement in the Delaware

3 action --

4 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Yes. That was a --

5 THE COURT: -- is that right? That’s Exhibit G and

6 then --

7 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Correct. And then there’s an --

8 THE COURT: -- Exhibit H and Exhibit --

9 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Well, the initial stipulation --

10 THE COURT: -- M to your --

11 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Yeah, the initial --

12 THE COURT: -- your papers.

13 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Yes.

14 THE COURT: You’ve got it right here.

15 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Yes. They were submitted to Your

16 Honor.

17 THE COURT: All right.

18 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: And while I didn’t like --

19 THE COURT: And as I read those stipulations, they

20 say that Mr. Aharoni commits to cooperate --

21 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Yes.

22 THE COURT: -- with the trustee.

23 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Yes, and --

24 THE COURT: That’s --

25 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: -- there’s a --


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1 THE COURT: And you know as a practicing lawyer that

2 that’s not unusual.

3 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: That’s not unusual. And I --

4 THE COURT: And --

5 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: -- attempted to Your Honor --

6 THE COURT: -- are you able to testify today from

7 firsthand knowledge as to whether Mr. Aharoni has or has not

8 cooperated?

9 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Well let me tell you what I can

10 testify to as an officer of the court.

11 THE COURT: Why don’t you answer my question --

12 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Well, I --

13 THE COURT: -- then you can tell me what you want to

14 tell me. Answer my question.

15 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Well, I was involved for certain

16 periods of time, so my involvement was from the time I was

17 retained in --

18 THE COURT: So the answer is pretty obvious. You

19 can’t testify --

20 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: No, but --

21 THE COURT: -- firsthand as to your client’s

22 cooperation or lack of corporation in Israel, can you?

23 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: No, no, I can’t testify as to

24 that, Your Honor. But I can speak to what I did at his

25 direction in connection with the Allou proceeding --


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1 THE COURT: That’s fine.

2 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: -- what I did in connection with

3 the mediation, which, while I’m subject to constraints given

4 the fact that that was -- for example, the mediation was

5 subject to a confidentiality agreement --

6 THE COURT: I don’t -- is that the mediation with the

7 Allou --

8 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: No, no. That was the mediation

9 that in May 2004, pursuant to which an agreement in principle

10 was reached to settle the class action --

11 THE COURT: Okay.

12 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: -- which is the subject that is

13 before Your Honor.

14 THE COURT: Let me ask you one other question. Does

15 your client desire an evidentiary hearing in connection with

16 these proceedings, and in particular does your client desire an

17 evidentiary hearing at which I could take evidence as to

18 whether he has or he hasn’t cooperated with the trustee?

19 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: No, Your Honor, and for two

20 reasons. One, the cooperation agreement is in the Delaware

21 stipulation that if the issues are litigated as to the claims

22 that Mr. Anker seeks to pursue, those will have to be litigated

23 in Delaware. Whether or not he has cooperated, his position --

24 as indicated in my papers is that he has -- will have be

25 decided by a Delaware judge. Because the threshold matter, if


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1 the Delaware Chancery Court decides that Mr. Anker in his

2 conduct in attempting to not seek the approval of settlement

3 has in fact breached that agreement, he will not have the

4 ability to get the benefit of his contractual tolling. But

5 that issue is not before Your Honor. That issue, as Mr. Anker

6 has indicated, will have to be litigated in the Delaware

7 Chancery Court. But the short answer is we’re not seeking an

8 evidentiary hearing. We’re happy to rest on the papers and the

9 presentation today.

10 THE COURT: All right. And that’s true for this

11 hearing in general. Because I really asked you a double

12 question.

13 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Right. But, Your Honor, I want

14 to make clear that if all the other parties who are here today,

15 who are the interested parties in the mediation, would consent,

16 I’d be delighted to tell Your Honor what I know from firsthand

17 knowledge as to the mediation, which I -- Mr. Aharoni was not

18 present at the mediation. I as his counsel was present and the

19 events leading up to it, the negotiation of that settlement,

20 and I would be able to -- I would proffer to Your Honor that if

21 permitted to disclose what happened, there was a substantial

22 economic benefit to the estate that Mr. Aharoni through my

23 representation conferred at the mediation so that the

24 settlement that they’ve agreed to in the class settlement is

25 much less than perhaps they would have actually entered into.
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1 So that, number one, that when -- the statement was made that

2 there isn’t one penny of benefit. I happen to know personally

3 -- I was there, Mr. Anker was not there, this was before his

4 retention -- that there was substantial benefit to the estate

5 conferred through Mr. Aharoni’s efforts.

6 THE COURT: But the more direct question to the

7 proceedings today is whether he has cooperated, and I think the

8 trustee points to the $31 million. Did you receive any of the

9 $31 million, sir?

10 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: No. No, Your Honor. And I don’t

11 --

12 THE COURT: Did any of the $31 million pass through

13 your hands?

14 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: No. No, Your Honor. And I’m not

15 -- I’m --

16 THE COURT: So you can’t testify --

17 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: I’m not testifying to that. I’m

18 not --

19 THE COURT: -- as to the $31 million --

20 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: No. All --

21 THE COURT: -- and his --

22 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: All I can say are two things,

23 Your Honor. One is that Mr. -- I have been present at meetings

24 before -- you know, this issue was addressed before, two years

25 before Mr. Anker was involved. I was personally at a meeting


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1 in London that -- it’s discussed in my papers. And, by the

2 way, Your Honor, Mr. Bronstein [Ph.], who is the former

3 trustee, submitted a new affidavit. I noted, which I saw it

4 last night, that he doesn’t dispute in any regard anything

5 that’s in my affidavit as to my discussions with him. And I

6 did attend a meeting in London in which the representative --

7 the former trustee, his representative, his counsel was --

8 actually his counsel Mr. Vann [Ph.] was present as well as the

9 then chairman of the equity committee, at which Mr. Aharoni

10 gave an explanation as to what had happened with respect to the

11 funds. It wasn’t my explanation, but there was a very detailed

12 explanation. And as I indicated in my papers, Mr. Vann didn’t

13 believe or buy into the explanation. I had extensive

14 communications with Mr. Bronstein. He may -- he didn’t seem to

15 buy into the explanation either before we signed the March 2004

16 settlement.

17 And as I indicate in my papers, there were business

18 reasons that was very clear that the trust had decided at the

19 time that we had the May 2004 mediation, the class settlement,

20 that from a macro picture it was far better for the estate to

21 reach a settlement of the class claims, to get a final closure

22 on the class claims and be able to have a distribution to

23 ultimately -- primarily equity holders, post-class action

24 equity holders in May of 2004 with full understanding of what

25 the facts were. And, Your Honor, while I didn’t like the
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1 ruling by the Chancery Court, because I lost on a motion to

2 dismiss, I do think it’s instructive that -- it’s attached as

3 Exhibit C to my affidavit -- that on page 2 of Vice Chancellor

4 Lamb’s [Ph.] ruling he specifically notes exactly, as a

5 contention of Actrade, what Mr. Anker is saying today.

6 Supposedly his new development is that, well, we have these

7 records from BCP Bank that demonstrate that Mr. Aharoni was in

8 control of the accounts.

9 Well, that was the position that Paul Weiss, a

10 reputable law firm, had advanced when I was litigating against

11 them in the Chancery Court, and the Vice Chancellor noted on

12 page 2, in language I didn’t like but it’s language that was

13 known to the trustee at the time, “Actrade further alleges that

14 Aharoni controls ICC [indiscernible] and that he fabricated the

15 loan agreements after the disputed transfers to conceal his

16 theft of $31.6 million from Actrade Commerce.” Their complaint

17 --

18 THE COURT: So what you’re telling me then is that

19 the issue was known.

20 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Correct.

21 THE COURT: And the prior trustee in the settlement

22 agreements in Delaware got Aharoni’s commitment to cooperate in

23 terms of tracing those funds and attempting to recover them for

24 the benefit of the estate. And I assume that Aharoni at the

25 time did not take the position that he had misappropriated the
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1 funds.

2 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: He didn’t. He vigorously

3 disputed that, he disputed that at the meeting in London that I

4 recite in my papers, and he today disputes that. And as I

5 understand it, there is litigation going on by the trustee, Mr.

6 Meer in Israel, I guess against these third parties. I’m not

7 involved with that but I understand he’s pursuing claims with

8 respect to trying to recover those loans, and parties that are

9 counter parties to those loan agreements have taken, you know,

10 I gather, the position that they didn’t get the benefit of that

11 money.

12 But the point, Your Honor, I’m trying to make is that

13 this is a case where I think the evidence -- frankly it’s

14 undisputed that all of the facts that were known then before

15 the trustee for a host of reasons, the smallest portion of

16 which, I would submit, was that he hoped that as a result of

17 Mr. Aharoni’s cooperation that he would be able to recover the

18 $31 million. But the trustee at the time made an informed

19 business judgment that in a very complex, multi-factor, multi-

20 party litigation situation the best interest of the estate was

21 to reach a settlement that he knew, and I say this in my papers

22 and there’s no dispute, the trustee at the time knew that there

23 would be no class action settlement signed unless Aharoni got a

24 general release. I submitted to Your Honor emails that I

25 received from the then trustee in which he had recognized that


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1 that was the price that they had to get, give Aharoni a

2 release.

3 And if you look -- I tried to reconstruct the

4 timeline for Your Honor. The first stipulation of settlement

5 was entered into in March 2004. The Delaware Chancery case was

6 dismissed without prejudice in April, April 5th, 2004. The

7 mediation took place a month later. And over the course of the

8 next few months, after reaching an agreement in principal, as

9 the documents in connection with the class action settlement

10 were negotiated, even though Judge Berman had been told by Mr.

11 Shapiro that he hoped to have all the documents before the

12 judge in June of 2004, it took well into October to have those

13 documents finalized. And all the other parties who were

14 parties to those settlement agreements are here. But it was

15 just before when we had reached a finalized settlement

16 agreement, before they were to be executed, Mr. Bronstein came

17 back to me and said, well, I recognize that I need to give

18 Aharoni a release but I’d like at least to amend the class

19 action settlement agreement to provide -- excuse me, amend the

20 Delaware side agreement to provide that if it’s not approved --

21 and at the time the papers as drafted imposed a burden on Mr.

22 Bronstein to affirmatively seek the approval of this Court and

23 for this Court’s portion of the settlement. It was the last

24 thing in the world that Mr. Aharoni or, for that matter, Mr.

25 Bronstein thought was that the trustee in fact would be able to


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1 benefit by an additional tolling provision in the October 2004

2 amended stipulation of settlement by seeking to undermine the

3 settlement. I recognize that Mr. Anker -- and I don’t dispute

4 that he has a duty as a fiduciary to bring information to the

5 attention of the Court. That’s a duty that’s independent of

6 what the trustee’s contractual obligations are under a

7 settlement where the trustee represented to Mr. Aharoni that he

8 had all requisite authority to enter into the Delaware

9 stipulation, that it was not conditioned on seeking the

10 approval of this Court.

11 So, Your Honor, I think contextually my point is that

12 the circumstances haven’t changed. The information that it

13 appears that Mr. Anker has obtained in the last year, I would

14 characterize it more as probably further confirmatory of the

15 view that was strongly held by the trustee and by Paul Weiss

16 and Mr. Vann long before we entered into the settlement

17 agreement, either the Delaware settlement agreement or the

18 class action settlement agreement. And in addition, as I

19 noted, because this I can say with firsthand experience, there

20 was a tangible concrete benefit that was conferred on the

21 estate -- I go further -- with respect to the mediation. I go

22 further to say that if I was not instructing Mr. Aharoni to co-

23 actively try to help get the mediation going, proact -- I

24 played a very proactive role in that mediation in entirety as

25 well as, I believe, saving the estate money. If Mr. Aharoni


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1 had not wanted to participate in that process, there would not

2 have been a class action settlement, and Mr. Anker would not be

3 in a position today to say, although I appreciate Your Honor

4 doesn’t want to hear where this is going with respect to any

5 reconstructed class action settlement, he wouldn’t have the

6 benefit of the deal that he’s trying to now redo just simply to

7 cut Mr. Aharoni out of the picture.

8 So that’s one large piece of it, Your Honor. I think

9 the other points can be addressed briefly. The Martin case

10 from the Third Circuit, the interesting thing about that case

11 is that the changed circumstances were that the trustee was not

12 aware that there had been a settlement of or a resolution

13 underlying state court action that conferred another $100,000

14 of benefit to the estate. The trustee came back to the court,

15 and the Third Circuit ultimately recognized the trustee

16 certainly had a duty to report to the court recent

17 developments. But those were recent positive developments.

18 There was more money coming into the estate, making the prior

19 deal, which was not as good for the estate, less preferable

20 than the current deal.

21 Here we actually have, I think, the opposite

22 paradigm. There was a very complicated settlement that was

23 reached that I again would submit resulted in a deal for the

24 estate, that saved the estate money in May of 2004. It was

25 finally executed in December 2004. That was when these class


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1 action settlement documents were executed, dated as of October.

2 Which Mr. Anker I think is putting the estate at risk of

3 blowing that whole settlement. I can’t speak to what anybody

4 else here in the room or parties to the settlement will or will

5 not do. They’ll have to -- they can speak to that themselves.

6 But I will say that if this class action settlement that was --

7 has been waiting for approval for four years -- although the

8 application was made in March of 2003 so call it three and a

9 half years since Mr. Bronstein has made application -- is not

10 approved by the Court, I do think that, number one, Mr.

11 Aharoni, who has rights under a National policies agreement,

12 particularly, as I view it, that if an action is brought by the

13 trustee, that it would be a covered claim, Mr. Aharoni will

14 seek indemnification and coverage from National Union. Mr.

15 Aharoni’s position will be, as I’ve advised all counsel, is

16 that there can’t be a new class action settlement agreement

17 with National Union signing off unless he is included within

18 that.

19 The trust exposes, in my view, the risk that National

20 Union may well say that, you know what, we wanted to arbitrate

21 the issue of whether an additional $9 million of coverage

22 properly came within the policy, and we settled by paying a

23 portion of that. I’m not allowed to say what amount, but a

24 portion of that. National Union may say we don’t want to pay

25 anything. And Mr. Anker then is left with blowing an estate --


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1 blowing a settlement that confers a significant benefit to the

2 estate by liquidating or resolving a claim that is hundreds of

3 millions of dollars for an amount that allows still for a

4 significant distribution to creditors and others of the estate.

5 And then what he has in exchange is claims against my client,

6 which I’ve been doing this for a while and I appreciate Mr.

7 Anker has been doing this for a while and I’ve had a lot of

8 experience before the Delaware Chancery Courts including before

9 Vice Chancellor Lamb yesterday in a complete unrelated hearing.

10 As I see it, the claims that were asserted against Mr. Aharoni

11 were asserted based on conduct that occurred at the latest in

12 August of 2002, maybe July or August 2002. The statute of

13 limitations in Delaware for a breach of fiduciary duty claim

14 and the other claims is three years. The original dismissal

15 without prejudice was filed on April 5, 2004. Those claims are

16 all clearly time barred.

17 Mr. Anker, his argument would be, well, I have

18 contractual tolling. I would submit, Your Honor -- and this is

19 not an issue for you to decide, it will be for the Delaware

20 Chancery Court to decide, but I do think it’s important to put

21 this before Your Honor so you at least appreciate the context.

22 I think in a case where it will be solely Mr. Anker’s conduct,

23 whether he’s an officer of the court or otherwise, that results

24 in the possible disapproval of the settlement, that he will

25 under no circumstances be able now to come back to Delaware and


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1 say Mr. Aharoni agreed to toll the statute of limitations.

2 And as to equitable tolling, which is his only other

3 identified basis to get around the clear statute of limitations

4 problem, we’ve cited cases to Your Honor in Delaware. There

5 are no cases cited by Mr. Anker. But I think this couldn’t be

6 a more clear case that he knew everything that he seeks to

7 assert now he asserted -- not only did he know previously, he

8 alleged previously. So he will pursue claims against Mr.

9 Aharoni if allowed to. I think those will be time barred. And

10 when I say that the problem and lack of benefit to the estate

11 to going his way on this is that a very good fair settlement

12 that was negotiated and resolved in May of 2004 and executed at

13 the end of 2004 will be blown up and claims will be pursued

14 against Mr. Aharoni that, if I’m successful in defending them,

15 will all be dismissed as time barred. And I guess what the

16 estate will have is we’ll be back having to now spend the next

17 several years litigating the issue of the proof of claim filed

18 by the class action attorneys before this Court for hundreds of

19 millions of dollars. Because it’s clear that with the other

20 parties in the case that they’re not going to -- if the class

21 action plaintiffs are successful there, they’re not going to

22 stop with the individual defendants as well as the Deloitte,

23 and they’ll have no choice but to prosecute aggressively, I

24 assume, the proof of claim before this Court.

25 Your Honor, finally, I don’t think it really matters


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1 whether the standard is the lowest range of reasonableness or

2 whether it’s a fair and reasonable outcome. I think that Mr.

3 Anker’s views are a piece of what Your Honor should consider

4 but they aren’t controlling, they aren’t dispositive. I think

5 that whether it’s a lowest range of reasonableness or fair and

6 reasonable, that if Your Honor applies the seven factors under

7 9019, that this is a compelling case. While we understand Mr.

8 Anker’s concerns of what he thinks he would like to do, that at

9 bottom, Your Honor, this really amounts to nothing more than,

10 armed with all the same information as Mr. Bronstein, he has a

11 different business judgment of what he would have liked to have

12 done. And that stripped of his identification of new

13 developments, there are no new developments. This case has

14 been going on far too long. Judge Berman repeatedly in the

15 last year has been pressing the lawyers in the case when is

16 this thing going to come before me for final resolution. I

17 would submit to Your Honor that if Your Honor is to approve the

18 motion made by Mr. Bronstein, which Mr. Bronstein hasn’t backed

19 off any with respect as to why he’s still -- you know, his

20 original application, that no one would be more delighted than

21 Judge Berman at the Southern District, who we would then

22 promptly go before to get final approval of the class action.

23 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

24 MR. WISSNER-GROSS: Thank you, Your Honor.

25 THE COURT: Anyone else?


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1 MR. BOYAR: Your Honor, David Boyar, D’Amato Lynch

2 for National Union. Just very briefly, the alleged fraud at

3 Actrade through Mr. Aharoni has been the subject of litigation

4 for over ten years. The allegations of a massive fraud and the

5 numbers in excess of $31 million has been bandied about for ten

6 years. The sort of alleged involvement of Mr. Aharoni with

7 respect to his manipulation of bank accounts and transfer

8 directions has been public knowledge for in excess of ten

9 years. These are precisely the allegations that were made in

10 the class complaint. This is old news at this point. National

11 Union --

12 THE COURT: I gather he denies having misappropriated

13 the $31 million?

14 MR. BOYAR: Absolutely, Your Honor. I guess --

15 THE COURT: And I gather your client didn’t receive

16 any of that?

17 MR. BOYAR: That’s correct, Your Honor.

18 THE COURT: Did any of it pass through your client’s

19 hands?

20 MR. BOYAR: Certainly not, Your Honor.

21 THE COURT: All right.

22 MR. BOYAR: All right. The point is that this, in

23 effect, is old news. These were the original allegations made

24 in excess of ten years ago. These were the allegations that

25 were the subject matter of the class litigation. This was the
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1 subject matter of the mediation that transpired in 2004. This

2 was the subject matter of the agreements that constitute the

3 global settlement arrangements as the subject matter of the

4 motion for approval.

5 National Union would sustain massive prejudice if the

6 trustee, the successor trustee is permitted in effect to walk

7 away from the agreements his predecessor agreed to in 2004. In

8 the policy release agreement the predecessor trustee

9 represented and warranted they performed a necessary and

10 prudent investigation of the subject matter of this agreement.

11 That subject matter included, obviously, the subject matter of

12 the class litigation, which again, Your Honor, made reference

13 to this alleged massive fraud by Mr. Aharoni.

14 THE COURT: All right. Now, what’s the prejudice to

15 your client?

16 MR. BOYAR: The prejudice to National Union is that

17 we filed an application with this Court in 2003 to lift the

18 automatic stay, to the extent the stay was applicable, so

19 National Union could arbitrate pursuant to the alternative

20 dispute provision in the National Union policy whether or not

21 there in fact is or is not coverage under the National Union

22 policy for the claims that had been made in the class

23 litigation against the National Union insureds, including Mr.

24 Aharoni. After that application was made National Union agreed

25 to withdraw that application in the context of an agreement by


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1 all the participants to engage in a global mediation. It took

2 approximately a year to schedule that mediation. The mediation

3 lasted for two days of significant negotiations and thereafter

4 three or four months time was spent by all the parties,

5 including National Union, to finalize the tentative agreements

6 that were reached at that mediation. The coverage issues would

7 have been resolved at this point but for the fact that

8 agreements were entered into, signed off on a global basis by

9 all the participants in that mediation. The approval

10 application was filed in March of 2005. The best that the

11 present trustee can assert is that his predecessor had not seen

12 and did not have available to him the new bank records. Once

13 again, in the policy release agreement that the predecessor

14 trustee signed he represented and warranted that he had

15 performed a necessary and prudent investigation of the subject

16 matter of the agreement. Your Honor, I respectfully assert if

17 there’s been any failures here, it was the failure of the

18 predecessor trustee to conduct an investigation, and now, in

19 effect, the other participants in the global mediation which

20 resulted in a global settlement are left, in effect, holding

21 the bag. That’s all I have, Your Honor.

22 THE COURT: Thank you. Anyone else?

23 MR. FLINT: Yes, Your Honor. Your Honor, Edward

24 Flint for Kenneth Silverman, the Allou trustee. We’ve stated

25 our position concerning the trustee’s exercise of his business


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1 judgment in our papers, and I won’t address that. I’ll simply

2 point out, Your Honor, that if the Court is inclined to approve

3 the original settlement, that any new order should not provide

4 for the payment of funds by the estate. The confirmed plan

5 provided for a certain priority of payments, and until the new

6 trustee’s claim has been resolved we believe that no payment is

7 appropriate from the estate funds. Thank you.

8 MR. GOTKO: Good morning, Your Honor. Lance Gotko of

9 Friedman Kaplan. We represent Alexander Stonkus, the former

10 president and COO of Actrade in the securities litigation.

11 Just very briefly, Your Honor, we support the trustee’s

12 original motion to approve the global settlement. We think it

13 should be approved as submitted. Mr. Stonkus entered into a

14 global settlement for the same reason that everyone, including

15 Actrade, entered into a global settlement, so that everybody

16 can know and be assured that you’re not going to settle today

17 and then the next day someone’s going to pop out of the

18 woodwork and sue you. It’s very unlikely that if a global

19 settlement is not able to be reached in this matter that

20 there’s going to be any settlement. And let me just give you a

21 hypothetical situation, which I’m afraid is not altogether

22 hypothetical.

23 First of all, the insurance company wants to know

24 that there aren’t going to be any further claims against its

25 policy if it enters into a partial settlement in this case, and


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1 I don’t think it’s going to be able to have that assurance. If

2 Mr. Aharoni is not included in the settlement, one can easily

3 envision a situation where the trustee, as it has said, sues

4 Mr. Aharoni, Mr. Aharoni in turn sues Deloitte, Deloitte in

5 turn sues the former officers and directors, and then the

6 officers and directors have to turn to the insurance company

7 again for coverage. So we’re right back in the soup in a

8 situation we were trying to provide against by entering into

9 the global settlement. And as Mr. Wissner-Gross pointed out,

10 Actrade also is going to be back in the soup. Because without

11 a global settlement the plaintiffs are going to be duty bound

12 to pursue their proof of claim in this court, so there’s going

13 to be a full-fledged massive securities fraud that has to be

14 litigated and tried in this court.

15 For a number of years now every party to the global

16 settlement, including Judge Berman who’s been waiting to

17 approve the global settlement, has been assured by the trustee

18 that the only thing left before approval by the Court is the

19 resolution of the Allou claim. So we have all been waiting,

20 doing nothing, obviously, in connection with the litigation,

21 with the probability that, with the trustee’s support, the

22 Court would review the settlement agreement and approve it.

23 Now we’re stuck with the spectra that the litigation could come

24 roaring back to life some ten years after some of the

25 underlying events of these highly complicated financial frauds.


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1 Memories have faded, witnesses have dispersed, documents of

2 third parties have gone away. It’s going to visit real

3 prejudice against the parties that were a party to the

4 settlement agreement if the settlement falls apart and we’re

5 forced to litigate this case again due to the dilatoriness of

6 the trustee.

7 It seems to me that if the trustee felt at any point

8 that Mr. Aharoni was not fulfilling his obligations under the

9 cooperation agreement, it should have acted upon that promptly

10 instead of just maybe three, four months ago starting to alert

11 the other parties to the settlement agreement that they

12 intended to try to pull Mr. Aharoni out of the settlement

13 agreement’s terms. In fact, the cooperation that Mr. Aharoni

14 was supposed to offer under that agreement was so special and

15 unique I suppose that they could even have tried to seek

16 specific performance of that cooperation. They didn’t do that.

17 They didn’t bring the lack of Mr. Aharoni’s cooperation to this

18 Court’s attention or Judge Berman’s attention or the Chancery

19 Court’s attention, and I think the trustee should have to live

20 with the consequences of that. There would be massive

21 prejudice to the parties here if the litigation comes back to

22 life. There will be massive prejudice to the judicial system

23 if this settlement falls apart and the litigation has to come

24 back to life. Because courts, obviously, traditionally favor

25 resolution and settlements of matters, we respectfully submit


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1 that the Court should approve the global settlement as

2 originally motioned by the original trustee in this matter.

3 Thank you.

4 THE COURT: All right. Anything further?

5 MR. RUBIN: Good morning, Your Honor. Paul Rubin

6 from Herrick, Feinstein for Kellogg Capital. Your Honor was

7 presented yesterday with a declaration from one Samir Salin

8 [Ph.] which surprised us. I represent that he is someone whose

9 firm represents the Committee. My client, we are the largest

10 shareholder, and we’ve been trying for several months to find

11 out information with regard to the status of the trust and

12 what’s been going on. Because if you look at the docket, for

13 example, Your Honor, in all of ‘07 there was hardly a filing in

14 the case, and from March until November again there was hardly

15 a filing in the case. And my client actually negotiated a

16 confidentiality agreement so that he could be in contact with

17 different parties to get information with regard to the trust.

18 There were two letters, Your Honor, that were sent

19 out by the liquidating, the new liquidating trustee to

20 shareholders, one in ‘06 and on in ‘07, that talked about the

21 status of where things stood, saying there are two major issues

22 that need to be resolved, the Allou litigation and the

23 potential SEC claim, and in addition it was mentioned that the

24 trust is interested in pursuing litigation in a foreign

25 jurisdiction against a foreign party. So this motion really


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1 took us by surprise. We did not realize that there was a

2 motion pending since 2005 with regard to approval of a proposed

3 settlement and that the letters that were sent out to

4 shareholders in ‘06 and ‘07 did not disclose, oh, by the way,

5 we may need to blow up an existing settlement and get court

6 approval in order to proceed with those claims. And without

7 getting into confidential information, we understand a lot of

8 money has been spent in pursuing these claims in foreign

9 jurisdictions. We don’t even know who serves on this trust

10 committee. We are very, very troubled --

11 THE COURT: I think you’re raising a different issue

12 but a timely one.

13 MR. RUBIN: If I may --

14 THE COURT: And -- but it’s not for today.

15 MR. RUBIN: Well --

16 THE COURT: However, I’m going to direct the trustee,

17 in any event, by within 30 days to file a report as to who the

18 committee is, who’s on the committee, when and under what

19 circumstances the committee meets, what the committee has done

20 over the last many years, and what it believes still needs to

21 be done in these cases. Obviously I’m not asking them to

22 breach any confidences or provide any confidential information,

23 but I think you’re right, we should have a report on where

24 things stand. But that’s not an issue for today.

25 MR. RUBIN: Understood. If I may speak to that point


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1 you just addressed?

2 THE COURT: No. I think if you don’t like the

3 report, then you certainly may speak to it but I’m not sure

4 that this is an issue for today.

5 MR. RUBIN: Okay. With regard to today, we would

6 like to know -- and we do want to see the trust recover as much

7 as possible. And if pursuing Mr. Aharoni is beneficial -- I’m

8 torn, quite honestly, Your Honor, as to what’s in the best

9 interest of the estate here. But we would like to know, since

10 the motion says that there’s new evidence and Mr. Bronstein

11 points out in his affirmation of yesterday it was discovered

12 this year, we’d like to understand why this evidence was not

13 pursued previously in ‘06 and ‘07 while apparently millions of

14 dollars of this estate have been spent. We were told there’s

15 $21 million that [indiscernible] claims in a letter in ‘06.

16 And, again, we signed the confidentiality agreement so I can’t

17 go into numbers, but we understand an awful lot has been spent

18 and we --

19 THE COURT: Well, I think that the report should

20 disclose what’s been spent and on whom and who’s received any

21 funds, and where the funds are today and the protection of

22 those funds. Those who may have come to this hearing a few

23 minutes early may have listened to a tragic motion in another

24 case where the escrow funds in excess of I believe $30 million

25 were put in an escrow at the account of Dreier LLP. Some of


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1 you may have read in the newspaper of some issues relating to

2 funds on deposit with Dreier LLP. We don’t know what the

3 situation is. But, yes, I think that’s a very timely issue,

4 and we’ll need a full accounting of where the money is, how

5 much it is, and where it is and what protection it has.

6 MR. RUBIN: Thank you, Your Honor. With regard to

7 this motion that’s on before Your Honor today, we think it’s

8 important for the trustee to disclose why this motion wasn’t

9 brought sooner only because, as I said, it did take us by

10 surprise. We didn’t realize that there was a need to get court

11 approval in order to pursue these claims that they are. We

12 think it goes to the motion. I don’t want to say anything at

13 all that would hurt the interest of the estate, as I said

14 before. But because there is this lack of accountability, and

15 I won’t go into it further, but because there is this lack of

16 accountability we think it’s important to know what new

17 evidence -- Mr. Bronstein referenced bank records that he did

18 not have. But the question I think is when did the new trustee

19 obtain this information and what efforts were made to obtain it

20 before 2008. I think that goes to this motion that’s before

21 Your Honor.

22 THE COURT: All right.

23 MR. RUBIN: Thank you.

24 THE COURT: Thank you. Anyone else? On the --

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1 THE COURT: Yes?

2 MR. RESENBERG: I’m sorry.

3 THE COURT: Yes, go ahead. State your name and

4 affiliation again.

5 MR. RESENBERG: This is Eric Resenberg. I’m a

6 registered investment adviser with DMI Capital.

7 THE COURT: All right. You want to make a brief

8 statement?

9 MR. RESENBERG: Yes. I basically want to reiterate

10 what Mr. Rubin had said regarding the desire to maximize and

11 recover for the estate. We have obviously concerns about the

12 make-up of the committee and how the decision was reached to

13 attempt to reopen the claim after such a period of time, and

14 that was my, that’s my concern. I’d also like to address there

15 was an inference about the number of shares that I may or may

16 not control. I submitted, like every other shareholder, back

17 in ‘05 proof of ownership. In my case I have multiple

18 accounts. I think we submitted over a hundred pages of proof

19 of purchase and ownership of shares. And it is -- and as an

20 adviser I own or control in excess of 500,000 shares. I’ve had

21 no relationship with Mr. Aharoni, never met the person, never

22 spoke with him, no financial or contractual interaction between

23 us at all. I just want to make that clear.

24 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

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1 MR. ANKER: Yes, Your Honor. Philip Anker. Your

2 Honor, let me just say on the last point Your Honor raised we

3 will of course provide a full report, an accounting to the

4 Court on the issues you raised. I fully appreciate from the

5 last hearing the issues that are so much in today’s papers

6 about that matter and others, and we take those

7 responsibilities seriously. I also appreciate Mr. Resenberg’s

8 representation, and we take that seriously and, you know, at

9 face value. We will be happy to cooperate with the creditors

10 and interest holders of this estate.

11 Your Honor, contrary to Mister -- let me get back to

12 the motion at hand. Contrary to Mr. Wissner-Gross’s

13 assertions, there absolutely have been new developments here.

14 I won’t repeat all of them but let me start with the most

15 fundamental. We have bank records that show where the money

16 went, and it went to Mr. Aharoni. In answer to Mr. Rubin, they

17 were obtained earlier this year in early ‘08. We promptly

18 informed both this Court and we informed Judge Berman. We have

19 written to Judge Berman and provided him with a copy of the

20 memorandum that we filed a few months ago on this matter. He

21 is well-aware of what is going on. Your Honor, new facts

22 matter. If Your Honor has doubt about it, take a look at what

23 happened in Martin. In Martin the trustee entered into a

24 settlement on the understanding that the underlying litigation

25 would take a long time. It wasn’t trial ready. In fact, he


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1 was mistaken. I think it’s a she actually. There was a

2 pending trial --

3 THE COURT: I read the Martin case.

4 MR. ANKER: But here’s the most important part of

5 Martin, Your Honor. The Bankruptcy Court didn’t get around to

6 deciding the settlement motion until the trial had occurred,

7 had occurred, and the debtor had won. And in denying approval

8 of the settlement the Bankruptcy Court took account of that

9 fact, a fact that plainly was unknown to the trustee when the

10 trustee had originally entered in this settlement. What’s

11 different here is we have proof, proof positive of where the

12 money went.

13 THE COURT: Yes, but the answer of your opponents

14 would be you may or may not have proof but your ability to

15 recover on that proof under the circumstances of these

16 litigations is highly uncertain. There’s no judgment in favor

17 of your client. Aharoni’s lawyer says that they’ll raise

18 statute of limitations and other defenses. And I’m sure that

19 if you get a judgment in Delaware, you’ll have a question as to

20 whether or not you can collect it. Now, I’m not asking you to

21 try that case today, and I gather that the trustee has made

22 some very careful business judgments as to his course of action

23 and his ability to benefit the interested stakeholders in this

24 estate. However, the differences with the Martin case are not

25 all in your client’s favor.


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1 MR. ANKER: I grant you, Your Honor, that in Martin

2 that was a fait accompli, and I agree with that, and I was not

3 arguing to the contrary. I was arguing simply that Martin

4 establishes that you ask the question, Your Honor needs to ask

5 the question does the settlement make sense today in light of

6 today’s facts, not did it make sense when Mr. Bronstein

7 answered it. But Your Honor just, I think, put your thumb on

8 exactly the right issue, and that is how do you decide today

9 when you’re in Your Honor’s shoes whether to approve this

10 settlement or not. And I submit the right question to ask is

11 is the trustee’s, that is Mr. Meer’s judgment not to support

12 this settlement reasonable. Because what case after case after

13 case says is Your Honor can’t hold a trial today, you can’t

14 resolve the statute of limitations question. I think I’ve got

15 a slam dunk winner, but I appreciate that Mr. Wissner-Gross is

16 going to take a different view. I think I’ve got a clear

17 answer given the prior Delaware decisions on jurisdiction. But

18 the answer is at the end of the day my firm, Mr. Salisbury, Mr.

19 Meer and counsel in Israel have spent enormous time on this,

20 and what case after case says is you defer in the absence of

21 showings of extraordinary unreasonableness to the trustee’s

22 judgment.

23 One last point there, and this will be my last point.

24 It is also appropriate, Your Honor, to accept the trustee’s

25 judgment, and we’ve been very careful in how we’ve worded this,
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1 that we are confident that we will be able to do a modified

2 settlement. And the modified settlement will not leave the

3 securities litigation alive. Mr. Boyar pointed out how he

4 would be prejudiced because he would have denied coverage for

5 the securities claimants’ claims against Mr. Aharoni. The

6 modified settlement agreement we contemplate will provide for a

7 dismissal with prejudice of those claims. The claims that will

8 be left will be the estate’s, not the securities clients’

9 claims. And we can deal with issues like the ones that have

10 been raised through judgment reduction or other provisions, but

11 we would not have taken the action we did if we didn’t have

12 discussions, and no one has denied those discussions have

13 occurred. I said one last point but now I’m going to -- I told

14 a falsehood. Not because --

15 THE COURT: Well, I don’t think you have to elevate

16 it to that level.

17 MR. ANKER: I didn’t have mens rea because I didn’t

18 think of it before.

19 THE COURT: If everyone has told me this is the last

20 point and has gone on to two or three more has been telling me

21 a falsehood, then we have a real issue in court.

22 MR. ANKER: Your Honor, this will, unless something

23 else occurs to me, I’ll give myself an out, this will be my

24 last point. You asked, and I thought it was perhaps the most

25 telling part of this hearing, Mr. Wissner-Gross do you want an


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1 evidentiary hearing. It’s something I thought about going in,

2 would he answer that. And his answer was no, and you were left

3 --

4 THE COURT: Do you want an -- does your client want

5 an evidentiary hearing?

6 MR. ANKER: I’ve put in an affidavit. I don’t

7 believe we need one. We have put --

8 THE COURT: Right.

9 MR. ANKER: -- in an affidavit from Mr. Meer that

10 attests to the fact that there has been no cooperation.

11 Cooperation doesn’t mean, Your Honor, showing up at a meeting.

12 It means telling the truth. And when you’re asked the question

13 do you control ICC, did the money go into your pocket, and the

14 answer is no and that is -- and I’m going to use a direct word

15 -- a lie, that is not cooperation, and that’s what happened

16 here. And the answer to why this wasn’t pursued earlier is we

17 were misled. It’s not that it wasn’t pursued, it was pursued,

18 and people lied to us. That’s what happened here. And you

19 have unequivocal testimony on that and no contradictory

20 testimony. And that informs this trustee’s judgment that as a

21 fiduciary the proposed settlement is not in the best interest

22 of the estate. A modified settlement that preserves the

23 estate’s claims for more than $30 million will be in the best

24 interest of the estate, and we believe we can get there

25 rapidly.
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1 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

2 MR. ANKER: Unless Your Honor has questions, thank

3 you.

4 THE COURT: No, I’m going to take a brief recess and

5 then I’ll give you a decision. But I do think in the meantime

6 in fairness to my last case of the day, is Steve & Barry’s

7 going to be very brief, do you believe?

8 MS. VRON: Yes, Your Honor.

9 THE COURT: I think you’re just adjourning things and

10 --

11 MS. VRON: Yes, we have a lot of stipulations.

12 THE COURT: And have some stipulations.

13 Why don’t I take a break in this case of five or ten

14 minutes, and then I’ll give you a decision. But in the

15 meantime let’s go on to Steve & Barry’s.

16 [Pause in proceedings.]

17 THE COURT: Is DMI -- are you still on the phone?

18 Hello? No. All right.

19 [Recess from 11:51 a.m. to 12:34 p.m.]

20 THE COURT: I’m going to give you a decision. This

21 case has languished too long. It’s time that it proceeded to

22 completion. I gather we have a trial date in the Allou case,

23 and these matters before me today should not be delayed any

24 longer. So here is my decision.

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1 debtors has moved for approval of a securities class action

2 settlement. The trustee has also informed the Court that the

3 settlement has as an integral part a release of Amos Aharoni, a

4 former principal of the debtor. Prior to and as a closely

5 related matter, the estates entered into a settlement of

6 litigation brought against Aharoni in Delaware, which

7 litigation was suspended or dismissed on condition that Aharoni

8 cooperate with the estates in providing information in

9 connection with efforts to collect certain funds. The Delaware

10 stipulation was amended to take into account the class action

11 settlement and to continue and reiterate Aharoni’s obligations.

12 The trustee has informed the Court that Aharoni has not

13 cooperated with the estates as required but that evidence has

14 been uncovered in recent months that Aharoni lied to the

15 trustee or his predecessor, and that Aharoni misappropriated up

16 to $31 million of funds belonging to these estates.

17 Under these circumstances, the trustee has put before

18 the Court the question whether the settlement, including a

19 release of Aharoni, should be approved. Aharoni has asked the

20 Court to approve the settlement but has not submitted any

21 declaration or affidavit denying the allegations and has not

22 asked for an evidentiary hearing. No party has asked for an

23 opportunity to put further evidence before the Court. Under

24 these circumstances the record establishes, although for

25 purposes of this hearing only, that Aharoni breached the


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1 Delaware stipulations of settlement with the trustee that the

2 Court can find were directly related to the settlement before

3 the Court for approval. Aharoni’s counsel states that all the

4 facts as to Aharoni were known to the prior trustee, were on

5 the table, and were taken into account when the trustee made a

6 business judgment to go forward with the class action

7 settlement and give Aharoni his release. That is not the

8 record I have before me today. The trustee now says it is now

9 known that Aharoni lied, that the so-called recipients of the

10 various loan agreements that are referred to in the Delaware

11 settlements are either nonexistent or did not receive the

12 funds, and that the trustee did not receive cooperation but

13 indeed received a pack of lies.

14 We thus have a situation much like that in In Re

15 Martin, 91 F.3d 389 (3d Cir. 1996) in which there were

16 significant developments between a trustee’s entering into a

17 stipulation of settlement and the court’s hearing on approval

18 of the stipulation. After careful consideration, the court in

19 Martin stated as follows: “We object to the proposition that a

20 trustee is required to champion a motion to approve a

21 stipulation that is no longer in the best interests of the

22 estate. The trustee did not flout or breach any term of the

23 stipulation nor did she withdraw the motion to approve the

24 stipulation, rather at the hearing the trustee simply elected

25 not to argue in favor of her motion. Thus the very nice


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1 question before us is the proper conduct of the trustee in her

2 responsibility to all creditors, the debtor, and the court.

3 This appeal raises a very narrow issue, and we will not expand

4 the matter beyond its perimeters. Accordingly, we will not

5 constrain a bankruptcy trustee from fulfilling her statutory

6 duty to the estate and the creditor body as a whole by

7 preventing her from informing the court and the parties of

8 changed circumstances.”

9 The Court in the Martin case avoided the question

10 whether a trustee was bound by a signed stipulation pending

11 approval by the Bankruptcy Court, an issue that I also do not

12 have to decide today. As the Martin case also indicates, the

13 bankruptcy judge must assess and balance the value of the claim

14 that would be compromised in the settlement as against the

15 value of the compromise itself. As in the Martin case there

16 are four criteria that courts consider in a Rule 9019 motion,

17 striking a balance among them. Probability of success in the

18 litigation, likely difficulty in collection and complexity of

19 the litigation, and the paramount interests of the creditors.

20 Looking at these issues and particularly issue one,

21 it appears that the estate receives nothing from the class

22 action settlement except a form of peace from the class

23 plaintiffs. The trustee has concluded that peace was

24 worthwhile in terms of giving up his claims against Aharoni on

25 the assumption that Aharoni was telling the truth and would
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1 cooperate but not under present circumstances. This Court has

2 been given no cogent reason why that issue must be decided

3 differently by this Court. Similarly, there may be

4 complexities and uncertainties relating to the ongoing

5 litigation, but the Court cannot find that these are so clearly

6 adverse to the Actrade estates that the settlement must be

7 approved. As to the paramount interests of the creditors of

8 this estate or, more correctly, the stakeholders, that is the

9 principal issue. The trustee represents these stakeholders.

10 They are certainly not represented by Aharoni or the insurance

11 company or any of the co-defendants in the litigation.

12 This Court cannot find that the settlement reaches

13 the level of reasonableness required under Rule 9019,

14 considering the paramount interests of the stakeholders of this

15 estate and the reasons given by the trustee. The settlement,

16 accordingly, will not be approved today. The trustee should

17 settle an order on ten days notice, and the trustee should

18 also, I think, within 30 days make the further filing that was

19 discussed earlier on the record. And the Court can hold a

20 status conference thereafter at which all interested parties

21 can appear.

22 Do we have a further date in the Actrade litigation

23 for a pretrial? Because that’s the issue, that’s the matter

24 that’s been coming before the Court.

25 MR. FLINT: Your Honor, may I have just one moment,


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1 please?

2 THE COURT: Yes.

3 [Pause in proceedings.]

4 MR. FLINT: Your Honor, to make a long story short,

5 no, we --

6 THE COURT: You should state your name for the

7 record.

8 MR. FLINT: I’m sorry. Edward Flint of Silverman

9 Acampora, counsel for Kenneth Silverman, the Allou trustee. We

10 don’t have a date, Your Honor. We had been in discussions

11 pretty constantly for the last couple of weeks to try and reach

12 settlement of this, and we are very, very close. I’m happy to

13 report that before the Court goes away for the holidays. I

14 think there’s some confidence on both sides that we’ll reach

15 that settlement. Perhaps a date, a holding date sometime in

16 the second week or third week of January where we can report to

17 the Court one way or another.

18 THE COURT: All right. Well, you --

19 MR. FLINT: But we’re getting there, Judge.

20 THE COURT: You obviously don’t have to use that

21 date, but let’s pick a date so we don’t lose control of the

22 case and we can pick any date in that week.

23 MR. FLINT: If I --

24 THE COURT: If you want to move it on, you can. If

25 you want to use it as a status conference with regard to the


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1 other matters that I have alluded to today, that’s fine.

2 MR. FLINT: With Mr. Salisbury’s permission, I think

3 we’re back here on the 6th for the Wachovia motion?

4 MR. SALISBURY: That’s correct.

5 MR. FLINT: How about January 6th since we’re going

6 to be before the Court that day anyway.

7 THE COURT: That’s on the discovery issue?

8 MR. FLINT: Yes.

9 MR. SALISBURY: That’s correct.

10 THE COURT: Assuming that we need to hear it. Okay,

11 let’s leave it at January 6th. At what time?

12 MR. FLINT: Say 10 o’clock?

13 THE COURT: 10:00.

14 MR. FLINT: 10 o’clock.

15 THE COURT: All right. We’ll leave it at January 6th

16 at 10:00 for the time being, but obviously it can be put over

17 for a week or two if that makes sense. There’s certainly no

18 reason to go forward with discovery disputes if you really are

19 close. I think -- that’s one thing I think the parties will

20 agree on. All right. Very good. Thank you very much.

21 MR. FLINT: Thank you, Your Honor.

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2 electronic sound recording of the proceedings in the above-

3 entitled matter.

6 Sally Reidy

7 Dated: December 18, 2008

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