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Nathan Schwartz-Salant has a Ph.D. in Engineering Science from the University of California, Berkeley, and a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from the C.G. Jung Institute Zürich.He is a member of the International Association for Analytical Psychology {IAAP} and has been practicing as a Jungian analyst for almost fifty years. Dr. Schwartz-Salant is currently in private practice in Blue Hill, Maine.His first book, Narcissism and Character Transformation: The Psychology of Narcissistic Character Disorders, published by Inner City Books in 1982, is a classic in the Jungian field.He is the author of The Mystery of Human Relationship: Alchemy & the Transformation of the Self, The Borderline Personality: Vision & Healing, and The Black Nightgown: The Fusional Complex & the Unlived Life. He is also the editor of the book, Jung on Alchemy.Dr. Schwartz-Salant was a co-founder – along with fellow Jungian analyst Murray Stein – of Chiron Publications, and co-edited a number of volumes in the Chiron Clinical Series.Recently, he contributed the chapter "Healthy Presidential Narcissism: Is That Possible?" for the popular book, A Clear and Present Danger: Narcissism in the Era of Donald Trump, that came out during the 2016 presidential campaign.His latest book, published in April, is The Order-Disorder Paradox: Understanding the Hidden Side of Change in Self and Society, and is the subject of our talk.This interview was recorded on June 29, 2017. It's 55 minutes long and the MP3 file is 48.6 MB. You can listen to it right here in your browser or download it directly to your computer. This episode is also available on iTunes, Stitcher, and Google Play.



MENTIONED DURING THE INTERVIEWC.G. Jung Institute ZürichJames Hillman Amazon author pageMarie-Louise von Franz Her websiteAlchemical Studies by C.G. Jung {Collected Works, Vol. 13}New Computer Virus Spreads From Ukraine to Disrupt World Business New York Times, Jun. 28, 2017The Ever-Present Origin by Jean GebserSynchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle by C.G. JungWolfgang Pauli His work with C.G. JungEpisode 25: James Hollis, Ph.D.The Problem of the Puer Aeternus by Marie-Louise von FranzMemories, Dreams, Reflections by C.G. JungLINKSInner City Books Narcissism and Character TransformationNorth Atlantic Books The Order-Disorder ParadoxLiving Dangerously An interview by Harriet Rubin, Fast Company Magazine, Issue 39 Special thanks to Murray Stein, Daryl Sharp, Liz Jefferson, and Michael Decon.