The Flat Earth Koran

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An interpretation of the Cosmology of
the Koran & a critique of Islamic
Fundamentalism

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 The Flat Earth Koran

1. Overview

3. The Cosmos of the Koran

5. Mesopotamian origins – The Koran and the Bible

7. The fallacy of Koran Science

9. Conclusion

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 1) Overview

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 Overview
1. In the Introductory Presentation (01 in this series) the stated
objective of these presentations was to discredit the claims of
Scientific Miracles in the Koran and by doing so attempt to prove
that Islam was as false as other religions.
2. Presentations 02 to 09 examined the structure of the Universe and
Earth according to the Koran.
3. What was found was a Cosmology based on Ancient Mythology
ultimately derived from Ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt thousands
of years before.
4. Presentations 10 to 12 examined the various arguments put
forward by Islamic Fundamentalists in order to try and prove that
modern Science can be found in the Koran and these were shown
to be nonsense.
5. The following Slides elaborate on this.

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 2) The Cosmos of the Koran

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 The Cosmos
of the Koran

This is what the Universe looks like according to the Koran and
Hadith.The Evidence supporting this interpretation is set out in
Presentations 02 – 09 in this series.

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 Another view of the World of the
Koran

The World of the

Koran is Flat &
Canopy of the Sky
circular below
a solid Sky dome
or Firmament.

Mecca is
at the centre of
the World.

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Map of the World of the Koran
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
All the parts of
 
 
the World
  mentioned in the
 
 
Roman Koran fit into this
 
  Empire Persian map.
 
 
  Mecca Empire
 
  Arabia The Americas,East
  Ethiopia Asia,Sub-Saharan
 
 
 
Africa and Australia
 
 
are not mentioned in
the Koran.

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 3) Mesopotamian Origins – The
Koran and the Bible

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 Where the Cosmology of the Koran
originates

The Universe described in the Koran (and the Bible) has its origins at
least 5000 years ago, and possibly earlier in the Ancient Civilisations of
Mesopotamia and Egypt.
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Ancient Mesopotamian Cosmology in the
Koran

Much of what the Koran

says about Cosmology
originated in the Ancient
Middle East thousands
of years earlier in
Mesopotamia & Egypt.

The Koran is not only out of

step with modern science,
but it is also out of step with
the science of the C7th AD.

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 Mesopotamian
Cosmos
Thousands of years
before the Koran or the
Bible were written, the
ancient Mesopotamians
and many other ancient
peoples believed in a
Universe like this.

This view of the Universe

gradually declined in
popularity after 500BC
but it is is accepted in
both the Bible & Koran.

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 The Biblical
Cosmos

The Cosmology of the

Ancient Mesopotamians
also found its way into
the Bible, despite
claims By Christian
Fundamentalists to
the contrary.

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 Discovery of the Spherical Earth

The Ancient Greek

Philosopher, Pythagoras
(570BC - 490 BC) proposed
that the Earth was a sphere
2500 years ago

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 Aristotle and the Spherical Earth

The Ancient Greek

Philosopher, Aristotle
(384 BC – 322 BC)
popularised the idea that
that the Earth was a sphere

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 Ptolemy and the
Spherical Earth

Around AD150, the Greek Philosopher Ptolemy summarised the work of

many earlier Greek Scientists.Ptolemy imagined a spherical Earth fixed in
the centre of the Universe with the Sun and Planets moving around it.
This was how educated people envisaged the Universe, but the
Koran still thinks that the Earth is flat.
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 4) The fallacy of Koran Science

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 Koran Science

In reality, “Koran Science” is an oxymoron. The arguments used are

spurious and I do not stand up to serious scrutiny.

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Explanation of “Modern Science” in the
Koran.
1. Most verses used are very vague and open to a wide variety
interpretations.The most likely interpretation usually turns out to be quite
mundane.
2. Many Muslims read things into these vague verses that are not really in
them.Christian & Hindu Fundamentalists often do the same with their
Scriptures as well.
3. Verses of the Koran are frequently taken out of context, both textually
and historically.
4. Sometimes dubious translations are used either due to carelessness or
outright dishonesty.
5. Some examples of the alleged Scientific Miracles in the Koran are
referring to were already known in the time of Mohammed.
6. If there really were Scientific Miracles in the Koran, then Muslims would
have discovered them hundreds of years ago, unless all the Muslims that
ever lived have been misinterpreting the Koran for 1400 years.
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 Circular reasoning
Islamic Fundamentalists often use faulty logic and circular reasoning
to “prove” a point.
• They assume that the Koran is of Divine origin because it says
so and they accept this on faith.
• Based on this assumption, they further assume that there cannot
possibly be errors in the Koran under any circumstances.
• When they find an apparent error, they try to think up some
interpretation that still allows them to accept the Koran as
infallible.
• Often, their interpretation stretches and distorts the text to
vaguely allude to some modern Scientific phenomena.
• This “discovery” of modern Science in the Koran is then taken as
“proof” of its divine origin.

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Circular reasoning (From previous Slide)

1 This is the basis for

the claims about
modern Science
being found in
5 2 the Koran.

4 3

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 The Nostradamus Technique.

The claims of Scientific Miracles in

The Koran are like the claims that
Nostradamus prophesied modern
events.
Supporters of Nostradamus are
never able to identify an alleged
Prophecy before an event.
Likewise, Muslims cannot identify
any future Scientific discoveries.
They wait until after a discovery is
made before “finding” it in the
Koran.

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 5) Conclusion

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 Conclusion
1. In the Introductory Presentation (01 in this series) the stated
objective of these presentations was to discredit the claims of
Scientific Miracles in the Koran and by doing so attempt to prove
that Islam was as false as other religions.
2. Presentations 02 to 09 examined the structure of the Universe and
Earth according to the Koran.
3. What was found was a Cosmology based on Ancient Mythology
ultimately derived from Ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt thousands
of years before.
4. Presentations 10 to 12 examined the various arguments put
forward by Islamic Fundamentalists in order to try and prove that
modern Science can be found in the Koran and these were shown
to be nonsense.
5. The Conclusion of these Presentations is that the Koran has been
proven to be not literally true as most Muslims claim

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Mohammed meeting the Angel Gabriel

Left: In the year

AD 610
Mohammed is said
to have met the
Angel Gabriel who
revealed the
Koran.

However, the Koran

is full of scientific
errors and so this
cannot be true

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 The End (For now)

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Coming soon …

What the Koran really says about

Embryology
Ancient Greek Science in the Koran
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