Guiding Questions: Chapter

17for Sally Hayes, what

While Holden is waiting
is he doing?
Does Holden get upset at Sally for being late?
What crazy thought was Holden having
about sally the very moment he saw her?
What did Holden say to Sally on their way to
the movies?
Where does Sally ask Holden to go after the
play?
What crazy idea does Holden come up with?
What does he call Sally at the end of the
chapter? And how does she react?

Summary: Chapter 17
Holden is early for his date with Sally, so he waits for her and

looks at girls.
Sally arrives ten minutes late, but since she is looking
extremely pretty, Holden decides not to be upset with her.
They fool around on the way to the show, and tells her he
loves her, and she replies that she does too.
They watch the play and he admits the show is not bad.
Afterward, Sally suggests they go ice-skating at Radio City.
However, both Holden and she are miserable skaters, and they
finally retreat to the bar for cokes.
While having refreshments, Holden is suddenly gets the
thought of running away.
He asks Sally to go with him, but she refuses.
They fight and Holden calls her a real pain in the ass. Sally is
truly hurt by this and leaves.

Guiding Questions:
Chapter 18
What does Holden remember about Jane?
What are Holdens feelings towards girls?

What is an inferiority complex?

Who is Mr. Antolini?
Who is Carl Luce?
Why did Holden think the woman who cried
through the movie was a phony?
D.B used to be part of what?
Why did Holden think it was strange that his
brother told him to read A Farewell to Arms?
What is Holden thinking about at the end of
the chapter?

Summary: Chapter 18
After

Sally leaves, Holden realizes he is hungry and goes to buy a Swiss cheese
sandwich and a malted milk.
Holden thinks that girls divide guys into two types, no matter what their
personality is.
In other words, a girl will justify misbehaviour as part of an inferiority complex
for those she does like and for those that she doesn't like shell think they are
being conceited.
He decides to give Jane Gallagher another call but she didnt answer.
Holden then goes through his entire address book looking for someone to call.
Finally he decides to call Carl Luce, his academic advisor from the Whooton
School.
He arranges to meet Carl for a drink at ten oclock. Holden does not particularly
like Carl, but says he is in the mood for some intellectual conversation.
Holden then decides to see a movie at Radio City to pass the time.
A woman in the theatre cries throughout the movie and Holden notices her
ignoring her small child who want to go to the bathroom.
Holden sees her as another phony.
As Holden leaves the theatre, he thinks about war, since the film seems to deal
with the subject.
When he leaves the cinema, he is feeling even more depressed.

Quote
The trouble with girls is, if they

like a boy, no matter how big a

bastard he is, they'll say he has
an inferiority complex, and if they
don't like him, no matter how nice
a guy he is, or how big an
inferiority complex he has, they'll
say he's conceited."

Guiding Questions: Chapter

19
Where does Holden go meet Carl Luce?
What does Holden want to talk to Carl Luce

about?
What does Carl Luce tell Holden about his new
girlfriend?
What did Holden do when he was getting very
excited. How did Carl Luce react?
What does Carl Luce recommend to Holden?

Summary: Chapter 19
Holden goes to meet Carl Luce at the Wicker Bar, which is in a very nice

hotel.
The bar often features Tina and Janine, who sing silly songs in French and
English.
Holden recalls that they are not very talented, but that everyone in the
bar gets all excited about the duo. He also thinks they are phony.
Holden arrives at the Wicker Bar early and manages to find a seat even
though it is crowded. While he waits, Holden drinks scotch and sodas.
He begins to think about flits (1950s slang for homosexual) and sex, a
subject that he expects he will have lots to talk about with Carl Luce
Holden also start to believe that maybe Luce was flit
Carl arrives and begins to drink. He seems bored and anxious to leave.
At several points in the conversation, he tells Holden to grow up and quit
being so childish.
Holden persists in talking about sex even though Carl seems
uninterested.
When Carl is ready to leave, Holden pleads with him to stay a little
longer.
Carl, however, has had enough of Holden. As he departs he suggests
that Holden should be psychoanalyzed.

Guiding Questions:
Chapter 20

What does Holden ask the waiter to do for him?

What does Holden pretend to do when he is really
drunk?
Who does Holden call?
When Holden leaves the bar, where does he decide
to go?
What happens to Holden on his way there?
What is Holden imagining?
Where does Holden decide to go at the end of this
chapter?

Summary: Chapter 21

Holden arrives at his apartment building and is happy because the

elevator boy is someone that wont recognize him.

He also takes off his hunting hat and lies to the elevator boy that he is
visiting The Dicksteins and that he has a bad leg.
Luckily, Holden has the house key and tiptoes into his house and goes
straight to Phoebes room.
He notices that she is not in her room and remembers that she
sometimes sleeps in D.Bs room.
He finds Phoebe and watches her sleep for awhile. Before waking her up
he looks through her notebook.
When Phoebe wakes up she is really happy to see him and tells him
everything that is happening in her life.
Holdens parents are at a party and will only be back late at night.
Holden asks Phoebe if D.B will be home for Christmas and Phoebe says
that he has to write a movie about Annapolis.
She realizes that Holden is back early from Pencey and asks him if he
got kicked out of another school.
Holden tries to lie his way out of the situation and says he will just run
away to Colorado or something.
Phoebe is upset and said daddy is going to kill you and she put a pillow
over her head.

Summary: Chapter 22
Phoebe is upset that Holden got kicked out of school again.
Holden tries to explain why he left- worst school he has ever went

to, full of phonies, mean guys

Phoebe is listening to Holden, tells him to stop swearing
Holden explains one specific day-Veterans Day- one (veteran
wanted to find his initials in the bathroom stall, it annoyed him) he
cant explain it
Phoebe calls him on it, claims that he doesnt like anything, she
even asks him to tell her one thing that he does like.
Holden cant concentrate, too hot (BUT, REALLY WHY?), cant answer
the question
What he does think about is the 2 nuns he met at breakfast and
about a boy, James Castle who committed suicide (jumped out a
window to escape bullies) He was wearing one of Holdens
turtleneck sweater.
He finally tells Phoebe that he likes Allie and being with her, right
now.
Phoebe asks Holden what he would like to BE. Holden says he cant
be a scientist or a lawyer like their dad.
WHAT DOES HOLDEN REALLY WANT TO BE?? P.173 Class answer