{\rtf1 \pard\tx1500\tx3000\plain\fs20\b1 From: \b0\tab "Lana Hollady" <lhollady @charter.net>\par \pard\tx1500\tx3000\plain\fs20\b1 To:\b0\tab "Al Fricke" <alfricke@pacbell.

net>, "'Amy Phenix'" <amy@amyphenix.com>, ...\par \pard\tx1500\tx3000\plain\fs20\b1 Date: \b0\tab 04/29/2007 8:22 AM\par \pard\tx1500\tx3000\plain\fs20\b1 Subject: \b0\tab SORAG scoring\par \par \par \par \{Evaluator Question\}\par \par \par \par In the January 2005 Marnie Rice materials\_\_page 10 there is an explanation\par for "index offense" under the "VRAG item 7. Age at index offense" item\par heading\par \par \par \par the rein the printed material reports oddly about defining the index\par offense\_\_ specifically it says that after a long prison term \_\_parole and\par then a new offense\_\_that the older offense is the index\_\_\par \par \par \par This is confusing\_\_and true? This seems illogical \_\_\par \par \par \par \par \par _____ \par \par From: Rice, Marnie [mailto:mrice@mhcp.on.ca] \par Sent: Tues day, February 20, 2007 10:24 AM\par To: Amy Phenix\par Subject: RE: SORAG scorin g\par \par \par \par Amy\_ This was when the 2nd edition of the book was in dra ft form. The final\par version of the 2nd edition says the following:\par \par "The index offense is the offense that led to the current assessment or\par inst itutionalization, whether violent or not." (p. 301). \par \par In the case of s omeone who committed a technical violation while under\par conditional release, we recommend using the original index offense.\par However, if there is a subseq uent conviction, we recommend using it.\par \par In fact, there is l ittle empirical justification for using the\par new vs. the original offense as the "index" offense\_We have never evaluated\par whether the VRAG or SORAG score based on the original index offense is more\par accurate than the VRAG/SORAG sc ore based on a recidivism offense. In most\par cases, the 2 scores are going to be pretty close\_The offender is older, but\par has a more serious history. So metimes (for example, if he's being\par readmitted to our hospital following a n ew violent offense), we just use the\par original VRAG score and add the fact th at he has now already met the\par criteria for violent recidivism.\par \par Hope this is helpful.\par \par marnie\par \par \par \par \par \par Marnie E. Rice, Ph.D., C. Psych., FRSC\par \par Research De partment\par \par Mental Health Centre Penetanguishene\par \par 500 Church Stree t\par \par Penetanguishene, ON\par \par CANADA\par \par L9M 1G3\par \par 705\_54 9\_3181 Ext. 2614\par \par 705\_549\_3652 (fax)\par \par <mailto:riceme@mcmaste r.ca> riceme@mcmaster.ca\par \par <http://www.mhcp\_research.com/index.htm>\par http://www.mhcp\_research.com/index.htm\par \par Professor (Part\_time), Dept. of Psychiatry & Behavioural Neurosciences,\par McMaster University\par \par Hami lton, ON\par \par Professor (Adjunct), Dept. of Psychiatry, University of Toront o, Toronto, ON\par \par Associate Professor (Adjunct), Dept. of Psychology, Quee n's University,\par Kingston, ON \par \par "The ideals that have lighted my way and time after time have given me new\par courage to face life, have been Kindne ss, Beauty, and Truth" Albert Einstein\par (1930)\par \par \par \par \par \par }